South Caucasians: Genetically closer to North Caucasians or to other Southwest Asians?

[Alhx'o Khasanov]

South Caucasus is Georgia, Armenia, and Azerbaijan. North Caucasus is Krasnodar Krai, Stavropol Krai, and the constituent republics, approximately from west to east: the Republic of Adygea, Karachay–Cherkessia, Kabardino-Balkaria, North Ossetia–Alania, Ingushetia, Chechnya, and the Republic of Dagestan(from Wikpedia.org). Southwest Asia is basically this:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/37/Western_Asia_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg/200px-Western_Asia_%28orthographic_projection%29.svg.png

[Полковник 95]

SW Asians (Iranians, Kurds).

[Hadouken]

we are not sw asian . sw asia = gulf etc

[TenaciousTopologist]

hmm mountains can definitely be a genetic barrier. I would wager they are closer to ethnicities to the south and west (kurds, anatolians).

[Vyasa]

hmm mountains can definitely be a genetic barrier. I would wager they are closer to ethnicities to the south and west (kurds, anatolians).

True. Because of mountainous barrier, nepal today is western aryan nation while its neighbours india and china are non-aryan

[interes]

SW Asians (Iranians, Kurds).

w. georgian have same genetic of circassians, but circassians have moch more mongoloid and asian face , abkhazian look like w. georgians but are bit darker and have bit more mogoloid face than w. georgians . east georgians look like aremenians ( only kakhetians) but not azeris. armenian DNA( R1b) chose west europe much than circassians and N caucasians , so S caucasians have more EURO dna than N caucasians

[cmt160]

Halfway inbetween. What's so hard to understand. And maybe it could depend on the region or EVEN on the individual.

[Feiichy]

Not close at all to SW Asians. SW Asia is Arabian Peninsula. Iraq, Syria, Iran etc are NW Asia.

[interes]

Not close at all to SW Asians. SW Asia is Arabian Peninsula. Iraq, Syria, Iran etc are NW Asia.

most georgians and circassians have G2 DNA but some circassians are mongoloid and look like more Central asians ( kyrgiz or tadjik ) than georgians

[Leto]

w. georgian have same genetic of circassians, but circassians have moch more mongoloid and asian face , abkhazian look like w. georgians but are bit darker and have bit more mogoloid face than w. georgians . east georgians look like aremenians ( only kakhetians) but not azeris. armenian DNA( R1b) chose west europe much than circassians and N caucasians , so S caucasians have more EURO dna than N caucasians
I don't think Abkhazians are darker than West Georgians, they're nearly identical. Also, you're totally wrong about the North Caucasus because it is in fact much more Northern than any part of Georgia. Yes, the Mongoloid influence is quite significant in the Northwestern Caucasus but overall, North Caucasians have much more Steppe/Yamnaya-related ancestry than Georgians which seem to have little to none. In particular Dagestan (except for the Kumyks) is like 30-40% Steppe. Chechens are about 25-30%. Swarthyness does not necessarily correlate with the level of Steppe admixture.

[interes]

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[interes]

I don't think Abkhazians are darker than West Georgians, they're nearly identical. Also, you're totally wrong about the North Caucasus because it is in fact much more Northern than any part of Georgia. Yes, the Mongoloid influence is quite significant in the Northwestern Caucasus but overall, North Caucasians have much more Steppe/Yamnaya-related ancestry than Georgians which seem to have little to none. In particular Dagestan (except for the Kumyks) is like 30-40% Steppe. Chechens are about 25-30%. Swarthyness does not necessarily correlate with the level of Steppe admixture.

hm . abkhazians are not much darker than w. georgians . and are lighter than adjarians i think but , imeretins who living especial more southern or in kutaisi have more light hair ( but ithink not skin Color) than abkhazians , i say imeretins have more light hair than abkhazians on average , but skin color they have same complexion do not you agree with me? ali statestic from russian or georgian antropologists say this . Similar pigmentation of Western Georgians and Abkhazians will be thought of only by those who think that the Aphazians are further north and may have similarly depigmented individuals. And in fact, he has not seen the West Georgian sub-ethnic groups at all and compares only based on the geographical location.

As for the North Caucasians, they living more northern but they are much darker, compared to the same Gurians or Magrelians. and circassians look like more mongloloids see in google photos of adygea this people more 40% look like Central azians or kyrgiz or tajik than Gurians or imeretins or megrelians .

P.S nu interesno ti videl imeretin realnom jizne ili abxazov? i ti shitaesh chto u imeretin net bolshe rijix ili blondinov chem abxazov ? a statestika gavarit naa barot oni prosta prajivaiut bole iujnee chem abxazi tolko etom logike mojna shitat chto abxazi ne temne chem zapadnie gruzini a realnosti statestika gavarit o drugom. nujno skazat esho chto irlandci garazda temne chem nemci ili daniici katorie projivaiut bole iujne i vastochnee tak chto esli ti tak dumaesh tvaia logika ne savsem rava asobenoo kogda dela kasaetsa na cvet volos . a po cvet koji isho mojna sporit.


P.s i esho chtoza stepnie predki? :) eto izdevatelstvo chtoli? kakoi esho dagestanci blin kak ia znaiu kromi avara tam netu svetlix vabeshe , no mongoloidava ia ne poshital chechencev i dagestancev ia shitaiu tolko cherkezov mongoloidov i ia ochen daje samnevaius chto unix bole evropeskie v neshnosti ( to m chisle sseverna evropeiskie chem u zap.gruzin ) nu sravni ix s guriicami na faccebook xatiabi , ti esho raz akcentiruesh chto oni prajivaiut bole sevrnee i eto pravda no oni iavlaitsia temni po cvet volos ( mojetbit ne tomnie po cvet koji) sravnenie tex je guriicev nu etoje ochividna , no isho i silna mongoloidi ochen silna ia daje udevlen bil potomuchto dumal chto oni kak zapadnie gruzini no ia ix videl i bum svoim glazami ne veril chto oni vabshe kavkazci lol. ia narmalna otnashus cherkezov ia shas ne protiv ix no fakt est fakt oni vcelom paxoje 40% bole asiatov chem gruzin a dalshe 60% mojna ix otnesti kak zapadnix gruzin, kak i drugix sevrnix kavkazcev , no svetlos s. kavkazcev eto smeshno, u nix odin kadirov est i uje mozg.vv .aaali a te je drugie prezidenti katorie iz zapada naprimer shevarnadze ili s. zurabishvili katorie ievlaitsia guriicami sametna svetlee chem teje chechenci srednem.

[interes]

I don't think Abkhazians are darker than West Georgians, they're nearly identical. Also, you're totally wrong about the North Caucasus because it is in fact much more Northern than any part of Georgia. Yes, the Mongoloid influence is quite significant in the Northwestern Caucasus but overall, North Caucasians have much more Steppe/Yamnaya-related ancestry than Georgians which seem to have little to none. In particular Dagestan (except for the Kumyks) is like 30-40% Steppe. Chechens are about 25-30%. Swarthyness does not necessarily correlate with the level of Steppe admixture.

and dagestan people average are not lighter than kartlins ( central georgians) maybe they have dna of cromanoids idk but pigmentation they ara darker than most east georgians .

nu ia vsetaki po antropologichekom statestike snova esli ni shitat avarcev chto dagestanci iavna temia chem daje kartlici katorie vrazi temnia chem zap, gruzini teje v statestike, chtkoasaetsa genetiku mojet bit est u dagav ettot geni no i che? ani ne produktivni takom sluche ne vidna chto ani svetlee chem daje bolshenstvo vastochnie gruzini ix mojna vidit v maxachkale a ani nebudet ne kak svetli mi chem naprimer kartlici iz gori, osetini isho mojna no nekak dagestanci klinus bogam ne oni :) dakt genentika odna oa pigmentacia i antropologia uje drugaia tema nevsegda saatvstvuet realnosti