mtDNA of ancient lllyrians and Thracians.

[Voskos]

JAZ1(Illyrian):H4a
p192-1(Thracian):U3b
T2G2(Thracian):H1c9a
K8(Thracian):R
V2(Thracian):U2e
RISE595(Illyrian):U5a2d
RISE596(Illyrian):X

[Kelmendasi]

JAZ1(Illyrian):H4a
p192-1(Thracian):U3b
T2G2(Thracian):H1c9a
K8(Thracian):R
V2(Thracian):U2e
RISE595(Illyrian):U5a2d
RISE596(Illyrian):X
Really cool. How do you know they were Illyrian or Thracian?. JAZ1 for example could of been a proto-Illyrian or something even older as it was from the Bronze age

[The Illyrian Warrior]

They should start to test either of them for y chromosome......forget not to put links next time.


Really cool. How do you know they were Illyrian or Thracian?. JAZ1 for example could of been a proto-Illyrian or something even older as it was from the Bronze age

JAZ1 is believed to be Illyrian female from Bronze age.

[Voskos]

Really cool. How do you know they were Illyrian or Thracian?. JAZ1 for example could of been a proto-Illyrian or something even older as it was from the Bronze age

ok , we'll go with pre-illyrian for JAZ1 then.

[Kelmendasi]

They should start to test either of them for y chromosome......forget not to put links next time.



JAZ1 is believed to be Illyrian female from Bronze age.
She is believed to be an Illyrian but that's unlikely due to the time period, I would say that she was a Proto-Illyrians or something like that

[Voskos]

neolithic guy from gomolava.

Y-DNA:CT-M5751
mtDNA:R0

[Kelmendasi]

neolithic guy from gomolava.

Y-DNA:CT-M5751
mtDNA:R0
CT!. Da fuck is that?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

She is believed to be an Illyrian but that's unlikely due to the time period, I would say that she was a Proto-Illyrians or something like that

Bronze age starts from 3000 BC and ends in 600 BC although not exactly which millennia but we can say that Illyrians have established themselves during this time period, her remains were found in Dalmatia and going by geographic distribution and settlements of this groups, scientifics believes she may be Illyrian although should leave space for discussion.

[Voskos]

CT!. Da fuck is that?

I think it's the ancestor of all Eurasian haplos

[The Illyrian Warrior]

CT!. Da fuck is that?

First basal outta of Africa hg, believed to be father of all Eurasian hg's.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/CT_%28DECF%29.png

Should be more specific not give us something which we would predict without testing.

[Kelmendasi]

First basal outta of Africa hg, believed to be father of all Eurasian hg's.
[IG]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/CT_%28DECF%29.png[/IMG]

Should be more specific not give us something which we would predict without testing.
Hmm so an ancestral clade. Perhaps Illyrians had this as well

[Kelmendasi]

Bronze age starts from 3000 BC and ends in 600 BC although not exactly which millennia but we can say that Illyrians have established themselves during this time period, her remains were found in Dalmatia and going by geographic distribution and settlements of this groups, scientifics believes she may be Illyrian although should leave space for discussion.
She probably was like a proto-Illyrian or a older version of illyrians I think. But she could still of been a proper Illyrian

[Lek]

my mtdna is probably h and something. i am very close to this jaz1 i believe. plot similar probably.

[Kelmendasi]

my mtdna is probably h and something. i am very close to this jaz1 i believe. plot similar probably.
You could be U5 as well as I have seen a good amount of Albos score it. Every Albo seems to be really close to JAZ1 so far

[Lek]

You could be U5 as well as I have seen a good amount of Albos score it. Every Albo seems to be really close to JAZ1 so far

Some Albanians seem closer to Thracian examples. A lot of my autosomal matches are MtDNA H etc.. It's made me believe I might be so.

As for Jaz1, from What I know, it's very northern plotting like me. Albanian examples used were much southern plotting.

[Kelmendasi]

Some Albanians seem closer to Thracian examples. A lot of my autosomal matches are MtDNA H etc.. It's made me believe I might be so.
Thracians were very similar to Illyrians. You probably are H since it's the most common Mtdna among Albos and other Europeans

[Kelmendasi]

As for Jaz1, from What I know, it's very northern plotting like me. Albanian examples used were much southern plotting.
Those Albanian samples don't seem right as some are more southern plotting than Greeks which is wrong. From the PCA map made up of the Albanians at foleja and here it seems like we are more northern plotting and very close to JAZ1 and Bulgarians

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Those Albanian samples don't seem right as some are more southern plotting than Greeks which is wrong. From the PCA map made up of the Albanians at foleja and here it seems like we are more northern plotting and very close to JAZ1 and Bulgarians

http://i67.tinypic.com/ohlta0.jpg
Albanian kosovar average seem to go well with JAZ1.

[Kelmendasi]

[IM]http://i67.tinypic.com/ohlta0.jpg[/IMG]
Albanian kosovar average seem to go well with JAZ1.
Yep

[DarknessWin]

JAZ1(Illyrian):H4a
p192-1(Thracian):U3b
T2G2(Thracian):H1c9a
K8(Thracian):R
V2(Thracian):U2e
RISE595(Illyrian):U5a2d
RISE596(Illyrian):X

Everyone have a different Haplo and then some people tryin to connect it with Phenotypes . LOL

[Lek]

Everyone have a different Haplo and then some people tryin to connect it with Phenotypes . LOL

its called joking

[Enflamme]

its called joking

We don't care, dude.

[Lek]

We don't care, dude.

Your mother cares, and that's all that matters to me. No hate in this world can tear us apart.

[Enflamme]

Your mother cares, and that's all that matters to me. No hate in this world can tear us apart.

My mother is a man.

You can marry him, if you want.