Which Balkan ethnic group resemble the original Balkanoids the most?

[poiuytrewq0987]

Which ethnic group now indigenous to the Balkans do you think resemble the original Balkanoids the most in terms of looks? By original Balkanoids I speak of old peoples such as ancient Greeks, Thracians, Dacians, Illyrians, etc of that era.

[Guapo]

Ancient Greeks were the most numerous.

[Daos]

Ancient Greeks were the most numerous.

Actually, the Greeks said the Thracians were the most numerous people of the World after the Indians.

[Guapo]

Actually, the Greeks said the Thracians were the most numerous people of the World after the Indians.

Ok so then Indians resemble the original Balkanoids the most.

[Ianus]

More or lee all these people resemble their ancestors

[Trun]

Bulgarians, Romanians and Albanians the most. Greeks are too Meddish and SW Slavs (except Serbs) too northern influenced.

[HellLander87]

Ancient balkan population were very meditaranean so i think closest to them are Greeks and especially southern ones.Northern euro dna came with medieval barbarian invasions mostly.So the further south you go the least the populations were affected by migrations
Check this link
http://eurogenes.blogspot.gr/2012/09/the-genetic-history-of-balkans.html

[Trun]

Ancient balkan population were very meditaranean so i think closest to them are Greeks and especially southern ones.Northern euro dna came with medieval barbarian invasions mostly.So the further south you go the least the populations were affected by migrations

This is absolutely not true. Light pigmentation and features were common among Thracians and Illyrians.

[HellLander87]

This is absolutely not true. Light pigmentation and features were common among Thracians and Illyrians.
Nevertheless, academic studies have concluded that Thracians had physical characteristics typical of European Mediterraneans. According to Dr. Beth Cohen, Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks."[46] Recent genetic analysis comparing DNA samples of ancient Thracian fossil material from southeastern Romania with individuals from modern ethnicities place Italian, Albanian and Greek individuals in closer genetic kinship with the Thracians than Romanian and Bulgarian individuals.[47]

[Trun]

Nevertheless, academic studies have concluded that Thracians had physical characteristics typical of European Mediterraneans. According to Dr. Beth Cohen, Thracians had "the same dark hair and the same facial features as the Ancient Greeks."[46] Recent genetic analysis comparing DNA samples of ancient Thracian fossil material from southeastern Romania with individuals from modern ethnicities place Italian, Albanian and Greek individuals in closer genetic kinship with the Thracians than Romanian and Bulgarian individuals.[47]

Thracians were mostly Pontids, Dinarids and Alpinids, sometimes with more northern influence. Just like modern Romanians and Bulgarians. This is what reconstructions show. Greeks have more exotic influence than Romanians and Bulgarians northern.

Genetically maybe they were closer to Greeks though.

[Mortimer]

Twitchoids

[Swearengen]

western balkans (illyrians) - albania, montenegro
eastern balkans (daco-thracians) - romania, bulgaria

[HellLander87]

Thracians were mostly Pontids, Dinarids and Alpinids, sometimes with more northern influence. Just like modern Romanians and Bulgarians. This is what reconstructions show. Greeks have more exotic influence than Romanians and Bulgarians northern.

Genetically maybe they were closer to Greeks though.
Greeks from Greece have no exotic influence lol.The only migrations that influenced greeks were the same as at other balkanians but to a lesser degree.On the contrary Bulgaria was settled my many armenians at medieval years.

[Trun]

On the contrary Bulgaria was settled my many armenians at medieval years.

Source?

[gregorius]

Source?

Lol we settled everywhere you know :laugh:, There was a little group of armenaisn who battled along side with the thracians back than but the amount was nihil

[Trun]

Lol we settled everywhere you know :laugh:, but there where some Armenian soldiers who battled on the thracian side back in time and stayed there.

Well, that is true, but more Armenians settled in Greece than in Bulgaria. Especially during Byzantine times.

[gregorius]

Well, that is true, but more Armenians settled in Greece than in Bulgaria. Especially during Byzantine times.

that is correct, you are a tr00 historian

[HellLander87]

Well, that is true, but more Armenians settled in Greece than in Bulgaria. Especially during Byzantine times.

armenians were mostly settled in thrace.Greece in a big part of the byzantine years was under byzantine control only partially and intermittently.Thrace was a much more strategic place than greece due to proximity to constantinople so there were much effort to keep it under control.Population replacements etc were mostly focused on thrace.

[Trun]

armenians were mostly settled in thrace.Greece in a big part of the byzantine years was under byzantine control only partially and intermittently.Thrace was a much more strategic place than greece due to proximity to constantinople so there were much effort to keep it under control.Population replacements etc were mostly focused on thrace.

There were indeed assimilated Armenians in Bulgaria but their number is small. Not enough to affect the population significantly.

[dralos]

were they armeno nordics who settled there thats the big question

[Trun]

were they armeno nordics who settled there thats the big question

Bulgarian Catholics are thought to be partially descendants of Armenian Pavlikians. There are two Bulgarian Catholics. Decide by yourself :laugh:

http://www.monitor.bg/img/?id=130302&sz=0&cut=yes
http://www.plovdivutre.bg/images/articles/2013/07/177442//865c0c0b4ab0e063e5caa3387c1a8741e3ecb60335dc8aaf4d f20404e4fbc77a.jpg

[gregorius]

Bulgarian Catholics are thought to be partially descendants of Armenian Pavlikians. There are two Bulgarian Catholics. Decide by yourself :laugh:

http://www.monitor.bg/img/?id=130302&sz=0&cut=yes
http://www.plovdivutre.bg/images/articles/2013/07/177442//865c0c0b4ab0e063e5caa3387c1a8741e3ecb60335dc8aaf4d f20404e4fbc77a.jpg

those two should be deported to ukraine

[Also]

I know some albanians like to say they are the oldest in the Balkans. So maybe Albanians.

[dralos]

Bulgarian Catholics are thought to be partially descendants of Armenian Pavlikians. There are two Bulgarian Catholics. Decide by yourself :laugh:

http://www.monitor.bg/img/?id=130302&sz=0&cut=yes
http://www.plovdivutre.bg/images/articles/2013/07/177442//865c0c0b4ab0e063e5caa3387c1a8741e3ecb60335dc8aaf4d f20404e4fbc77a.jpg
seeing these picz i can only assume you bulgarian wogs made them more swarthy so the legend about the armeno nordics is true :p

[Kastrioti1443]

Bulgarian Catholics are thought to be partially descendants of Armenian Pavlikians. There are two Bulgarian Catholics. Decide by yourself :laugh:

http://www.monitor.bg/img/?id=130302&sz=0&cut=yes
http://www.plovdivutre.bg/images/articles/2013/07/177442//865c0c0b4ab0e063e5caa3387c1a8741e3ecb60335dc8aaf4d f20404e4fbc77a.jpg

They are not swarthy.


First is Gorid

Second is Dinarid with some Baltid influence.

[dralos]

I know some albanians like to say they are the oldest in the Balkans. So maybe Albanians.
we are my brasilian brother

[gregorius]

seeing these picz i can only assume you bulgarian wogs made them more swarthy so the legend about the armeno nordics is true :p

we are a lost nordic tribe

[dralos]

we are a lost nordic tribe
shame about that

[Kastrioti1443]

from gigolo


i would like to see wadaad and hurrem sultana in a islamic Story like wadaad gets awarded with a fine bosnian Girl for his "good deeds" for the Ottoman sultanate

:rolleyes2:

[dralos]

from gigolo



:rolleyes2:
this aint the place for swanes pornographic scenarios

[Kastrioti1443]

this aint the place for swanes pornographic scenarios

i consider him a man with talent

[CommonSense]

Vlachs. Albanians were always isolated with their own specific look.

[Lauχum]

The Balkan_IA sample from Bulgaria and the Mycenaean samples were very south shifted. Like Southern Italians but closer to Sardinia (Lazaridis et al 2017 and Mathieson et al 2018). Greeks and Albanians are the most south shifted Balkan peninsula populations hence they are the closest to the original Palaeo-Balkan people.

[Scholarios]

The Proto-Greeks arrived in the Balkans before Paleo-Balkan people, so I suppose they looked different. There were also other people already there before the arrival of the Proto-Greeks, and I guess someone today looks kinda like them, right?

[Nakama]

Non Slavic admixed Greeks are probably the closest to ancient Bakanites. Europe in the South was considerably more southern shifted in the past.