B R1 A Z I L I A N dna results... finally.

[Rethel]

Whole: http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152573

The most important part of it:

R1 - 51.6%

I only don;t get, why R1a is not mentioned. In older
data it was 3.1%. Maybe they putted it under M207?

Brazilian population ~208 mln.
R1 = 51.6% = ~108,000,000.

The summary:

R1 - 51.6%
E1 - 18.7%
J - 10.1%
I - 8.9%
G - 5.1%
Q - 3.1%
LT - 2.2%

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/figure/image?size=large&id=10.1371/journal.pone.0152573.t001

[Annie999]

During colonization in Latin America many iberian invaders killed the native men and raped the women, so the YDA is mostly european.

[Kriptc06]

E-M35 africa


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFZ7bBaYpcw


this table has not refined sub-clades dude, and i have already seen it, 2 months ago.

[Rethel]

i have already seen it, 2 months ago.

So why did you not share it with us? :mad:

[Kriptc06]

So why did you not share it with us? :mad:

:hiding:
i dont know

[Sacrificed Ram]

Hmmm, R1b shall be greater than it, R1b is dominant even among brazilian blacks.

[Rethel]

Brazilian population ~208 mln.
R1 = 51.6% = ~108,000,000.

[Rethel]

R1b is dominant even among brazilian blacks.

How many?

[Sacrificed Ram]

We have more north african E1b1b than black west african E1b1a! This source is crazy!

[Grab the Gauge]

We have more north african E1b1b than black west african E1b1a! This source is crazy!

It's true in America as well. 80-90% of African Americans are R1b.

[Rethel]

It's true in America as well. 80-90% of African Americans are R1b.

:picard2:

[Grab the Gauge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJZa-ITUOe4

[Sacrificed Ram]

I remember old studies with A, B and C y-haplogroups here, but probable they are insignificant.

[Rethel]

I remember old studies with A, B and C y-haplogroups here, but probable they are insignificant.

There is only the lack of 0,03% :)

A and B could be significant, but probably only among Blacks.
But Blacks are only 3% of Brazilian population, so if they have
1-5% of it it would be very small number, but I think it should
be visible in that promileish study. There is also a lack of other
hgs as well, some asian ones, and ecpecially R1a, so I think it
can be not fully representative research, but quite close to the
reality, as some fractional old data was showing.

[Kriptc06]

blah blah blah.

reeethel! :swl

http://i.imgur.com/sIm0edO.jpg

and you trying to scare me telling me it was from east africa lol mozambique

[Dema]

The most important part of it:

R1 - 51.6%

You mean R1b not R1a :D

[Rethel]

and you trying to scare me telling me it was from east africa lol mozambique

Why Mozambik is scearing?


You mean R1b not R1a :D

No, buy glasses.
Of course huge majority is R1b, but you can also say, not
R1b but M269, L23, L51, L11 - but what's the point in this?

[Kriptc06]

Why Mozambik is scearing?
There was a chance my E-m35 could be anything, but i was sure my male line was from europe, there it is, but this v13 only gives me more doubts;

[Rethel]

There was a chance my E-m35 could be anything,

Could be, but why it would be scaring, even if it would be MosambiquE1?


but i was sure my male line was from europe,

Riiiight... :laugh:


there it is, but this v13 only gives me more doubts;

So now you are really scared? :scared:

[Dema]

No, buy glasses.
Of course huge majority is R1b, but you can also say, not
R1b but M269, L23, L51, L11 - but what's the point in this?

No R1a :D

[Kriptc06]

Could be, but why it would be scaring, even if it would be MosambiquE1?


there nothing wrong with MZ, like I said i knew what my male line was;


Riiiight... :laugh:

I know what youre thinking, dont get started lol



So now you are really scared? :scared:
Something weird, but I may be just me dreaming too much.
I'd need a deeper test to be sure.

[Ranger0075]

wtf is J, KLT, G and I?

Ive never heard about these haplogroups

[Kriptc06]

wtf is J, KLT, G and I?

Ive never heard about these haplogroups

idk about KLT.

but J is basically middle eastern/jew

G is caucasian

I is uber uropean.

[Ranger0075]

you joking?

J is common in the middle east.

K is rare, L is basically african

I is uber european.........

Now I see, basicaly J is from those new christians who helped to colonize Americas and I is probably from Germans who settled in Southern Brazil.

[Rethel]

No R1a :D

Read once again, what I wrote.

Btw it is logically impossible to be no R1a there, if there is:

3 mln Poles,
12 mln Germans
1,5 mln Russkies
plus unknown number of British and Scandinawians.

It should give statistically at least 5 mln R1a, i.e. 2.5%.

Older studies gave R1a 3%.

But I do not understand, what is your problem at all...
Are you jealous, that R1a did not pardoized themselves or what?

[Rethel]

wtf is J, KLT, G and I?

Ive never heard about these haplogroups

J = J1 and J2
KLT = K, L, T, (and probably M, S, N, O, P)
G = G1 and G2
I = I1 and I2.

[Sacrificed Ram]

Now I see, basicaly J is from those new christians who helped to colonize Americas and I is probably from Germans who settled in Southern Brazil.

No, J1,J2,G,E-M35,I2 are long time present in Iberia and until today.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0c/bc/22/0cbc22bb9752a3243bb876a444cbe1f6.gif

http://www.jowsey.com/genealogy/genetic/europe-haplogroups.png

[Kriptc06]

No, J1,J2,G,E-M35,I2 are long time present in Iberia and until today.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0c/bc/22/0cbc22bb9752a3243bb876a444cbe1f6.gif

[IM[/IMG]

There I am.

[Rethel]

There I am.

No. This is berberian E.
Your E was at that time in Greece.
It rather was not in Italy at the beginning.

And btw, those maps on Leftpedia
are hugly made basing on guessing.

[Rethel]

I dubbled my post, so insted of it, I paste such interesting graphic... :)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b0/Main_ethnic_groups_in_brazil.JPG/700px-Main_ethnic_groups_in_brazil.JPG

[Rethel]

Aha... yet one important thing from the data.

Oficially in Brasil is only 817,000 Indians,
but as we see in the data, real number
is eight times higher - they simply live
among normal Brasilians, not in resevations.

[Kriptc06]

No. This is berberian E.
Your E was at that time in Greece.
It rather was not in Italy at the beginning.

And btw, those maps on Leftpedia
are hugly made basing on guessing.

Just what youre doing now, guessing

[Dick]

I have one Brazilian ydna match from Rio grande do Sul. Surname altmeyer.

[Rethel]

Just what youre doing now, guessing

Nope.

[Rethel]

What is the au-composition of average pardo?

[Sacrificed Ram]

Depends if you visited some beach and had a tan. You become pardo.

[Carlito's Way]

The R1 anthem


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7raxxqP6DSU