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Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 08:55 PM
Rank please.

Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:00 PM
I know which should be first, the question is how to rank the other two.

Dick
05-13-2017, 09:13 PM
is there actual admixture from Slav invaders in Greece or is it from ancient IE's?

Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:14 PM
is there actual admixture from Slav invaders in Greece or is it from ancient IE's?

No one will know until we have ancient Greek autosomal DNA.

Dick
05-13-2017, 09:15 PM
No one will know until we have ancient Greek autosomal DNA.

I'm sure there's many to be found. What are they waiting for?

Mn The Loki TA Son
05-13-2017, 09:18 PM
Slavic in Greece > Norman in Sicily > Moorish in Iberia.

Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:20 PM
Slavic in Greece > Norman in Sicily > Moorish in Iberia.

I think I would say the same but I am unsure on the last two.

Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2017, 09:22 PM
What is being measured exactly?

Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:23 PM
What is being measured exactly?

DNA.

Voskos
05-13-2017, 09:23 PM
I'm sure there's many to be found. What are they waiting for?


they tested mycenean and minoan guys a whie ago but they only managed to get mtdna results.not sure why

Megadorian
05-13-2017, 09:24 PM
Didn't a previous study state that slavic adminixture was unexistant-very low in the areas like Mani, Lakonia(Mt Taygetos area home of tsakonians) and Crete? 0-5% right?

Voskos
05-13-2017, 09:26 PM
http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2008/05/mtdna-from-grave-circle-b-in-mycenae_07.html
http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2013/05/mtdna-from-minoan-crete-hughey-et-al.html

Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:26 PM
Didn't a previous study state that slavic adminixture was unexistant-very low in the areas like Mani, Lakonia(Mt Taygetos area home of tsakonians) and Crete? 0-5% right?

Yes, but you also have places like Epirus, Thessaly, Thrace, and Macedonia.

Cretans are genetically close to Sicilians. Southern Peloponnesians can be as well. But I mean Greece overall here.

Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2017, 09:31 PM
DNA.

Then the closest you'll get with speculation is by looking at Y-DNA, which is counting R1a in greeks, I1 in Sicilians and E-M81 in iberians.
And even so that's highly speculative.

Mn The Loki TA Son
05-13-2017, 09:32 PM
I think I would say the same but I am unsure on the last two.

I say it like that and taking consideration results for what each gets.

A Sicilian scores around 15%North Euro in gedmatch Dodecad, that must be due to Norman input.
While a Greek mainland like Thessalian today tend to score both high Baltic AND North Sea/Atlantic. And Iberians tend to score from 0-4%to 6% I think from what I seen in for North African score.

I think if compare an Canarian, it would be an unsure one. As they can score from 4-6% to high as 15%+ North African.

MysteriousWays
05-13-2017, 09:33 PM
Slavic in Greece>Norman in Sicily>Moorish in Iberia

Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:41 PM
Slavic in Greece>Norman in Sicily>Moorish in Iberia

I think I'd go with this order.

Erronkari
05-14-2017, 12:28 AM
First option doesn't lie...!