Dodecad Ancestry Project

[Ibericus]

well, New European scores (Med + West euro + East euro) ranking :


Lithuanian_D 99.1
Polish_D 95.8
Norwegian_D 92.8
Swedish_D 92.7
German_D 91.7
British_Isles_D 91.5
French_D 91.3
Irish_D 91.1
Finnish_D 91
British_D 90.9
Spanish_D 90.3
Dutch_D 89.9
Russian_D 89.7
Mixed_Germanic_D 88.2
Portuguese_D 84.9
N_Italian_D 83.9
C_Italian_D 69.4
Greek_D 68.5
Sicilian_D 63.5
S_Italian_Sicilian_D 62.5
S_Italian_D 61.9
Ashkenazi_D 57.1


Notice huge difference between rank 16 and 17.

[alzo zero]

C_Italian are Central Italians. There are also two North Italian samples, the one from Bergamo (Behar et al.) and the one from north-italian members.
Thanks but the real question was actually meant to be what Dienekes considers to be "Central Italian" and "Northern Italian" respectively.

[Pallantides]

Norwegian/Swedish averages

East European 9.6/13
West European 68.3/66.1
Mediterranean 14.9/13.6
Neo African 0/0
West Asian 4/4.6
South Asian 0.2/0.1%
Northeast Asian 0.7/0.4
Southeast Asian 0.1/0.1
East African 0/0
Southwest Asian 2/2
Northwest African 0.1/0.1
Palaeo African 0/0



I hope he posts the indivdiual results soon, though I'm fairly certain my Southwest Asian score is 0%.

[Polako]

well, New European scores (Med + West euro + East euro) ranking :


Lithuanian_D 99.1
Polish_D 95.8
Norwegian_D 92.8
Swedish_D 92.7
German_D 91.7
British_Isles_D 91.5
French_D 91.3
Irish_D 91.1
Finnish_D 91
British_D 90.9
Spanish_D 90.3
Dutch_D 89.9
Russian_D 89.7
Mixed_Germanic_D 88.2
Portuguese_D 84.9
N_Italian_D 83.9
C_Italian_D 69.4
Greek_D 68.5
Sicilian_D 63.5
S_Italian_Sicilian_D 62.5
S_Italian_D 61.9
Ashkenazi_D 57.1


Notice huge difference between rank 16 and 17.

Meh....I think there's something wrong with that Lithuanian sample. It might come from a small town or something.

Poles would top the list in an analysis with a more comprehensive sampling IMHO.

[Transhumanist]

Area charts of the Dodecad v3 K=12 reduced to five components, for all populations with at least 5% SW Asian, and sorted in descending order according to the five components:

1.Total African (Neo + Palaeo + Northwest + East)
2.Total European (East + West + Mediterranean)
3.West Asian + Southwest Asian
4.South Asian
5.Total East Asian (Northeast + Southeast)


POPID AFRI EURO WSWA SASI EASI
Armen 0 32 66 2 0
AsJew 4 57 37 0 2
Assyri 0 27 70 2 0
Baloc 3 21 41 34 2
Bedou 15 23 61 1 0
Brahu 3 20 42 33 1
Citaly 1 69 29 0 0
Druze 4 35 61 1 0
Eafri 73 4 23 0 0
Greek 0 69 31 0 0
Irani 0 25 61 10 4
Makra 7 19 44 30 1
Nafri 44 37 18 1 0
Pales 13 30 55 1 1
Sardi 3 86 11 0 0
Sicily 4 63 31 1 0
Sitaly 3 62 35 0 0
SITSIC 3 63 34 1 0
Turki 1 41 51 2 5
Tusca 1 72 26 0 0

[Ibericus]

Meh....I think there's something wrong with that Lithuanian sample. It might come from a small town or something.

Poles would top the list in an analysis with a more comprehensive sampling IMHO.
Update now, the Basques score 98.5, being in second place beating poles :D

[Pallantides]

Individual V3, K=12 results are coming in now.:thumb001:
http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/06/dodecad-v3-results-are-rolling-in.html


My results(DOD197):

East_European 13.9
West_European 67.9
Mediterranean 12.9
Neo_African 0
West_Asian 4.3
South_Asian 0
Northeast_Asian 1.1
Southeast_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 0 (like I predicted:))
Northwest_African 0
Palaeo_African 0


Norwegian_D averages:

East_European 9.6
West_European 68.3
Mediterranean 14.9
Neo_African 0
West_Asian 4
South_Asian 0.2
Northeast_Asian 0.7
Southeast_Asian 0.1
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 2
Northwest_African 0.1
Palaeo_African 0

[d3cimat3d]

West Asian: 27.9

West European: 25.7

Mediteranean: 21.4

East European: 17.9

South-west Asian: 3.1

North-east Asian: 1.8

South Asian: 1.6 (Gypsy?:cry2)

South-east Asian: 0.2

East African: 0.2

North-west African: 0.2

[Pallantides]

East_European

DOD061 - 7.5
DOD197 - 13.9
DOD279 - 8.7
DOD306 - 8.8
DOD329 - 12.6
DOD340 - 14.8

West_European

DOD061 - 72.9
DOD197 - 67.9
DOD279 - 70
DOD306 - 67
DOD329 - 65.5
DOD340 - 62.9

Mediterranean

DOD061 - 12.1
DOD197 - 12.9
DOD279 - 14.5
DOD306 - 20
DOD329 - 13.2
DOD340 - 12

Neo_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0

West_Asian

DOD061 - 2.8
DOD197 - 4.3
DOD279 - 3.5
DOD306 - 3
DOD329 - 6.7
DOD340 - 5.8

South_Asian

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0.9
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 1.1

Northeast_Asian

DOD061 - 1.2
DOD197 - 1.1
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 1.5

Southeast_Asian

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0.1
DOD306 - 0.3
DOD329 - 0.8
DOD340 - 0

East_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0

Southwest_Asian

DOD061 - 3.5
DOD197 - 0
DOD 279 - 1.4
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 1.2
DOD340 - 1.8

Northwest_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0.7
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0

Palaeo_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0


DOD061 - East Norwegian
DOD197 - Me
DOD279 - West Norwegian
DOD306 - West Norwegian
DOD329 - 3/4 Norwegian, 1/4 Swedish + Forest Finn
DOD340 - Norwegian and some Swedish(?)

*These are not all the Norwegians in the project, also Olavsson's results are not in yet.

[Olavsson]

*These are not all the Norwegians in the project, also Olavsson's results are not in yet.

That's not fair! I was sure my results were going to be up there today...:cry

:p

[Pallantides]

Your numbers are up now.




Seems most the East Norwegians in the project have atleast 1% Northeast_Asian, while it's absent in the West Norwegians, I guess this could come from Forest Finns or ancient Saami (http://www.oppland.no/no/Fag-og-tjenester/Kulturarv/Aktuelt-kulturvern/Samer-i-Valdres-for-1000-ar-siden---gammetufter-funnet/)?




Also notice how the Norwegians who don't score some Northeast Asian_got a tiny bit of Southeast_Asian?:confused:

Northeast_Asian

DOD061 - 1.2
DOD197 - 1.1
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 1.5
DOD620 - 1.7

Southeast_Asian

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0.1
DOD306 - 0.3
DOD329 - 0.8
DOD340 - 0
DOD620 - 0

[Sikeliot]

Who are the Southeast Asians used as a reference population for this?

[Loki]

Me:

44.8 West_European
26.6 Mediterranean
12.2 East_European
10.8 West_Asian
1.6 Southwest_Asian
1.5 Southeast_Asian
1.4 Neo_African
0.9 Palaeo_African
0.1 East_African
0.1 Northwest_African
0 South_Asian
0 Northeast_Asian

[Loki]

Who are the Southeast Asians used as a reference population for this?

Highest Southeast Asians:


Population Southeast_Asian
Dai 91.8
Lahu 91.7
CHS 89.9
CHD 88.2
Miaozu 88.2
CHB 85.5
She 85.4
Tujia 85.4
MAS 84
Han 83.9
JPT 82.8
Cambodians 80.9
Yizu 80.8
Naxi 80.2
Chinese_D 80.1
Japanese 75.6
Korean_D 74.4
Japanese_D 70.8

[Olavsson]

Alright folks. Here's my results for DOD620 (Norwegian average in red!)

67.2% West European (68.3%)
10.4 East European (9.6%)
12.6% Mediterranean (14.9%)
8% West Asian (4%)
1.7% Northeast Asian (0.7%)
0% South Asian (0.2%)
0% Southeast Asian (0.1%)
0% Southwest Asian (hah!) (2%)
0% East African (0%)
0% Neo African (0%)
0% Northwest African (0.1%)
0% Palaeo African (0%)

[Sikeliot]

Highest Southeast Asians:


Population Southeast_Asian
Dai 91.8
Lahu 91.7
CHS 89.9
CHD 88.2
Miaozu 88.2
CHB 85.5
She 85.4
Tujia 85.4
MAS 84
Han 83.9
JPT 82.8
Cambodians 80.9
Yizu 80.8
Naxi 80.2
Chinese_D 80.1
Japanese 75.6
Korean_D 74.4
Japanese_D 70.8


Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese are mostly Southeast Asian?? This surprises me.

[Pallantides]

Who are the Southeast Asians used as a reference population for this?

Populations with the highest Southeast_Asian scores are the Dai(91.8) and Lauh(91.7)

http://www.chinatoday.com/people/china_minority/china_ethnic_dai_family.jpg
http://www.chinatoday.com/people/china_minority/china_ethnic_lahu_family.jpg

[Loki]

Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese are mostly Southeast Asian?? This surprises me.


Population Japanese_D Korean_D Chinese_D
Source Dodecad Dodecad Dodecad
N 5 5 9
East_European 0.9 0.6 0.8
West_European 0 0 0
Mediterranean 0 0 0
Neo_African 0 0 0
West_Asian 0 0 0
South_Asian 1.5 0 0.5
Northeast_Asian 26.7 24.9 18.5
Southeast_Asian 70.8 74.4 80.1
East_African 0 0 0
Southwest_Asian 0 0 0
Northwest_African 0 0 0
Palaeo_African 0 0 0

[Sikeliot]

Well I guess the question is what constitutes "Northeast Asian" if Japanese for instance are not mostly of said origin?

[Loki]

Well I guess the question is what constitutes "Northeast Asian" if Japanese for instance are not mostly of said origin?

Highest:


Population Northeast_Asian
Yakut 61.3
Dolgan 53.2
Selkup 53.2
Yukagir 52
Oroqen 48.6
Buryat 48.4
Tuva 46.7
Hezhen 39.2
Mongol 38.4
Altai 38.4
Daur 37.2
Mongola 32.5
Xibo 28.7
Japanese_D 26.7
Korean_D 24.9
Japanese 24.2

[Sikeliot]

Ohh okay that makes sense. :) Thank you.

[Pallantides]

Yakut are the most Northeast Asian.


* damn to late again, my internet speed is slow today.

[Agrippa]

East_European

DOD061 - 7.5
DOD197 - 13.9
DOD279 - 8.7
DOD306 - 8.8
DOD329 - 12.6
DOD340 - 14.8

West_European

DOD061 - 72.9
DOD197 - 67.9
DOD279 - 70
DOD306 - 67
DOD329 - 65.5
DOD340 - 62.9

Mediterranean

DOD061 - 12.1
DOD197 - 12.9
DOD279 - 14.5
DOD306 - 20
DOD329 - 13.2
DOD340 - 12

Neo_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0

West_Asian

DOD061 - 2.8
DOD197 - 4.3
DOD279 - 3.5
DOD306 - 3
DOD329 - 6.7
DOD340 - 5.8

South_Asian

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0.9
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 1.1

Northeast_Asian

DOD061 - 1.2
DOD197 - 1.1
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 1.5

Southeast_Asian

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0.1
DOD306 - 0.3
DOD329 - 0.8
DOD340 - 0

East_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0

Southwest_Asian

DOD061 - 3.5
DOD197 - 0
DOD 279 - 1.4
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 1.2
DOD340 - 1.8

Northwest_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0.7
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0

Palaeo_African

DOD061 - 0
DOD197 - 0
DOD279 - 0
DOD306 - 0
DOD329 - 0
DOD340 - 0


DOD061 - East Norwegian
DOD197 - Me
DOD279 - West Norwegian
DOD306 - West Norwegian
DOD329 - 3/4 Norwegian, 1/4 Swedish + Forest Finn
DOD340 - Norwegian and some Swedish(?)

*These are not all the Norwegians in the project, also Olavsson's results are not in yet.

It is interesting, especially in the Norwegian sample, how West Asian and South West Asian are often not related to each other at all. Whether this is how it is detected-measured, or how the components are distributed because of other factors, I don't know, but it is interesting.

061 has 3,5 SWA, which is pretty much for a Northern European, but his WA is very low with 2,8 (very strange proportion for the North), whereas Olavsson with the highest WA (8) has zero SWA!

Probably recombination by chance if it is not the result of the method itself.

If these component are low and not evenly distributed in a population, individual results might just reflect those recombinations by chance quite often.

[Graham]

My scores, DOD345

71.5 Western European
18.1 Mediterranean
06.2 West Asian
04.0 Southwest Asian
00.1 Northwest Africa

[poiuytrewq0987]

Mine is finally up after a bit of waiting.

Mediterranean: 35.8% (Hellenic influence)
East European: 30.1% (Slavic influence)
West European: 18.2% (Celtic?)
West Asian: 12.4% (Sarmatian and/or Scythian influence?)
Southwest Asian: 1.9% (Persian influence?)
Northeast Asian: 1.6% (Turkic influence?)
Neo African: 0.1% (noise?)
South Asian: 0%
Northwest African: 0%
Palaeoafrican: 0%
Southeast Asian: 0%
East African: 0%

[poiuytrewq0987]

What is Italy's average for West European? Are they more West European than they are Mediterranean or is it the other way around?

[Ibericus]

What is Italy's average for West European? Are they more West European than they are Mediterranean or is it the other way around?
North Italy west/med : 32.8 / 49.6
Central Italy : 20.6 / 44.9
South Italy : 12 / 46.8

[alzo zero]

North Italy west/med : 32.8 / 49.6
Central Italy : 20.6 / 44.9
South Italy : 12 / 46.8
Why have you taken the values from different sources (the HDGP for Northern Italians and Dienekes for C+S Italian)? Don't answer, rethoric question...

Actually, to keep uniformity (all taken from the Dodecad P. :rolleyes:) it should be like this.
North Italy west/med : 33.5 / 44.7
Central Italy : 20.6 / 44.9
South Italy : 12 / 46.8

[Ibericus]

Why have you taken the values from different sources (the HDGP for Northern Italians and Dienekes for C+S Italian)? Don't answer, rethoric question...

Actually, to keep uniformity (all taken from the Dodecad P. :rolleyes:) it should be like this.
North Italy west/med : 33.5 / 44.7
Central Italy : 20.6 / 44.9
South Italy : 12 / 46.8
I chosed the one from HDGP because it has a bigger sample.

[alzo zero]

I chosed the one from HDGP because it has a bigger sample.
Ooooh sure, ok. ;)

[Imperivm]

Mine-

East European= 3.4%
West European= 63.1%
Mediterranean= 25.5%
Neo African= 0%
West Asian= 6.9%
South Asian= 0%
Northeast Asian= 0%
Southeast Asian= 0%
East African= 0%
Southwest Asian= 0%
Northwest African= 0.1%
Palaeo African= 0%

[Pallantides]

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/07/results-up-to-dod764-are-posted.html

Norwegians
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/999/admixturenorwegiand12.png

Swedes
http://img713.imageshack.us/img713/1722/admixtureswedishd12.png

[Transhumanist]

The Assyrian and Armenian Dodecad v3 portraits joined as one. Look to me like the southern and northern varieties of peoples of a very similar stock. The Y-DNA and mtDNA data tells the same story.

[Frederick]

Did someone already post some maps?

Here are my results:

West European: 53% (German average: 53%)
Eastern European: 19% (German average: 17%) Hello Lithuanian Great Great Grandmom!
Mediterranean: 18% (German average: 22%)
West Asian: 5% (German average: 7%)
South West Asian: 5% (German average: 2%)
Others, zero

[Transhumanist]

A few additional maps, from the terrific site ( http://blog.jattdna.org/?p=560 ) of DNA-Forums user, simranjits, for the four most significant (generally) Dodecad v3 components observed in European populations:

East European
http://blog.jattdna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DOD-v3-East-European2-1024x660.jpg

West European
http://blog.jattdna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DOD-v3-West-European2-1024x660.jpg

Mediterranean
http://blog.jattdna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DOD-v3-Med2-1024x660.jpg

West Asian
http://blog.jattdna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DOD-v3-West-Asian1-1024x660.jpg

[poiuytrewq0987]

http://blog.jattdna.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/DOD-v3-East-European2-1024x660.jpg

inb4 karl

[Pallantides]

Dodecad Norwegians
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/4697/dodecadn.png

[Kadu]

A little play of mine...
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/Imagem130.png

[Transhumanist]

I am not sure if a similar calculation has been previously performed. It is the v3 average for nearly all European Dodecad IE populations. I also included reference data populations, where Dodecad populations did not exist. There appears to be decent coverage of the IE European world, but certainly not ideal. I did not include a few populations in an effort to avoid over-representation of any one group of IE Europeans of too similar a principal stock.

Rounded to nearest whole %:
Component IE_D
West_European 38
Mediterranean 29
East_European 18
West_Asian 10
Southwest_Asian 3
Northwest_African 1
South_Asian 0
Northeast_Asian 0
Southeast_Asian 0
East_African 0
Neo_African 0
Palaeo_African 0

Population Source
Irish_D Dodecad
Norwegian_D Dodecad
Swedish_D Dodecad
British_D Dodecad
Dutch_D Dodecad
German_D Dodecad
French_D Dodecad
Spanish_D Dodecad
Portuguese_D Dodecad
Polish_D Dodecad
N_Italian_D Dodecad
Lithuanian_D Dodecad
Russian_D Dodecad
Mixed_Slav_D Dodecad
Belorussian Behar
Romanians_14 Behar
S_Italian_D Dodecad
Slovenian Xing
O_Italian_D Dodecad
Balkans_D Dodecad
C_Italian_D Dodecad
Greek_D Dodecad
Sicilian_D Dodecad
n=284

[Kadu]

rounded to nearest whole %:
Component IE_D
West_European 38
Mediterranean 29
East_European 18
West_Asian 10
Southwest_Asian 3
Northwest_African 1
South_Asian 0
Northeast_Asian 0
Southeast_Asian 0
East_African 0
Neo_African 0
Palaeo_African 0


Is there any population on that list who resembles this average?

[Sikeliot]

Is there any population on that list who resembles this average?


Northern Italians or southern French perhaps? Just a guess.

[Transhumanist]

Is there any population on that list who resembles this average?

What's up, Kadu? It looks like the Slovenes.

Xing et al. Slovenes (N=26):


Slovenia 22 40 24 0 10 1 1 0 0 2 0 0
Average 18 38 29 0 10 0 0 0 0 3 1 0

East_European West_European Mediterranean Neo_African West_Asian South_Asian Northeast_Asian Southeast_Asian East_African Southwest_Asian Northwest_African Palaeo_African

[Rochefaton]

I've gotten a lot of requests for a RMSD calculator for the latest run of the Dodecad Project, so here it is (http://www.mediafire.com/?81q44l5ntlrg5b8). It is not as aesthetically pleasing as the spreadsheets I made for the Eurogenes Project, but it gets the job done. I actually just used Deinekes' spreadsheet as the template, since it made the process much easier.

Anyways, you wlll need to use OpenOffice to utilize this spreadsheet. Once opened, scroll to the right and place your values in cells R2 through AC2. After that, you will find your numerical RMSD from each population in cells through AS3 through AS146. There is a chart included, but it is HUGE and I didn't feel like piecing screenshots together to attach one to this post.

[Agrippa]

By far the best tool of that kind so far.

Many thanks for that!

I tested it with the data of some people which revealed their ancestry and it works perfectly, even the slightest differences by distance make sense in the results in most of the cases.

[Pallantides]

My 10 closest populations:

Swedish_D 0.063
Norwegian_D 0.187
Irish 1.447
B_Isles_ 1.485
British 1.673
Kent 1.705
Dutch 1.764
Cornwall 1.830
Orkney_1KG 1.947
Orcadian 2.062

[Loki]

Chalybus from ABF has kindly run my closest matches:

DOD442

0,71 CEU
0,89 German
0,99 Argyll_1KG
1,07 Orcadian
1,14 Orkney_1KG
1,34 French
1,38 French
1,91 Hungarians
2,11 MixedGermanic
2,52 Dutch
3,19 Kent
3,41 TSI
3,53 N_Italian
3,80 Portuguese
3,84 British
3,85 B_Isles_
4,02 Cornwall
4,40 Spaniards
4,55 F.Basque
4,63 Swedish_D
4,66 IBS
4,69 Balkans
4,74 Spanish_D
4,90 Romanians
4,98 Irish
5,19 Norwegian
5,21 NorthItalian
5,40 O_Italian
6,38 FIN
6,51 Tuscan
7,04 AshkenaziJ
7,78 Ashkenazi
7,94 C_Italian
8,81 Sardinian
8,98 Polish_D
9,18 MixedSlav
10,02 Finnish
10,58 Greek
10,85 S_ItalySicilian
11,03 MoroccoJew
11,74 Sicilian_D
12,33 Russian_D
12,87 S_Italian_D
14,35 S_Jews
14,43 Russian
16,47 B.Russssian
16,95 Turkish_D
17,24 Chuvashs
17,79 Uzbekistan_Jews
18,12 Adygei
18,83 Uzbeks
19,04 Kurd
19,73 Lithuanians
19,87 Turks
20,16 G_Jews
20,28 NorthAfrican
20,29 Palestinian
20,70 Lebanese
21,08 Cypriots
21,31 Azer_Jews
21,55 Hazara
21,88 Lithuanian_D
22,07 Jordanians
22,12 Pathan
22,12 Druze
22,13 IranJews
22,29 Syrians
22,51 Yemenese
22,53 Samaritians
23,01 Uygur
23,17 IraqJews
23,37 Iranians
23,39 Egyptans
23,52 Iranian
23,86 Makrani
24,11 Balochi
24,43 Burusho
24,51 Brahui
25,88 B_M_Jews
26,32 Bedouin
26,76 Moroccans
27,40 Armenian
27,76 Assyrian
28,12 Lezgins
29,23 Armenian16
29,50 Yukagir
29,91 Selkup
30,38 Altai
31,11 Kalash
32,41 ASW
32,76 CochinJews
36,56 Mongol
37,02 Dolgan
38,40 Georgians
39,11 Indian
40,33 Tuva
43,91 MKK
44,36 INS
44,68 Buryat
44,69 E.African
44,93 Ethiopians
45,48 EthiopJews
46,97 GIH
47,02 LWK
48,96 Yakut
49,89 Yemen_Jews
50,47 Saudis
50,98 Mongola
52,10 Xibo
52,80 Oroqen
53,06 Daur
54,46 Hezhen
54,70 Evenk
55,29 Tu
57,70 YRI
57,95 Yoruba
58,23 Mozabite
58,44 Mandenka
58,90 Japanese_D
60,69 B_Pygmies
61,84 Korean
62,90 Japanese
64,54 Nkannadi
64,63 Cambodians
65,68 Naxi
65,88 Chinese
66,34 Yizu
68,12 MAS
68,66 JPT
69,43 Han
70,86 Tujia
70,86 She
71,12 CHB
72,36 Sindhi
73,69 Miaozu
73,79 CHD
75,10 Nganassan
75,67 CHS
77,30 Lahu
77,46 Dai
79,08 San
83,55 Chukchi
86,61 Mpygmies
87,82 Koryak_15

[Graham]

0.18 Irish
0.46 Cornwall
0.50 Britsh Isles
0.51 British
0.78 kent
0.85 Norwegian
1.10 Dutch
1.37 Mixed germanic
1.56 Swedish
2.80 Orkney

Thank you again! works out well enough, my top ten.

[Pallantides]

DOD197

0,06 Swedish_D
0,18 Norwegian_D
1,44 Irish
1.48 B_Isles_
1,67 British
1,70 MixedGermanic
1,70 Kent
1,76 Dutch
1,94 Orkney_1KG
1,96 Argyll 1KG
2,06 Orcadian
2,31 Germans
2,62 CEU
3,20 FIN
5,57 French
5,74 French
7,50 Finnish
8,93 Hungarians
10,42 F.Basque
13,70 Portuguese
14,09 Spaniards
14,29 Polish_D
14,94 MixedSlav
14,98 Spanish_D
15,23 IBS
16,28 N Italian
16,38 TSI
17,12 Balkans
17,28 Russian_D
18,37 Russian
18,94 Romanians
19,02 NorthItalian
20,85 O Italian
22,80 Tuscan
22,80 Adygei
22,96 Lithuanians
23,02 B.Russian
23,21 AshkenaziJ
23,80 Chuvashs
24,11 Sardinian
24,55 Ashkenazi
25,07 Lithuanian_D
25,79 C_Italian
29,77 MoroccoJew
30,71 Greek
30,81 S ItalySicilian
32,25 Uzbeks
32,59 Scillian_D
34,30 S_Italian_D
35,67 Hazara
35,71 Pathan
36,15 Uygur
36,29 S Jews
37,16 Selkup
37,64 Burusho
37,70 Uzbekistan Jews
37,71 Turkish_D
38,17 Kurd
39,24 Yukagir
39,71 NorthAfrican
40,19 Lezgins
40,58 Balochi
41,01 Turks
41,04 Makrani
41,10 Brahui
41,30 G Jews
41,78 Yemenese
42,05 Palestinian
42,05 Altai
42,96 Iranians
43,04 Iranian
43,07 Azer Jews
43,12 B_M_Jews
43,15 Lebanese
43,81 Syrians
43,89 Egyptans
44,20 Jordanians
44,38 IranJews
44,91 ASW
45,00 Kalash
45,30 Druze
45,81 Samaritians
45,97 IraqJews
46,17 Cypriots
46,37 Moroccans
46,67 Bedouin
47,95 CochinJews
48,96 Dolgan
50,09 Mongol
51,27 Armenian
51,43 Assyrian
52,02 Indian
53,30 Armenian16
53,36 Tuva
58,23 INS
58,66 Buryat
58,74 MKK
60,11 Ethiopians
60,19 E.African
60,37 Georgians
60,37 GIH
60,64 EthiopJews
62,27 Yakut
62,36 LWK
65,64 Mongola
66,76 Xibo
66,94 Oroqen
67,61 Saudis
67,65 Daur
68,07 Evenk
68,77 Yemen Jews
68,99 Hezhen
70,42 Tu
73,27 Mozabite
73,30 YRI
73,56 Yoruba
73,85 Japanese_D
74,04 Mandenka
76,03 B_Pygmies
76,90 Korean
77,99 Japanese
78,79 Nkannadi
80,05 Cambodians
80,96 Naxi
81,15 Chinese
81,64 Yizu
83,65 MAS
84,03 JPT
84,84 Han
86,00 Sindhi
86,31 Tujia
86,31 She
86,59 CHB
87,25 Nganassan
89,24 Miaozu
89,32 CHD
91,29 CHS
92,98 Lahu
93,16 Dai
94,23 San
96,03 Chukchi
100,25 Koryak 15
101,76 Mpygmies

[Imperivm]

My results. Anglo-Saxon?

0.0419444444 Kent
0.0759722222 Dutch
0.1077083333 British
0.1252083333 B_Isles_
0.1319444444 Cornwall
0.24875 MixedGermanic
0.3941666667 Irish
0.7247916667 Orkney_1KG
0.7572916667 Orcadian
0.8971527778 Argyll_1KG
1.0177777778 CEU
1.3249305556 Norwegian
1.3572916667 French
1.5732638889 French
1.7516666667 Swedish_D
2.1145138889 German
3.9127083333 F.Basque
6.5538194444 Spaniards

[Pallantides]

I forgot about Cornwall, no matter I'll include it now that I'm compiling the top ten matches for all the Norwegian participants.

[Pallantides]

10 Norwegian participants and their top 10:


DOD061

0,25 Norwegian_D
0,58 Swedish_D
0,98 Irish
1,36 B_Isles
1,49 British
1,57 Cornwall
1,78 Kent
2,06 Dutch
2,22 MixedGermanic
3,21 Orkney_1KG


DOD164

0,13 Norwegian
0,30 Swedish_D
0,89 Irish
1,30 British
1,37 Cornwall
1,48 Kent
1,64 B_Isles_
1,67 Dutch
1,69 MixedGermanic
2,59 Orkney_1KG


DOD197(Me)

0,06 Swedish_D
0,18 Norwegian
1,44 Irish
1.48 B_Isles_
1,67 British
1,70 MixedGermanic
1,70 Kent
1,76 Dutch
1,83 Cornwall
1,94 Orkney_1KG


DOD253

0,22 Norwegian
0,66 Swedish_D
0,33 Irish
0,61 B_Isles_
0,69 British
0,72 Cornwall
0,92 Kent
1,17 Dutch
1,36 MixedGermanic
2,40 Orkney_1KG

DOD279(West Norwegian)

0,03 Norwegian
0,25 Swedish_D
0,66 Irish
0,83 B_Isles_
0,94 British
1,05 Cornwall
1,12 Kent
1,31 Dutch
1,42 MixedGermanic
2,09 Orkney_1KG


DOD306(West Norwegian)

0,23 Norwegian
0,36 B_Isles_
0,44 Irish
0,44 British
0,46 Swedish_D
0,48 Kent
0,55 Cornwall
0,57 Dutch
1,05 Orkney_1KG
1,13 Orcadian


DOD379

0,39 Swedish_D
0,47 Norwegian
0,52 Orkney_1KG
0,58 Orcadian
0,67 Dutch
0,71 MixedGermanic
0,77 Kent
0,78 B_Isles_
0,88 British
0,93 German


DOD620(Olavsson)

0,18 Swedish_D
0,19 Norwegian
0,98 Irish
1,06 B_Isles
1,18 MixedGermanic
1,21 British
1,24 Kent
1,29 Cornwall
1,32 Dutch
1,78 Argyll 1KG


DOD696(Norwegian/Swedish)

0,13 Swedish_D
0,31 Norwegian
1,60 B_Isles_
1,63 Irish
1,68 MixedGermanic
1,73 Dutch
1,78 Kent
1,80 Orkney_1KG
1,83 Argyll 1KG
1,92 Orcadian

DOD703

0,07 Norwegian
0,36 Irish
0,38 Swedish_D
0,49 B_Isles_
0,58 British
0,66 Cornwall
0,73 Kent
0,90 Dutch
1,06 MixedGermanic
1,75 Orkney_1KG

[Olavsson]

DOD620(Olavsson)

0,18 Swedish_D
0,19 Norwegian
0,98 Irish
1,06 B_Isles
1,18 MixedGermanic
1,21 British
1,24 Kent
1,29 Cornwall
1,32 Dutch
1,78 Argyll 1KG

I'm a Swede! :D

[Pallantides]

So am I it seems:D

[Loki]

The Dodecad Oracle V1 (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/07/dodecad-oracle-v1.html)

Here are my closest populations:

[1,] "CEU" "10.1005"
[2,] "N._European" "10.9398"
[3,] "German_D" "11.3309"
[4,] "Slovenian" "11.9122"
[5,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.9445"
[6,] "Orcadian" "12.3891"
[7,] "Orkney_1KG" "12.7934"
[8,] "French" "13.9101"
[9,] "French_D" "14.0915"
[10,] "Hungarians" "16.5795"
[11,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "17.4161"
[12,] "Dutch_D" "19.0431"
[13,] "Kent_1KG" "21.4299"
[14,] "Tuscan_H" "22.0259"
[15,] "TSI" "22.1499"
[16,] "Tuscan_X" "22.1504"
[17,] "N_Italian_D" "22.5493"
[18,] "Portuguese_D" "23.4017"
[19,] "British_D" "23.5064"
[20,] "British_Isles_D" "23.5323"
[21,] "Cornwall_1KG" "24.0699"
[22,] "Spaniards" "25.1617"
[23,] "French_Basque" "25.5853"
[24,] "Swedish_D" "25.8232"
[25,] "IBS" "25.9021"
[26,] "Balkans_D" "25.9933"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "26.1377"
[28,] "Romanians_14" "26.5761"
[29,] "Irish_D" "26.7802"
[30,] "Norwegian_D" "27.3417"

Closest CEU groups:

[1,] "CEU" "0"
[2,] "Orcadian" "2.4839"
[3,] "Orkney_1KG" "2.924"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "2.9614"
[5,] "N._European" "3.3347"
[6,] "German_D" "6.9361"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "9.3862"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "10.3315"
[9,] "French" "11.1736"
[10,] "French_D" "11.4066"

Closest N._European groups:

[1,] "N._European" "0"
[2,] "Argyll_1KG" "2.7074"
[3,] "CEU" "3.3347"
[4,] "Orkney_1KG" "3.4857"
[5,] "Orcadian" "3.5595"
[6,] "German_D" "6.5215"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "8.1963"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "9.6664"
[9,] "Kent_1KG" "12.0466"
[10,] "French" "13.2631"

[Pallantides]

The Dodecad Oracle V1 (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/07/dodecad-oracle-v1.html)

Here are my closest populations:

[1,] "CEU" "10.1005"
[2,] "N._European" "10.9398"
[3,] "German_D" "11.3309"
[4,] "Slovenian" "11.9122"
[5,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.9445"
[6,] "Orcadian" "12.3891"
[7,] "Orkney_1KG" "12.7934"
[8,] "French" "13.9101"
[9,] "French_D" "14.0915"
[10,] "Hungarians" "16.5795"
[11,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "17.4161"
[12,] "Dutch_D" "19.0431"
[13,] "Kent_1KG" "21.4299"
[14,] "Tuscan_H" "22.0259"
[15,] "TSI" "22.1499"
[16,] "Tuscan_X" "22.1504"
[17,] "N_Italian_D" "22.5493"
[18,] "Portuguese_D" "23.4017"
[19,] "British_D" "23.5064"
[20,] "British_Isles_D" "23.5323"
[21,] "Cornwall_1KG" "24.0699"
[22,] "Spaniards" "25.1617"
[23,] "French_Basque" "25.5853"
[24,] "Swedish_D" "25.8232"
[25,] "IBS" "25.9021"
[26,] "Balkans_D" "25.9933"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "26.1377"
[28,] "Romanians_14" "26.5761"
[29,] "Irish_D" "26.7802"
[30,] "Norwegian_D" "27.3417"

Could you run me?

DOD197:)

[Loki]

Could you run me?

DOD197:)

Here you are:

[1,] "Swedish_D" "3.0249"
[2,] "Norwegian_D" "5.1923"
[3,] "Irish_D" "14.4385"
[4,] "British_Isles_D" "14.6274"
[5,] "British_D" "15.5235"
[6,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "15.6611"
[7,] "Kent_1KG" "15.67"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "15.9415"
[9,] "Cornwall_1KG" "16.2348"
[10,] "Orkney_1KG" "16.7463"
[11,] "Argyll_1KG" "16.8214"
[12,] "Orcadian" "17.2337"
[13,] "N._European" "17.696"
[14,] "German_D" "18.2445"
[15,] "CEU" "19.4373"
[16,] "FIN" "21.4728"
[17,] "French" "28.345"
[18,] "French_D" "28.758"
[19,] "Slovenian" "31.7167"
[20,] "Finnish_D" "32.8708"
[21,] "Hungarians" "35.8618"
[22,] "French_Basque" "38.7533"
[23,] "Portuguese_D" "44.4276"
[24,] "Spaniards" "45.0526"
[25,] "Polish_D" "45.3771"
[26,] "Mixed_Slav_D" "46.3977"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "46.4568"
[28,] "IBS" "46.8396"
[29,] "N_Italian_D" "48.4242"
[30,] "Tuscan_H" "48.5095"

[Pallantides]

Here you are:

[1,] "Swedish_D" "3.0249"
[2,] "Norwegian_D" "5.1923"
[3,] "Irish_D" "14.4385"
[4,] "British_Isles_D" "14.6274"
[5,] "British_D" "15.5235"
[6,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "15.6611"
[7,] "Kent_1KG" "15.67"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "15.9415"
[9,] "Cornwall_1KG" "16.2348"
[10,] "Orkney_1KG" "16.7463"
[11,] "Argyll_1KG" "16.8214"
[12,] "Orcadian" "17.2337"
[13,] "N._European" "17.696"
[14,] "German_D" "18.2445"
[15,] "CEU" "19.4373"
[16,] "FIN" "21.4728"
[17,] "French" "28.345"
[18,] "French_D" "28.758"
[19,] "Slovenian" "31.7167"
[20,] "Finnish_D" "32.8708"
[21,] "Hungarians" "35.8618"
[22,] "French_Basque" "38.7533"
[23,] "Portuguese_D" "44.4276"
[24,] "Spaniards" "45.0526"
[25,] "Polish_D" "45.3771"
[26,] "Mixed_Slav_D" "46.3977"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "46.4568"
[28,] "IBS" "46.8396"
[29,] "N_Italian_D" "48.4242"
[30,] "Tuscan_H" "48.5095"

I'm an undercover Swede. :D

[Kadu]

There are more interesting experiments...


[1,] "Portuguese_D" "0"

[2,] "75.7% French_Basque + 24.3% North_African_D" "3.1005"
[3,] "77.3% French_Basque + 22.7% TUNISIA" "3.7991"
[4,] "74.5% French_Basque + 25.5% Morocco_N" "4.1231"
[5,] "79.2% French_Basque + 20.8% Moroccans" "4.3614"
[6,] "76% French_Basque + 24% Algeria" "4.9487"
[7,] "79.7% French_Basque + 20.3% Sahara_OCC" "5.3297"
[8,] "26.3% Norwegian_D + 73.7% Sardinian" "5.9544"
[9,] "73.9% Sardinian + 26.1% Swedish_D" "6.0792"
[10,] "34.6% Orkney_1KG + 65.4% Sardinian" "6.3022"



[1,] "Portuguese_D" "0"

[2,] "42.5% French_D + 57.5% North_Italian" "9.5686"
[3,] "40.2% French + 59.8% North_Italian" "9.9674"
[4,] "22.9% British_D + 77.1% North_Italian" "10.3738"
[5,] "22.6% British_Isles_D + 77.4% North_Italian" "10.4191"
[6,] "20.9% Irish_D + 79.1% North_Italian" "10.4396"
[7,] "80.9% North_Italian + 19.1% Norwegian_D" "10.4646"
[8,] "22.6% Cornwall_1KG + 77.4% North_Italian" "10.4843"
[9,] "23.5% Kent_1KG + 76.5% North_Italian" "10.5444"
[10,] "24.4% Dutch_D + 75.6% North_Italian" "10.5915"




[1,] "Portuguese_D" "0"

[2,] "34.5% British_D + 65.5% Tuscan" "13.6625"
[3,] "34% British_Isles_D + 66% Tuscan" "13.7407"
[4,] "34.1% Cornwall_1KG + 65.9% Tuscan" "13.8304"
[5,] "35.5% Kent_1KG + 64.5% Tuscan" "13.861"
[6,] "31.7% Irish_D + 68.3% Tuscan" "13.9108"
[7,] "36.8% Dutch_D + 63.2% Tuscan" "13.9908"
[8,] "28.7% Norwegian_D + 71.3% Tuscan" "14.3415"
[9,] "39.3% Orkney_1KG + 60.7% Tuscan" "14.3421"
[10,] "39.6% Orcadian + 60.4% Tuscan" "14.3851"



[1,] "Portuguese_D" "0"

[2,] "50.1% British_D + 49.9% Sicilian_D" "16.3628"
[3,] "42.6% British_D + 57.4% C_Italian_D" "16.4823"
[4,] "49.6% British_Isles_D + 50.4% Sicilian_D" "16.5042"
[5,] "51.5% Kent_1KG + 48.5% Sicilian_D" "16.5328"
[6,] "49.8% Cornwall_1KG + 50.2% Sicilian_D" "16.5647"
[7,] "42.1% British_Isles_D + 57.9% C_Italian_D" "16.5955"
[8,] "56.1% C_Italian_D + 43.9% Kent_1KG" "16.6294"
[9,] "57.8% C_Italian_D + 42.2% Cornwall_1KG" "16.6757"
[10,] "53.2% Dutch_D + 46.8% Sicilian_D" "16.7418"


And now my results


with the Portuguese and Spaniards


[1,] "13.2% French + 86.8% Portuguese_D" "1.7818"
[2,] "13.9% French_D + 86.1% Portuguese_D" "1.7915"
[3,] "7.5% Dutch_D + 92.5% Portuguese_D" "1.8292"
[4,] "6.8% Cornwall_1KG + 93.2% Portuguese_D" "1.8392"
[5,] "6.8% British_D + 93.2% Portuguese_D" "1.8439"
[6,] "7.4% Mixed_Germanic_D + 92.6% Portuguese_D" "1.8461"
[7,] "6.2% Irish_D + 93.8% Portuguese_D" "1.8477"
[8,] "7.1% Kent_1KG + 92.9% Portuguese_D" "1.8557"
[9,] "6.7% British_Isles_D + 93.3% Portuguese_D" "1.8575"
[10,] "5.4% Norwegian_D + 94.6% Portuguese_D" "1.9031"


and now without the Portuguese and Spaniards

[1,] "77.5% French_Basque + 22.5% North_African_D" "2.5283"
[2,] "76.1% French_Basque + 23.9% Morocco_N" "2.9677"
[3,] "77.3% French_Basque + 22.7% Algeria" "3.1449"
[4,] "80.8% French_Basque + 19.2% Sahara_OCC" "3.7838"
[5,] "78.8% French_Basque + 21.2% Libya" "3.7911"
[6,] "79.3% French_Basque + 20.7% TUNISIA" "3.795"
[7,] "80.8% French_Basque + 19.2% Moroccans" "4.0658"
[8,] "30% Norwegian_D + 70% Sardinian" "4.6711"
[9,] "79.8% French_Basque + 20.2% Egypt" "4.6744"
[10,] "70.3% Sardinian + 29.7% Swedish_D" "4.9542"

[Pallantides]

Got this off evon on ABF


Mixed mode:

DOD197(Me)

[1,] "11.6% Finnish_D + 88.4% Norwegian_D" "2.9004"
[2,] "16.8% FIN + 83.2% Norwegian_D" "2.9109"
[3,] "1.9% FIN + 98.1% Swedish_D" "2.9977"
[4,] "0.8% Finnish_D + 99.2% Swedish_D" "3.0146"
[5,] "2% Norwegian_D + 98% Swedish_D" "3.0237"
[6,] "Swedish_D" "3.0249"
[7,] "FALSE" "3.0249"
[8,] "FALSE" "3.0249"
[9,] "FALSE" "3.0249"
[10,] "FALSE" "3.0249"

DOD306(evon)

[1,] "14.8% French_Basque + 85.2% Norwegian_D" "2.4597"
[2,] "88.5% Norwegian_D + 11.5% Spaniards" "3.2339"
[3,] "89% Norwegian_D + 11% Spanish_D" "3.2709"
[4,] "10.8% IBS + 89.2% Norwegian_D" "3.367"
[5,] "18% French_D + 82% Norwegian_D" "3.4268"
[6,] "18% French + 82% Norwegian_D" "3.5641"
[7,] "89.2% Norwegian_D + 10.8% Portuguese_D" "3.7023"
[8,] "92.1% Norwegian_D + 7.9% Sardinian" "3.7563"
[9,] "37.4% Kent_1KG + 62.6% Norwegian_D" "3.7921"
[10,] "41.9% British_Isles_D + 58.1% Norwegian_D" "3.8765"

DOD620(Olavsson)
[1,] "5.5% Lezgins + 94.5% Norwegian_D" "3.2675"
[2,] "4.9% Adygei + 95.1% Norwegian_D" "3.5759"
[3,] "94.2% Norwegian_D + 5.8% Urkarah" "3.8661"
[4,] "3.9% Georgians + 96.1% Norwegian_D" "3.8996"
[5,] "94.6% Norwegian_D + 5.4% Stalskoe" "4.263"
[6,] "3.7% Kalash + 96.3% Norwegian_D" "4.381"
[7,] "3.5% Lezgins + 96.5% Swedish_D" "4.3919"
[8,] "3.6% Iranian_D + 96.4% Norwegian_D" "4.4788"
[9,] "96% Norwegian_D + 4% Uzbeks" "4.5434"
[10,] "17.6% Irish_D + 82.4% Swedish_D" "4.5518"

[Kadu]

As per Iberia's request


The Dodecad Spaniards

Without the Behar Spaniards, the 1000 genome Spaniards and the Portuguese dodecad samples

[1,] "Spanish_D" "0"
[2,] "50.8% French_Basque + 49.2% North_Italian" "5.3721"
[3,] "76% French_Basque + 24% Sicilian_D" "5.578"
[4,] "78.6% French_Basque + 21.4% Sephardic_Jews" "5.7218"
[5,] "65.6% French_Basque + 34.4% Tuscan" "6.022"
[6,] "77.6% French_Basque + 22.4% S_Italian_D" "6.1124"
[7,] "76.4% French_Basque + 23.6% S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "6.3872"
[8,] "27.4% C_Italian_D + 72.6% French_Basque" "6.5154"
[9,] "82.6% French_Basque + 17.4% North_African_D" "6.6502"
[10,] "78.1% French_Basque + 21.9% Greek_D" "6.7"



Without Iberians


[1,] "Spanish_D" "0"
[2,] "42.4% French_D + 57.6% Sardinian" "4.4779"
[3,] "26.4% British_Isles_D + 73.6% Sardinian" "4.6844"
[4,] "26.6% British_D + 73.4% Sardinian" "4.7338"
[5,] "24.7% Irish_D + 75.3% Sardinian" "4.7938"
[6,] "27.4% Kent_1KG + 72.6% Sardinian" "4.8158"
[7,] "26.4% Cornwall_1KG + 73.6% Sardinian" "4.8652"
[8,] "40.8% French + 59.2% Sardinian" "4.8902"
[9,] "22.6% Norwegian_D + 77.4% Sardinian" "4.9599"
[10,] "28.1% Dutch_D + 71.9% Sardinian" "5.0715"


Without Iberians and Sardinians


[1,] "Spanish_D" "0"
[2,] "36.3% French_D + 63.7% North_Italian" "9.0344"
[3,] "33.6% French + 66.4% North_Italian" "9.5169"
[4,] "18.9% British_D + 81.1% North_Italian" "9.8938"
[5,] "17.3% Irish_D + 82.7% North_Italian" "9.9323"
[6,] "18.6% British_Isles_D + 81.4% North_Italian" "9.944"
[7,] "18.6% Cornwall_1KG + 81.4% North_Italian" "9.9621"
[8,] "19.2% Kent_1KG + 80.8% North_Italian" "10.0815"
[9,] "84.9% North_Italian + 15.1% Norwegian_D" "10.2309"
[10,] "19.5% Dutch_D + 80.5% North_Italian" "10.2356"

[Ibericus]

How strange, I have downloaded that program, and I had these results for Spaniards (excluding repeated samples, and Portuguese ) :

[1,] "Spanish_D" "0"
[2,] "52.7% French_Basque + 47.3% Sardinian" "3.3762"
[3,] "42.4% French_D + 57.6% Sardinian" "4.4779"
[4,] "26.4% British_Isles_D + 73.6% Sardinian" "4.6844"
[5,] "26.6% British_D + 73.4% Sardinian" "4.7338"
[6,] "24.7% Irish_D + 75.3% Sardinian" "4.7938"
[7,] "27.4% Kent_1KG + 72.6% Sardinian" "4.8158"
[8,] "26.4% Cornwall_1KG + 73.6% Sardinian" "4.8652"
[9,] "40.8% French + 59.2% Sardinian" "4.8902"
[10,] "22.6% Norwegian_D + 77.4% Sardinian" "4.9599"

[Graham]

Can someone do one of those Oracle thingy majingy populations for me please? My number is DOD345. :)

[Frederick]

Here is me:

Closest to my results:
[1,] "German_D" "6.2193"
[2,] "N._European" "10.2191"
[3,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.0055"
[4,] "Orkney_1KG" "11.8474"
[5,] "Orcadian" "12.005"
[6,] "CEU" "12.0287"
[7,] "Swedish_D" "14.857"
[8,] "Slovenian" "16.1515"
[9,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "16.3117"
[10,] "FIN" "17.287"

Thats the average German patricipant for comparation:
[1,] "German_D" "0"
[2,] "Argyll_1KG" "6.5115"
[3,] "N._European" "6.5215"
[4,] "CEU" "6.9361"
[5,] "Orcadian" "7.3797"
[6,] "Orkney_1KG" "7.4458"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "13.8069"
[8,] "Slovenian" "14.4232"
[9,] "Dutch_D" "15.2286"
[10,] "Swedish_D" "16.463"

My best matching pairwise mix (cleaned up the million British variants and bigger number in front):
[1,] "73.5% N._European + 26.5% Finnish_D" "3.743"
[2,] "58.2% Swedish_D + 41.8% Hungarians" "3.7955"
[3,] "52.2% Swedish_D + 47.8% Slovenian" "3.8456"
[4,] "70.2% Swedish_D + 29.8% Balkans_D" "3.9915"
[5,] "64.3% British_D + 35.7% Russian_D" "4.1963"
[6,] "59.3% Irish_D + 40.7% Mixed_Slav_D" "4.253"
[7,] "62.4% Irish_D + 37.6% Russian_D" "4.3541"
[8,] "74.2% Dutch_D + 25.8% Lithuanian_D" "4.3942"
[9,] "69.7% Dutch_D + 30.3% Russian" "4.4308"
[10,] "66.6% Irish_D" + 33.4% Belorussian "4.4549"

Same for the average German participant:
[1,] "German_D" "0"
[2,] "68.8% Dutch_D + 31.2% Polish_D" "0.8681"
[3,] "75.4% Dutch_D + 24.6% Belorussian" "1.1252"
[4,] "69.4% Dutch_D + 30.6% Mixed_Slav_D" "1.257"
[5,] "84.4% Orkney_1KG + 15.6% Russian_D" "1.3469"
[6,] "82.5% Orkney_1KG + 17.5% Mixed_Slav_D" "1.5116"
[7,] "87.8% Orcadian + 12.2% Lithuanian_D" "1.5121"
[8,] "86.5% Orkney_1KG + 13.5% Belorussian" "1.5719"
[9,] "82.1% Orkney_1KG + 17.9% Polish_D" "1.5994"
[10,] "81.9% CEU + 18.1% Finnish_D" "1.7566"

Me, pairwise mixes German with X (sorted by best matching):
[1,] "79.4% German_D + 20.6% FIN" "4.4711"
[2,] "85.9% German_D + 14.1% Finnish_D" "4.4936"
[3,] "96.8% German_D + 3.2% Saudis" "5.4999"
[4,] "94.8% German_D + 5.2% Lithuanian_D" "5.5947" (fits well with the Lithuanian Great Great Grandmother (Grandfather said: She was Lithuanian OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT (lol) Well, maybe she was Fin?), who by average should contribute 6% (0%-12%) to my DNA)
[5,] "83.6% German_D + 16.4% Swedish_D" "5.6015"
[6,] "97.1% German_D + 2.9% Yemen_Jews" "5.6678"
[7,] "95% German_D + 5% Chuvashs_16" "5.7145"
[8,] "93.9% German_D + 6.1% Russian_D" "5.7341"
[9,] "90.2% German_D + 9.8% Norwegian_D" "5.9405"
[10,] "94.7% German_D + 5.3% Polish_D" "5.9629"

[Frederick]

Can someone do one of those Oracle thingy majingy populations for me please? My number is DOD345. :)

Your closest Nations:
[1,] "Irish_D" "5.1624"
[2,] "Cornwall_1KG" "8.1945"
[3,] "British_Isles_D" "8.4829"
[4,] "British_D" "8.565"
[5,] "Kent_1KG" "10.6269"
[6,] "Norwegian_D" "11.0463"
[7,] "Dutch_D" "12.6234"
[8,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "14.0517"
[9,] "Swedish_D" "15.005"
[10,] "Orkney_1KG" "20.0788"


Average West Scott:
[1,] "Argyll_1KG" "0"
[2,] "Orkney_1KG" "1.7607"
[3,] "Orcadian" "1.7833"
[4,] "N._European" "2.7074"
[5,] "CEU" "2.9614"
[6,] "German_D" "6.5115"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "7.9051"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "9.2439"
[9,] "Kent_1KG" "11.4328"
[10,] "British_Isles_D" "13.159"


Your best matching pairwise mixes:

[1,] "99.3% Irish_D + 0.7% Norwegian_D" "5.1619"
[228,] "69.1% Cornwall_1KG + 30.9% Norwegian_D" "7.3133"
[229,] "69% British_D + 31% Norwegian_D" "7.8153"
[230,] "85.8% Cornwall_1KG + 14.2% Swedish_D" "7.9204"
[231,] "72.8% British_Isles_D + 27.2% Norwegian_D" "7.9881"
(all others "FALSE")

Average West Scott:

[1,] "Argyll_1KG" "0"
[2,] "2.1% Lezgins + 97.9% Orkney_1KG" "0.9102"
[3,] "97.2% Orkney_1KG + 2.8% Urkarah" "0.9137"
[4,] "2.1% Adygei + 97.9% Orkney_1KG" "0.9348"
[5,] "97.1% Orkney_1KG + 2.9% Stalskoe" "1.0386"
[6,] "1.6% Georgians + 98.4% Orkney_1KG" "1.0949"
[7,] "1.9% Lezgins + 98.1% Orcadian" "1.1511"
[8,] "1.9% Iranian_D + 98.1% Orkney_1KG" "1.1579"
[9,] "1.8% Kalash + 98.2% Orkney_1KG" "1.1796"
[10,] "64.5% British_Isles_D + 35.5% Hungarians" "1.1887"

[d3cimat3d]

Mine

> DodecadOracle(c(17.9, 25.7, 21.4, 0, 27.9, 1.6, 1.8, 0.2, 0.2, 3.1, 0.2, 0))
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Romanians_14" "17.978"
[2,] "Stalskoe" "17.9931"
[3,] "Balkans_D" "20.5541"
[4,] "Tuscan_X" "23.1387"
[5,] "Slovenian" "23.6347"
[6,] "TSI" "24.0662"
[7,] "Urkarah" "24.0998"
[8,] "Tuscan_H" "24.4053"
[9,] "Hungarians" "24.5495"
[10,] "Greek_D" "26.6107"

> DodecadOracle(c(17.9, 25.7, 21.4, 0, 27.9, 1.6, 1.8, 0.2, 0.2, 3.1, 0.2, 0),mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "54.1% Balkans_D + 45.9% Urkarah" "3.1354"
[2,] "68.6% Balkans_D + 31.4% Lezgins" "3.4867"
[3,] "32.2% Georgians + 67.8% Hungarians" "3.6472"
[4,] "46.5% Balkans_D + 53.5% Stalskoe" "3.7444"
[5,] "31.3% Georgians + 68.7% Slovenian" "4.4874"
[6,] "28.3% Lezgins + 71.7% Romanians_14" "4.6283"
[7,] "57.7% Romanians_14 + 42.3% Urkarah" "4.8648"
[8,] "59% Hungarians + 41% Iranian_D" "4.8934"
[9,] "37.4% Adygei + 62.6% Hungarians" "5.1068"
[10,] "37.6% FIN + 62.4% Turkish_D" "5.1602"

[Scrapple]

DOD283 I am a mixed intra-European.

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Slovenian" "3.1161"
[2,] "Hungarians" "4.4508"
[3,] "German_D" "14.5066"
[4,] "Balkans_D" "18.0266"
[5,] "CEU" "18.5227"
[6,] "N._European" "19.2008"
[7,] "Argyll_1KG" "19.5448"
[8,] "Orcadian" "20.2322"
[9,] "Orkney_1KG" "20.5538"
[10,] "Romanians_14" "21.613"


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "81.8% Hungarians + 18.2% Argyll_1KG" "0.9474"
[2,] "82.3% Hungarians + 17.7% Orcadian" "1.0088"
[3,] "82.6% Hungarians + 17.4% Orkney_1KG" "1.0294"
[4,] "11.7% British_Isles_D + 88.3% Hungarians" "1.0523"
[5,] "87.7% Hungarians + 12.3% Kent_1KG" "1.0649"
[6,] "89.2% Hungarians + 10.8% Irish_D" "1.0663"
[7,] "86.2% Hungarians + 13.8% Mixed_Germanic_D" "1.1048"
[8,] "11.4% Cornwall_1KG + 88.6% Hungarians" "1.107"
[9,] "11.6% British_D + 88.4% Hungarians" "1.1167"
[10,] "22.9% German_D + 77.1% Hungarians" "1.1569"

Not of Slovenian ancestry but do have Southern German and Austrian and that seems to dominate. For the second set of data not Hungarian but the allele frequencies put me there in Polako's old map. Interesting though that it chose Irish, English and Scot as the second choice where I have paper and dna ancestry.

[Frederick]

Good news for all of you, who miss the limitations of the project, like all 4 Grandparents from one country etc etc) aswell as for the Paranoids who dont want to send 1 Million or more SNP of their DNA sequence to a person they dont know. ;)
and so on and so on....

Dienekes made a tool that analyses your Raw Data file on your local mashine and gives you Dodecad v3 results (wich again one can feed into Oracle etc)

Here:

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/07/do-it-yourself-dodecad-v-10.html

[Pallantides]

[1,] "Norwegian_D" "6.1164"
[1,] "0.6% Lezgins + 99.4% Norwegian_D" "4.3204"
[1,] "11.6% Finnish_D + 88.4% Norwegian_D" "2.9004"
[1,] "41.4% Irish_D + 58.6% Norwegian_D" "3.9437"
[1,] "3.4% Irish_D + 96.6% Norwegian_D" "2.2021"
[1,] "14.8% French_Basque + 85.2% Norwegian_D" "2.4597"
[1,] "16.1% Spanish_D + 83.9% Swedish_D" "2.3103"
[1,] "5.5% Lezgins + 94.5% Norwegian_D" "3.2675"
[1,] "3% Saudis + 97% Swedish_D" "3.2654"
[1,] "28.2% Irish_D + 71.8% Norwegian_D" "1.7926"

[Don Brick]

If I did this right here´s what I got. ;)

[1,] "FIN" "7.625"
[2,] "German_D" "14.49"
[3,] "Finnish_D" "16.2865"
[4,] "Slovenian" "18.4529"
[5,] "Argyll_1KG" "19.8328"
[6,] "N._European" "19.8784"
[7,] "Swedish_D" "20.1794"
[8,] "Hungarians" "20.5166"
[9,] "Orkney_1KG" "20.6988"
[10,] "Orcadian" "20.8269"

Can anybody explain why "Slovenian" pops up everywhere? Quite unexpected...

[Amapola]

My personal results for 30:

[1,] "Portuguese_D" "5.6454"
[2,] "IBS" "7.0007"
[3,] "Spaniards" "7.6903"
[4,] "Spanish_D" "7.9454"
[5,] "N_Italian_D" "10.9105"
[6,] "North_Italian" "11.5538"
[7,] "Sardinian" "15.4945"
[8,] "French_Basque" "16.1938"
[9,] "Tuscan_H" "16.5048"
[10,] "TSI" "16.8021"
[11,] "French_D" "17.0898"
[12,] "Tuscan_X" "17.4169"
[13,] "French" "17.4843"
[14,] "Tuscan" "18.0189"
[15,] "O_Italian_D" "18.3872"
[16,] "C_Italian_D" "24.117"
[17,] "CEU" "26.3869"
[18,] "N._European" "28.2753"
[19,] "Orcadian" "28.3454"
[20,] "Orkney_1KG" "28.7232"
[21,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "28.9653"
[22,] "Argyll_1KG" "29.0792"
[23,] "Ashkenazi_D" "29.511"
[24,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "30.3982"
[25,] "Slovenian" "30.439"
[26,] "Dutch_D" "30.9698"
[27,] "German_D" "31.0145"
[28,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "31.1427"
[29,] "Sicilian_D" "31.3959"
[30,] "Romanians_14" "31.918"

[Osweo]

My personal results for 30:
In other words;
[QUOTE]
Iberian
Iberian
Iberian
Iberian
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Iberian
Med
Med
Gaul
Med
Gaul
Med
Med
Med
Germania
Germania
BRITISH
BRITISH
Jew
GAELIC - Argyle is 'Eastern Gael' - a Gaelic colonised part of Britain
Jew
Med
Med/Slav
Germania
Germania
Germania
Med
Balkano-Med

[Amapola]

Loki's result, uh St Loki :p Fresa's courtesy ;)

[1,] "CEU" "10.1005"
[2,] "N._European" "10.9398"
[3,] "German_D" "11.3309"
[4,] "Slovenian" "11.9122"
[5,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.9445"
[6,] "Orcadian" "12.3891"
[7,] "Orkney_1KG" "12.7934"
[8,] "French" "13.9101"
[9,] "French_D" "14.0915"
[10,] "Hungarians" "16.5795"
[11,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "17.4161"
[12,] "Dutch_D" "19.0431"
[13,] "Kent_1KG" "21.4299"
[14,] "Tuscan_H" "22.0259"
[15,] "TSI" "22.1499"
[16,] "Tuscan_X" "22.1504"
[17,] "N_Italian_D" "22.5493"
[18,] "Portuguese_D" "23.4017"
[19,] "British_D" "23.5064"
[20,] "British_Isles_D" "23.5323"
[21,] "Cornwall_1KG" "24.0699"
[22,] "Spaniards" "25.1617"
[23,] "French_Basque" "25.5853"
[24,] "Swedish_D" "25.8232"
[25,] "IBS" "25.9021"
[26,] "Balkans_D" "25.9933"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "26.1377"
[28,] "Romanians_14" "26.5761"
[29,] "Irish_D" "26.7802"
[30,] "Norwegian_D" "27.3417"
>

[Amapola]

In other words;
[QUOTE]
Iberian
Iberian
Iberian
Iberian
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Mediterranean
Iberian
Med
Med
Gaul
Med
Gaul
Med
Med
Med
Germania
Germania
BRITISH
BRITISH
Jew
GAELIC - Argyle is 'Eastern Gael' - a Gaelic colonised part of Britain
Jew
Med
Med/Slav
Germania
Germania
Germania
Med
Balkano-Med

In other words, simply the best :embarrassed :thumb001:

[Scrapple]

http://dodecad.blogspot.com/

Version 2.0 is out
There are many new features in DIYDodecad 2.0, including by-chromosome and by-segment ancestry analysis, and a visualization tool that can be used in conjunction with it. Simple admixture analysis as in version 1.0 is, of course, also included.

Haven't run mine yet going to do that tomorrow.

Edit more info from LarryinCA You have to modidy the dv3.par file by changing the "genomewide" to "bychr" to get this output when you run DIYDodecadWin dv3.par.

[Scrapple]

Chr E EuropeW Europe Med Neo-Afr W Asia S Asia NE Asia SE Asia E Afr SW Asia NW Africa PAfrica
1 22.36 39.31 28.96 0 3.64 3.95 0.01 0.92 0 0.64 0.21 0
2 22.5 44.87 23.18 0 5.27 4.17 0 0 0 0 0 0
3 25.65 34.61 29.65 0 9.12 0 0 0 0.57 0.37 0.04 0
4 24.58 43.99 22.04 0 0 0.01 1.97 0.5 0 6.1 0.81 0
5 29.12 46.07 17.11 0 0.18 2.62 0 0 0.4 4.21 0 0.29
6 23.05 48.15 24.03 0.59 2.14 0 0 0 0 2.05 0 0
7 28.28 37.42 17.46 0 12.96 0 1.48 2.38 0 0 0.01 0
8 29.09 42.85 16.9 0 11.07 0.01 0.09 0 0 0 0 0
9 13.33 36.73 24.29 0 14.51 6.59 1.23 0 0 1.77 0.03 1.53
10 18.11 37.84 29.42 0 0.06 0 0 0 0 14.54 0.03 0
11 20.97 33.35 23.24 0 18.06 0 2.76 0 0 0.01 1.62 0
12 27.34 41.17 21.05 0 9.95 0 0 0 0 0.14 0 0.34
13 25.78 46.09 28.13 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
14 31.02 23.62 22.71 0 18.39 0.01 2.03 0.8 0 0.01 1.41 0
15 7.9 44.66 38.46 0 3.57 0 1.45 0 0 2 1.95 0
16 20.41 28.67 29.62 0 11.48 0 5.57 0.27 0 0 3.98 0
17 28.09 34.13 25.57 1.01 9.8 0.65 0 0.01 0 0.55 0 0.18
18 34.89 20.34 27.4 0 17.36 0 0 0 0 0.01 0 0
19 24.13 40.47 32.17 0 0.32 0 2.91 0 0 0 0 0
20 10.16 41.22 23.9 0 21.31 0.59 2.14 0.67 0 0.01 0 0
21 14.01 39.42 24.93 0 16.73 0 0.02 0 3.41 0 1.48 0
22 34.36 39.53 7.08 0 15.4 0 0 0 0 2.01 1.61 0

Interesting SW Asia on Chr 10. No Jewish ancestry and confirmed none on 23andme. Wonder how old it is. Could it be from the Neolithic expansion or a Turkic incursion. Relatively lots of W Asian possible Hunnic?

Not much change from DIYDodecad 1 for my overall:
----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

23.96% East_European
40.16% West_European
25.36% Mediterranean
0.04% Neo_African
8.64% West_Asian
0.18% South_Asian
0.81% Northeast_Asian
0.06% Southeast_Asian
0.00% East_African
0.59% Southwest_Asian
0.20% Northwest_African
0.00% Palaeo_African

[Graham]

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/chartdododecad.png
http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g156/irnbru293/graphdodecad-1.png

Took a while to figure out

[Scrapple]

Graham's looks exactly like the others I have seen from a pair of Englishmen and an Irishman.

My mess of a graph
http://i.imgur.com/VR5Aa.png

Edit some easier instructions:
Open up dv3.par in wordpad and change "genomewide" to "bychr" no quotes then in R enter these commands:

setwd('C:\file path to\DIYDodecad') or just File>Change Dir and locate the DIYDodecad folder

source('standardize.r')

standardize('mygenome.txt', company='23andMe')

system('DIYDodecadWin dv3.par')

[Frederick]

Sahsons results for Dodecad:


10.75% East_European
53.80% West_European
24.27% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo_African
8.45% West_Asian
1.01% South_Asian
0.00% Northeast_Asian
0.00% Southeast_Asian
0.00% East_African
0.89% Southwest_Asian
0.76% Northwest_African
0.07% Palaeo_African


Closest Populations:
[1,] "CEU" "2.0793"
[2,] "N._European" "2.2516"
[3,] "Argyll_1KG" "2.4285"
[4,] "Orcadian" "3.0433"
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "3.2489"
[6,] "German_D" "6.9998"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "8.5498"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "9.9679"
[9,] "French" "12.0623"
[10,] "Kent_1KG" "12.335"
[11,] "French_D" "12.5646"
[12,] "British_Isles_D" "14.247"
[13,] "British_D" "14.3897"
[14,] "Cornwall_1KG" "15.105"
[15,] "Swedish_D" "16.9612"
[16,] "Irish_D" "17.4821"
[17,] "Norwegian_D" "17.944"
[18,] "Slovenian" "18.2588"
[19,] "Hungarians" "23.0089"
[20,] "French_Basque" "24.8459"

I check for these new tools later. ;)

[Peasant]

I've been playing around with DIY Dodecad 2.0 and I got this.



----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

10.94% East_European
54.98% West_European
26.34% Mediterranean
0.14% Neo_African
5.55% West_Asian
0.58% South_Asian
0.09% Northeast_Asian
0.14% Southeast_Asian
0.00% East_African
0.22% Southwest_Asian
1.03% Northwest_African
0.00% Palaeo_African

Closest Populations

[1,] "CEU" "2.5034"
[2,] "Orcadian" "2.7127"
[3,] "Orkney_1KG" "2.9545"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "3.9244"
[5,] "N._European" "4.7437"
[6,] "German_D" "7.9408"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "9.5955"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "9.904"
[9,] "French" "11.0081"
[10,] "French_D" "11.0099"

Mixed Mode

[1,] "91% Orkney_1KG + 9% Portuguese_D" "1.4645"
[2,] "91.7% Orkney_1KG + 8.3% Spanish_D" "1.5273"
[3,] "8.2% IBS + 91.8% Orkney_1KG" "1.5502"
[4,] "92.2% Orcadian + 7.8% Portuguese_D" "1.5656"
[5,] "91.6% Orkney_1KG + 8.4% Spaniards" "1.6446"
[6,] "92.9% Orcadian + 7.1% Spanish_D" "1.6547"
[7,] "7% IBS + 93% Orcadian" "1.6813"
[8,] "94.3% Orkney_1KG + 5.7% Sardinian" "1.6967"
[9,] "92.8% Orcadian + 7.2% Spaniards" "1.7489"
[10,] "95.3% Orcadian + 4.7% Sardinian" "1.8262"

[Frederick]

Boudica

Per Chromosom results:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13587&stc=1&d=1313805532

Oracle admix suggestions often had an Italian component in it.
And it suggested things from

50/50 Swedish/Tuscan
to
90% CEU (White American of predominantly NOrthwest European anchestry) + 10% Southern Italian

As can be expected from the 90% CEU value, her closest populations had been "Northern European" and "CEU".

[Frederick]

My own "Per Chromosome":

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13588&stc=1&d=1313807555

[Frederick]

Sahsons per Chromosome:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=13589&stc=1&d=1313808788

[Pallantides]

Please do me Fredrick, DOD197.

[Loki]

Mine too pls! DOD442

[Damião de Góis]

Edit some easier instructions:
Open up dv3.par in wordpad and change "genomewide" to "bychr" no quotes then in R enter these commands:

setwd('C:\file path to\DIYDodecad') or just File>Change Dir and locate the DIYDodecad folder

source('standardize.r')

standardize('mygenome.txt', company='23andMe')

system('DIYDodecadWin dv3.par')

Could you please tell me how i generate my graph besides those instructions?

[Scrapple]

Could you please tell me how i generate my graph besides those instructions?


1. Open up the text file in either excel or open office. It will go through a wizard just keep hitting next till that goes away.

2. The top row will be messed up a bit so just re-type that in so the column headers are correct

3. Then select ONLY the columns for the different populations percentages(don't include chr or #SNPs)

4. Now in Excel 2007
http://i.imgur.com/8D8Pp.png

For 2003 or OpenOffice just go to Insert>Chart after selecting the data and for Open Office follow the wizard>
Screenshot of OpenOffice don't have a copy of excel 2003
http://i.imgur.com/0bOox.png

[Frederick]

I need your raw data files to do it.
Or you try it on your own.

If you already have "R" and all this stuff (that was also used for Oracle)

Then it works like this (slaps Dienekes face for this complicated way):

1. Download DYS 2.0 and unpack it.
2. Put your file into the directory of the DYS 2.0 thingy.
3. rename it to "Johndoe"
4. start "R" and look under "File" section of the menue for something to change the working directory. Change it to the directory of your DYS 2.0 thingy.
5. type source('standardize.r') into your "R"
6. type standardize('johndoe.txt', company='23andMe') if its 23andMe Data (here you could also put the name of your file instead of Johndoe but... renaming the file into Johndoe is a little faster)
OR
standardize('johndoe.csv', company='ftdna') if it is FTDNA Data

7. Open the DV3.PAR (the PAR not the TXT!) with wordpad (not with notepad!)

you find this:

1D-7
12
genotype.txt
166462
dv3.txt
dv3.12.F
dv3.alleles
verbose
genomewide

exchange "genomewide" with "bychr" and save.

8. type system('DIYDodecadWin dv3.par') to the "R" window
Now it takes some time, depending on the speed of your computer. Some claim it takes 10 or 15 Minutes. With my laptop (ASUS G73J Gaminglaptop) it takes 5 Minutes. *shrugs*

9. Now there is a "bychr" textfile in your DYS 2.0 folder.

10. Now if you dont have an American version of Excel, it may be that "." shiuld be exchanged to ",". (for Germans. Dont know if other nations also use "," in numbers and not "." (i learned it the hard way, after my fucking Excell made all the numbers to DATES all the fucking time. GRRRRR (And I am an Excel noob)

You do this like this:
Open in notepad or whatever. Click CTRL+H, and let it replace all "." with ",".

So, now you can save it and open it with Excel. Tell it you want to make a change to the collumns, then tell it that a SPACE is the mark for a new collumn.

Finnish, there you have the stuff in excel, with all the collumns correct. (and not turning 7.12 into 7th December ha ha)

And then you chose the stuff (except the first collumn) and insert a graph.

:zzz

[Damião de Góis]

This is very hard to do in Open Office in portuguese, i had to download the trial version of Excel 2007 to do this. But it turned out well :thumb001:

http://oi52.tinypic.com/4vfup5.jpg

http://oi52.tinypic.com/29vjl2e.jpg

[Loki]

Interesting, when I do it "bychr", my West European average is higher, and South European lower.

[Damião de Góis]

Here are my normal results by the way:

Mediterranean: 42.86%
West European: 38.33%
Northwest African: 7.25%
West Asian: 5.73%
East European: 2.94%
Neo African: 1.07%
East African: 0.94%
South Asian 0.76%
Paleo African 0.11%

Southwest Asian: 0%
Northeast Asian: 0%
Southeast Asian: 0%

[Frederick]

I know Dienekes didnt recommented using Oracle on tiny DNA fragments instead of genomewide but I wanted to know what would be the result anyways. :p

I flushed every single Chromosom through the Oracle thing and these are the top nation for each Chromosom:
(only Nations and no doublettes)

Chromosom 1: Orkney Island
Chromosom 2: Slovenia
Chromosom 3: Germany
Chromosom 4: Sweden
Chromosom 5: Germany
Chromosom 6: Slovenia
Chromosom 7: Germany
Chromosom 8: Finland
Chromosom 9: Germany
Chromosom 10: Netherland
Chromosom 11: Finland
Chromosom 12: France
Chromosom 13: Germany
Chromosom 14:Finland
Chromosom 15: Slovenia
Chromosom 16: Finland
Chromsom 17: France
Chromosom 18: Germany
Chromosom 19: Germany
Chromosom 20: Germany
Chromosom 21: Norway
Chromosom 22: Italy

8/22 Germany
4/22 Finland (because of my Lithuanian Great Great Grandmom maybe)
3/22 Slovenia
2/22 France
1/22 Orkney Island
1/22 Norway
1/22 Sweden
1/22 Netherland
1/22 Italy

EDIT:
Needed to Edit, my Great Grandmom into my Great Great GRandmom... lol

[Humanophage]

Interesting, when I do it "bychr", my West European average is higher, and South European lower.
I'd imagine that it is due to the different amounts of SNPs in your chromosomes. Chromosome 1 has 13376 SNPs, while chromosome 22 has but 2688. Consequently, Chromosome 1 influences the actual average to a much greater degree. Simply averaging by chromosome results will not take this into account, and hence will yield little.

[Imperivm]

Why does everyone get wog and chink scores on this, but on Eurogenes and previous Dienekes tests they get no non-Euro?

[Frederick]

Why does everyone get wog and chink scores on this, but on Eurogenes and previous Dienekes tests they get no non-Euro?

Dienekes said, the tool produces more "noise" than the calculations he officially does. I think he refers to these small percentages of African and Asian.

[Transhumanist]

My "bychr."

Chr E_Euro W_Euro Medite Neo_Af W_Asia S_Asia N_E_As S_E_As E_Afri S_W_As N_W_Af Pal_Af
1 2.57 0.37 23.6 0 52.23 0 1.97 0 0.01 19.25 0 0
2 2.43 7.58 22.79 0 43.63 0.02 0 0 0 23.54 0.02 0
3 1.34 2.82 31.18 0.02 45.32 9.02 0 0 0.36 8.92 1.02 0
4 0.01 2.73 17.59 0.09 50.22 11.48 1.04 0 0 16.84 0 0
5 0 4.67 31.83 0 30.77 5.28 0.26 0 1.03 26.16 0 0
6 6.09 0.04 23.46 0 44.85 0.56 2.06 0 0 21 1.94 0
7 0.07 0 28.7 0.32 45.66 3.18 0.28 0.74 2.85 18.21 0 0
8 0.03 0 27.38 0.3 49.83 2.77 0 0.73 0 15 3.96 0
9 4.26 6.9 23.51 0 38.02 10.47 0 0 0.75 16.09 0 0
10 8.41 1.35 16.76 0 41.03 9.85 0 1.95 0 17.47 2.28 0.89
11 0 0 21.4 0 50.13 0.01 0 0 0 21.33 7.12 0
12 4.96 6.81 20.94 0 44.62 0.37 0 0.17 0 22.13 0 0
13 0 0.04 23.8 0 46.45 10.43 0 5.86 0 12.84 0 0.58
14 1.47 2.49 14.57 0.01 44.33 12.26 1.66 0 0.01 20.57 1.45 1.16
15 0.01 11.11 23.39 0 51.67 0 0 0 1.05 10.51 2.25 0
16 0.02 4.23 31.48 0 41.27 5.44 0.17 0 0 17.38 0 0
17 0 18.13 25.62 0 36.75 2.32 0 0 0 17.15 0.02 0
18 0.03 0 20.58 0 39.15 0 0 3.58 3.03 33.63 0 0
19 0 0 24.13 0 42.68 4.25 0 2.13 5.94 19.18 1.69 0
20 5.33 0 29.48 0 41.21 5.54 0 3.95 0.3 14.18 0.01 0
21 7.88 0.01 19.45 1.58 44.59 4.45 4.19 2.48 0 15.36 0 0
22 0 14.23 24.56 0 34.45 2.79 0 0.13 0 23.84 0 0

[Sicilianu101]

I just received admixture analysis results from Dienekes. I am DOD804 on the spreadsheet. I sorted them. :)

Mediterranean 34.8
West_Asian 27.4
West_European 17.2
Southwest_Asian 11.4
Northwest_African 6.6
East_European 1.5
East_African 1.1
Neo_African 0.2
South_Asian 0
Northeast_Asian 0
Southeast_Asian 0
Palaeo_African 0

[Kadu]

My DIY Dodecad2.0 results


Genome-wide results:


41.89% Mediterranean
41.69% West_European
5.50% Northwest_African
3.34% Southwest_Asian
3.27% West_Asian
1.81% East_African
1.24% East_European
0.63% Southeast_Asian
0.61% Neo_African
0.01% South_Asian
0.00% Northeast_Asian
0.00% Palaeo_African


By chromossome:


http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/Imagem16-1.png
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/Imagem17-2.png

[Humanophage]

4/22 Finland (because of my Lithuanian Great Great Grandmom maybe)
'FIN' and 'German_D' are Dodecad's primary way of explaining West Europeans with a significant East European element. Germans_D and FIN (not Finnish_D) are principally rather similar to each other, except that Finns are less Mediterranean.

25% EE, 55% WE and 20% Med = German_D, then FIN
25% EE, 55% WE, 10% Med, 10% scattered = FIN, then German_D

A hypothetical Prussian German would turn out FIN, for instance: he will be mostly WE, with a moderate EE and little Med. Lithuanians do have the single highest EE percentage of all nations there, but it's unlikely that such a far-away ancestor would be a significant influence.

[Frederick]

'FIN' and 'German_D' are Dodecad's primary way of explaining West Europeans with a significant East European element. Germans_D and FIN (not Finnish_D) are principally rather similar to each other, except that Finns are less Mediterranean.

25% EE, 55% WE and 20% Med = German_D, then FIN
25% EE, 55% WE, 10% Med, 10% scattered = FIN, then German_D

A hypothetical Prussian German would turn out FIN, for instance: he will be mostly WE, with a moderate EE and little Med. Lithuanians do have the single highest EE percentage of all nations there, but it's unlikely that such a far-away ancestor would be a significant influence.

Hm. I see.
Its 3 times "FIN" and 1 time "Finnish".

[d3cimat3d]

My" bychr"

http://i53.tinypic.com/121flv6.png

Everything else is to small to tell if it's noise or not.

[Pallantides]

My result from Vadims MDLP K=7:

Scandinavian 16.90%
Volga_Region 6.58%
Altaic 2.75%
Celto_Germanic 32.75%
Caucassian_Anatolian_Balkanic 6.54%
Balto_Slavic 20.49%
North_Atlantic 13.99%



Results of two other Norwegians:

East Norwegian

Scandinavian 16.69%
Volga_Region 5.69%
Altaic 2.01%
Celto_Germanic 30.20%
Caucassian_Anatolian_Balkanic 8.44%
Balto_Slavic 21.10%
North_Atlantic 15.87%

West Norwegian

Scandinavian 16.41%
Volga_Region 4.82%
Altaic 2.28%
Celto_Germanic 34.11%
Caucassian_Anatolian_Balkanic 8.90%
Balto_Slavic 17.98%
North_Atlantic 15.50%

[Damião de Góis]

^same:

Celto_Germanic 34.62%
Caucasian_Anatolian 24.79%
Balto_Slavic 16.23%
North_Atlantic 15.13%
Scandinavian 3.98%
Altaic 3.09%
Volga_Region 2.16%

[Humanophage]

I posted a pretty large summary of my genome analyses here, including what I got from DIY Dodecad: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32236

Total:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/Genetics/DodecadDIY.gif
East European 34.85
West European 40.44
Mediterranean 14.51
Neo African 0
West Asian 4.81
South Asian 1.87
Northeast Asian 2.1
Southeast Asian 0.16
East African 0
Southwest Asian 1.25
Northwest African 0.02
Palaeo African 0

By chromosome:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/Genetics/BychrDodecad.gif

Distance:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/Genetics/DodecadOracleDistance.gif

Admixtures:
[1,] "30.1% Dutch_D + 69.9% Russian_D" "1.5187"
[2,] "41.4% German_D + 58.6% Russian_D" "1.6394"
[3,] "35% Orkney_1KG + 65% Russian_D" "1.6766"
[4,] "64% Russian_D + 36% N._European" "1.7168"
[5,] "64.2% Russian_D + 35.8% Argyll_1KG" "1.7379"
[6,] "29% Kent_1KG + 71% Russian_D" "1.7399"
[7,] "28.2% British_D + 71.8% Russian_D" "1.829"
[8,] "35% Orcadian + 65% Russian_D" "1.8303"
[9,] "27.8% Cornwall_1KG + 72.2% Russian_D" "1.8729"
[10,] "28.4% British_Isles_D + 71.6% Russian_D" "1.9713"
[11,] "31% Mixed_Germanic_D + 69% Russian_D" "2.0678"
[12,] "35.6% CEU + 64.4% Russian_D" "2.1894"
[13,] "75.9% Mixed_Slav_D + 24.1% Norwegian_D" "2.3867"
[14,] "27.2% Irish_D + 72.8% Russian_D" "2.4581"
[15,] "73.9% Mixed_Slav_D + 26.1% Swedish_D" "2.4901"
[16,] "39.7% CEU + 60.3% Russian" "2.5115"
[17,] "45.7% German_D + 54.3% Russian" "2.5225"
[18,] "39.7% Balkans_D + 60.3% Finnish_D" "2.7178"
[19,] "39% Orcadian + 61% Russian" "2.8134"
[20,] "21.4% Irish_D + 78.6% Mixed_Slav_D" "2.8758"

P.S. My MDLP K=7:
Scandinavian (Finns) 17.80%
Volga region (Chuvash) 9.69%
Celto-Germanic (GBR-Cornwall/Kent) 17.68%
Trancauscassian-Anatolian-Balkanic (Georgians) 8.68%
Balto-Slavic (Lithuanians) 37.68%
Altaic (Uzbeks) 2.17%
North-Atlantic (GBR_Orkney) 6.30%

Since the reference populations are a little extreme, while individual results are not labelled, I find it somewhat difficult to see the whole picture here.

[Pallantides]

My Dodecad DiY result:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4680/graphdiy.png
East_European 14.18%
West_European 67.46%
Mediterranean 12.94%
Neo_African 0.00%
West_Asian 4.21%
South_Asian 0.00%
Northeast_Asian 1.20%
Southeast_Asian 0.00%
East_African 0.00%
Southwest_Asian 0.00%
Northwest_African 0.00%
Palaeo_African 0.00%

[Frederick]

xxx

[Johnston]

Those all look like conflicting data. Not worth my money!

[Frederick]

xxx

[Johnston]

If you start to understand how it works, it doesnt conflict anymore. ;)Ah, like astrology and numerology...:thumb001:

[Frederick]

xxx

[Johnston]

You must be more open minded.

This is an quiet old visualisation of a Eurogenes run:
Made by the project leader himself
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6561/pic3xt.jpg

And this another one (relatively new):
made by some member, using the result data
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/5161/18079440.jpg
(if you wonder why my "X" is so far east: 3 of my 4 GRandparents are from Prussia. And one great great grandmother is even from Lithuania)

Of course, its humans who decide what value has how much draft in what direction. (changing these, you actually change to overall proportions of the graphic)

But the overall impression is:
It correlates to geography and what is known by history and all that.Those clusters do not represent geography. They are actually rather distorted beyond belief.:rolleyes:

[Frederick]

Those clusters do not represent geography. They are actually rather distorted beyond belief.:rolleyes:

Really? Is that what you see?
This gives me some interesting informations about you. Your overall characteristic position and mental abilities. ;)

[Johnston]

Really? Is that what you see?
This gives me some interesting informations about you. Your overall characteristic position and mental abilities. ;)Why thank you for your insults.:coffee: If you wish to look at yourself through a petri dish, and make divinations as if it were entrails of some sacrificial animal, then why should I bother?

[Frederick]

Why thank you for your insults.:coffee: If you wish to look at yourself through a petri dish, and make divinations as if it were entrails of some sacrificial animal, then why should I bother?

No problem.

LEts make some more training.

This is a glas.
http://www.barartikel.ch/images/Borosilikat%20Miniatur%20glas%20490201.jpg

This is...
"johnston": It totaly does not resemble the other one, its totaly contradicting!"
OK, John...but its still a glas.
http://www.schorm.at/images/kat/whisky_glas_mehrweg.jpg

JOhn: Now, dont come me with that! Its totaly and absolutely something totaly different! there are riffles and all this!

Well John, but still its a glas.
http://www.ikea.com/de/de/images/products/pokal-glas__42748_PE137949_S4.jpg

[Humanophage]

Those all look like conflicting data. Not worth my money!
I don't quite see where the results are conflicting.

[Johnston]

I don't quite see where the results are conflicting.Every different test comes up with different results, because the parameters are different, meaning different categories exist. What is the right classification outline? Too many to choose from...:coffee:

[Humanophage]

Every different test comes up with different results, because the parameters are different, meaning different categories exist. What is the right classification outline? Too many to choose from...:coffee:
Your genome exists objectively (raw data), and it can be described in many ways (tools), using a variety of coordinates. The diversity of classification arises from the fact that the world can be divided across many lines, but it doesn't change the biological reality.

For example, Europe can be divided into Southern and Northern, and Western and Eastern. One tool uses N-S, another W-E. You find on one tool that you have 80% N elements, and on another that you have 80% W elements. Considering them, you conclude that you are mostly North-Western. Yet another tool divides Europe into Atlantic, Uralic, Balkan, Iberian. You score 70% on Atlantic - which says a similar thing to the N-S and W-E tools, but in different words. Some tools zoom in further to look at smaller regions, some provide very complex coordinates.

Using many different tools and measuring your genome on different factors, you can conclude as to its nature. Some tools are not precise, but a good way to see the merit of a tool is too look at how reasonably it describes the general relation between various nations. Dodecad and Eurogenes are both quite reasonable in this aspect.

[Kadu]

Playing around with the oracle program...


It's quite interesting that the most MENA chromossomes here correspond to Middle Eastern and African segments in Prof.McD's chromossome painting.

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o21/Kadu_album/Chromossomepainting-1.png


note: I choose the French Basques and the Mozabite for their isolation.






Chr 1

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "14.2074"


Admixture:

"79.7% French_Basque + 20.3% Saudis" "12.1738"



Chr 2

closest pop.

"French_Basque" "7.3552"


Admixture:

"94.5% French_Basque + 5.5% Thai" "4.7864"




Chr 3

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "5.5317"


Admixture:

"89.3% French_Basque + 10.7% Mozabite_H" "6.4663"




Chr 4

closest pop.

"French" "15.0621"


Admixture:


"79.7% French_Basque + 20.3% Saudis" "8.156"



Chr 5

closest pop.

"Spaniards" "6.851"


Admixture:


"93.7% French_Basque + 6.3% Mozabite_H" "4.6403"




Chr 6

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "8.9795"


Admixture:


"68.7% French_Basque + 31.3% Palestinian" "8.9145"




Chr 7

closest pop.

"Tuscan_H" "10.5433"


Admixture:


"66.9% French_Basque + 33.1% Palestinian" "3.6317"




Chr 8

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "13.3701"


Admixture:


"84.1% French_Basque + 15.9% Saudis" "4.7202"




Chr 9

closest pop.

"Spaniards" "6.6472"


Admixture:


"92.4% French_Basque + 7.6% Mozabite_H" "4.5216"





Chr 10

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "6.1778"


Admixture:


"90.7% French_Basque + 9.3% Mozabite_H" "6.7866"





Chr 11

closest pop.

"N_Italian_D" "13.4641"


Admixture:


"63.2% French_Basque + 36.8% Turkish_D" "11.3022"




Chr 12

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "4.7087"


Admixture:


"86.9% French_Basque + 13.1% Mozabite_H" "6.9508"





Chr 13

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "10.6544"



Admixture:


"74.8% French_Basque + 25.2% Yemenese" "7.4308"





Chr 14

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "15.8912"




Admixture:


"15.2% Mozabite + 84.8% TSI" "11.8635"






Chr 15

closest pop.

"North_Italian" "8.2135"



Admixture:


"57.1% French_Basque + 42.9% S_Italian_D" "6.3083"





Chr 16

closest pop.

"Sardinian" "18.0121"



Admixture:


"15.1% Mozabite + 84.9% Tuscan" "20.1251"





Chr 17

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "11.1998"



Admixture:


"18.5% Belorussian + 81.5% French_Basque" "5.4225"





Chr 18

closest pop.

"French_Basque" "9.1593"



Admixture:


"91.9% French_Basque + 8.1% Mozabite_H" "4.4645"




Chr 19

closest pop.

"O_Italian_D" "12.8235"



Admixture:


"17.2% Chuvashs_16 + 82.8% Tuscan" "8.3058"




Chr 20

closest pop.

"Sardinian" "6.7713"



Admixture:


"75% French_Basque + 25% Samaritians" "12.2127"





Chr 21

closest pop.

"French" "13.9238"



Admixture:


"50% French_Basque + 50% Irish_D" "9.8556"





Chr 22

closest pop.

"Portuguese_D" "17.3147"



Admixture:


"75.7% French_Basque + 24.3% Saudis" "10.4584"



Genome-wide


DodecadOracle(c(1.24, 41.69, 41.89, 0.61, 3.27, 0.01, 0, 0.63, 1.81, 3.34, 5.50, 0),mixedmode=T)


[1,] "17.4% Egyptans + 82.6% French_Basque" "5.2935"
[2,] "83.4% French_Basque + 16.6% Yemenese" "5.9582"
[3,] "82.3% French_Basque + 17.7% Palestinian" "6.0211"
[4,] "83% French_Basque + 17% Jordanians_19" "6.1969"
[5,] "82.8% French_Basque + 17.2% Lebanese" "6.3786"
[6,] "77.8% French_Basque + 22.2% Sephardic_Jews" "6.4303"
[7,] "15.6% Bedouin + 84.4% French_Basque" "6.4875"
[8,] "84% French_Basque + 16% Syrians" "6.8094"
[9,] "83.4% French_Basque + 16.6% Samaritians" "6.8172"
[10,] "88.8% French_Basque + 11.2% Mozabite_H" "7.0901"

[Graham]

Top population by chromosome, too damn Irish :D


"Norwegian_D" "13.5248"
"Cornwall_1KG" "5.0466"
"Irish_D" "9.3998"
"Dutch_D" "7.6135"
"Irish_D" "14.1981"
"Irish_D" "10.2298"
"Irish_D" "7.7156"
"Irish_D" "9.528"
"Irish_D" "7.4474"
"Irish_D" "13.965"
"Irish_D" "10.8825"
"Norwegian_D" "14.5978"
"Irish_D" "15.1635"
"Irish_D" "4.3421"
"French" "5.5427"
"Norwegian_D" "17.6212"
"Norwegian_D" "9.739"
"Irish_D" "13.9852"
"German_D" "10.6425"
"Irish_D" "5.4372"
"Argyll_1KG" "6.7412"
"Irish_D" "11.3448"

Chrom 15 I don't have any Uk cousins yet. Chrom 19 I share a large amount with a Shetlander.

[Humanophage]

Here are mine:

1 FIN 9.667
2 Mixed_Slav_D 11.6598
3 Russian_D 11.4167
4 Hungarians 15.1674
5 FIN 14.6391
6 Mixed_Slav_D 13.0183
7 Polish_D 5.3431
8 Russian_D 6.5072
9 Hungarians 9.6005
10 Polish_D 12.7041
11 FIN 9.2743
12 Finnish_D 10.4971
13 Finnish_D 11.8036
14 Hungarians 11.1875
15 German_D 17.2096
16 Slovenian 7.1437
17 Hungarians 11.6839
18 Mixed_Slav_D 8.6327
19 Mixed_Slav_D 8.2442
20 Finnish_D 10.6054
21 Mixed_Slav_D 18.1396
22 Russian_D 10.219Mixed_Slav_D = 5
Hungarian = 4
FIN = 3
Finnish_D = 3
Russian_D = 3
Polish_D = 2
Slovenian = 1
German_D = 1

With greater elaboration, since "Mixed Slavs" are a vague group, and FIN aren't strictly Finns.

1 [1,] FIN 9.667
[2,] German_D 15.2072
[3,] Swedish_D 17.9123
2 [1,] Mixed_Slav_D 11.6598
[2,] Russian_D 12.3579
[3,] Polish_D 14.3817
3 [1,] Russian_D 11.4167
[2,] Polish_D 12.1632
[3,] Russian 12.2554
4 [1,] Hungarians 15.1674
[2,] Slovenian 15.3872
[3,] German_D 20.8246
5 [1,] FIN 14.6391
[2,] Finnish_D 18.5119
[3,] Slovenian 19.647
6 [1,] Mixed_Slav_D 13.0183
[2,] Hungarians 14.1755
[3,] Polish_D 14.3841
7 [1,] Polish_D 5.3431
[2,] Mixed_Slav_D 6.896
[3,] Russian_D 12.79
8 [1,] Russian_D 6.5072
[2,] Mixed_Slav_D 8.2488
[3,] Russian 9.4432
9 [1,] Hungarians 9.6005
[2,] Polish_D 12.0513
[3,] Mixed_Slav_D 12.4813
10 [1,] Polish_D 12.7041
[2,] Mixed_Slav_D 14.2994
[3,] Hungarians 15.3044
11 [1,] FIN 9.2743
[2,] Finnish_D 15.7954
[3,] German_D 17.6308
12 [1,] Finnish_D 10.4971
[2,] FIN 13.3701
[3,] Polish_D 17.3516
13 [1,] Finnish_D 11.8036
[2,] Polish_D 15.7074
[3,] Mixed_Slav_D 16.0502
14 [1,] Hungarians 11.1875
[2,] Polish_D 13.1533
[3,] Slovenian 14.7009
15 [1,] German_D 17.2096
[2,] Swedish_D 17.5679
[3,] N._European 17.7019
16 [1,] Slovenian 7.1437
[2,] Hungarians 10.1812
[3,] German_D 12.4577
17 [1,] Hungarians 11.6839
[2,] Slovenian 13.8442
[3,] Balkans_D 15.031
18 [1,] Mixed_Slav_D 8.6327
[2,] Russian_D 8.6937
[3,] Polish_D 11.1193
19 [1,] Mixed_Slav_D 8.2442
[2,] Polish_D 9.2166
[3,] Russian_D 13.4264
20 [1,] Finnish_D 10.6054
[2,] FIN 16.6364
[3,] Russian 21.6142
21 [1,] Mixed_Slav_D 18.1396
[2,] Russian_D 19.6402
[3,] Belorussian 19.7919
22 [1,] Russian_D 10.219
[2,] Mixed_Slav_D 11.2899
[3,] Russian 11.7717
Mixed_Slav = 11
Polish_D = 11
Russian_D = 8
Hungarians = 7
FIN = 5
German_D = 5
Slovenian = 5
Finnish_D = 5
Russian = 4
Swedish_D = 2
Belorussian = 1
Balkans_D = 1
N. European = 1

And by admixture:

1. 34% Lithuanians + 66% Norwegian_D 5.6864
2. 15.1% Lezgins + 84.9% Russian_D 4.7664
3. 40.6% Belorussian + 59.4% Finnish_D 5.218
4. 47.3% French_D + 52.7% Russian 11.1491
5. 85.2% FIN + 14.8% Naidu 6.0881
6. 19.7% Makrani + 80.3% Polish_D 5.6076
7. 74% Belorussian + 26% French_D 2.9759
8. 7% Moroccans + 93% Russian_D 4.139
9. 25.5% French + 74.5% Mixed_Slav_D 1.8663
10. 45.7% French_D + 54.3% Lithuanian_D 4.9695
11. 75% Finnish_D + 25% French_Basque 6.2939
12. 59.6% Russian + 40.4% Swedish_D 4.4612
13. 12.5% Bedouin + 87.5% Finnish_D 6.3979
14. 57.7% Lithuanians + 42.3% Spaniards 3.3127
15. 20.1% Iranian_D + 79.9% Swedish_D 8.4196
16. 26% FIN + 74% Slovenian 2.4918
17. 68% Polish_D + 32% Stalskoe 4.161
18. 74.9% Lithuanians + 25.1% Urkarah 3.5821
19. 40.6% Lithuanian_D + 59.4% Slovenian 4.1395
20. 87.8% Finnish_D + 12.2% Lezgins 4.8784
21. 73.9% Belorussian + 26.1% Kurd 7.1304
22. 73.1% Lithuanians + 26.9% Urkarah 4.0947
(Stalskoe and Urkarah are Dagestani)

5 is the most amusing one.

[Transhumanist]

Genome-wide
DodecadOracle(c(1.24, 41.69, 41.89, 0.61, 3.27, 0.01, 0, 0.63, 1.81, 3.34, 5.50, 0),mixedmode=T)

[1,] "17.4% Egyptans + 82.6% French_Basque" "5.2935"
[2,] "83.4% French_Basque + 16.6% Yemenese" "5.9582"
[3,] "82.3% French_Basque + 17.7% Palestinian" "6.0211"
[4,] "83% French_Basque + 17% Jordanians_19" "6.1969"
[5,] "82.8% French_Basque + 17.2% Lebanese" "6.3786"
[6,] "77.8% French_Basque + 22.2% Sephardic_Jews" "6.4303"
[7,] "15.6% Bedouin + 84.4% French_Basque" "6.4875"
[8,] "84% French_Basque + 16% Syrians" "6.8094"
[9,] "83.4% French_Basque + 16.6% Samaritians" "6.8172"
[10,] "88.8% French_Basque + 11.2% Mozabite_H" "7.0901"

Are both your parents tested? I found that the Oracle results based on the average values of my mom and dad's v3 K=12 components were more in line with my known ancestry. The same can be applied to siblings. I am not sure if anyone has tested 4 grandparents, but this, in theory, would help refine the Oracle results even further for an individual. The benefits of having a larger sample size. The population averages are simply extensions of this. Helps to reduce the possible effects of ordinary individual variation. Assuming a relatively homogeneous population.

My top Oracle prediction, based on the average of my mom and dad's values:
[1,] "16.3% Georgians + 83.7% Iraq_Jews" "1.8684"

And, you can then try mapping the "mix," to see if you can make sense of it from a different perspective. The "X" marks the spot where other analyses have suggested my ancestral origins lie (McDonald, Population Finder, etc.). Tbilisi was used for the Georgian population, and Baghdad for the Iraqi Jewish population. As one or both of these locations may not accurately capture the average geographical origins of the two population samples in question, there is a degree of error which certainly must be allowed for. The arrows represent (at least in part) that potential error. And, given that the error appears to be one of latitude, rather than longitude, and the Georgian placement, north to south, does not leave much room for adjustment, I reckon the error lies with the placement of the Iraqi Jews. They are too far to the south. But, either way, it is certainly in the ballpark. If your top "mix" predictions are within a reasonable distance of one another, you can repeat this for as many mix combinations as there are, and then determine the average of these points.

[Kadu]

Are both your parents tested? I found that the Oracle results based on the average values of my mom and dad's v3 K=12 components were more in line with my known ancestry.


Unfortunately no. But tell me, aren't your results in line with your parents'? I would imagine yours half-way between theirs.




And, you can then try mapping the "mix," to see if you can make sense of it from a different perspective. The "X" marks the spot where other analyses have suggested my ancestral origins lie (McDonald, Population Finder, etc.). Tbilisi was used for the Georgian population, and Baghdad for the Iraqi Jewish population.


That's quite interesting, but do all the results for your mixed mode land on the same area?

[Transhumanist]

Unfortunately no. But tell me, aren't your results in line with your parents'? I would imagine yours half-way between theirs.

That's quite interesting, but do all the results for your mixed mode land on the same area?

I forgot the mix, but it was not as accurate as the mix estimates based on the average values for my mom and dad. Attempted to separate them by groups, as measured by the distances in the last column:

[1,] "16.3% Georgians + 83.7% Iraq_Jews" "1.8684"

[2,] "52% Armenians_16 + 48% Syrians" "2.5546"

[3,] "60.7% Armenian_D + 39.3% Syrians" "2.8424"
[4,] "28.9% Armenians_16 + 71.1% Iraq_Jews" "2.9975"

[5,] "36.2% Armenian_D + 63.8% Iraq_Jews" "3.3127"
[6,] "14.5% Adygei + 85.5% Iraq_Jews" "3.5776"

[7,] "86.6% Armenian_D + 13.4% Saudis" "3.8972"
[8,] "70.9% Armenians_16 + 29.1% Bedouin" "3.9327"
[9,] "78% Armenian_D + 22% Bedouin" "3.9953"
[10,] "27.3% Iranian_D + 72.7% Iraq_Jews" "4.0417"

To give you an idea why this can occur, and how combining values can help better approximate actual ancestry, we need only look at the difference in the "West Asian" component for my father and paternal uncle:

Father = 47.6
Uncle = 52.6

Assyrian_D = 50.6

It may not always fit so neatly, but I think you see what I am getting at. Results running Oracle at 47.6% or 52.6% "West Asian" will not be as consistent with results generated for the Assyrian population. This will be reflected in your predicted "mix" populations and percentages. And, for some, it may lead to some curious results. Combining values of two parents, or four grandparents, most likely will better capture one's ancestry in Oracle. At least, in my case, I have found it to be so.

[Pallantides]

My Dodecad DiY result:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/4680/graphdiy.png
East_European 14.18%
West_European 67.46%
Mediterranean 12.94%
Neo_African 0.00%
West_Asian 4.21%
South_Asian 0.00%
Northeast_Asian 1.20%
Southeast_Asian 0.00%
East_African 0.00%
Southwest_Asian 0.00%
Northwest_African 0.00%
Palaeo_African 0.00%

Oracle k=30 - (Diy admixture numbers)

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Swedish_D" "2.9154"
[2,] "Norwegian_D" "5.466"
[3,] "Irish_D" "14.691"
[4,] "British_Isles_D" "14.7678"
[5,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "15.6137"
[6,] "British_D" "15.6601"
[7,] "Kent_1KG" "15.744"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "15.9369"
[9,] "Cornwall_1KG" "16.3935"
[10,] "Orkney_1KG" "16.4908"
[11,] "Argyll_1KG" "16.5425"
[12,] "Orcadian" "16.9762"
[13,] "N._European" "17.4092"
[14,] "German_D" "17.8313"
[15,] "CEU" "19.157"
[16,] "FIN" "20.988"
[17,] "French" "28.186"
[18,] "French_D" "28.576"
[19,] "Slovenian" "31.2585"
[20,] "Finnish_D" "32.4088"
[21,] "Hungarians" "35.3837"
[22,] "French_Basque" "38.6373"
[23,] "Portuguese_D" "44.1965"
[24,] "Spaniards" "44.8551"
[25,] "Polish_D" "44.8623"
[26,] "Mixed_Slav_D" "45.8817"
[27,] "Spanish_D" "46.2449"
[28,] "IBS" "46.6222"
[29,] "N_Italian_D" "48.1533"
[30,] "Tuscan_H" "48.2326"

mixed mode

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "18.6% FIN + 81.4% Norwegian_D" "2.6886"
[2,] "12.8% Finnish_D + 87.2% Norwegian_D" "2.6993"
[3,] "4% FIN + 96% Swedish_D" "2.7842"
[4,] "2.1% Finnish_D + 97.9% Swedish_D" "2.8308"
[5,] "0.6% Lithuanian_D + 99.4% Swedish_D" "2.8931"
[6,] "0.6% Lithuanians + 99.4% Swedish_D" "2.8956"
[7,] "0.3% Russian + 99.7% Swedish_D" "2.9117"
[8,] "0% Russian_D + 100% Swedish_D" "2.9153"
[9,] "0% Belorussian + 100% Swedish_D" "2.9154"
[10,] "Swedish_D" "2.9154"

[Barreldriver]

My Results:

Original genomewide
10.27% East European
51.84% West European
26.91% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo African
8.75% West Asian
0.61% South Asian
0.01% Northeast Asian
0.23% Southeast Asian
0.00% East African
0.95% Southwest Asian
0.36% Northwest African
0.07% Paleo African

MDLP (Vadim Verenich’s mod) genomewide
11.04% Scandinavian
4.26% Volga Region
0.96% Altaic
34.10% Celto Germanic
15.54% Caucassian Anatolian
17.28% Balto Slavic
16.83% North Atlantic

BAT genomewide
60.09% Balkans
36.54% Anatolia
3.37% Turkic

[Barreldriver]

Charts:

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k438/ragnarok1227/DIYDodecadoriginal.jpg

http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k438/ragnarok1227/DodecadMDLP.jpg

[d3cimat3d]

44.83% Balkans
49.58% Anatolia
5.59% Turkic


Vadim's MDLP:

4.55% Scandinavian
5.30% Volga_Region
3.42% Altaic
14.49% Celto_Germanic
43.63% Caucassian_Anatolian
24.21% Balto_Slavic
4.40% North_Atlantic

[Quasimodem]

Some MDLP results from ABF for comparison:

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Scandinavian: 11.52
Volga Region: 4.66
Altaic: 1.29
Celto-Germanic: 35.01
Caucassian-Anatolian: 11.39
Balto-Slavic: 18.73
North Atlantic: 17.40

FINN #1 (NORTHERN OSTROBOTHNIA)
Scandinavian: 49.11
Volga Region: 5.74
Altaic: 3.20
Celto-Germanic: 13.72
Caucassian-Anatolian: 4.97
Balto-Slavic: 17.45
North Atlantic: 5.81

FINN #2
Scandinavian: 58.67
Volga Region: 8.38
Altaic: 4.57
Celto-Germanic: 7.53
Caucassian-Anatolian: 2.72
Balto-Slavic: 14.77
North Atlantic: 3.35

FINN #3 (Tavastian)
Scandinavian: 42.83
Volga Region: 8.04
Altaic: 3.46
Celto-Germanic: 14.46
Caucassian-Anatolian: 2.72
Balto-Slavic: 20.85
North Atlantic: 7.64

FINN #4
Scandinavian: 53.85
Volga Region: 7.61
Altaic: 4.59
Celto-Germanic: 11.10
Caucassian-Anatolian: 1.64
Balto-Slavic: 14.74
North Atlantic: 6.48

FINN #5 (Karelian)
Scandinavian: 55.09
Volga Region: 8.55
Altaic: 6.54
Celto-Germanic: 8.27
Caucassian-Anatolian: 1.97
Balto-Slavic: 13.51
North Atlantic: 6.07

GERMAN/SORB
Scandinavian: 11.29
Volga Region: 5.03
Altaic: 1.80
Celto-Germanic: 23.80
Caucassian-Anatolian: 12.07
Balto-Slavic: 34.81
North Atlantic: 11.20

GERMAN/DANISH/SWEDISH (Skane)/SWISS/ISLES
Scandinavian: 15.16
Volga Region: 4.05
Altaic: 0.25
Celto-Germanic: 33.06
Caucassian-Anatolian: 12.89
Balto-Slavic: 19.58
North Atlantic: 15.01

GREEK
Scandinavian: 0.10
Volga Region: 4.85
Altaic: 4.78
Celto-Germanic: 25.88
Caucassian-Anatolian: 42.07
Balto-Slavic: 13.71
North Atlantic: 6.84

NORWEGIAN #1 (Western Norway)
Scandinavian: 14.54
Volga Region: 6.05
Altaic: 1.63
Celto-Germanic: 34.27
Caucassian-Anatolian: 9.61
Balto-Slavic: 17.88
North Atlantic: 16.02

NORWEGIAN #2 (Western Norway)
Scandinavian: 15.96
Volga Region: 4.37
Altaic: 2.52
Celto-Germanic: 32.99
Caucassian-Anatolian: 9.10
Balto-Slavic: 19.27
North Atlantic: 15.79

NORWEGIAN #3 (Eastern Norway)
Scandinavian: 17.78
Volga Region: 4.78
Altaic: 2.68
Celto-Germanic: 31.40
Caucassian-Anatolian: 7.51
Balto-Slavic: 19.72
North Atlantic: 16.13

NORWEGIAN #4 (Eastern Norway)
Scandinavian: 15.04
Volga Region: 5.34
Altaic: 1.75
Celto-Germanic: 31.78
Caucassian-Anatolian: 10.17
Balto-Slavic: 20.29
North Atlantic: 15.62

NORWEGIAN #5 (Eastern Norway)
Scandinavian: 16.90
Volga Region: 6.58
Altaic: 2.75
Celto-Germanic: 32.75
Caucassian-Anatolian: 6.54
Balto-Slavic: 20.49
North Atlantic: 13.99

POLE #1 (Masovia, Pomerania, Volhynia)
Scandinavian: 7.13
Volga Region: 2.24
Altaic: 0.99
Celto-Germanic: 16.50
Caucassian-Anatolian: 9.76
Balto-Slavic: 54.15
North Atlantic: 9.24

POLE #2 (Southern Poland)
Scandinavian: 4.65
Volga Region: 3.42
Altaic: 0.00
Celto-Germanic: 16.70
Caucassian-Anatolian: 12.31
Balto-Slavic: 59.32
North Atlantic: 3.60

PORTUGUESE (Southern Portugal)
Scandinavian: 3.98
Volga Region: 2.16
Altaic: 3.09
Celto-Germanic: 34.62
Caucassian-Anatolian: 24.79
Balto-Slavic: 16.23
North Atlantic: 15.13

RUSSIAN (Russian Tver, Russian Moscow, Kuban Cossack, Don Cossack)
Scandinavian: 17.80
Volga Region: 9.69
Altaic: 1.5
Celto-Germanic: 17.68
Caucassian-Anatolian: 8.68
Balto-Slavic: 37.68
North Atlantic: 6.30

SICULO-NORMAN
Scandinavian: 7.61
Volga Region: 3.69
Altaic: 1.5
Celto-Germanic: 32.83
Caucassian-Anatolian: 23.21
Balto-Slavic: 16.77
North Atlantic: 14.39

SWEDE (Skane, Smaland, Blekinge)
Scandinavian: 15.00
Volga Region: 5.07
Altaic: 1.03
Celto-Germanic: 29.79
Caucassian-Anatolian: 10.98
Balto-Slavic: 23.16
North Atlantic: 14.97

SWEDE/FINN/GERMAN/ESTONIAN
Scandinavian: 25.20
Volga Region: 5.31
Altaic: 2.83
Celto-Germanic: 23.63
Caucassian-Anatolian: 9.73
Balto-Slavic: 21.09
North Atlantic: 12.21

[Pallantides]

DIY Dodecad 2.0

14.18% East_European
67.46% West_European
12.94% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo_African
4.20% West_Asian
0.01% South_Asian
1.19% Northeast_Asian
0.01% Southeast_Asian
0.00% East_African
0.01% Southwest_Asian
0.00% Northwest_African
0.00% Palaeo_African


BAT(Balkans-Anatolia-Turkic)

62.08% Balkans
32.10% Anatolia
5.82% Turkic


MDLP

16.90% Scandinavian
6.58% Volga_Region
2.75% Altaic
32.75% Celto_Germanic
6.53% Caucassian_Anatolian
20.49% Balto_Slavic
13.99% North_Atlantic

[Barreldriver]

Some MDLP results from ABF for comparison:

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Scandinavian: 11.52
Volga Region: 4.66
Altaic: 1.29
Celto-Germanic: 35.01
Caucassian-Anatolian: 11.39
Balto-Slavic: 18.73
North Atlantic: 17.40


My results seem most similar to this fellers.

[Steal]

Your genome exists objectively (raw data), and it can be described in many ways (tools), using a variety of coordinates. The diversity of classification arises from the fact that the world can be divided across many lines, but it doesn't change the biological reality.

For example, Europe can be divided into Southern and Northern, and Western and Eastern. One tool uses N-S, another W-E. You find on one tool that you have 80% N elements, and on another that you have 80% W elements. Considering them, you conclude that you are mostly North-Western. Yet another tool divides Europe into Atlantic, Uralic, Balkan, Iberian. You score 70% on Atlantic - which says a similar thing to the N-S and W-E tools, but in different words. Some tools zoom in further to look at smaller regions, some provide very complex coordinates.

Using many different tools and measuring your genome on different factors, you can conclude as to its nature. Some tools are not precise, but a good way to see the merit of a tool is too look at how reasonably it describes the general relation between various nations. Dodecad and Eurogenes are both quite reasonable in this aspect.

Not true. The tests many of them ARE conflicting. Take 23andme, dienekes, and polako's. On polako's tests the british islanders and scandinavians show almost no non northern european admixture. In dienekes test they show something like 20-30% non northern european admixture. That is pretty substantial if you ask me. 23andme labels almost every euro as 100% or 99%. Again SUBSTANIAL.

[Quasimodem]

Not true. The tests many of them ARE conflicting. Take 23andme, dienekes, and polako's. On polako's tests the british islanders and scandinavians show almost no non northern european admixture. In dienekes test they show something like 20-30% non northern european admixture. That is pretty substantial if you ask me. 23andme labels almost every euro as 100% or 99%. Again SUBSTANIAL.

That's because the allele frequencies for these same-name components are different, so they're in effect different guessed ancestral populations.

[Frederick]

Not true. The tests many of them ARE conflicting. Take 23andme, dienekes, and polako's. On polako's tests the british islanders and scandinavians show almost no non northern european admixture. In dienekes test they show something like 20-30% non northern european admixture. That is pretty substantial if you ask me. 23andme labels almost every euro as 100% or 99%. Again SUBSTANIAL.

Thats just different interpretation.
The "non-European admixture" that Dienekes or Eurogenes show is like 7.000 or 10.000 years old. Neolithic farmers DNA and all that.

Specially "West-Asian" could be interpreted as "Early farmer" aDNA.
Others claim, "West-Asian" admixture would be the "Indoeuropean" one (Caucasus/Anatolian Indoeuropean origin hyphothesis)

One needs to alter ones views on these "Non-European" components.
All Europeans somehow came from outside of Europe and its totaly normal, that they carry DNA material that exists outside of Europe or even has its distributional center outside of Europe.

[Frederick]

Since they are covered deeply in this thread I repost the maps of the dienekes components I made:

Red = no other component is higher that this one.
thats why Hungary is red in "West European" but Spain is not.
Its because in Hungary, "Westeuropean" is the largest component while in Spain its "Mediteranean".

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12049&d=1309955735


If you ask: "DOH! Why are those Orkneys so Eastern Europen?"
Answere: Because they have Norwegian VIKING admixture ;)

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12050&d=1309955735

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12051&d=1309955735

The component some claim as "Farmers DNA" or even "Indoeuropean DNA" if it comes to Europe....
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12052&d=1309955735

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12053&d=1309955735

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12054&d=1309955735

And I add some, wich I seem to not have uploaded last time?

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14711&stc=1&d=1315344931

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14712&stc=1&d=1315345072

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14713&stc=1&d=1315345239

[Scrapple]

Not true. The tests many of them ARE conflicting. Take 23andme, dienekes, and polako's. On polako's tests the british islanders and scandinavians show almost no non northern european admixture. In dienekes test they show something like 20-30% non northern european admixture. That is pretty substantial if you ask me. 23andme labels almost every euro as 100% or 99%. Again SUBSTANIAL.

That is the problem with labelling allele frequencies geographically, the person doing the test chooses the labels.

[Amapola]

Per chromosome:

[1,] "Portuguese_D" "5.1126"
[2,] "IBS" "6.24"
[3,] "Spaniards" "6.605"
[4,] "Spanish_D" "7.0589"
[5,] "N_Italian_D" "11.5477"
[6,] "North_Italian" "12.0684"
[7,] "French_Basque" "14.9499"
[8,] "Sardinian" "15.8149"
[9,] "French_D" "16.2501"
[10,] "French" "16.7247"
[11,] "Tuscan_H" "17.4539"
[12,] "TSI" "17.7588"
[13,] "Tuscan_X" "18.385"
[14,] "Tuscan" "18.9673"
[15,] "O_Italian_D" "19.4393"
[16,] "C_Italian_D" "25.2012"
[17,] "CEU" "25.8471"
[18,] "Orcadian" "27.7598"
[19,] "N._European" "27.7935"
[20,] "Orkney_1KG" "28.1339"
[21,] "Argyll_1KG" "28.5554"
[22,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "30.0512"
[23,] "Dutch_D" "30.3059"
[24,] "Slovenian" "30.4614"
[25,] "German_D" "30.5844"
[26,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "30.5883"
[27,] "Ashkenazi_D" "30.6159"
[28,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "31.515"
[29,] "Kent_1KG" "31.8929"
[30,] "Sicilian_D" "32.5025"

Nice variation.

[Barreldriver]

Curious with the DIY Dodecad what's the gauge to indicate relatively recent admix with the percentages? Still trying to interpret my results in the context of my genealogy so any help would be appreciated.

[Frederick]

Curious with the DIY Dodecad what's the gauge to indicate relatively recent admix with the percentages? Still trying to interpret my results in the context of my genealogy so any help would be appreciated.

In that case, I would run the results in "Oracle". Thats another "R" based software by Dienekes with 2 major functions:
- what populations average results are the most similiar to ones own.
- if mathematically "mixing" 2 nations average results, what combination comes closest to ones results.

Plus I would additional look in 23andMe what people you share long segments with (other than the "expected" own group... (that theory that long segments of shared DNA are a sign of beeing "recently" (last couple centuries maybe) related and not just having the same DNA by random re-combining. This would help to pick, what suggested combinations of "Oracle" may be likely, if there is no "Family Lore".

I for example, have 3 out of 4 Grandparents from "Prussia" (beeing from there, mixing with Poles is likely) and one Great Great Grandparent from Lithuania.

In fact 23andMe finds quiet a lot Poles in the 5-7cM region, suggesting "recent" (last couple century) shared anchestors. Of course, nobody knows WHAT anchestors I may share with them. Maybe they had German ones. Who knows. But you need something to start with. ;)

"Oracle" suggests that my results are close to what is expected from 95% average German mixed by 5% average Pole.
Or same with Lithuanian.

[Barreldriver]

In that case, I would run the results in "Oracle". Thats another "R" based software by Dienekes with 2 major functions:
- what populations average results are the most similiar to ones own.
- if mathematically "mixing" 2 nations average results, what combination comes closest to ones results.

Plus I would additional look in 23andMe what people you share long segments with (other than the "expected" own group... (that theory that long segments of shared DNA are a sign of beeing "recently" (last couple centuries maybe) related and not just having the same DNA by random re-combining. This would help to pick, what suggested combinations of "Oracle" may be likely, if there is no "Family Lore".

I for example, have 3 out of 4 Grandparents from "Prussia" (beeing from there, mixing with Poles is likely) and one Great Great Grandparent from Lithuania.

In fact 23andMe finds quiet a lot Poles in the 5-7cM region, suggesting "recent" (last couple century) shared anchestors. Of course, nobody knows WHAT anchestors I may share with them. Maybe they had German ones. Who knows. But you need something to start with. ;)

"Oracle" suggests that my results are close to what is expected from 95% average German mixed by 5% average Pole.
Or same with Lithuanian.

I'd assume there's a link to oracle at Dienekes blog? Will give it a wing some time.

[Frederick]

I tried it for you. (All one needs is the DIY Dodecad results)

By Oracle, these are the closest populations:

(so more small the number behind it, so more close the results)
Barreldriver

[1,] "CEU" "2.9717" <--------- white American of predominantly North-West European anchestry
[2,] "N._European" "5.0694" (a group with "Northern Europeans" not closer defined what people exactly)
[3,] "Orcadian" "5.2101"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "5.391" (South-West-Scottland)
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "5.6548"
[6,] "German_D" "8.5726"
[7,] "French" "9.6303"
[8,] "French_D" "10.0577"
[9,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "10.6703" (people of mixed background, but all known anchestors of Germanic speaking parts of Europe)
[10,] "Dutch_D" "11.7807"
[11,] "Kent_1KG" "14.129" (South-East England)
[12,] "British_Isles_D" "16.2479"
[13,] "British_D" "16.2505"
[14,] "Cornwall_1KG" "16.8781" (South-West England)
[15,] "Slovenian" "17.4146"
[16,] "Irish_D" "19.6356"
[17,] "Swedish_D" "20.1689"
[18,] "Norwegian_D" "20.9766"
[19,] "Hungarians" "21.9821"
[20,] "French_Basque" "22.4489"
[21,] "Portuguese_D" "24.3769"
[22,] "Spaniards" "25.2005"
[23,] "N_Italian_D" "26.3565"
[24,] "Spanish_D" "26.5371"
[25,] "IBS" "26.6198"
[26,] "Tuscan_H" "27.2357"
[27,] "TSI" "27.2763"
[28,] "Tuscan_X" "27.6064"
[29,] "FIN" "29.219"
[30,] "North_Italian" "30.4805"

Just for comparation the results of "Average CEU". to help you, what to think about the results above:

[1,] "CEU" "0"
[2,] "Orcadian" "2.4839"
[3,] "Orkney_1KG" "2.924"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "2.9614"
[5,] "N._European" "3.3347"
[6,] "German_D" "6.9361"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "9.3862"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "10.3315"
[9,] "French" "11.1736"
[10,] "French_D" "11.4066"

Thats the top 10 suggestion for 2 nation mixedmode:
As always: so more small the number at the end of the line is, so more close are the results)

And note how the tool is named: ORACLE. ;)
It needs you to interpret this and pick what you guess is the most likely. :D

Another note: It only expects TWO nation mixes. Thats another weak point.

[1,] "90.4% Orcadian + 9.6% S_Italian_D" "0.4005"
[2,] "89.7% Orkney_1KG + 10.3% S_Italian_D" "0.4049"
[3,] "12.5% C_Italian_D + 87.5% Orkney_1KG" "0.4141"
[4,] "90.1% Orcadian + 9.9% Sicilian_D" "0.4439"
[5,] "89.7% Orcadian + 10.3% S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "0.4723"
[6,] "89.3% Orkney_1KG + 10.7% Sicilian_D" "0.4816"
[7,] "11.7% C_Italian_D + 88.3% Orcadian" "0.4921"
[8,] "14.5% O_Italian_D + 85.5% Orkney_1KG" "0.5639"
[9,] "13.5% O_Italian_D + 86.5% Orcadian" "0.5794"
[10,] "84.2% Orcadian + 15.8% Tuscan_X" "0.5924"

Here are some "aberations" from the average CEU:

[14,] "90.4% CEU + 9.6% TSI" "0.714"
[18,] "92% CEU + 8% O_Italian_D" "0.795"
[20,] "90.6% CEU + 9.4% Tuscan_X" "0.8094"
[27,] "94.4% CEU + 5.6% Sicilian_D" "0.9574"
[31,] "95.7% CEU + 4.3% Cypriots" "1.028"
[36,] "94.9% CEU + 5.1% Sephardic_Jews" "1.0779"
[39,] "94.3% CEU + 5.7% Greek_D" "1.1763"
[48,] "95.5% CEU + 4.5% Turkish_D" "1.3667"

some British Isles aberations:

[50,] "11.7% C_Italian_D + 88.3% Argyll_1KG" "1.3712"
[60,] "30% Balkans_D + 70% Kent_1KG" "1.5231"
[70,] "33.9% Balkans_D + 66.1% Cornwall_1KG" "1.6006"
[75,] "67.6% British_Isles_D + 32.4% Romanians_14" "1.6621"

Maybe its just this:
[134,] "46.9% French + 53.1% German_D" "2.3392"
[135,] "83.6% CEU + 16.4% French" "2.3399"
[145,] "5% Balkans_D + 95% CEU" "2.4219"

[Imperivm]

If anyone is feeling like being a very helpful chap - could they please run all these tests with my DOD scores? I'm DOD726.

I can't run any of the tests on my mac because it's not compatible. Although, I ran DiY 2.0, and got similar scores to everyone else.

It will be much appreciated, and met with hugs and kisses. :p

[Kadu]

If anyone is feeling like being a very helpful chap - could they please run all these tests with my DOD scores? I'm DOD726.

I can't run any of the tests on my mac because it's not compatible. Although, I ran DiY 2.0, and got similar scores to everyone else.


Well if you're talking about the Dodecad oracle, which is what Frederick used to compute Barrel's admixture combinations, then you can run it on your mac.


Just follow the instructions here (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/07/dodecad-oracle-v1.html)

[Barreldriver]

I tried it for you. (All one needs is the DIY Dodecad results)

By Oracle, these are the closest populations:

(so more small the number behind it, so more close the results)
Barreldriver

[1,] "CEU" "2.9717" <--------- white American of predominantly North-West European anchestry
[2,] "N._European" "5.0694" (a group with "Northern Europeans" not closer defined what people exactly)
[3,] "Orcadian" "5.2101"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "5.391" (South-West-Scottland)
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "5.6548"
[6,] "German_D" "8.5726"
[7,] "French" "9.6303"
[8,] "French_D" "10.0577"
[9,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "10.6703" (people of mixed background, but all known anchestors of Germanic speaking parts of Europe)
[10,] "Dutch_D" "11.7807"
[11,] "Kent_1KG" "14.129" (South-East England)
[12,] "British_Isles_D" "16.2479"
[13,] "British_D" "16.2505"
[14,] "Cornwall_1KG" "16.8781" (South-West England)
[15,] "Slovenian" "17.4146"
[16,] "Irish_D" "19.6356"
[17,] "Swedish_D" "20.1689"
[18,] "Norwegian_D" "20.9766"
[19,] "Hungarians" "21.9821"
[20,] "French_Basque" "22.4489"
[21,] "Portuguese_D" "24.3769"
[22,] "Spaniards" "25.2005"
[23,] "N_Italian_D" "26.3565"
[24,] "Spanish_D" "26.5371"
[25,] "IBS" "26.6198"
[26,] "Tuscan_H" "27.2357"
[27,] "TSI" "27.2763"
[28,] "Tuscan_X" "27.6064"
[29,] "FIN" "29.219"
[30,] "North_Italian" "30.4805"

Just for comparation the results of "Average CEU". to help you, what to think about the results above:

[1,] "CEU" "0"
[2,] "Orcadian" "2.4839"
[3,] "Orkney_1KG" "2.924"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "2.9614"
[5,] "N._European" "3.3347"
[6,] "German_D" "6.9361"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "9.3862"
[8,] "Dutch_D" "10.3315"
[9,] "French" "11.1736"
[10,] "French_D" "11.4066"

Cool, figured I'd be closest to the Utahn's and such than to Old Worlder's as many Utahn's have Southron roots aways back (via Arkansas).



And note how the tool is named: ORACLE. ;)
It needs you to interpret this and pick what you guess is the most likely. :D

Another note: It only expects TWO nation mixes. Thats another weak point.

[1,] "90.4% Orcadian + 9.6% S_Italian_D" "0.4005"
[2,] "89.7% Orkney_1KG + 10.3% S_Italian_D" "0.4049"
[3,] "12.5% C_Italian_D + 87.5% Orkney_1KG" "0.4141"
[4,] "90.1% Orcadian + 9.9% Sicilian_D" "0.4439"
[5,] "89.7% Orcadian + 10.3% S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "0.4723"
[6,] "89.3% Orkney_1KG + 10.7% Sicilian_D" "0.4816"
[7,] "11.7% C_Italian_D + 88.3% Orcadian" "0.4921"
[8,] "14.5% O_Italian_D + 85.5% Orkney_1KG" "0.5639"
[9,] "13.5% O_Italian_D + 86.5% Orcadian" "0.5794"
[10,] "84.2% Orcadian + 15.8% Tuscan_X" "0.5924"

Of these it's hard to guess since they're all so similar, if it's any help about 60% of my ancestors came from the British Isle's, the remaining 40% or so is split between German, Portuguese and French along with some completely unknown ancestries. These figures change all depending on the status of my pedigree research, future changes shan't change much in the lines of the British Isles figure is pretty much a constant.


Here are some "aberations" from the average CEU:

[14,] "90.4% CEU + 9.6% TSI" "0.714"
[18,] "92% CEU + 8% O_Italian_D" "0.795"
[20,] "90.6% CEU + 9.4% Tuscan_X" "0.8094"
[27,] "94.4% CEU + 5.6% Sicilian_D" "0.9574"
[31,] "95.7% CEU + 4.3% Cypriots" "1.028"
[36,] "94.9% CEU + 5.1% Sephardic_Jews" "1.0779"
[39,] "94.3% CEU + 5.7% Greek_D" "1.1763"
[48,] "95.5% CEU + 4.5% Turkish_D" "1.3667"

some British Isles aberations:

[50,] "11.7% C_Italian_D + 88.3% Argyll_1KG" "1.3712"
[60,] "30% Balkans_D + 70% Kent_1KG" "1.5231"
[70,] "33.9% Balkans_D + 66.1% Cornwall_1KG" "1.6006"
[75,] "67.6% British_Isles_D + 32.4% Romanians_14" "1.6621"

Maybe its just this:
[134,] "46.9% French + 53.1% German_D" "2.3392"
[135,] "83.6% CEU + 16.4% French" "2.3399"
[145,] "5% Balkans_D + 95% CEU" "2.4219"

I'd assume that these are not results for me but results for the CEU and Brits respectively and how they differ from their norm or is this how I differ from those groups?

[Frederick]

I'd assume that these are not results for me but results for the CEU and Brits respectively and how they differ from their norm or is this how I differ from those groups?

No, its for you.
The rough message is, that you are more Med/southern Euro than the average Uthan (CEU)

Thats why it wants to mix the average Utahn with a little bit French, Italian, Greek, Jewish or Turk to match your values.

Same for the Brit aberation. It wants to mix Brits with either Italians, Balkans (highly Med) or Romanians to re-create your results.

And the last section I posted shows, beeing half German half French could cause results like yours too.

Well, you could also look at the numbers that show how close.
And they too say, more med than average.

Like this:

Difference you and Scott: 5.391
Difference average CEU(Utahn) and Scott: 2.9614

You differ more from a Scott than the average Utahn.

Also for Germans.
You: 8.5726
Utahn: 6.9361

Or Dutch:
you: 11.7807
average Utahn: 10.3315

But different for French!
You: 9.6303
Average utahn: 11.1736
Means, you are closer to French than the average Utahn (CEU)

And after you said, you have Spanish and Portuguese ancestors, I would say, they seem to explain it.

Let me look for a British Isles, Iberian try.

Hmm. Needs some deep digging and the results are quiet off then (9.5 as difference....) But Here are some:

[1911,] "68.2% Kent_1KG + 31.8% Portuguese_D" "9.5034"

Hmm... The Scott one is closer. In the 2.x range :
[120,] "15.6% IBS + 84.4% Argyll_1KG" "2.2321"
IBS = a lot of Iberian profiles lumped together)

[130,] "16.7% Portuguese_D + 83.3% Argyll_1KG" "2.3126"
[140,] "15.4% Spanish_D + 84.6% Argyll_1KG" "2.405"

*searches reverse for "IBS"....*
[102,] "92.7% CEU + 7.3% IBS" "2.1126"
[141,] "14.4% IBS + 85.6% N._European" "2.4107"
[374,] "13.2% IBS + 86.8% Orcadian" "3.3174"
[699,] "78.9% German_D + 21.1% IBS" "4.9647"

Just in case, you want to see the Iberia-Scandinavia axis:
[1228,] "42.5% IBS + 57.5% Swedish_D" "6.4018"

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Ok, I check the results by hand now....
I see.
You have increased (compared to the most of the British Isles) Eastern European, Mediterranean and West Asian. Thats why it looks so much for Southeast Europeans (Italians, Balkans, Greece etc), to explain all 3 with a single admixture event.

And it also explains why it prefers Scotts or Orkneys on the other end (elevated Eastern European level)

[Barreldriver]

No, its for you.
The rough message is, that you are more Med/southern Euro than the average Uthan (CEU)

Thats why it wants to mix the average Utahn with a little bit French, Italian, Greek, Jewish or Turk to match your values.

Same for the Brit aberation. It wants to mix Brits with either Italians, Balkans (highly Med) or Romanians to re-create your results.

And the last section I posted shows, beeing half German half French could cause results like yours too.

Well, you could also look at the numbers that show how close.
And they too say, more med than average.

Like this:

Difference you and Scott: 5.391
Difference average CEU(Utahn) and Scott: 2.9614

You differ more from a Scott than the average Utahn.

Also for Germans.
You: 8.5726
Utahn: 6.9361

Or Dutch:
you: 11.7807
average Utahn: 10.3315

But different for French!
You: 9.6303
Average utahn: 11.1736
Means, you are closer to French than the average Utahn (CEU)

And after you said, you have Spanish and Portuguese ancestors, I would say, they seem to explain it.

Let me look for a British Isles, Iberian try.

Hmm. Needs some deep digging and the results are quiet off then (9.5 as difference....) But Here are some:

[1911,] "68.2% Kent_1KG + 31.8% Portuguese_D" "9.5034"

Hmm... The Scott one is closer. In the 2.x range :
[120,] "15.6% IBS + 84.4% Argyll_1KG" "2.2321"
IBS = a lot of Iberian profiles lumped together)

[130,] "16.7% Portuguese_D + 83.3% Argyll_1KG" "2.3126"
[140,] "15.4% Spanish_D + 84.6% Argyll_1KG" "2.405"

*searches reverse for "IBS"....*
[102,] "92.7% CEU + 7.3% IBS" "2.1126"
[141,] "14.4% IBS + 85.6% N._European" "2.4107"
[374,] "13.2% IBS + 86.8% Orcadian" "3.3174"
[699,] "78.9% German_D + 21.1% IBS" "4.9647"

Just in case, you want to see the Iberia-Scandinavia axis:
[1228,] "42.5% IBS + 57.5% Swedish_D" "6.4018"

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Ok, I check the results by hand now....
I see.
You have increased (compared to the most of the British Isles) Eastern European, Mediterranean and West Asian. Thats why it looks so much for Southeast Europeans (Italians, Balkans, Greece etc), to explain all 3 with a single admixture event.

And it also explains why it prefers Scotts or Orkneys on the other end (elevated Eastern European level)

Curious what could be causing the increased East European and west Asian? The increased Med is obvious from distant Iberian and French ancestry I'd assume.

[Barreldriver]

One thing I'm looking for is a possible connection to chestnut Ridge like folks after realizing that the Chestnut Ridge folks were from Barbour County, Barbour County is adjacent to Taylor and Preston Counties as is Monongalia County which borders with Wetzel County. My great grandfather and his parents+siblings moved between Wetzel and Monongalia Counties so they're in a similar locality as the Chestnut Ridge folks.

That part of my family tree has some holes in it that need filled.

[Scrapple]

Curious what could be causing the increased East European and west Asian? The increased Med is obvious from distant Iberian and French ancestry I'd assume.

Do you know from where in Germany your ancestors are from? I have more German ancestry than the average American (PA Dutch) and my E Euro is in the lower 20% range, my W Asian in 8%. If they are from the more Eastern Parts of Germany that could account for your higher E Euro.

[Barreldriver]

Do you know from where in Germany your ancestors are from? I have more German ancestry than the average American (PA Dutch) and my E Euro is in the lower 20% range, my W Asian in 8%. If they are from the more Eastern Parts of Germany that could account for your higher E Euro.

Most are from the SW, but there's some that are suspect of having Eastern German and Austrian roots based on some surnames can't really confirm as these were usually later immigrants that just listed their birthplace as "Germany" on record.

[Frederick]

Curious what could be causing the increased East European and west Asian? The increased Med is obvious from distant Iberian ancestry I'd assume.

East European could be increased by Scotts, Scandinavians, Germans. For example.

Or by actual Eastern Europeans.

You are about as "Eastern European" as a Scott or Norwegian (Wich is actually 4 times as Eastern European as other British Isles inhabitants are. But not as Eastern European as a Swede or German for example.

the West Asian is so little higher than British or German levels, that I wouldnt even think about it. (average is 7% and you have 8.x%)... means: BLA ;) But Oracle still trys to come as close to your result as possible and that means, it looks for a source that actually provides West Asian too.

Looking at the map, Dutch even have 8% on average. But Dutch arent picked as source for that, because they dont provide high level of Eastern European or Med. Thats again the tricky thing. A simple tool like Oracle wants to explain ALL the aberation with ONE admixture event. But thats usualy far from reality, specially for Americans I think.

[Barreldriver]

East European could be increased by Scotts, Scandinavians, Germans. For example.

Or by actual Eastern Europeans.

You are about as "Eastern European" as a Scott or Norwegian (Wich is actually 4 times as Eastern European as other British Isles inhabitants are. But not as Eastern European as a Swede or German for example.

the West Asian is so little higher than British or German levels, that I wouldnt even think about it. (average is 7% and you have 8.x%)... means: BLA ;) But Oracle still trys to come as close to your result as possible and that means, it looks for a source that actually provides West Asian too.

Looking at the map, Dutch even have 8% on average. But Dutch arent picked as source for that, because they dont provide high level of Eastern European or Med. Thats again the tricky thing. A simple tool like Oracle wants to explain ALL the aberation with ONE admixture event. But thats usualy far from reality, specially for Americans I think.

Cool, so it is indeed my Scots and German connections, I do have a genetic "cousin" on 23andMe that is Swedish so that may be hinting something too, also some Russian Relative Finder matches (caught me by surprise).

If there is a true East European connection I would have to attribute that to coal miners as in the South of my home county coal mining is a big part of the economy as well as the parts of Kentucky near to my home county.

[Imperivm]

Well if you're talking about the Dodecad oracle, which is what Frederick used to compute Barrel's admixture combinations, then you can run it on your mac.


Just follow the instructions here (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/07/dodecad-oracle-v1.html)

It's not working for me I'm afraid. I don't think it's compatible with the latest version of mac. I even installed the updates that should patch things properly.

If anyone feels like running it for me my scores are-

(3.4, 63.1, 26.5, 0, 6.9, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.1, 0) :embarrassed

[Kadu]

(3.4, 63.1, 26.5, 0, 6.9, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0.1, 0) :embarrassed


[1,] "Kent_1KG" "3.3226"
[2,] "Dutch_D" "3.9674"
[3,] "British_D" "4.6808"
[4,] "Cornwall_1KG" "5.02"
[5,] "British_Isles_D" "5.0229"
[6,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "6.5894"
[7,] "Irish_D" "8.2195"
[8,] "Orkney_1KG" "10.3716"
[9,] "Orcadian" "10.557"
[10,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.584"
[11,] "CEU" "12.131"
[12,] "N._European" "12.4169"
[13,] "French" "13.4034"
[14,] "French_D" "14.462"
[15,] "Norwegian_D" "14.5942"
[16,] "Swedish_D" "16.6445"
[17,] "German_D" "17.6717"
[18,] "French_Basque" "22.8961"
[19,] "Spaniards" "30.0125"
[20,] "Slovenian" "30.3457"



[1,] "11.9% French_Basque + 88.1% Kent_1KG" "1.2398"
[2,] "82.9% British_Isles_D + 17.1% French_Basque" "1.7166"
[3,] "86.5% British_Isles_D + 13.5% Spaniards" "1.8262"
[4,] "91.6% Kent_1KG + 8.4% Spaniards" "1.8832"
[5,] "87.2% British_Isles_D + 12.8% Spanish_D" "1.9203"
[6,] "92.1% Kent_1KG + 7.9% Spanish_D" "1.9281"
[7,] "87.4% British_Isles_D + 12.6% IBS" "1.9441"
[8,] "7.6% IBS + 92.4% Kent_1KG" "1.9916"
[9,] "89.3% British_Isles_D + 10.7% North_Italian" "2.03"
[10,] "74.3% British_Isles_D + 25.7% French" "2.0403"
[11,] "84.4% British_D + 15.6% French_Basque" "2.0569"
[12,] "75.9% Cornwall_1KG + 24.1% French_D" "2.1132"
[13,] "75.9% British_Isles_D + 24.1% French_D" "2.138"
[14,] "87.8% British_D + 12.2% Spaniards" "2.1517"
[15,] "76.1% British_D + 23.9% French" "2.1521"
[16,] "77.5% British_D + 22.5% French_D" "2.1782"
[17,] "94.7% Kent_1KG + 5.3% Sardinian" "2.1938"
[18,] "88.5% British_D + 11.5% Spanish_D" "2.1976"
[19,] "90.3% British_D + 9.7% North_Italian" "2.1981"
[20,] "14.8% French_D + 85.2% Kent_1KG" "2.1989"

[Imperivm]

^^ Yet another test where I come closer to the Dutch than the British! :icon_ask:

[Kadu]

^^ Yet another test where I come closer to the Dutch than the British! :icon_ask:


As I told you before, you have to drop the "W", embrace your Saxon blood.:D

[Loki]

^^ Yet another test where I come closer to the Dutch than the British! :icon_ask:

Well, you are closest to the Kentishmen (and so am I by the way!). :) So yes - as Kadu suggested - you are probably more Anglo-Saxon than average (well, the Jutes settled in Kent anyway).

[Imperivm]

Well, you are closest to the Kentishmen (and so am I by the way!). :) So yes - as Kadu suggested - you are probably more Anglo-Saxon than average (well, the Jutes settled in Kent anyway).

It surprises me because my phenotype is atlantid and my farther looks like a typical 'Old Briton' mediterranid. However, my mother is very North European looking, and her parents are from the North of England. I expect that she would score very close to the Dutch/Kent groups.

[Frederick]

It surprises me because my phenotype is atlantid and my farther looks like a typical 'Old Briton' mediterranid. However, my mother is very North European looking, and her parents are from the North of England. I expect that she would score very close to the Dutch/Kent groups.

I expect the mutations that cause a phenotypical look beeing quiet few.
But you could also blame your estaminated Iberian admixture ;)


[1,] "11.9% French_Basque + 88.1% Kent_1KG" "1.2398"
[2,] "82.9% British_Isles_D + 17.1% French_Basque" "1.7166"
[3,] "86.5% British_Isles_D + 13.5% Spaniards" "1.8262"
[4,] "91.6% Kent_1KG + 8.4% Spaniards" "1.8832"
[5,] "87.2% British_Isles_D + 12.8% Spanish_D" "1.9203"
[6,] "92.1% Kent_1KG + 7.9% Spanish_D" "1.9281"

[Frederick]

Here is Loki (this time inlcuding the "Mixed mode"):

[1,] "CEU" "10.1005"
[2,] "N._European" "10.9398"
[3,] "German_D" "11.3309"
[4,] "Slovenian" "11.9122"
[5,] "Argyll_1KG" "11.9445"
[6,] "Orcadian" "12.3891"
[7,] "Orkney_1KG" "12.7934"
[8,] "French" "13.9101"
[9,] "French_D" "14.0915"
[10,] "Hungarians" "16.5795"
[11,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "17.4161"
[12,] "Dutch_D" "19.0431"
[13,] "Kent_1KG" "21.4299"
[14,] "Tuscan_H" "22.0259"
[15,] "TSI" "22.1499"
[16,] "Tuscan_X" "22.1504"
[17,] "N_Italian_D" "22.5493"
[18,] "Portuguese_D" "23.4017"
[19,] "British_D" "23.5064"
[20,] "British_Isles_D" "23.5323"

And the mixed Mode:
(note how all of these are even far closer than "average CEU" (wich is the closest single population), wich has a difference of 10.1)

[1,] "49.8% Irish_D + 50.2% Romanians_14" "2.5352"
[2,] "53.1% British_Isles_D + 46.9% Romanians_14" "2.5396"
[3,] "53.1% British_D + 46.9% Romanians_14" "2.5474"
[4,] "58.4% Dutch_D + 41.6% Romanians_14" "2.6267"
[5,] "55.4% Kent_1KG + 44.6% Romanians_14" "2.6919"
[6,] "52.5% Cornwall_1KG + 47.5% Romanians_14" "2.7072"
[7,] "60.6% Mixed_Germanic_D + 39.4% Romanians_14" "2.729"
[8,] "21.3% Greek_D + 78.7% N._European" "2.9889"
[9,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% Tuscan_X" "2.9932"
[10,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% TSI" "3.0231"
[11,] "71.8% German_D + 28.2% O_Italian_D" "3.0621"
[12,] "22.8% Greek_D + 77.2% Argyll_1KG" "3.18"
[13,] "24.4% C_Italian_D + 75.6% German_D" "3.2441"
[14,] "79.8% German_D + 20.2% S_Italian_D" "3.2901"
[15,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% Tuscan_H" "3.3168"
[16,] "48% Balkans_D + 52% Cornwall_1KG" "3.3483"
[17,] "28.3% Romanians_14 + 71.7% N._European" "3.3483"
[18,] "78.4% German_D + 21.6% S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "3.3586"
[19,] "42.1% Balkans_D + 57.9% Dutch_D" "3.5152"
[20,] "79.2% German_D + 20.8% Sicilian_D" "3.5291"

OK, since "CEU" is the closest single population, lets see, whats the difference is, to CEU average:

[21,] "73.6% CEU + 26.4% Romanians_14" "3.555"
[26,] "80.5% CEU + 19.5% Greek_D" "3.6377"
[29,] "84% CEU + 16% Turkish_D" "3.7811"
[38,] "85.6% CEU + 14.4% Cypriots" "3.998"

Second closest single population is "N.European" wich is a group from a scientific study and includes... well "Northern Europeans". But I never actually saw a list, from what countries.

[8,] "21.3% Greek_D + 78.7% N._European" "2.9889"
[17,] "28.3% Romanians_14 + 71.7% N._European" "3.3483"
[47,] "19.8% Sicilian_D + 80.2% N._European" "4.2124"

And now the difference to average German (third closest single population):

[9,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% Tuscan_X" "2.9932"
[10,] "66.8% German_D + 33.2% TSI" "3.0231"
[11,] "71.8% German_D + 28.2% O_Italian_D" "3.0621"
[13,] "24.4% C_Italian_D + 75.6% German_D" "3.2441"

Hmm ok.
Lets check from the Slovenian (4th) view:
[35,] "45.7% French + 54.3% Slovenian" "3.9404"

Now I check the values.
West-Asian with rounded 11% is somewhat higher than average CEU (7%), GErman (7%), British (7%), Dutch (8%), French (5%) or Norwegian 4% (Lokis known anchestry)

Places, in Europe, where that is higher:
North Italy: 13%, Central Italy: 22%, South Italy: 26%, Sicily 23%
Romania: 16%, Bulgaria: 17%, Greece 26%

I think thats the value that is mainly responsable for Oracle wanting to mix some Italian or Southeastern European into it.

[Loki]

Dodecad 'Africa 9' calculator (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/09/africa9-calculator.html), designed for more specific African breakdowns.

Here is what I get when I run mine through:

67.17% Europe
6.06% NW_Africa
25.04% SW_Asia
0.00% E_Africa
1.01% S_Africa
0.00% Mbuti
0.00% W_Africa
0.48% Biaka
0.24% San

[Humanophage]

67.64% Europe
2.87% NW_Africa
26.49% SW_Asia
0.03% E_Africa
1.42% S_Africa
0.01% Mbuti
0.00% W_Africa
0.00% Biaka
1.53% San

It seems pretty much everyone has this San bit:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-BtnJCDJuGVc/TnEQC_nOYGI/AAAAAAAAAlk/JW52BJlD82w/s1600/_9.png

[Kadu]

Africa 9 calc.


60.14% Europe
12.57% NW_Africa
26.39% SW_Asia
0.89% E_Africa
0.00% S_Africa
0.00% Mbuti
0.00% W_Africa
0.00% Biaka
0.00% San

[Sicilianu101]

DV3 (which should be (and pretty much is) similar to the analysis that Dienekes made for me):

33.89% Mediterranean
27.43% West Asian
16.94% West European
12.02% Southwest Asian
5.93% Northwest African
2.26% East European
.63% East African
.50% Neo-African
.27% Palaeo-African
.11% Southeast Asian
.02% South Asian
.00% Northeast Asian

BAT (Balkan-Anatolian-Turkic)

60.61% Anatolia
37.30% Balkans
2.09% Turkic

Africa9:

46.94% Europe
39.16% SW Asia
12.46% NW Africa
1.33% Biaka
.10% East Africa
.00% S Africa
.00% Mbuti
.00% San
.00% West Africa

MDLP:

45.24% Caucassian Anatolian
27.56% Celto Germanic
12.19% North Atlantic
10.53% Balto Slavic
4.17% Altaic
.32% Volga Region
.00% Scandinavian

Test by Eurogenes:

33.48% West_Euro
24.95% East_Mediterranean
15.48% Middle_Eastern
15.11% West_Asian
8.06% Northeast_Euro
2.20% Berber
0.50% Sub-Saharan
0.17% Southeast_Asian
0.05% Volga-Ural
0.00% South_Siberian
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% North_Asian
0.00% East_Siberian
0.00% East_Asian

[Sicilianu101]

Gedmatch Admixture by Chromosome:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2523

Gedmatch Chromosome Painting:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=339&pictureid=2522

[Quasimodem]

A new West Eurasian cline (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/09/weac-calculator.html) calculator is out. I gots:

Atlantic-Baltic: 81.26%
Near-East: 18.11%
Far-East: 0.63%
Africa: 0.00%

Most similar to these scores (based on Euclidian distance) are the Dutch (D=1.92), Germans (D=3.30), and Hungarians (D=3.54).

PCA Plot of populations:

http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/4655/weacoverviewpca.jpg

Big PCA Plot. (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/256/weacp.png)

[Quasimodem]

Interpolated maps for Europe...

Atlantic-Baltic:

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/2200/atlanticbaltic.jpg

Near-East:

http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/972/neareast.jpg

Far-East:

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/5092/fareast.jpg

Africa:

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/6157/africav.jpg

[Sicilianu101]

A new West Eurasian cline (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/09/weac-calculator.html) calculator is out. I gots:

Atlantic-Baltic: 81.26%
Near-East: 18.11%
Far-East: 0.63%
Africa: 0.00%


Big PCA Plot. (http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/256/weacp.png)

I just ran it on my sequence:

40.99% Atlantic-Baltic
57.60% Near-East
0.01% Far-East
1.40% Africa

[d3cimat3d]

62.15% Atlantic-Baltic
33.92% Near-East
3.82% Far-East
0.11% Africa

Time for me to move onto a oriental forum..

:cry2




:D:D

[Pallantides]

92.49% Atlantic-Baltic
5.58% Near-East
1.93% Far-East
0.00% Africa

[Humanophage]

Ethnic averages: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadDZBNmxiWG45WDBJNHlrN1YzMFBKR Wc&hl=en_US#gid=0

Me:
84.49% Atlantic-Baltic
11.19% Near-East
4.32% Far-East
0.00% Africa

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/WEAC-CAlc.jpg

Dragging the Russians west. I'm a poor man's Swede.

[Pallantides]

Me/Norwegian_D/Swedish_D
Atlantic-Baltic 92.49/88.9/89.2
Near-East 5.58/9.6/9
Far-East 1.93/1.4/1.8
Africa 0/0/0

[Quasimodem]

I forgot the North Russians in the maps. Here's a map of far east admixture with them included:

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5092/fareast.jpg

[Loki]

Me:

72.85% Atlantic-Baltic
23.05% Near-East
1.82% Far-East
2.28% Africa

[Pallantides]

My numbers from that African calculator:

72.09% Europe
8.36% NW_Africa
18.36% SW_Asia
0.00% E_Africa
0.00% S_Africa
0.01% Mbuti
0.00% W_Africa
0.98% Biaka
0.20% San

[Sicilianu101]

Me:

72.85% Atlantic-Baltic
23.05% Near-East
1.82% Far-East
2.28% Africa

Why is your Africa score so high? :eek:

[Pallantides]

Why is your Africa score so high? :eek:

Call the police!

[Loki]

Why is your Africa score so high? :eek:

2% is not that much considering my family has been in South Africa for around 350 years, 13 generations. Some admixture took place in the first 50 years of early settlement and was exaggerated through a bottleneck effect (founder effect) - which means I could have a single African ancestor through several lines of my family.

[Lisa]

I forgot the North Russians in the maps. Here's a map of far east admixture with them included:

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5092/fareast.jpg


Very strange map. Finns have less Siberian components than the Russians? This seriously? :rolleyes:

[Scrapple]

Very strange map. Finns have less Siberian components than the Russians? This seriously? :rolleyes:

Well the Siberians would have to go through northern Russia to get to Finland so the map does make sense.

[Quasimodem]

Very strange map. Finns have less Siberian components than the Russians? This seriously? :rolleyes:

North Russians have more Siberian components than Finns, yep. Congrats!

[Quasimodem]

Of course not. Here is the work of professional geneticists. Rus this Russians from Vologda.


http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016747#pone.0016747.s004

???

Did you post the wrong pics? That has nothing to do with Siberian influence.

EDIT: Here (http://www.plosone.org/article/slideshow.action?uri=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016747&imageURI=info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0016747.g004)'s the low-down from them professional geneticists:

http://www.plosone.org/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjour nal.pone.0016747.g004&representation=PNG_M
CHB + JPT = Chinese from Beijing + Japanese from Tokyo

[Quasimodem]

What? You seen the link?

Yes. The pics are PCA plots with a few populations. The link shows an IBS comparison with Vologda Russians, with East Finns being the closest. Nothing about Siberian affinity.


And ? :rolleyes:

The Vologda Russians have greater similarity with East Eurasian populations than Finns, which is what we usually see.

[Lisa]

Yes. The pics are PCA plots with a few populations. The link shows an IBS comparison with Vologda Russians, with East Finns being the closest. Nothing about Siberian affinity.



The Vologda Russians have greater similarity with East Eurasian populations than Finns, which is what we usually see.

You do not understand just ... Learn more. All about Siberian affinity there. In addition Northern Russians are very different. For example people from Arkhangelsk differ from people in Vologda. And all are northern Russians ...

[Quasimodem]

You do not understand just ... Learn more. All about Siberian affinity there.

Where? There are no Siberians in those plots, so how can you make conclusions about Siberian affinity based on those?


In addition Northern Russians are very different. For example people from Arkhangelsk differ from people in Vologda. And all are northern Russians ...Even if this is so, the particular North Russians in question are the Vologda Russians.

[Lisa]

[QUOTE=Nero;536301]You do not understand just ... Learn more. All about Siberian affinity there.

Where? There are no Siberians in those plots, so how can you make conclusions about Siberian affinity based on those?



Even if this is so, the particular North Russians in question are the Vologda Russians.

Sorry.... I don't understand... What you say here?? This comparative analysis of the DNA.

[Sicilianu101]

2% is not that much considering my family has been in South Africa for around 350 years, 13 generations. Some admixture took place in the first 50 years of early settlement and was exaggerated through a bottleneck effect (founder effect) - which means I could have a single African ancestor through several lines of my family.

OK That makes sense to me now :) I was judging by "Netherlands, Germany, England, Norway, France" on your profile.
It's interesting to think that S. Africa had that prejudice racial system when probably many people have at least one Sub-Saharan ancestor.

[Agrippa]

OK That makes sense to me now :) I was judging by "Netherlands, Germany, England, Norway, France" on your profile.
It's interesting to think that S. Africa had that prejudice racial system when probably many people have at least one Sub-Saharan ancestor.

Well, considering that is "like a drop in the sea", it is fairly unimportant.

In the end, it is more about phenotypical qualities anyway.

Such genetic tests just help you to inform yourself about your or a people's ancestry.

It is like proving that you have aristocratic ancestors - but if you are short, fat, have a piggish face and are too dumb for everything, having aristocratic ancestry doesn't really improve things for you and for others, other than on paper.

Same here. The presence of this or that genetic profile, if it is not phenotype-related, is interesting if looking at things from a higher and bigger perspective. For the individual evaluation, it is pretty much uninteresting, unless it points to important phenotypical aspects - positive or negative.

In my opinion, it would make sense to use racial rules even for a ruling mulatto class, because they could breed themselves up from an Eugenic and racial point of view.

Even for totally mixed people racial categories can make sense, if they help to improve the adaptive and general qualities of a population.

After all, it should be about results, rather the prejudices.

And without the rules in South Africa, the white population would have been long gone into a status of mixed ones here and there, but no real Europid population - and even the state and culture would have looked very different, rather worse I guess...

[Quasimodem]

Well, considering that is "like a drop in the sea", it is fairly unimportant.

In the end, it is more about phenotypical qualities anyway.

Such genetic tests just help you to inform yourself about your or a people's ancestry.

It is like proving that you have aristocratic ancestors - but if you are short, fat, have a piggish face and are too dumb for everything, having aristocratic ancestry doesn't really improve things for you and for others, other than on paper.

Same here. The presence of this or that genetic profile, if it is not phenotype-related, is interesting if looking at things from a higher and bigger perspective. For the individual evaluation, it is pretty much uninteresting, unless it points to important phenotypical aspects - positive or negative.

In my opinion, it would make sense to use racial rules even for a ruling mulatto class, because they could breed themselves up from an Eugenic and racial point of view.

Even for totally mixed people racial categories can make sense, if they help to improve the adaptive and general qualities of a population.

After all, it should be about results, rather the prejudices.

And without the rules in South Africa, the white population would have been long gone into a status of mixed ones here and there, but no real Europid population - and even the state and culture would have looked very different, rather worse I guess...

Alleles in your genotype which don't affect your own phenotype can affect your descendants' phenotypes, though. For example, if you and your wife carry only one allele for cystic fibrosis each, neither of you will have cystic fibrosis. But, if you and your wife have a child that inherits one cystic fibrosis allele from each of you, that child will express the cystic fibrosis phenotype. It's conceivable that the same could happen once in a blue moon with two Afrikaners with something like sickle cell anemia, I suppose.

[Lisa]

Alleles in your genotype which don't affect your own phenotype can affect your descendants' phenotypes, though. For example, if you and your wife carry only one allele for cystic fibrosis each, neither of you will have cystic fibrosis. But, if you and your wife have a child that inherits one cystic fibrosis allele from each of you, that child will express the cystic fibrosis phenotype. It's conceivable that the same could happen once in a blue moon with two Afrikaners with something like sickle cell anemia, I suppose.

You don't understand anything in genetics. Sorry, but what you write idiocy...:rolleyes:

[Kadu]

You don't understand anything in genetics. Sorry, but what you write idiocy...:rolleyes:

It's not idiocy, it's a Mendelian inheritance law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance).

[Lisa]

It's not idiocy, it's a Mendelian inheritance law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance).

Not understood. It is not a geneticist and does not understand simple things. Even I know...:rolleyes:

[Quasimodem]

You don't understand anything in genetics. Sorry, but what you write idiocy...:rolleyes:

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal2/orly_dr_evil.gif

Instead of just calling it idiocy, why don't you explain why it's idiocy?


Not understood. It is not a geneticist and does not understand simple things. Even I know...:rolleyes:

"It" is not a geneticist, you're right; it's an undergraduate fizziks and math student. But I'm not proclaiming myself an authority on genetics. What I just said is junior high school material. Even though not all traits are Mendelian, those ones are.

[Loki]

It's interesting to think that S. Africa had that prejudice racial system when probably many people have at least one Sub-Saharan ancestor.

Not really that interesting. The physical/cultural differences between the population groups were still like day and night, and the admixture non-recent and mostly unknown anyway.

[Transhumanist]

You don't understand anything in genetics. Sorry, but what you write idiocy...:rolleyes:

He is actually a very bright person. With, from what I have seen, a solid grasp of the subject in question. But, then again, I am not an academic in this field, so, what do I know. :)

[Lisa]

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal2/orly_dr_evil.gif

Instead of just calling it idiocy, why don't you explain why it's idiocy?



"It" is not a geneticist, you're right; it's an undergraduate fizziks and math student. But I'm not proclaiming myself an authority on genetics. What I just said is junior high school material. Even though not all traits are Mendelian, those ones are.

I am a student too. Just you say things are not true. Just you don't want to admit your mistakes. Why here Mendel I don't understand?

[Humanophage]

Very strange map. Finns have less Siberian components than the Russians? This seriously? :rolleyes:
Finns scored 9.1%, North Russians scored 10.2% - rather the same amount, the map puts an unnecessary stress on this 1.1%. North Russians are the same Russians from Vologda. Russians overall scored 6.5%.

And why shouldn't they have a relatively high Finno-Ugric and Siberian score? North Russians consistently show a relatively high Siberian element, being related to the local east Finnics. I suppose you know this study (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002929707000250), which shows a strong presence of 'Finno-Ugric' N1c (~35%) and even the much more 'Siberian' N1b (~7%) in North Russians, which is virtually absent in Finns (~0.2% N1b, ~60% N1c). Non-Northern Russians lack the Siberian element, and show a much smaller Finno-Ugric one (~0.5% N1b, ~13% N1c).

And indeed, non-Northern Russians such as myself show much lower Asian elements on Dodecad and Eurogenes than Finns do. For instance, here are the Far East results for this particular calculator on which the maps are based:
Norwegian individual #1: 1.93%
Norwegian individual #2: 2.51%
Polish individual: 1.28%
French individual: 0.42%
German individual: 1.50%
Russian individual #1 (me): 4.32%
Russian individual #2: 6.27%
Finnish individual #1: 10.19%
Finnish individual #2: 6.96%
Finnish individual #3: 10.21%
Finnish individual #4: 8.51%
Assyrian individual: 2.79%
Kurdish individual: 7.23%
Turkish individual #1: 7.15%
Turkish individual #2: 10.96%
Half-Euro, half-Filipino individual: 45.74%

Same thing with the main Dodecad calculator. E.g., I have 2.1% Northeast Asian and 0.16% East Asian, average Finns have 6% Northeast Asian and 0.7% Southeast Asian, average Russians have 3.5% Northeast Asian and 0.9 Southeast Asian, average Vologda Russians have 6.3% Northeast Asian and 1% Southeast Asians.

What you say about North Russians being all different is very true. For instance, Pinega Russians are more Siberian than Chuvashes (15.8% N1b, 23.7% N1c), while Vologda Russians are pretty Slavo-Finno-Ugric (3.3% N1b, 35.5% N1c).

It should be noted that it doesn't specify whether the admixtures in question are Siberian. It just says 'Far Eastern'.

[Agrippa]

Alleles in your genotype which don't affect your own phenotype can affect your descendants' phenotypes, though.

Sure, I write for years even on this board about recessive traits.


It's conceivable that the same could happen once in a blue moon with two Afrikaners with something like sickle cell anemia, I suppose.

That solely depends on the inheritance pattern and for many Negrid traits, its rather about all or nothing. The cases in which Negrid traits reappeared in a significant way, are very, very rare in mixed populations, because many of the typical Negrid traits, actually the least attractive and favourable ones, being dominant.

For example a very broad-flat nose, frizzy hair, very dark skin etc. being all dominant or intermediate.

So if they disappear in a family, they "are out" - as a rule - and if there is an exception of one out of 100.000 for unknown reasons - who cares!

The statistics for deadly diseases coming up by change with or without mixture being more serious and higher numbered!

Also, what does that tell you about what I said, that racial boundaries make sense, even in a totally mixed group?

If mulattoes mix just among themselves, they will obviously keep up a much higher proportion of Europid traits than if they mix on with Negrids, which will just further dilute their Europoid traits.

Also, on the long run, many Europid-Negrid mixed populations seem, at least with favourable selection, approach a more stable and harmonised form, which is basically Aethiopiform and has higher frequences of long heads, higher faces, narrower noses and lighter skin. So all more progressive and favourable traits.

If they mix on with Negrids, those traits won't stabilise, but disappear.

So even for mulattoes it makes sense if they prefer to mate among themselves, especially keep the women to themselves - which determines their numbers, while males could spread on, like always...

[Transhumanist]

Posted on another forum. Thought I would share it here as well.

MDS. Most European, ME, and N African populations.

[Sikeliot]

How much Far East would Hungarians show?

[Anthropologique]

Call the police!

Dial 911!:eek:

[Pallantides]

How much Far East would Hungarians show?

0.6% Northeast Asian and 0.3% Southeast Asian

Hungarian average from Dodecad v3.

[Lisa]

It's not idiocy, it's a Mendelian inheritance law (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mendelian_inheritance).

:rolleyes:

[Lisa]

http://www.hjo3.net/orly/gal2/orly_dr_evil.gif

Instead of just calling it idiocy, why don't you explain why it's idiocy?



"It" is not a geneticist, you're right; it's an undergraduate fizziks and math student. But I'm not proclaiming myself an authority on genetics. What I just said is junior high school material. Even though not all traits are Mendelian, those ones are.

Russians from Vologda region...
http://s53.radikal.ru/i140/1109/1e/84a42f3625bf.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s11.radikal.ru/i183/1109/ec/8008b91c16dd.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s010.radikal.ru/i312/1109/47/6c5fae025c60.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)
http://s001.radikal.ru/i196/1109/53/60315c0b5641.jpg (http://www.radikal.ru)

[Loki]

0.6% Northeast Asian and 0.3% Southeast Asian

Hungarian average from Dodecad v3.

That is very little. Hungarians are surprisingly European considering their linguistic origins. And, I wonder why they score so high on Northern European in some analyses?

I think it is the combination of strong Northern European with considerable SE element, and a tiny Asian admixture which makes me cluster strongly with Hungarians. MacDonald's first analysis on me said I was 97% Hungarian lol.

[Steal]

That is very little. Hungarians are surprisingly European considering their linguistic origins. And, I wonder why they score so high on Northern European in some analyses?

I think it is the combination of strong Northern European with considerable SE element, and a tiny Asian admixture which makes me cluster strongly with Hungarians. MacDonald's first analysis on me said I was 97% Hungarian lol.


yeah hungarians score pretty strongly with almost all euros guess theyre uber central european. BTW Loki in the dodecade didnt you also come out somewhat balkanite??

[Loki]

BTW Loki in the dodecade didnt you also come out somewhat balkanite??

Not aware of that, my Southern European component is not high enough for such a match.

My Y-DNA is SE, though. E1b1b1a2 (E-V13) - the one commonly associated with ancient Greek expansion and is high in modern Albanians.

[Steal]

Not aware of that, my Southern European component is not high enough for such a match.

My Y-DNA is SE, though. E1b1b1a2 (E-V13) - the one commonly associated with ancient Greek expansion and is high in modern Albanians.

in the latest decode thing didnt you get the same balticatlantic avg as the balkans though?? and the french was also suprisingly close to the balkan one

this one http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?p=516905#post516905

[Loki]

in the latest decode thing didnt you get the same balticatlantic avg as the balkans though?? and the french was also suprisingly close to the balkan one

this one http://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?p=516905#post516905

Haven't had a look a national averages, I'll check it out tomorrow. now need to sleep! :p

[Frederick]

ok, here are

BOUDICAs

[1,] "N._European" "7.3179"
[2,] "CEU" "7.6796"
[3,] "Argyll_1KG" "9.1197"
[4,] "Orcadian" "9.6223"
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "9.8874"
[6,] "German_D" "10.6222"
[7,] "French" "11.9409"
[8,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "12.6267"
[9,] "French_D" "12.6507"
[10,] "Dutch_D" "14.3746"
[11,] "Slovenian" "16.245"
[12,] "Kent_1KG" "16.806"
[13,] "British_D" "18.7751"
[14,] "British_Isles_D" "18.8594"
[15,] "Cornwall_1KG" "19.2634"
[16,] "Hungarians" "21.3363"
[17,] "Irish_D" "21.9289"
[18,] "Swedish_D" "22.1368"
[19,] "Norwegian_D" "23.1831"
[20,] "Tuscan_H" "24.0694"
[21,] "TSI" "24.1915"
[22,] "Tuscan_X" "24.4108"
[23,] "Portuguese_D" "24.8349"
[24,] "French_Basque" "25.189"
[25,] "N_Italian_D" "25.3987"
[26,] "Spaniards" "26.2987"
[27,] "IBS" "27.443"
[28,] "Spanish_D" "27.558"
[29,] "North_Italian" "30.0721"
[30,] "FIN" "30.3461"

[Sicilianu101]

My results for the new "Euro7" Calculator from Dodecad (http://dodecad.blogspot.com/2011/09/euro7-calculator.html)

44.37% Southeastern
31.88% Southwestern
12.65% Caucasus
9.14% Northwestern
1.94% African
0.02% Northeastern
0.00% Far_Asian

[Damião de Góis]

Here's what i got:

47.54% Southwestern
32.05% Northwestern
11.14% Southeastern
3.81% Northeastern
2.75% African
2.71% Caucasus
0.00% Far_Asian

[Frederick]

That latest "Euro7" components....

Frederick
3.49% Caucasus (German average: 4.6%)
45.91% Northwestern (German average: 46.4%)
33.99% Northeastern (German average: 29.4%)
9.39% Southeastern (German average: 9.6%)
0.00% African (German average: 0%)
0.24% Far_Asian (German average: 0.1%)
6.98% Southwestern (German average: 9.9%)


Boudica:
7.14% Caucasus
44.58% Northwestern
18.00% Northeastern
14.41% Southeastern
0.49% African
0.01% Far_Asian
15.36% Southwestern

Sahson:
7.52% Caucasus (British average: 6.2%, Orkneys: 5.8%)
50.11% Northwestern (British average: 68.3%, Orkneys 54.1%)
20.97% Northeastern (British average: 10.2%, Orkneys 20.1)
7.96% Southeastern (British average: 6.1%, Orkneys 5.2%)
0.15% African (British average: 0.1%, Orkneys 0%)
0.02% Far_Asian (British average: 0.2%, Orkneys 0.1%)
13.26% Southwestern (British average: 8.9%, Orkneys 14.7%)

[Loki]

Mine:

6.70% Caucasus
41.55% Northwestern
19.72% Northeastern
13.09% Southeastern
2.36% African
1.32% Far_Asian
15.27% Southwestern

[Pallantides]

My results:

5.01% Caucasus (Norwegian average: 4.2%)
69.38% Northwestern (Norwegian average: 68.1%)
24.68% Northeastern (Norwegian average: 20.9%)
0.04% Southeastern (Norwegian average: 3.1%)
0.00% African (Norwegian average: 0.00%)
0.87% Far_Asian (Norwegian average: 0.8%)
0.01% Southwestern (Norwegian average: 3%)

[Graham]

00.34% Caucasus
81.86% Northwestern
05.37% Northeastern
12.39% Southeastern
00.00% African
00.05% Far_Asian
00.00% Southwestern

[Scrapple]

3.59% Caucasus
30.17% Northwestern
38.30% Northeastern
13.39% Southeastern
0.00% African
0.72% Far_Asian
13.83% Southwestern

[Humanophage]

Me:
5.71% Caucasus
24.87% Northwestern
53.06% Northeastern
6.01% Southeastern
0.00% African
2.66% Far_Asian
7.69% Southwestern

A few western Russians with small North/East Asian admixtures:
Russian #1
3.75% Caucasus
24.80% Northwestern
55.26% Northeastern
3.45% Southeastern
0.06% African
4.41% Far_Asian
8.27% Southwestern

Russian #2 (1's father)
5.33% Caucasus
26.56% Northwestern
49.62% Northeastern
6.00% Southeastern
0.00% African
3.75% Far_Asian
8.75% Southwestern

Russian #3 (1's mother)
3.72% Caucasus
24.76% Northwestern
54.99% Northeastern
4.15% Southeastern
0.03% African
4.03% Far_Asian
8.32% Southwestern

Russian #4
6.21% Caucasus
24.51% Northwestern
52.24% Northeastern
5.84% Southeastern
0.00% African
1.97% Far_Asian
9.23% Southwestern

Russian #5 (4's son)
6.47% Caucasus
21.72% Northwestern
52.05% Northeastern
7.85% Southeastern
0.28% African
2.38% Far_Asian
9.25% Southwestern

[Hussar]

----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

6.97% Caucasus
34.03% Northwestern
4.81% Northeastern
20.90% Southeastern
0.00% African
0.00% Far_Asian
33.29% Southwestern

[Olavsson]

Got this off evon on ABF


Mixed mode:

DOD197(Me)

[1,] "11.6% Finnish_D + 88.4% Norwegian_D" "2.9004"
[2,] "16.8% FIN + 83.2% Norwegian_D" "2.9109"
[3,] "1.9% FIN + 98.1% Swedish_D" "2.9977"
[4,] "0.8% Finnish_D + 99.2% Swedish_D" "3.0146"
[5,] "2% Norwegian_D + 98% Swedish_D" "3.0237"
[6,] "Swedish_D" "3.0249"
[7,] "FALSE" "3.0249"
[8,] "FALSE" "3.0249"
[9,] "FALSE" "3.0249"
[10,] "FALSE" "3.0249"

DOD306(evon)

[1,] "14.8% French_Basque + 85.2% Norwegian_D" "2.4597"
[2,] "88.5% Norwegian_D + 11.5% Spaniards" "3.2339"
[3,] "89% Norwegian_D + 11% Spanish_D" "3.2709"
[4,] "10.8% IBS + 89.2% Norwegian_D" "3.367"
[5,] "18% French_D + 82% Norwegian_D" "3.4268"
[6,] "18% French + 82% Norwegian_D" "3.5641"
[7,] "89.2% Norwegian_D + 10.8% Portuguese_D" "3.7023"
[8,] "92.1% Norwegian_D + 7.9% Sardinian" "3.7563"
[9,] "37.4% Kent_1KG + 62.6% Norwegian_D" "3.7921"
[10,] "41.9% British_Isles_D + 58.1% Norwegian_D" "3.8765"

DOD620(Olavsson)
[1,] "5.5% Lezgins + 94.5% Norwegian_D" "3.2675"
[2,] "4.9% Adygei + 95.1% Norwegian_D" "3.5759"
[3,] "94.2% Norwegian_D + 5.8% Urkarah" "3.8661"
[4,] "3.9% Georgians + 96.1% Norwegian_D" "3.8996"
[5,] "94.6% Norwegian_D + 5.4% Stalskoe" "4.263"
[6,] "3.7% Kalash + 96.3% Norwegian_D" "4.381"
[7,] "3.5% Lezgins + 96.5% Swedish_D" "4.3919"
[8,] "3.6% Iranian_D + 96.4% Norwegian_D" "4.4788"
[9,] "96% Norwegian_D + 4% Uzbeks" "4.5434"
[10,] "17.6% Irish_D + 82.4% Swedish_D" "4.5518"

What kind of experiment is this? Why do I get this exotic stuff? It's confusing, so I hope someone can explain... :p

[Agrippa]

What kind of experiment is this? Why do I get this exotic stuff? It's confusing, so I hope someone can explain... :p

You just have a somewhat higher than average Norwegian West Asian input. Since West Asian is pretty low in Norway it seems, you are the ideal Norwegian + minor West Asian.

[larali]

Population
East_European 14.2%
West_European 50.8%
Mediterranean 25.4%
Neo_African -
West_Asian 5.4%
South_Asian 1.0%
Northeast_Asian 0.3%
Southeast_Asian 0.3%
East_African 0.1%
Southwest_Asian 1.2%
Northwest_African 1.1%
Palaeo_African -

[d3cimat3d]

not bad not bad

28.04% Northeastern
23.09% Caucasus
19.15% Southeastern
15.73% Northwestern
11.52% Southwestern
2.30% Far_Asian
0.17% African

[Pallantides]

My result from the eurasia7 calculator:

0.00% Sub_Saharan (Norwegian average : 0.00%)
6.66% West_Asian (Norwegian average : 5.2%)
86.89% Atlantic_Baltic (Norwegian average : 84.6%)
0.02% East_Asian (Norwegian average : 0.1%)
2.61% Southern (Norwegian average : 6.2%)
1.12% South_Asian (Norwegian average : 2.1%)
2.70% Siberian (Norwegian average : 1.8%)


All the population averages can be found here:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArAJcY18g2GadExjVnpKbHFEeGVZOEZPOXBxWnA2W nc#gid=0

[Sicilianu101]

Eurasia7:

34.99% Southern (Sicilian Average : 32.3%)
32.06% West_Asian (Sicilian Average : 29.7%)
31.46% Atlantic_Baltic (Sicilian Average : 35.9%)
1.4% Sub_Saharan (Sicilian Average : 1.6%)
.08% East_Asian (Sicilian Average : .2%)
.01% South_Asian (Sicilian Average : .1%)
.00% Siberian (Sicilian Average : .1%)

[xor eax, eax]

DV3
14.10% East_European
41.55% West_European
28.47% Mediterranean
0.00% Neo_African
10.29% West_Asian
1.62% South_Asian
0.62% Northeast_Asian
0.05% Southeast_Asian
0.00% East_African
3.12% Southwest_Asian
0.13% Northwest_African
0.05% Palaeo_African

Euro7
5.46% Caucasus
35.46% Northwestern
24.49% Northeastern
19.48% Southeastern
0.17% African
0.70% Far_Asian
14.24% Southwestern

[Damião de Góis]

New dodecad thing, K12a:

----------------------------
FINAL ADMIXTURE PROPORTIONS:
----------------------------

45.13% Mediterranean
0.00% Far_Asian
0.00% Siberian
25.87% North_European
0.62% South_Asian
0.29% West_African
12.83% Caucasus
4.17% Gedrosia
1.42% East_African
1.11% Southwest_Asian
0.00% Southeast_Asian
8.56% Northwest_African

[Sicilianu101]

Dodecad K12a:

39.19% Caucasus
31.00% Mediterranean
12.44% Southwest_Asian
8.90% North_European
5.67% Northwest_African
0.96% South_Asian
0.88% Gedrosia
0.71% East_African
0.19% West_African
0.01% Far_Asian
0.05% Southeast_Asian
0.00% Siberian

[d3cimat3d]

Hope this is enough to be accepted into the Euro club:

18.26% Mediterranean
0.03% Far_Asian
2.46% Siberian
34.91% North_European
0.33% South_Asian
0.11% West_African
32.87% Caucasus
6.84% Gedrosia
0.00% East_African
4.05% Southwest_Asian
0.14% Southeast_Asian
0.01% Northwest_African

[Pallantides]

Dodecad K12a

DOD197(Me)

Mediterranean 31.8%
Far_Asian 0%
Siberian 1.1%
North_European 59.2%
South_Asian 0%
West_African 0%
Caucasus 1.9%
Gedrosia 6%
East_African 0%
Southwest_Asian 0%
Southeast_Asian 0%
Northwest_African 0%


Norwegian_D(N=10) average

Mediterranean 36%
Far_Asian 0%
Siberian 0.8%
North_European 55.2%
South_Asian 0%
West_African 0%
Caucasus 1.2%
Gedrosia 6.4%
East_African 0%
Southwest_Asian 0.3%
Southeast_Asian 0.1%
Northwest_African 0%


Swedish_D(N=10) average

Mediterranean 33.5%
Far_Asian 0%
Siberian 1.1%
North_European 57.2%
South_Asian 0.2%
West_African 0%
Caucasus 1.1%
Gedrosia 6.1%
East_African 0%
Southwest_Asian 0.5%
Southeast_Asian 0.2%
Northwest_African 0%

[Scrapple]

me 283

Mediterranean 31.8
Far_Asian 0
Siberian 1
North_European 48.1
South_Asian 0
West_African 0
Caucasus 11.8
Gedrosia 5.1
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 2.2
Southeast_Asian 0
Northwest_African 0

[Agrippa]

I wonder about the "Gedrosian" component and for what it might stand? It seems to be "pre Indo-European South Asian Neolithic Europids" if one wants to interpret it that way.

Especially "Gedrosian" and "South Asian" has a strange distribution it seems, with "South Asian" being highest in the Malayans!

"South Asian" being generally higher in those people have a stronger Weddoid/"Ancestral South Indian" component.

[Pallantides]

I wonder about the "Gedrosian" component and for what it might stand?

According to wikipedia 'Gedrosia' was the ancient Hellenized name for the area that is now Balochistan in Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedrosia

[Graham]

40.26% Mediterranean
0.00% Far_Asian
0.06% Siberian
47.10% North_European
0.00% South_Asian
0.00% West_African
4.08% Caucasus
7.94% Gedrosia
0.08% East_African
0.46% Southwest_Asian
0.00% Southeast_Asian
0.00% Northwest_African

[Humanophage]

K12a results:
22.13% Mediterranean
0.07% Far_Asian
2.32% Siberian
59.73% North_European
2.04% South_Asian
0.00% West_African
10.33% Caucasus
2.20% Gedrosia
0.00% East_African
1.04% Southwest_Asian
0.12% Southeast_Asian
0.01% Northwest_African

Compared to genetic and a few geographical neighbours:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f389/Humanophage/HumanophageK12a.jpg

Dodecad Oracle:
[1,] "Polish_D" "3.7164"
[2,] "Ukranians_Y" "5.332"
[3,] "Russian_D" "7.0211"
[4,] "Belorussian" "7.8957"
[5,] "Russian_B" "8.1312"
[6,] "Mordovians_Y" "9.9684"
[7,] "Russian" "10.7038"
[8,] "Hungarians" "15.0516"
[9,] "Swedish_D" "15.5325"
[10,] "Lithuanian_D" "15.6001"
[11,] "FIN25" "15.6382"
[12,] "Lithuanians" "15.8043"
[13,] "German_D" "16.2597"
[14,] "Finnish_D" "17.565"
[15,] "Norwegian_D" "17.9142"
[16,] "Chuvashs" "22.5191"
[17,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "23.6352"
[18,] "Dutch_D" "23.9476"
[19,] "CEU25" "24.0656"
[20,] "British_Isles_D" "24.8209"

Dodecad Oracle (mixed mode):
[1,] "24.9% Dutch_D + 75.1% Russian_B" "1.83"
[2,] "24.8% CEU25 + 75.2% Russian_B" "1.8826"
[3,] "76.9% Russian_B + 23.1% Kent_1KG" "1.9489"
[4,] "23.2% British_D + 76.8% Russian_B" "1.9527"
[5,] "77.8% Russian_B + 22.2% Cornwall_1KG" "1.9584"
[6,] "25.1% Mixed_Germanic_D + 74.9% Russian_B" "1.9695"
[7,] "87.7% Polish_D + 12.3% Chuvashs" "2.0017"
[8,] "24.2% British_Isles_D + 75.8% Russian_B" "2.0085"
[9,] "76.3% Russian_B + 23.7% Argyll_1KG" "2.1201"
[10,] "23.6% Irish_D + 76.4% Russian_B" "2.1223"

[Agrippa]

According to wikipedia 'Gedrosia' was the ancient Hellenized name for the area that is now Balochistan in Pakistan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gedrosia

Thanks for the link, but that's something I figured out before already, I was asking whether people have something in mind if talking about the origins of this component.

On Dienekes blog, they speculate about a Central Asian component, which would make sense, as North European is this time so close to Caucasian and Gedrosian so widespread in Europe, that we might deal here with different interpretations in different admixture runs of a similar component which being now largely diluted and admixed, being categorised differently in different runs.

[Barreldriver]

Now that I'm on the holiday break I got some time to run my raw data through DIYDodecad v3 2.1 and the K12a and Oracle:



Dodecad ORACLE V1:
DodecadOracle(c(10.27,51.84,26.91,0.00,8.75,0.61,0 .01,0.23,0.00,0.95,0.36,0.07))
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "CEU" "2.9717"
[2,] "N._European" "5.0694"
[3,] "Orcadian" "5.2101"
[4,] "Argyll_1KG" "5.391"
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "5.6548"
[6,] "German_D" "8.5726"
[7,] "French" "9.6303"
[8,] "French_D" "10.0577"
[9,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "10.6703"
[10,] "Dutch_D" "11.7807"

Two way mix mode -
DodecadOracle(c(10.27,51.84,26.91,0.00,8.75,0.61,0 .01,0.23,0.00,0.95,0.36,0.07),mixedmode=T)
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "90.4% Orcadian + 9.6% S_Italian_D" "0.4005"
[2,] "89.7% Orkney_1KG + 10.3% S_Italian_D" "0.4049"
[3,] "12.5% C_Italian_D + 87.5% Orkney_1KG" "0.4141"
[4,] "90.1% Orcadian + 9.9% Sicilian_D" "0.4439"
[5,] "89.7% Orcadian + 10.3% S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "0.4723"
[6,] "89.3% Orkney_1KG + 10.7% Sicilian_D" "0.4816"
[7,] "11.7% C_Italian_D + 88.3% Orcadian" "0.4921"
[8,] "14.5% O_Italian_D + 85.5% Orkney_1KG" "0.5639"
[9,] "13.5% O_Italian_D + 86.5% Orcadian" "0.5794"
[10,] "84.2% Orcadian + 15.8% Tuscan_X" "0.5924"


Dodecad ORACLE K12a:

DodecadOracle(c(38.56,0.11,0.02,43.44,0.25,0.00,10 .03,5.75,0.00,1.35,0.35,0.15))
[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "4.4115"
[2,] "Dutch_D" "6.103"
[3,] "CEU25" "6.6756"
[4,] "German_D" "8.5308"
[5,] "Kent_1KG" "8.5788"
[6,] "British_D" "8.6306"
[7,] "British_Isles_D" "8.7857"
[8,] "French" "9.1252"
[9,] "Cornwall_1KG" "9.5826"
[10,] "French_D" "9.8159"

Two way mix mode –


[,1] [,2]
[1,] "74.1% British_D + 25.9% Bulgarians_Y" "1.0815"
[2,] "74.2% Kent_1KG + 25.8% Bulgarians_Y" "1.1205"
[3,] "85.2% Mixed_Germanic_D + 14.8% Bulgarians_Y" "1.1247"
[4,] "73.8% British_Isles_D + 26.2% Bulgarians_Y" "1.1584"
[5,] "85.2% Mixed_Germanic_D + 14.8% Bulgarian_D" "1.2996"
[6,] "74.1% British_D + 25.9% Bulgarian_D" "1.36"
[7,] "25.8% Bulgarian_D + 74.2% Kent_1KG" "1.3872"
[8,] "79% CEU25 + 21% Bulgarians_Y" "1.4182"
[9,] "73.7% British_Isles_D + 26.3% Bulgarian_D" "1.4201"
[10,] "77.6% French + 22.4% Russian_B" "1.4797"

[Graham]

Ran it through Oracle. To be honest I think ORACLE V1 looked better for mixed mode. BUt then again I'm not sure how this compares with others.

[1,] "CEU25" "1.404"
[2,] "British_Isles_D" "1.5554"
[3,] "Dutch_D" "1.8103"
[4,] "British_D" "2.4177"
[5,] "Kent_1KG" "2.5568"
[6,] "Irish_D" "3.193"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "3.2501"
[8,] "Argyll_1KG" "3.9107"
[9,] "Cornwall_1KG" "4.0116"
[10,] "Orcadian" "4.3632"

[1,] "91.6% Kent_1KG + 8.4% Ukranians_Y" "0.4076"
[2,] "92.1% British_D + 7.9% Ukranians_Y" "0.4363"
[3,] "7.4% Russian_B + 92.6% Kent_1KG" "0.4411"
[4,] "9.6% Polish_D + 90.4% Kent_1KG" "0.4539"
[5,] "87.4% Cornwall_1KG + 12.6% Ukranians_Y" "0.4564"
[6,] "97.9% British_Isles_D + 2.1% Chechens_Y" "0.4973"
[7,] "91% British_D + 9% Polish_D" "0.509"
[8,] "7.6% Belorussian + 92.4% Kent_1KG" "0.5312"
[9,] "97.8% British_Isles_D + 2.2% Lezgins" "0.5497"
[10,] "98% British_Isles_D + 2% Adygei" "0.5508"

[Transhumanist]

My K12a values:

Caucasus 51.7
Southwest_Asian 18.6
Gedrosia 16.9
Mediterranean 10.7
North_European 1.5
Far_Asian 0.6
Siberian 0.0
South_Asian 0.0
West_African 0.0
East_African 0.0
Southeast_Asian 0.0
Northwest_African 0.0

Assyrian_D Mix Mode top 10 matches (after excluding Azeri Jews):

1 "53% Iraq_Jews + 47% Armenians_Y" "1.4147"
2 "47.6% Armenian_D + 52.4% Iraq_Jews" "1.4364"
3 "39.2% Armenian_D + 60.8% Iranian_Jews" "2.001"
4 "61.8% Iranian_Jews + 38.2% Armenians_Y" "2.3646"
5 "25% Armenians + 75% Iranian_Jews" "2.582"
6 "32.1% Armenians + 67.9% Iraq_Jews" "2.9297"
7 "16.3% Georgians + 83.7% Iraq_Jews" "3.3553"
8 "84.6% Iraq_Jews + 15.4% Abhkasians_Y" "3.4881"
9 "19.3% Cypriots + 80.7% Iranian_Jews" "3.6663"
10 "31% Syrians + 69% Armenians_Y" "3.6901"

[Pallantides]

I followed the instructions, but the Oracle seem not to work for me correctly(getting weird indvidual results but populations seem to work fine though) :(:confused:




So could someone be so nice to run my numbers through the oracle, I'm DOD197?

[Graham]

So could someone be so nice to run my numbers through the oracle, I'm DOD197?

I'll do it for some money...

Ok then. You are now Swedish. Good? :D

[1,] "Swedish_D" "2.8054"
[2,] "Norwegian_D" "5.872"
[3,] "German_D" "11.1973"
[4,] "Polish_D" "13.5447"
[5,] "Orkney_1KG" "14.408"
[6,] "Argyll_1KG" "15.2"
[7,] "Orcadian" "15.2506"
[8,] "Irish_D" "15.3196"
[9,] "British_Isles_D" "15.4295"
[10,] "CEU25" "15.8123"

[1,] "89.2% Swedish_D + 10.8% Lithuanians" "0.9057"
[2,] "89.2% Swedish_D + 10.8% Lithuanian_D" "0.9102"
[3,] "79.2% Norwegian_D + 20.8% Lithuanian_D" "1.2567"
[4,] "79.3% Norwegian_D + 20.7% Lithuanians" "1.2632"
[5,] "9.7% Finnish_D + 90.3% Swedish_D" "1.3968"
[6,] "88.2% Swedish_D + 11.8% Belorussian" "1.4191"
[7,] "89.7% Swedish_D + 10.3% FIN25" "1.4956"
[8,] "89.5% Swedish_D + 10.5% Russian_B" "1.5273"
[9,] "11.5% Russian_D + 88.5% Swedish_D" "1.5319"
[10,] "90.1% Swedish_D + 9.9% Russian" "1.6241"

[Barreldriver]

I followed the instructions, but the Oracle seem not to work for me correctly(getting weird indvidual results but populations seem to work fine though) :(:confused:




So could someone be so nice to run my numbers through the oracle, I'm DOD197?

I had trouble at first as well as I'm clumsy at the keyboard, all I did was in R type DodecadOracle (c(insert various admixture percentiles without the % sign)) hit enter, then for the two way mix DodecadOracle (c(insert various admixture percentiles without the %sign),mixedmode=T) or something like that.

[Sicilianu101]

Would someone be able to run my results through Oracle also? Thanks a lot :)
I am DOD804:

38.40% Caucasus
30.09% Mediterranean
12.5% Southwest_Asian
9.00% North_European
5.8% Northwest_African
1.4% Gedrosia
1.20% South_Asian
0.80% East_African
0.00% West_African
0.00% Far_Asian
0.00% Southeast_Asian
0.00% Siberian

[Barreldriver]

Would someone be able to run my results through Oracle also? Thanks a lot :)
I am DOD804:

38.40% Caucasus
30.09% Mediterranean
12.5% Southwest_Asian
9.00% North_European
5.8% Northwest_African
1.4% Gedrosia
1.20% South_Asian
0.80% East_African
0.00% West_African
0.00% Far_Asian
0.00% Southeast_Asian
0.00% Siberian

I see you reordered you percentages from greatest to least so I reorganized them in the default order when one first runs the test in R and got this:

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "S_Italian_D" "4.7098"
[2,] "Sephardic_Jews" "5.4858"
[3,] "Ashkenazi_D" "6.009"
[4,] "Sicilian_D" "6.2423"
[5,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "6.696"
[6,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "7.5925"
[7,] "Morocco_Jews" "9.5762"
[8,] "Greek_D" "10.9639"
[9,] "C_Italian_D" "13.9262"
[10,] "Cypriots" "14.4133"

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "55.2% S_Italian_D + 44.8% Sephardic_Jews" "2.6131"
[2,] "71.4% S_Italian_D + 28.6% Morocco_Jews" "2.9776"
[3,] "87.6% S_Italian_D + 12.4% Palestinian" "3.0023"
[4,] "90.1% S_Italian_D + 9.9% Egyptans" "3.0595"
[5,] "88.6% S_Italian_D + 11.4% Samaritians" "3.1059"
[6,] "87.7% S_Italian_D + 12.3% Jordanians" "3.1303"
[7,] "85.9% S_Italian_D + 14.1% Lebanese" "3.2352"
[8,] "72.6% Sicilian_D + 27.4% Cypriots" "3.3025"
[9,] "87.1% S_Italian_D + 12.9% Druze" "3.4027"
[10,] "93.8% S_Italian_D + 6.2% Yemen_Jews" "3.5124"

[Barreldriver]

Ran it through Oracle. To be honest I think ORACLE V1 looked better for mixed mode. But then again I'm not sure how this compares with others.

[1,] "CEU25" "1.404"
[2,] "British_Isles_D" "1.5554"
[3,] "Dutch_D" "1.8103"
[4,] "British_D" "2.4177"
[5,] "Kent_1KG" "2.5568"
[6,] "Irish_D" "3.193"
[7,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "3.2501"
[8,] "Argyll_1KG" "3.9107"
[9,] "Cornwall_1KG" "4.0116"
[10,] "Orcadian" "4.3632"

[1,] "91.6% Kent_1KG + 8.4% Ukranians_Y" "0.4076"
[2,] "92.1% British_D + 7.9% Ukranians_Y" "0.4363"
[3,] "7.4% Russian_B + 92.6% Kent_1KG" "0.4411"
[4,] "9.6% Polish_D + 90.4% Kent_1KG" "0.4539"
[5,] "87.4% Cornwall_1KG + 12.6% Ukranians_Y" "0.4564"
[6,] "97.9% British_Isles_D + 2.1% Chechens_Y" "0.4973"
[7,] "91% British_D + 9% Polish_D" "0.509"
[8,] "7.6% Belorussian + 92.4% Kent_1KG" "0.5312"
[9,] "97.8% British_Isles_D + 2.2% Lezgins" "0.5497"
[10,] "98% British_Isles_D + 2% Adygei" "0.5508"

I think the non-mixed mode test in V1 was better but for myself the mixed mode in K12a seems accurate for in part, seems strange to be getting Adygei and Lezgins in your list as a Scotsman.

I found it strange to get Mixed_Germanic_D and Dutch_D as my top two before the Utahns and Brits in my list for the basic test, but I ran Mixed_Germanic_D and Dutch_D and they seem to be similar to Brits and Utahns to a degree so it kind of fits for them to make my list. My mixed mode correctly estimated near to 75% British which matches 100% with my pedigree, just the other 25% was off with Bulgarian.

[Barreldriver]

I did something wrong on my calculations as I just found that Dienekes had an individual results tab for the K12a, the results he has for my ID (DOD152) are slightly different from what I came out with.

The updated results:

39.2% Mediterranean
0% Far Asian
0% Siberian
43.4% North European
0.3% South Asian
0% West African
9.5% Caucasus
6.4% Gedrosia
0% East African
1% Southwest Asian
0.2% Southeast Asian
0% Northwest African

Updated Oracle K12a results:

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "Mixed_Germanic_D" "3.7376"
[2,] "Dutch_D" "5.3329"
[3,] "CEU25" "5.9841"
[4,] "Kent_1KG" "7.6811"
[5,] "British_D" "7.7421"
[6,] "British_Isles_D" "8.0231"
[7,] "French" "8.6232"
[8,] "Cornwall_1KG" "8.6325"
[9,] "German_D" "8.8972"
[10,] "French_D" "9.3941"

Two way mix mode –

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "76.9% Kent_1KG + 23.1% Bulgarians_Y" "1.0251"
[2,] "76.8% British_D + 23.2% Bulgarians_Y" "1.039"
[3,] "8.1% Greek_D + 91.9% Mixed_Germanic_D" "1.2969"
[4,] "23.1% Bulgarian_D + 76.9% Kent_1KG" "1.3018"
[5,] "76.8% British_D + 23.2% Bulgarian_D" "1.3169"
[6,] "74.9% Cornwall_1KG + 25.1% Bulgarians_Y" "1.3831"
[7,] "92.8% Mixed_Germanic_D + 7.2% S_Italian_D" "1.4595"
[8,] "90% Mixed_Germanic_D + 10% Tuscan" "1.4958"
[9,] "8.8% C_Italian_D + 91.2% Mixed_Germanic_D" "1.5392"
[10,] "90.2% Mixed_Germanic_D + 9.8% O_Italian_D" "1.5448"

[Sagapane]

I am new here.
Something about the new calculator. I find its Gedrosia component really interesting. It seems to be composed of some West and East European 1/4, West Asian 3/5 and ANI 3/20 from Dodecad v3. Dienekes says BMAC in Central Asia might be possible place of Origin.

[Sicilianu101]

I see you reordered you percentages from greatest to least so I reorganized them in the default order when one first runs the test in R and got this:

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "S_Italian_D" "4.7098"
[2,] "Sephardic_Jews" "5.4858"
[3,] "Ashkenazi_D" "6.009"
[4,] "Sicilian_D" "6.2423"
[5,] "S_Italian_Sicilian_D" "6.696"
[6,] "Ashkenazy_Jews" "7.5925"
[7,] "Morocco_Jews" "9.5762"
[8,] "Greek_D" "10.9639"
[9,] "C_Italian_D" "13.9262"
[10,] "Cypriots" "14.4133"

[,1] [,2]
[1,] "55.2% S_Italian_D + 44.8% Sephardic_Jews" "2.6131"
[2,] "71.4% S_Italian_D + 28.6% Morocco_Jews" "2.9776"
[3,] "87.6% S_Italian_D + 12.4% Palestinian" "3.0023"
[4,] "90.1% S_Italian_D + 9.9% Egyptans" "3.0595"
[5,] "88.6% S_Italian_D + 11.4% Samaritians" "3.1059"
[6,] "87.7% S_Italian_D + 12.3% Jordanians" "3.1303"
[7,] "85.9% S_Italian_D + 14.1% Lebanese" "3.2352"
[8,] "72.6% Sicilian_D + 27.4% Cypriots" "3.3025"
[9,] "87.1% S_Italian_D + 12.9% Druze" "3.4027"
[10,] "93.8% S_Italian_D + 6.2% Yemen_Jews" "3.5124"

Thank you! :)

[Sicilianu101]

World 9:

My Results (Sicilian Average)

Southern 41.1% (37.9)
Atlantic_Baltic 31.7% (35.8)
Caucasus_Gedrosia 25.7% (24)
African 1.5% (1.5)
Amerindian 0% (0.1)
Australasian 0% (0.2)
Siberian 0% (0.1)
East_Asian 0% (0.2)
South_Asian 0% (0.1)

[Barreldriver]

My World9 results:

1.3% Amerindian
0% East_Asian
0% African
71.8% Atlantic_Baltic
0.5% Australasian
0% Siberian
12.3% Caucasus_Gedrosia
14% Southern
0.1% South Asian

[Pallantides]

My results from the Spreadsheet:

0% Amerindian
0% East Asian
0% African
82.5% Atlantic_Baltic
0% Australasian
2.8% Siberian
11% Caucasus_Gedrosia
3.2% Southern
0% South Asian


With the calculator

0.00% Amerindian
0.13% East_Asian
0.00% African
83.05% Atlantic_Baltic
0.00% Australasian
2.75% Siberian
10.43% Caucasus_Gedrosia
3.63% Southern
0.01% South_Asian

[Humanophage]

Me versus (Russian_D)

1.73% Amerindian (0.7)
0.01% East_Asian (0.4)
0.00% African (0.0)
74.24% Atlantic_Baltic (75.5)
0.48% Australasian (0.3)
2.91% Siberian (5.7)
13.35% Caucasus_Gedrosia (13.8)
5.61% Southern (3.1)
1.69% South_Asian (0.8)

http://lada.gorod.tomsk.ru/uploads/40967/1265618317/gojko1.jpg

[d3cimat3d]

East_Asian 0.1%
Atlantic_Baltic 46.6%
Australasian 0.8%
Siberian 2.7%
Caucasus_Gedrosia 30.7%
Southern 19%
South_Asian 0.1%

0.8% Denisovan? :icon12:

http://i39.tinypic.com/2h6sxgl.jpg