"Islamist Groups Seek ‘Parallel Society’ in Canada"

[Smaland]

http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/3827174.bin?size=620x465


'Even if the use of violence is not outwardly expressed, the creation of isolated communities can spawn groups that are exclusivist and potentially open to messages in which violence is advocated,' it (a declassified National Intelligence Assessment) says. 'At a minimum, the existence of such mini-societies undermines resilience and the fostering of a cohesive Canadian nation.'

Full story (http://www.nationalpost.com/scripts/Islamist+groups+seek+parallel+society+Canada+repor t/3827175/story.html#ixzz15MWaCfHR)

[Wölfin]

Christ can't they move to Dubai or something?

[Sahson]

I'm sorry to hear this Canada. but you know what time it is?

"Vive Le Québéc Libre" - Charles de Gaulle.

[Psychonaut]

If there are large numbers of immigrants present in a country, isn't this kind of salad bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_bowl_%28cultural_idea%29) model far preferable to the melting pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot)?

[Sol Invictus]

If there are large numbers of immigrants present in a country, isn't this kind of salad bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_bowl_%28cultural_idea%29) model far preferable to the melting pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot)?

Agreed!

It's either that or mass deportations, which won't happen any time soon.

[Cato]

"But activist Tarek Fatah said there is a difference. “You can talk about the Mennonites but the Mennonites’ aim in life is not to destroy Western civilization, it is seclusion.”"

One big difference, raghead: the Mennonites are Christian.

[Guapo]

I'm sorry to hear this Canada. but you know what time it is?

"Vive Le Québéc Libre" - Charles de Gaulle.

This islamist nonsense wouldn't happen in Québéc

[Aemma]

This islamist nonsense wouldn't happen in Québéc

But it's happening everywhere in Canada, including Québec. :(

[Guapo]

But it's happening everywhere in Canada, including Québec. :(

It's time we put our foots down.

[Aemma]

If there are large numbers of immigrants present in a country, isn't this kind of salad bowl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salad_bowl_%28cultural_idea%29) model far preferable to the melting pot (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melting_pot)?

Agreed. The funny thing is however that there is some article here that somebody or other posted (perhaps it was even me) last year and a half (or so) that Canada was starting to become more and more like the USA in terms of itself becoming a melting pot. :(

[Smaland]

But it's happening everywhere in Canada, including Québec. :(

As you know, you're not alone. Not only do we have to contend with the cordoba mosque at Ground Zero, there are also a lot of Muslims in Michigan. :(

[Sol Invictus]

But it's happening everywhere in Canada, including Québec. :(

True but in Hérouxville where I was born they made a point of letting Muslims and any other religious extremists know that this is not the middle east, so leave you customs at the door (http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=bca2b544-518e-4163-a29d-4fe8c23d1910), layed out and enforced by a, municipal council-approved code of standards. I'm proud to say Québécois have been spearheading the battle against one-worldism in Canada at the grass roots, local level through measures like these.

[Magister Eckhart]

I for one prefer a policy of complete re-immigration à la (pun!) Enoch Powell in these cases, but truly it's not all that realistic.

Another good solution is to take a piece of land with little economic, social, or cultural value and just make them all move there, and thereafter filter all new arrivals from the Mohammedan world into that Free State. A "Mohammedan Reservation", if I may. It works for the American Indians - they have a good cigarette and casino business running; imagine if we had kept Oklahoma as "Indian territory".

I've advocated a similar policy in the past for dealing with the American Negro, transplanting them en masse to Nevada or something and giving them self-government as a client state; I never fully developed the idea, because in all honesty repatriation to Africa just makes more sense.

[Guapo]

I'm proud to say Québécois have been spearheading the battle against one-worldism in Canada at the grass roots, local level through measures like these.

Yes, you won't find huge mosques, like this one in Toronto, in Québéc.

http://www.cis.edu.vn/cis/Portals/7/CN%20Tower.jpg

[Sahson]

I for one prefer a policy of complete re-immigration à la (pun!) Enoch Powell in these cases, but truly it's not all that realistic.

Another good solution is to take a piece of land with little economic, social, or cultural value and just make them all move there, and thereafter filter all new arrivals from the Mohammedan world into that Free State. A "Mohammedan Reservation", if I may. It works for the American Indians - they have a good cigarette and casino business running; imagine if we had kept Oklahoma as "Indian territory".

Just because it works in America does not mean the model would work in Canada, that's like trying to make the nordic model fit, and work for the Chinese.

[Sol Invictus]

Yes, you won't find huge mosques, like this one in Toronto, in Québéc.

http://www.cis.edu.vn/cis/Portals/7/CN%20Tower.jpg

I've always thought of that as an obelisk, or a penis.

[Magister Eckhart]

Just because it works in America does not mean the model would work in Canada, that's like trying to make the nordic model fit, and work for the Chinese.

Canada and America are not so disparate as China and Europe. We're both European!

Dealing with foreigners in similar was might not be such a bad idea.

[Curtis24]

The "parallel society" thing seems the most likely development in most industrial societies. IN some ways, I don't blame the immigrants; their social organization probably leads to more fulfilmment for those not having enough money to attain education or a middle-class social status, which applies to most Islamic/Mexican immigrants. I'm almost certain there will be a parallel cultural society in Southwest America formed by Mexican immigrants; Samuel Huntington("The Clash of Civilizations"), talks about this in one of his books.

[Liffrea]

Canada and the USA with their land and resources are lucky, they have those options on the table (even if they are never going to happen) European states do not, the UK is an 800 mile long island with limited land and resources, the solutions are repatriation, integration or extermination. Repatriation is never likely to happen (the UK track record on deporting hard core Islamists is a joke, mass expulsion of non-whites just isn’t going to happen), which leaves the last two both unpalatable.

[Curtis24]

That's a good point. America, at least, can culturally segregate based on geographic location.