Jewish Admixture by Country...

[Rethel]

Does exist something like that? :confused:

[RMuller]

Does exist something like that? :confused:

Is there any Polish that score more than 1% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

[Costas]

I score 1.0% Ashkenazi :p

[Antimage]

section:Autosomal DNA
Why you care about autosomal? Aren't you haplogroupist?:O

[Anglojew]

I read somewhere 2% of Polish YDNA is Jewish. Can't remember where I read this.

I see a lot of Poles that obviously are Jewish admixed.

[catgeorge]

Does exist something like that? :confused:

Such thing exist? isnt Jewish a religion. How can you have religious admixtures - world gone crazy

Is there Christian admixtures anywhere?

[Rethel]

section:Autosomal DNA
Why you care about autosomal? Aren't you haplogroupist?:O

Why I can't be curious about it?
Did I ever deny exiting of autosomal, or what?


Is there any Polish that score more than 1% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

Idk, probably are.
I don't remember exactly, but average is probably 1.5%.

[Anglojew]

Why I can't be curious about it?
Did I ever deny exiting of autosomal, or what?



Idk, probably are.
I don't remember exactly, but average is probably 1.5%.

I discovered on 23&me one of my recent ancestors was an ethnic Pole so the admixture went both ways. I've been in contact with some ethnic-Polish relatives which was interesting. I'd like to meet them one day.

[Isleño]

Such thing exist? isnt Jewish a religion. How can you have religious admixtures - world gone crazy

Is there Christian admixtures anywhere?Jewish is not just a religion, it's an ethnic group identifiable by DNA. Christian is only religion.

[Peterski]

Is there any Polish that score more than 1% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

I saw only few Polish 23andMe results in total (FTDNA is more popular in Poland).

User Wojewoda from ABF scores 1.5% Jewish on 23andMe, but 0% on DNA Land:

23andMe:

100% European

74.7% Eastern European
10.8% North-Western European
6.8% Southern European
1.5% Ashkenazi Jewish
6.2% Broadly European

DNA Land:

100% West Eurasian

77% North Slavic
2.7% North-Western European
11% South-Western European
8.9% Mediterranean Islander

I suppose that DNA Land counted his Jewish as part of "Mediterranean Islander".

[catgeorge]

Jewish is not just a religion, it's an ethnic group identifiable by DNA. Christian is only religion.

WUT

[Antimage]

Why I can't be curious about it?
Did I ever deny exiting of autosomal, or what?



Idk, probably are.
I don't remember exactly, but average is probably 1.5%.

Reading your posts I always got the impression only haplogroup matter to you. But apparently this impression was wrong.

But I still think you put way too big emphasis on HG

[Rethel]

Jewish is not just a religion, it's an ethnic group identifiable by DNA. Christian is only religion.

Some time ago only European were Christians, and Arabs
were Muslims. If you would then checked them by DNA,
you would also have some Christian or Muslim DNA. Jews
are a religion, especially, that at peasent day, there is
a lot of converts, halflings and others mixes. If not, then
Mormons, Amishes and Mennonites are a race too, cause
they are only mixing with themsleves, as Jews did.

Let a Jew explain it to you: https://youtu.be/U4SyFme7e5g?t=12m28s

[Sebastianus Rex]

There's no identifiable "jewish autosomal DNA", just components that are share by many populations to a higher or lower degree.

[Rethel]

Reading your posts I always got the impression only haplogroup matter to you. But apparently this impression was wrong.

Everything has it's own place.
I only am against missusing things.

Autosomal is good in the general population
research to see, how people migrated, mixed,
and how did they looked like in the past. Thats
all - it is not about, who you are, and if somebody
is talking such nonsense, then I am obviously protesting.

This is also, why idividual au-tests are senseless: firstly,
because they have sense in larger population or territory,
and secondly, casue can be missused by stupid people.


But I still think you put way too big emphasis on HG

Hgs are meaningless itself, bute Y-hgs are a proof of people provenance,
exactly the same, as certificate of birth is, but better and final. You can
forge it not, neither lost it - certificate, unfortunatly, you can. It is only
a tool, as any other tools, prooving provenance of somebody.

[Lucas]

Eurogenes Jtest avearges but they are misleading. Polako said 3% is a noise. Some countries have also bigger frequencies due being more southern generally for example (Sardinia).

opulation ASHKENAZI
AJ 28,9
Moroccan 7,79
South_Italian_&_Sicilian 7,59
Mozabite_Berber 7,51
Tuscan 6,93
GR 6,86
Mandean 6,43
Algerian 6,4
Armenian 6,2
North_Italian 5,81
Samaritan 5,7
Assyrian 5,69
RO 5,65
Sardinian 5,59
PT 5,56
ES 5,27
Druze 5,05
AT 4,97
FR 4,89
GE 4,77
Kurdish 4,55
TR 4,5
HU 4,22
IQ 4,17
Serbian 4,07
French_Basque 3,89
IR 3,74
Ukrainian-Russian 3,7
Cornish 3,52
English 3,52
West_Russian 3,29
DK 3,16
PL 3,11
NL 3,05
Scottish 2,96
West_&_Central_German 2,95
Orcadian 2,74
Bedouin 2,54
UA 2,51
Northwest_Russian 2,42
North_Russian 2,25
Erzya 2,2
East_Russian 2,18
NO 2,04
IE 1,94
Belorussian 1,79
South_&_Central_Swedish 1,7
Lezgin 1,62
LIT 1,58
North_Swedish 1,1
South_Finnish 1,03
Ethiopian 1,01
KZ 1,01
Balochi 0,97
East_Finnish 0,74
Brahui 0,68
EE 0,59
South_Indian 0,5
Udmurt 0,31
Bangladeshi 0,23
Sindhi 0,18
IN 0,16
Luhya 0,14
Yoruba 0,12
Gujarati 0,07
Burusho 0,06
Somali 0,02
Komi 0,01

[Rethel]

opulation ASHKENAZI
AJ 28,9

Aszkenazy mają trzydzieści procent aszkenazowego dna? :)

[Rethel]

Jewish is not just a religion, it's an ethnic group identifiable by DNA. Christian is only religion.

Let Jew explains it to you (atempt 2): http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?209523-A-Jewish-Rebbe-From-USA-Exellently-Totally-Destroying-TA-s-Atheojews-amp-Others-AutosomaloTAtards

[Smitty]

Jewish is not just a religion, it's an ethnic group identifiable by DNA. Christian is only religion.


WUT

Ashkenazi Jews, at least, are. I've always known this. I don't know why you'd get a thumbs down for it, Isleño. If it isn't, why would Hitler have cared about mischlings, or even full Jews, for that matter? As long as they were secular or Christian, he shouldn't have cared.

[Not a Cop]

WUT

Ashkenazi is a legit and highly homogenous genetic term.

[Rethel]

mix


Miks miksem, ale w takim razie co to jest ten aszkowski admiks? Bliskowschodni?

[catgeorge]

Ashkenazi is a legit and highly homogenous genetic term.

In which planet?

If you call Euro-Arab-Iberian originally from Baltics ex Khazar as homogenous be my guest.

[Petalpusher]

In which planet?

If you call Euro-Arab-Iberian originally from Baltics ex Khazar as homogenous be my guest.

Having several ancestral origins doesn't mean you cannot be an homogeneous group today. Full Ashkenazi are close together genetically, they even try to keep it that way on purpose.

The genesis of the group is something like 50% Levantine + 35% Italy-Greece + 12% East Euro + 3% West Europe according to the best estimations in studies.

https://shaicarmi.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/aj_admixture_poster.pdf

[Lucas]

Having several ancestral origins doesn't mean you cannot be an homogeneous group today. Full Ashkenazi are close together genetically, they even try to keep it that way on purpose.

The genesis of the group is something like 50% Levantine + 35% Italy-Greece + 12% East Euro + 3% West Europe according to the best estimations in studies.

https://shaicarmi.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/aj_admixture_poster.pdf

Yes, only more homogenous group in Gedmatch are suprsingly Finns...

[oszkar07]

Yes, only more homogenous group in Gedmatch are suprsingly Finns...

I thought Icelanders were also quite homogenous.

[Rethel]

Yes, only more homogenous group in Gedmatch are suprsingly Finns...

Not necessarly surprusingly. 20,000 people 1000 years ago in small area,
much less earlier, many population breakdowns - and it could happen.

[Peterski]

Is there any Polish that score more than 1% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

According to TA user Rothaer (German), most of Poles score at least a little bit (>0.1%) of AJ on 23andMe.

He actually asked me to check what % of my 23andMe relatives score AJ, I will have to count this one day.

As for these who score >1%, probably a much smaller % than these who score between 0.1% and 1% AJ.

[Abriekman]

According to TA user Rothaer (German), most of Poles score at least a little bit (>0.1%) of AJ on 23andMe.

He actually asked me to check what % of my 23andMe relatives score AJ, I will have to count this one day.

As for these who score >1%, probably a much smaller % than these who score between 0.1% and 1% AJ.

No, most of Poles usually score 0.0% Ashkenazi admixture. If a Pole scores some Jewish he lives in southeast part of country, even not majority there, so why we talk about majority of country population

We can even do not take those number in statistics, when we run 1% Ashkenazi person we usually do not see Semitic on G25

[Polak]

Is there any Polish that score more than 1% Ashkenazi on 23andme?

Me

[Satem]

No, most of Poles usually score 0.0% Ashkenazi admixture. If a Pole scores some Jewish he lives in southeast part of country, even not majority there, so why we talk about majority of country population

We can even do not take those number in statistics, when we run 1% Ashkenazi person we usually do not see Semitic on G25

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Jews lived mostly in cities so people who have ancestors living in cities for ages also can have such admixture imo

[Polak]

No, most of Poles usually score 0.0% Ashkenazi admixture. If a Pole scores some Jewish he lives in southeast part of country, even not majority there, so why we talk about majority of country population


I scored more than 1% on 23andme and my Polish family is from Greater Poland (Poznań, Łęczyca, Sieradzkie) and Lesser Poland (Lubelskie).

[Abriekman]

I scored more than 1% on 23andme and my Polish family is from Greater Poland (Poznań, Łęczyca, Sieradzkie) and Lesser Poland (Lubelskie).

Lesser Poland is not Greater Poland, so it is not very suprising

[Skjaldemjøden]

23andme has this map for the US
https://permalinks.23andme.com/you/img/population_pages/ashkenazi/ashkenazi_edu6_2x.png

[Peterski]

No, most of Poles usually score 0.0% Ashkenazi admixture.

What sample size do you have?

These Poles who do score some AJ, usually have it in "Ancestry Timeline" as late 1700s.

Their Jewish ancestor(s) supposedly lived in late 1700s and mixed with Poles back then.

[Peterski]

23andme has this map for the US
https://permalinks.23andme.com/you/img/population_pages/ashkenazi/ashkenazi_edu6_2x.png

Very similar to my map (I made it for Wikipedia) of Jewish population in the US:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Jewish_population_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png/772px-Jewish_population_in_the_USA_and_Canada.png

^^^ Map based on 2016 data - https://www.springer.com/series/11193

[Abriekman]

What sample size do you have?

These Poles who do score some AJ, usually have it in "Ancestry Timeline" as late 1700s.

Their Jewish ancestor(s) supposedly lived in late 1700s and mixed with Poles back then.

It is better to look at their results at 90% confidence. Historically marriages with Ashkenazim and Poles were extremly rare

[Peterski]

It is better to look at their results at 90% confidence. Historically marriages with Ashkenazim and Poles were extremly rare

In the 1700s a large number of Jews converted to Catholicism - so it makes sense if admixture happened at that time.

This is example of Ancestry Timeline of a Pole who scores AJ admixture (not me, but a Polish guy from another forum):

https://i.imgur.com/EpU7jj4.png

^^^
1740+ for Jewish admixture makes sense, considering it is when mass conversions of Jews to Christianity took place:

http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Conversion

"Mass conversions to Christianity occurred at two intervals: to Eastern Orthodoxy during the Khmel’nyts’kyi uprising (1648–1649; gzeyres takh vetat), and to Catholicism by followers of Jakub Frank in the second half of the eighteenth century."

http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Frankism

"A Jewish religious movement centered on the leadership of Ya‘akov (Jakub) ben Yehudah Leib Frank (1726?–1791). The term Frankism was coined in early nineteenth-century Warsaw and was initially a slur directed at the descendants of Frank’s followers who converted to Roman Catholicism and attempted to conceal their background."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism

"Frankism was a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 50,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland"

[Ion Basescul]

What sample size do you have?

These Poles who do score some AJ, usually have it in "Ancestry Timeline" as late 1700s.

Their Jewish ancestor(s) supposedly lived in late 1700s and mixed with Poles back then.

I have some matches from Poland (not all of them share their ancestry reports), and some score, while others don't.

[Peterski]

I have some matches from Poland (not all of them share their ancestry reports), and some score, while others don't.

And what about Ancestry Timeline?

I remember that two Polish users on another forum who shared their timelines had AJ admixture dated to 1760+ and 1740+ respectively.

[Abriekman]

And what about Ancestry Timeline?

I remember that two Polish users on another forum who shared their timelines had AJ admixture dated to 1760+ and 1740+ respectively.

Timeline is related to admixture and not always accurate. Looking at timeline I should have Italian, Spanish, Ashkenazi Jewish and Western Asian ancestor at the same time 200 years ago, but it is not true since it is really Sephardic and ancestor lived 120 years ago

[Ion Basescul]

And what about Ancestry Timeline?

I remember that two Polish users on another forum who shared their timelines had AJ admixture dated to 1760+ and 1740+ respectively.

Timelines in general don't vary, they are tied to the admixture percentages. That is the higher the component, the closer it will appear on the timeline.

[Herr Galke]

Such thing exist? isnt Jewish a religion. How can you have religious admixtures - world gone crazy

Is there Christian admixtures anywhere?

Some Ultra orthodox rabbis in Israel claim that "Jewish" is a sub ethnicity of semetic. Also Several times throughout Torah and bible(Old testament) Jews are referred to as "chosen race". Also is believed that "jewishness" is passed on through the maternal line.

[Rethel]

Also is believed that "jewishness" is passed on through the maternal line.

Judaism, a religion, not ethnicity.
And not line, but mother. There is no line, exept the woman which give birth.
She can be even a convert, and can have no jewish mother herself.

[Narration]

There once was a calculator on gedmatch site which estimates Jewish admixture but I am not sure if it still exists or not.

[Hamilcar]

How can you define "jewish" admixture ?

[rothaer]

Timelines in general don't vary, they are tied to the admixture percentages. That is the higher the component, the closer it will appear on the timeline.

Exactly.

[Ion Basescul]

Here's a couple of Polish people with 4gp from Poland from my relatives (all results are on the right).
Hopefully that's useful for you guys.

With Jewish admixture

3/4 Kalisz County, 1/4 Wrocław County
https://i.ibb.co/Qc8XLZ3/image.png

Powiat żarski, lubuskie, Powiat zawierciański, śląskie, Powiat mielecki, Województwo podkarpackie, Powiat myślenicki, małopolskie
https://i.ibb.co/30nx7Z8/image.png

4/4 Gorlice County
https://i.ibb.co/g302Y6q/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/HBdFHjX/image.png

2/4 Łańcut County, 2/4 Rzeszów County
https://i.ibb.co/WFPtCKH/image.png

2/4 Katowice, 1/4 Opolski, 1/4 Tarnowski
https://i.ibb.co/G29pF20/image.png

4/4 Bieszczady County
https://i.ibb.co/gtPGwCj/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/rMnGj9D/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/H4TD7ZG/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/f9Pq6Sz/image.png

2/4 Lublin County, 1/4 Jarosław County, 1/4 Silesian Voivodeship
https://i.ibb.co/vHwxDdW/image.png


Without

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/XCpXhdg/image.png

2/4 Miechów County, 1/4 Krakowski, 1/4 Wieliczka County
https://i.ibb.co/svbsF36/image.png

2/4 Poznań County, 2/4 Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/DY1HhR6/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/FxWKJQj/image.png

[rothaer]

In the 1700s a large number of Jews converted to Catholicism - so it makes sense if admixture happened at that time.

This is example of Ancestry Timeline of a Pole who scores AJ admixture (not me, but a Polish guy from another forum):

https://i.imgur.com/EpU7jj4.png

^^^
1740+ for Jewish admixture makes sense, considering it is when mass conversions of Jews to Christianity took place:

http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Conversion

"Mass conversions to Christianity occurred at two intervals: to Eastern Orthodoxy during the Khmel’nyts’kyi uprising (1648–1649; gzeyres takh vetat), and to Catholicism by followers of Jakub Frank in the second half of the eighteenth century."

http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/article.aspx/Frankism

"A Jewish religious movement centered on the leadership of Ya‘akov (Jakub) ben Yehudah Leib Frank (1726?–1791). The term Frankism was coined in early nineteenth-century Warsaw and was initially a slur directed at the descendants of Frank’s followers who converted to Roman Catholicism and attempted to conceal their background."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankism

"Frankism was a Jewish religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries,[1] centered on the leadership of the Jewish Messiah claimant Jacob Frank, who lived from 1726 to 1791. At its height it claimed perhaps 500,000 followers, primarily Jews living in Poland"

That conversion to eastern orthodox christianity does hardly touch Poles. So it´s basically that Frankist event left. I fully agree to that event as an explanation.

[rothaer]

Here's a couple of Polish people with 4gp from Poland from my relatives (all results are on the right).
Hopefully that's useful for you guys.

With Jewish admixture

3/4 Kalisz County, 1/4 Wrocław County
https://i.ibb.co/Qc8XLZ3/image.png

Powiat żarski, lubuskie, Powiat zawierciański, śląskie, Powiat mielecki, Województwo podkarpackie, Powiat myślenicki, małopolskie
https://i.ibb.co/30nx7Z8/image.png

4/4 Gorlice County
https://i.ibb.co/g302Y6q/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/HBdFHjX/image.png

2/4 Łańcut County, 2/4 Rzeszów County
https://i.ibb.co/WFPtCKH/image.png

2/4 Katowice, 1/4 Opolski, 1/4 Tarnowski
https://i.ibb.co/G29pF20/image.png

4/4 Bieszczady County
https://i.ibb.co/gtPGwCj/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/rMnGj9D/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/H4TD7ZG/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/f9Pq6Sz/image.png

2/4 Lublin County, 1/4 Jarosław County, 1/4 Silesian Voivodeship
https://i.ibb.co/vHwxDdW/image.png


Without

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/XCpXhdg/image.png

2/4 Miechów County, 1/4 Krakowski, 1/4 Wieliczka County
https://i.ibb.co/svbsF36/image.png

2/4 Poznań County, 2/4 Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/DY1HhR6/image.png

Detailed location unspecified
https://i.ibb.co/FxWKJQj/image.png


Thanks. That´s about what I got as impression.

My approach was this: Maternally I´ve 1/16 Polish ancestry from Lodz rural area. (My mother shows 0.0% AJ at 23andMe.) If I look for matches of her with 4gp born in Poland, there is a number of majority AJ proportion individuals and a bigger number of "normal" Polish individuals. If one leaves majority AJ proportion individuals beside, the 4gp Poles in the match list show about the results you displayed. There is a notable proportion with 0.0% AJ and a slight majority (over 50%) with a small AJ contribution. I guess I got most matches from Lodz area and I don´t know whether the results are representative. So I was curious about that question.

[Polak]

Lesser Poland is not Greater Poland, so it is not very suprising

Only my great grandmother is from Lesser Poland, and I have documents to that prove that her grandfather was ethnically Ashkenazi, and it also perfectly matches up with when my Jewish ancestor lived. Thank you very much, I think I know my own family history better, its not admixture nor noise, it even stays at 90% confidence.

[Peterski]

Timelines in general don't vary, they are tied to the admixture percentages. That is the higher the component, the closer it will appear on the timeline.

Oh, so it is bullshit basically? I thought that they really have some efficient method of estimating admixture time.

And it turns out it is just calculated based on what % of a specific type of ancestry / admixture you have in total?

[Ion Basescul]

Oh, so it is bullshit basically? I thought that they really have some efficient method of estimating admixture time.

And it turns out it is just calculated based on what % of a specific type of ancestry / admixture you have in total?

Yeah, they basically look at the number and size of segments that belong to a particular component and estimate based on that.
https://blog.23andme.com/23andme-and-you/23andmes-new-ancestry-timeline/

[Chris596]

Of course. Myheritage for example:


Ashkenazi Jewish ethnicity - top countries

Israel 51.6%
Hungary 18.3%
Argentina 14.5%
Russia 14.2%
South Africa 11.9%
Ecuador 11.7%
Panama 11.5%
Monaco 11.2%
Mexico 10.7%
Colombia 10.7%
Chile 10.6%
Romania 10.3%
Brazil 10.3%
Liechtenstein 9.9%
Guatemala 9.9%
Ukraine 9.8%
Bulgaria 9.1%
Venezuela 8.7%
Dominican Republic 8.6%
Portugal 8.5%
Puerto Rico 8.2%
Georgia 8%
Luxembourg 7.5%
Peru 7.4%
Austria 7.3%
Albania 7.3%
France 7.2%
Belarus 7.2%
USA 7.1%
Slovakia 7.1%
Spain 7.1%
Switzerland 7.1%
Cyprus 6.9%
Moldova 6.6%
Thailand 6.4%
Belgium 6.3%
Latvia 6.2%
Canada 6.1%
Netherlands 5.9%
Malta 5.7%
Czech Republic 5.6%
Costa Rica 5.6%
Croatia 5.5%
Australia 5.5%
Hong Kong 5.3%
Germany 5.1%
Uruguay 5%
Japan 5%
Great Britain 5%
Poland 4.8%
Jamaica 4.8%
Azerbaijan 4.8%
Singapore 4.6%
Kazakhstan 4.5%
Bermuda 4.5%
Philippines 4.4%
Serbia 4.3%
Barbados 4.3%
Greece 4.2%
Estonia 4.2%
Italy 3.9%
Macau 3.7%
Mauritius 3.6%
Lithuania 3.5%
Trinidad and Tobago 3%
South Korea 2.9%
Denmark 2.9%
New Zealand 2.8%
Sweden 2.5%
India 2.5%
Slovenia 2.2%
Iceland 2%
Ireland 2%
Greenland 1.9%
Bahamas 1.8%
North Macedonia 1.6%
China 1.3%
Norway 1.2%

Obviously Israel is at the top. After that comes Hungary, which is not surprising again, personally I also have some distant Jewish ancestry. Then comes Russia, and generally Latin American and other Eastern European countries.

[Abriekman]

Only my great grandmother is from Lesser Poland, and I have documents to that prove that her grandfather was ethnically Ashkenazi, and it also perfectly matches up with when my Jewish ancestor lived. Thank you very much, I think I know my own family history better, its not admixture nor noise, it even stays at 90% confidence.

OMG, did i say anything about noise or admix? I am saying It is not surprising, that you have ancestors from Lesser Poland

[Polak]

OMG, did i say anything about noise or admix? I am saying It is not surprising, that you have ancestors from Lesser Poland

OMG calm down. What are you? 12?

[Abriekman]

OMG calm down. What are you? 12?

Instead of normal answer you ask about my age. After seeing your signature better would be asking you about the same thing

[Polak]

Instead of normal answer you ask about my age. After seeing your signature better would be asking you about the same thing

"no u". Yeah, it's obvious that you're really young. It wasn't an attack, just an inquisition.

[Abriekman]

Oh, If you are 'oldman' and reading this forum i feel sorry for you

[Polak]

Oh, If you are 'oldman' and reading this forum i feel sorry for you

Nah, I browse it out of boredom and don't really take it seriously. Most people here are either racists, chauvinists, incels or trolls.

[Abriekman]

Nah, I browse it out of boredom and don't really take it seriously. Most people here are either racists, chauvinists, incels or trolls.

sorry if i injured you

[Polak]

sorry if i injured you

Not at all.