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ariel
04-10-2017, 09:18 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsqVB9nxFY

Fantomas
04-10-2017, 10:08 AM
Good video, but the most mysterious in this story how Arab population was growing there for the last decades from 1 million to 7 millions including 4 millions of the so called "palestinian refugees"

ariel
04-10-2017, 10:14 AM
Good video, but the most mysterious in this story how Arab population was growing there for the last decades from 1 million to 7 millions including 4 millions of the so called "palestinian refugees"

The palestinians are famous for being a liars they claim 2.8 milion people in the west bank but according to the israeli experts there living only 1.8 milions people .they considered dead people as living peolle....people who migrated to south america as palestinian citizens and published fake nubers of thier population

Fantomas
04-10-2017, 10:17 AM
The palestinians are famous for being a liars they claim 2.8 milion people in the west bank but according to the israeli experts there living only 1.8 milions people .they considered dead people as living peolle....
Anytime this number may increase, many arabs want to become "palestinian " as well... especially with Israel passport

RN97
04-10-2017, 01:05 PM
The arabs, or at least the ancestors of what is now Palestinian arabs have been there a long time. To say that they have no claims to the land due to the fact that they're just "arabs" or not direct descendants of the ancient Philistines is shady. The European jews are very dissimilar to their ancient counterpart first and foremost and the other argument can also be debunked. Would you say it's okay for Poles to have their land taken by jews because they're just a tiny tribe of jews in a sea of slavs. The Poles can always go to Russia or Slovakia, can't they? It doesn't work like that. I don't really care for a bunch of inbred Arabs or the Jews, but I think the west, especially the USA ought to stay more out of that conflict or remain unbiased. The US is only making enemies shilling for Israel.

ariel
04-10-2017, 01:20 PM
The arabs, or at least the ancestors of what is now Palestinian arabs have been there a long time. To say that they have no claims to the land due to the fact that they're just "arabs" or not direct descendants of the ancient Philistines is shady. The European jews are very dissimilar to their ancient counterpart first and foremost and the other argument can also be debunked. Would you say it's okay for Poles to have their land taken by jews because they're just a tiny tribe of jews in a sea of slavs. The Poles can always go to Russia or Slovakia, can't they? It doesn't work like that. I don't really care for a bunch of inbred Arabs or the Jews, but I think the west, especially the USA ought to stay more out of that conflict or remain unbiased. The US is only making enemies shilling for Israel.

majority of they living there less than 150 years
many of them are just egyptians and jordanians invanders the land was almost enpty during the ottoman period.
Mark Twain in the Holy Land
Mark Twain visited Israel in 1867, and published his impressions in Innocents Abroad. He described a desolate country – devoid of both vegetation and human population:

“….. A desolate country whose soil is rich enough, but is given over wholly to weeds… a silent mournful expanse…. a desolation…. we never saw a human being on the whole route…. hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country.”

He was amazed by the smallness of the city of Jerusalem:

“A fast walker could go outside the walls of Jerusalem and walk entirely around the city in an hour. I do not know how else to make one understand how small it is.”

And he described the Temple Mount thus:

“The mighty Mosque of Omar, and the paved court around it, occupy a fourth part of Jerusalem. They are upon Mount Moriah, where King Solomon’s Temple stood. This Mosque is the holiest place the Mohammedan knows, outside of Mecca. Up to within a year or two past, no christian could gain admission to it or its court for love or money. But the prohibition has been removed, and we entered freely for bucksheesh.”

Chapters 45-56 of Innocents Abroad can be read on Shechem.org.
More quotes from pilgrims to the Holy Land can be found on the COJS website.
https://zionismandisrael.wordpress.com/2008/08/28/mark-twain-in-the-holy-land/

ariel
04-10-2017, 01:22 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTmVp1M64Wc

Styrian Mujo
04-10-2017, 01:42 PM
Had a bit of a brainstorm now and I realised that German national socialists did or wanted to do a similar thing to the Slavs. They claimed that (or atleast Himmler and his compatriots) that Poland,Czechia,Slovakia and western Ukraine were ancient Germanic lands which have been overtaken by the Slavs (which is actually kind of true). What I'm trying to say is that you cannot make claims to land just because a your supposed ancestros lived there 2000 years ago and than left for whatever reason...but what is done is done.

Hamlet
12-07-2017, 08:55 AM
Well that video is mostly based on fact, but it distorts some things too. Could be worse though, this pro-Israel video literally made me anti-Semitic just by watching it:




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrBEImNCHFo

Bobby Martnen
02-22-2018, 06:05 AM
The European jews are very dissimilar to their ancient counterpart first and foremost and the other argument can also be debunked.

European Jews are 1/2 ancient Israelite, 1/2 North Italian, with minor Central and Eastern European in them as well.