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Noman
04-29-2017, 02:20 AM
http://i.imgur.com/DiPK4PF.jpg

According to British writer David Hughes, Author of "The British Chronicles Book Two", there were total 9 off-springs of Alexander: The Great including legitimate and illegitimate.

http://i67.tinypic.com/2a4sqkn.png

Link to the the family tree of Alexander: The Great:

https://books.google.com/books?id=ZABSepHO1FMC&pg=PA603&lpg=PA603&dq=Subhuti+of+Paropamisdae&source=bl&ots=GjE_fNppR6&sig=6LHc_JSB7DXO5amCVPXAhdeKfOM&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjwrb-09KfTAhUp5oMKHdMSDz4Q6AEIMTAD#v=onepage&q=Subhuti%20of%20Paropamisdae&f=false

List of Wives I could find so far:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roxana
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandake
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barsine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stateira_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parysatis_II
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleophis

What opinions do you guys have regarding this book?

Petros Houhoulis
04-30-2017, 06:46 PM
None of the sons other than Alexander IV and Heracles were ever proclaimed as sons of Alexander, and the second is not a solid case either.

Alexander didn't really spend too much time fucking... His marriages were mainly for political reasons - two of them were daughters of Darius III - except for Roxanne.

Noman
05-01-2017, 02:32 AM
None of the sons other than Alexander IV and Heracles were ever proclaimed as sons of Alexander, and the second is not a solid case either.

Alexander didn't really spend too much time fucking... His marriages were mainly for political reasons - two of them were daughters of Darius III - except for Roxanne.

Would you mind posting your sources for the claims you have made?

Meanwhile, how do you oppose them?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV7pOB_YQYU

My sources regarding Alexander and Cleophis (Kripa) having a son:

https://books.google.com/books?id=0JuhAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=alexander+cleophis+son&source=bl&ots=f2hVYhLAP7&sig=LYVofjclvyrOIgtCwOOmOvTRrdA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5qYX1z83TAhVs_4MKHcnxC_IQ6AEIQDAE#v=on epage&q=alexander%20cleophis%20son&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=ioE2AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA383&lpg=PA383&dq=alexander+cleophis+son&source=bl&ots=12a0cMUMtS&sig=FEWR-U3H3lC18MaXIPmPx83zja4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5qYX1z83TAhVs_4MKHcnxC_IQ6AEIVTAI#v=on epage&q=alexander%20cleophis%20son&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=TKbqDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT356&dq=alexander+cleophis+son&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgjuTp0M3TAhXKxYMKHaGkB6MQ6AEIKzAB#v=on epage&q=alexander%20cleophis%20son&f=false

catgeorge
05-01-2017, 02:43 AM
The lineage went on for a while but dont think it exists anymore.

When Romans took over governing the territories the Greeks won it is difficult to find the royal lineages almost impossible.

Byzantine royal lineage is real and the possibility of it surviving today is very high

https://cemeteryparks.wordpress.com/2005/12/04/ferdinando-paleologus-tomb/

Coolguy1
05-01-2017, 02:46 AM
Would you mind posting your sources for the claims you have made?

Meanwhile, how do you oppose them?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV7pOB_YQYU

My sources regarding Alexander and Cleophis (Kripa) having a son:

https://books.google.com/books?id=0JuhAwAAQBAJ&pg=PA172&lpg=PA172&dq=alexander+cleophis+son&source=bl&ots=f2hVYhLAP7&sig=LYVofjclvyrOIgtCwOOmOvTRrdA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5qYX1z83TAhVs_4MKHcnxC_IQ6AEIQDAE#v=on epage&q=alexander%20cleophis%20son&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=ioE2AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA383&lpg=PA383&dq=alexander+cleophis+son&source=bl&ots=12a0cMUMtS&sig=FEWR-U3H3lC18MaXIPmPx83zja4&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5qYX1z83TAhVs_4MKHcnxC_IQ6AEIVTAI#v=on epage&q=alexander%20cleophis%20son&f=false

https://books.google.com/books?id=TKbqDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT356&dq=alexander+cleophis+son&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgjuTp0M3TAhXKxYMKHaGkB6MQ6AEIKzAB#v=on epage&q=alexander%20cleophis%20son&f=false

Neither linguistically nor genetically do these people have nothing to do with Greeks.

The estimates by Qamar et al. of Greek admixture has been dismissed by Toomas Kivisild et al. (2003) stating that “some admixture models and programs that exist are not always adequate and realistic estimators of gene flow between populations ... this is particularly the case when markers are used that do not have enough restrictive power to determine the source populations ... or when there are more than two parental populations. In that case, a simplistic model using two parental populations would show a bias towards overestimating admixture”.[43] The study came to the conclusion that the Kalash population estimate by Qamar et al. “is unrealistic and is likely also driven by the low marker resolution that pooled southern and western Asian–specific Y-chromosome Haplogroup H together with European-specific Haplogroup I, into an uninformative polyphyletic cluster 2”.[43]

Discover Magazine genetics blogger Razib Khan has repeatedly cited information indicating that the Kalash are an Indo-Iranian people with no Greek ethnic admixture.[44][45][46]

A study by Firasat et al. (2006) concluded that the Kalash lack typical Greek Haplogroups such as Haplogroup 21 (E-M35),[47]

Some of the Kalash people claim to be descendants of Alexander the Great's soldiers;[48] and a recent genetic analysis has substantiated this belief. A study by Hellenthal et al. (2014) on the DNA of the Kalash people showed evidence of input from modern day Germany and Austria between 990 and 210 BC, a period that overlaps with that of Alexander the Great.[49][50][51] There also has been speculations that Kalasha forefathers might have been descended from ancient Middle East.[5][better source needed]

Noman
05-01-2017, 03:28 AM
Thank you for shedding some light, guys.

Noman
05-01-2017, 05:18 AM
MODS! Please delete the thread. I got an answer. Thank you!