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Kazimiera
04-22-2017, 10:35 PM
Body Positivity is Killing Women

Source: https://areomagazine.com/2017/04/20/body-positivity-is-killing-women/

https://areomagazine.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/longform-original-15368-1431644962-30.jpg

hat do the hashtags #IWontCompromise, #EffYourBeautyStandards, #DareToWear, #AndIGetDressed have in common? They are all ultra intersectional feminist, “body positive,” and have accumulated over 700,000+ tags and counting on Instagram. Oh, and they are also killing women.

Allow me to explain.

No matter how many ludicrous comments saturate pictures of these body positive heroines, obesity is still a massive (no pun) issue within the health system. £25,000 is being spent a minute within the NHS (the U.K.’s national health service) on diabetes alone. In total, an estimated £14 billion is spent a year on treating diabetes and its complications, with the cost of treating complications representing the much higher cost. That number is just scratching the surface, with heart disease, high blood pressure and a copious amount of other obesity related chronic illnesses that are crushing health systems across the western world.

When the inevitable happens, and the obese patient is told that it is now a matter of life and death, the NHS seems to be freely handing out bypass surgeries at the cost of a tidy estimation of £32 million. Yikes. How many nurses would that pay for? How many beds would cater for generally ill people? Imagine how well equipped cancer wards could be with that nice little bonus?

I know what you’re thinking, and it’s a theory that many people leap to when trying to fight against such a precipitous argument. What if the obese person we are currently critiquing has a health problem that causes weight gain? True, there are things that go wrong in the body that will cause unwanted or unprovoked weight gain. I myself suffer from hypothyroidism — which means lacking the function to create thyroxine and triiodothyronine, so my metabolic rate is constantly slow, which causes weight gain. I also have to take tablets that cause on average a 20 lb weight gain, and I also suffer from many joint and pain afflictions, that I will not bore you with the unpronounceable names of. Essentially, my point is I have every excuse in the world to have a weight problem, and be all “body positivity.”

A couple of years ago I did, being a former obese twenty something who was ashamed of her folds and rolls. Now, I am 55 lbs down and still going, I get frantically asked how I did it. No, not body positive, feeling but the fact of healthy eating and exercise. Yeah, those old chestnuts. Disappointing for those who were expecting some magical feel good story. Unfortunately, real life is much more prosaic. It’s a fight. Fighting is hard, and I think therein lies the problem. You don’t get fat by running, you get fat by over eating and not moving enough. Laze and greed to be mercilessly honest. Two genuinely appalling attributes that should not be revered, and is not positive by any means


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpRtHludQDo

Not convinced? Still cheerleading behind the big gals who parade in bikinis in train stations to convince people (and probably themselves) that it’s fine to be fat? Ok, how about another angle?

As I previously ran my own fashion label which was published in multiple international issues of Vogue, I noticed how these ultra-feminists attack the fashion industry. Models being too thin, companies not making a big enough selection of plus sized clothes, and designer labels not making plus size clothes at all.

The way these ladies will twist the truth to make it sound like they’re being victimized by the fashion industry is incredible. Of course reality is not as conspiratorial as these feminists would like you to believe. The majority of the time when a fashion brand uses bigger models for clothes that aren’t exclusively for bigger customers, the campaign loses money. The clothes don’t sell as well as ones that were used on smaller models. And whose fault is that? The consumer.

Chanel, Gucci, Givenchy etc. don’t have plus size collections because generally plus size women don’t spend hundreds of pounds on clothing. If these growing numbers of avid hashtag users were so happy with their shape, why isn’t the fashion industry changing? They’re excluding 24.9% of British who are obese from buying their products. Because that 24.9% aren’t buying them. Of course, I’m pleased we’re slowly crawling out of the heroin chic of the 90s, which was the other extreme of the spectrum, but it shouldn’t be replaced with the opposite end.

The most popular hashtag, #EffYourBeautyStandards, is headed by plus size model Tess Holliday, a 31-year-old American woman, and someone who is deemed by the health system as super morbidly obese. She absurdly believes that she can be healthy at the shocking weight of 280 lbs, a comment that she preaches to her 1.7 million followers on Instagram. In my opinion, that is not only dangerous, but outrageously irresponsible. Many of her followers are teenagers, being told their unhealthy lifestyle is fine, to carry on, not being given the warnings of the inevitable, of illness, pain, disability and eventually death. Even on her website’s front page, she describes herself as a body positive ambassador. What positivity is she speaking of?

https://areomagazine.files.wordpress.com/2017/04/tess.jpg

#EffYourBeautyStandards is a misleading line, again, blaming the standards in which society and the fashion/beauty industries are making everybody envision what real beauty is like. I’m pretty sure we all have brains, and understand Photoshop/airbrushing etc., right? I don’t look at Kim Kardashian and wonder why I have a Buddha belly to match my big bum and she somehow embodies the most “perfect” curves without a sight of a stretch mark or a quiver of cellulite. This isn’t a question of beauty. It isn’t a question of standards. It’s an important debate that questions the seriousness of the damage this movement is causing.

The fact one needs to state something so obvious is itself ridiculous. It’s time to wake up. Obesity is not positive. It’s a dangerous plague that is being fueled by disillusioned women convincing themselves that they are happy, while leading a generation into early graves.

Dandelion
04-22-2017, 10:36 PM
The answer is moderation. :D

jingorex
04-22-2017, 10:38 PM
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BeerBaron
04-22-2017, 10:45 PM
Pretty much everything the left does is a massive cock up. It's to the point I don't recognize the world from just 15 years ago

Marmie Dearest
06-19-2017, 03:12 AM
I agree. The fat positive thing isn't good for anyone, male or female. There's a difference between saying no I'm not going to starve myself to weigh 90 lbs and just letting yourself be unhealthy and obese. One of my old friends is one of these conformist social liberals and I find it disturbing because she developed type 2 diabetes before age 40 and one of her daughters hasn't even hit puberty and she's already chubby...not like little girl chubby, but like seriously give me a break and she's all into this fat positive garbage.

I wouldn't want to be married to a man so large he was unhealthy and unattractive so why would I think it's ok for me. Even in celibate or non romantic issues it's a terrible health problem which is both an individual and societal burden.

Al-Meksiki
06-19-2017, 03:22 AM
If the fat doesnt kill ya, cancer will

Vyasa
06-19-2017, 03:35 AM
also it doesn't have its intended effect namely recognition of fat women as beautiful.

Sekarotuinen
06-19-2017, 10:27 AM
Fat is gross, fat people SHOULD be ashamed, ans should work in improving themselves.

ProEuropa
07-03-2017, 12:29 AM
I don't understand how you could be against ''looking healthy'', for both men and women. No excess, no shortage, just a healthy balance.

Nehellenia
07-03-2017, 12:46 AM
I myself suffer from hypothyroidism — which means lacking the function to create thyroxine and triiodothyronine, so my metabolic rate is constantly slow, which causes weight gain.

I have the same problem, i had thyroid cancer and few years ago and i have to take thyroxine to live as i no longer have that organ, i am not pretending to have a thyroid problem, i have no thyroid at all xD i also have PCOS, but i have never been obese and it annoys me when such women try to use those disorders to justify their obese size.. most are lying of course too and hiding the realisation they are addicted to food or unhappy in themselves and need help. It's not easy to loose weight (for some people medically) but it can't be impossible, as long as you bother to try to be healthy (at least eat healthy as often as possible) and make slow progress rather than none at all, it's a step in the right direction.
Giving up is too easy but so many girls like this do so and feel justified because other similar girls are doing the same thing, they no longer feel the need to change, instead the society must change attitude isn't helping them or anyone else.



The fact one needs to state something so obvious is itself ridiculous. It’s time to wake up. Obesity is not positive. It’s a dangerous plague that is being fueled by disillusioned women convincing themselves that they are happy, while leading a generation into early graves.

They are so far in denial from disappointment in themselves and their looks, that they've had to flip it on it's head in order to cope with the damage they've done to their body.. they are no different from alcoholics or drug addicts who refuse to see they have a problem which may kill them, and without the realisation of this, they will die young. It's also an eating disorder (to those addicted to food) that anorexics/bulimics are obsessed with loosing the most weight, neither are healthy but it becomes their life unless they face what they need to do to be healthy again and that the lifestyle is only killing them. Tess Holliday is a terrible 'role model' anyway, and i feel 'models' like her are only in it for the attention they were wanting growing up, and are also in denial about how easy it is to die.. sending women to an early grave by saying it's ok is bad, whether you're a size 0 or 20.

mosaic potato
01-25-2018, 02:09 PM
Killing women? Its killing all of us, including us that aren't fatso liberal cucks. Fat acceptance is about as useful as an acceptance movement for suicide bombers.

It is not just the ignorant fat women who are ruining the dating scene. It is men with very low standards who would fuck them, and the feminist media that pander to them.

If there was no market for fat women, there wouldn't be any, or there certainly would be less.

I worked in Japan for 6 months in 2004. Fat women are not tolerated in Japanese society. Only Sumo men can be allowed to be fat.

Social conditioning is to blame.

Thordis
01-26-2018, 08:54 PM
According to Wikipedia, the Body Positive Movement is supposed to be "a movement that encourages people to adopt more forgiving and affirming attitudes towards their bodies, with the goal of improving overall health and well-being." So far so good, there is nothing essentially wrong with people valuing their natural state and authentic, unique beauty. Especially nowadays the mainstream ideal of beauty has been set by glamorous magazines depicting picture perfect celebrities. The problem with this image is that it is highly unrealistic. Those stars themselves do not look like that, as those images are often photoshopped/airbrushed to remove any imperfection(s). Another trend amongst celebrities is cosmetic surgery. It is becoming more and more common and fashionable, where you have young and pretty women who are willing to go under the knife and obsess about correcting anything that doesn't look symmetrical and flawless. Tweaking their appearance though make up is no longer enough; now you have mothers who give their teenaged daughters botox injections for their birthdays. Problems that arise from females constantly criticizing their body can lead to anxiety, depression or eating disorders. In such an environment, cultivating self-love and offering acceptance and support seems like a rational and sensible counter-reaction.

The fat acceptance movement or "adipositivity" is a subculture claiming to promote this kind of body positivity, accepting women of all sizes and shapes. And that is one of their favorite phrases, that beauty knows no size. While beauty is indeed not limited to a certain body type, one should also be careful about encouraging extremes. It's one thing to recognize the fact that some women are hourglass-shaped while others are pear-shaped or androgynous, and another to promote extremes as the new normal. Naturally, some women will have wider hips while others may be more narrow. Different female body types may also deposit fat differently, e.g. apple shaped women have a fullness around the middle, those with an inverted triangle shape have flat hips and bottoms while pear or lean column shaped women have flatter chests.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/02/article-2440176-186F9D1400000578-349_964x589.jpg

Fat acceptance however doesn't celebrate the diversity of sizes. It defines a "real woman" as "curvy", another term that has been hijacked by fat acceptance people. A curvy woman used to mean one that had an hourglass or pear-shaped figure, a smaller waist with wider hips, now it's used as a politically correct euphemism to replace fat & even obese. And here is where again, fat acceptance errs. A "real woman" can be many things in terms of attractiveness. Men have various preferences and it's normal and natural to accept it as is. Fat acceptance instead makes obesity as an idealized standard, a chart according to which men should be guided, or they aren't "real men". Overweight individuals are encoraged to "celebrate" their condition and discouraged from losing weight, which is something fat feminists are completely against. Laura S. Brown, author of "Fat Oppression and Psychotherapy", examines that "being fat isn't unhealthy".

So fat acceptance is not just about trying to change anti-fat bias. It's a promotion of a downright unhealthy deviancy. This (https://78.media.tumblr.com/4d4fd79bfa508b9fb0247ef78cd7df81/tumblr_naqoy4hHue1td367ko1_500.png) is a telling example, it's not just about how ostentatious fat acceptance is. Just imagine the reverse, if someone had posted a picture of them in their underwear, showing skin and bones, they'd have quickly been catalogued as mentally disturbed. The difference is, pro-Ana, Thinspiration cults (anorexic, bulimic) are universally known and understood to promote an illness. Fat acceptance belongs in the same category.

What differentiates fat acceptance from other acceptance cultures is, with very few exceptions, fat is not a condition one is born with & has no choice & no power over it. In fact, fat acceptance promotes excessive eating and looks down on exercizing and other activities which prevent and combat obesity. In other words, counterproductive and hazardous to health.

This is the peak of the empowered, "fativist" woman:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0W2yMpjSr48

wvwvw
01-26-2018, 09:26 PM
Fat is gross, fat people SHOULD be ashamed, ans should work in improving themselves.

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Peterski
01-29-2018, 10:47 PM
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^^^ Ideal Early Neolithic Farmer, ancestor of Greeks: :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnYHWUTkFMU

idioteque
01-30-2018, 12:57 AM
Being fat is not healthy - bottom line.

And why should we feel forced to think that it is attractive? I personally do not. If someone else likes it (genuinely), then all the power to them. Stop trying to dictate what is attractive. If I do not want to date a fat person because they are not attractive to me, then I am not going to date them. What is so hard?