The True Arabid Phenotype

[JMack]

Seeing the discussion about 'arabids' and 'Arabs' in Apricity i'm always amazed by the anthropological ignorance of some members who claim to be good at classifying. They often use the term 'arabid' is if it was something extremely dark or non-caucasoid, almost in the same level as negroid. The reality is, of course, totally diferent and most non SSA mixed arabids are simply caucasoid and some can even pass for 'White'. I think it would be pedagogical to have a thread where we can post examples of pure Arabid/Semitic phenotype.

I will start with two examples:

1) Oded Fehr

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/charmed/images/8/88/Oded_Fehr-DGG-016694.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20101010172753

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2) Omar Borkan Al Gala

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2013/04/26/13/omar5.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/22/06/58/220658b5ac29e7bdcf207cb5a7659f1c.jpg

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[RN97]

Arabid was just a term used for arab meds. It's the same with irano-afghans only they were Iranian/ afghan ones. The easiest is just to say *insert region here* med rather than arabid, irano-afghan etc.

[ariel]

But most arabs are not pure arabs .they mixed with blacks for thousands of years so most of them are arabid-negroid mix.

[RN97]

But most arabs are not pure arabs .they mixed with blacks for thousands of years so most of them are arabid-negroid mix.

It's somewhat over-exaggerated. Most non-north African arabs do not have so much SSA blood, it's around 1,5-7% depending on the ethnicity.

[ariel]

It's somewhat over-exaggerated. Most non-north African arabs do not have so much SSA blood, it's around 1,5-7% depending on the ethnicity.

Palestinians have 11% and among yemenite its very high...

[JMack]

But most arabs are not pure arabs .they mixed with blacks for thousands of years so most of them are arabid-negroid mix.

I would not say most. A considerable quantity of them have visible traces of admixture. And generally in the range of 10%. It's not like most arabs are mulattoes today.

[RN97]

Palestinians have 11% and among yemenite its very high...

Proof? I think they have around 5-7%, it might be high among Yemenites, but Lebanese for example have equal or a bit lower amount of SSA than n. African jews.

[Egyptian]

Ahmed Mazher

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Ahmed_Mazhar.jpg

[ariel]

Non-Druze Arabs have clear traces of African admixture both in the form of "Mozabite" North African (4.5% for Palestinians, 4.9% for Bedouins), E African (6% for Palestinians and 5.7% for Bedouins) and a little Sub-Saharan (1.3% for Palestinians and 2.1% for Bedouins).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TLTNb6E0pSI/AAAAAAAACuU/4ulxt-ttHbk/s1600/near_east_africa.png

[RN97]

Non-Druze Arabs have clear traces of African admixture both in the form of "Mozabite" North African (4.5% for Palestinians, 4.9% for Bedouins), E African (6% for Palestinians and 5.7% for Bedouins) and a little Sub-Saharan (1.3% for Palestinians and 2.1% for Bedouins).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TLTNb6E0pSI/AAAAAAAACuU/4ulxt-ttHbk/s1600/near_east_africa.png

There is some SSA in the mozabite and east African, so Palestinians are more like 5-6% SSA according to that source. Still much less than you claimed.

[LieDetector]

Seeing the discussion about 'arabids' and 'Arabs' in Apricity i'm always amazed by the anthropological ignorance of some members who claim to be good at classifying. They often use the term 'arabid' is if it was something extremely dark or non-caucasoid, almost in the same level as negroid. The reality is, of course, totally diferent and most non SSA mixed arabids are simply caucasoid and some can even pass for 'White'. I think it would be pedagogical to have a thread where we can post examples of pure Arabid/Semitic phenotype.

I will start with two examples:



These are not pure Arabid/Semitic phenotypes. They are CLEARLY European influeneced.

This is a pure Arabid. Boxer Naseem Hamed

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_0ksqFkRoM4/hqdefault.jpg
http://ringsidereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Naseem.jpg

[JMack]

Non-Druze Arabs have clear traces of African admixture both in the form of "Mozabite" North African (4.5% for Palestinians, 4.9% for Bedouins), E African (6% for Palestinians and 5.7% for Bedouins) and a little Sub-Saharan (1.3% for Palestinians and 2.1% for Bedouins).

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/TLTNb6E0pSI/AAAAAAAACuU/4ulxt-ttHbk/s1600/near_east_africa.png

You're being dishonest. The 'North African' component is not necessarily Negroid. I have seen tests where Palestinians score something like 3% to 7% of pure SSA. Honestly, this low quantity is not significant to change their phenotype. Some southern Euro groups also have little amounts of SSA (2-3%) and that's not relevant to change phenotypes.

[JMack]

These are not pure Arabid/Semitic phenotypes. They are CLEARLY European influeneced.

This is a pure Arabid. Boxer Naseem Hamed

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/_0ksqFkRoM4/hqdefault.jpg
http://ringsidereport.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Naseem.jpg

No. These ones are clearly mixed. The other ones are typical arabids. You are clueless.

True Arabid is an Europid phenotype.

[Helloandgoodbye]

(Oded Fehr is of Ashkenazi ancestry.)

These are true Arabs:

Click here (http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.1145955.1353625288!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/seal28n-5-web.jpg)

Click here (https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/586175430874402816/uSeyepTa.jpg)

Click here (http://i0.wp.com/cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/590x/secondary/173167.jpg)

Click here (http://www.gettyimages.ca/detail/news-photo/foreign-minister-abdullah-bin-zayed-al-nahyan-of-united-news-photo/546938786#foreign-minister-abdullah-bin-zayed-al-nahyan-of-united-arab-emirates-picture-id546938786)

The reason why many Lebanese, for example, look like Biasutti's Meds is that they are a legacy of the Sea Peoples.

[JMack]

Clearly, most members here don't know shit about anthropology, history and classification. Any people with a brain knows that many of these mixed people they see as 'arabs' are in fact SSA influenced. Most Middle Easterners are Caucasian.

It's like saying an octoroon like Cristiano Ronaldo is a typical portuguese. Totally dishonest.

[Xacal]

http://m.buro247.me/images/CA1b_prince-sheikh-hamdan-bin-mohammed-al-maktoum-0a.jpg
http://cache.emirates247.com/polopoly_fs/1.528715.1452549026!/image/image.jpg

[Sacrificed Ram]

2) Omar Borkan Al Gala

https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2013/04/26/13/omar5.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/22/06/58/220658b5ac29e7bdcf207cb5a7659f1c.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/7f/bc/5e/7fbc5e92a7dcc80aa192c580b10c6629.jpg

Iranid-Eastmed.

[JMack]

Iranid-Eastmed.

He is too gracile to be Iranid. And I don't think that there is a substantial difference between pure arabid and east-med. There is an overlap.

[Enflamme]

Arabid was just a term used for arab meds. It's the same with irano-afghans only they were Iranian/ afghan ones. The easiest is just to say *insert region here* med rather than arabid, irano-afghan etc.

Arab are not European and they are not med (European type); end of the story.

Moreover, the Jews are known to be half-breeds and some have much European influence

Dude on the first picture on this thread is Jewish...

[Enflamme]

http://m.buro247.me/images/CA1b_prince-sheikh-hamdan-bin-mohammed-al-maktoum-0a.jpg
http://cache.emirates247.com/polopoly_fs/1.528715.1452549026!/image/image.jpg

He can not pass in Europe, consider this nose and these facial features AND GENETIC...

[Enflamme]

Clearly, most members here don't know shit about anthropology, history and classification. Any people with a brain knows that many of these mixed people they see as 'arabs' are in fact SSA influenced. Most Middle Easterners are Caucasian.

It's like saying an octoroon like Cristiano Ronaldo is a typical portuguese. Totally dishonest.

Caucasian to differentiate them from Sub-Saharan Negroes? Yes, we can easily differentiate them ... some are even Europid, but certainly not all.

The North Africans are half-breeds who have a negro part mixed with a Berber and "Arab" part (because both are different) and for Middle Eastern people, some do not have a Negro part but are still not europid.


But there are some Europid types like the Assad family, but you will notice that these people are genuine Europid uninfluenced by any Oriental or Negro type.


https://heavyeditorial.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/assad-e1491604069394.jpg?quality=65&strip=all