View Full Version : Which is highest/lowest: Slavic in Greece, Norman in Sicily, or Moorish in Iberia?
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 09:55 PM
Rank please.
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 10:00 PM
I know which should be first, the question is how to rank the other two.
Dolofonos
05-13-2017, 10:13 PM
is there actual admixture from Slav invaders in Greece or is it from ancient IE's?
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 10:14 PM
is there actual admixture from Slav invaders in Greece or is it from ancient IE's?
No one will know until we have ancient Greek autosomal DNA.
Dolofonos
05-13-2017, 10:15 PM
No one will know until we have ancient Greek autosomal DNA.
I'm sure there's many to be found. What are they waiting for?
Mn The Loki TA Son
05-13-2017, 10:18 PM
Slavic in Greece > Norman in Sicily > Moorish in Iberia.
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 10:20 PM
Slavic in Greece > Norman in Sicily > Moorish in Iberia.
I think I would say the same but I am unsure on the last two.
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2017, 10:22 PM
What is being measured exactly?
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 10:23 PM
What is being measured exactly?
DNA.
Voskos
05-13-2017, 10:23 PM
I'm sure there's many to be found. What are they waiting for?
they tested mycenean and minoan guys a whie ago but they only managed to get mtdna results.not sure why
Megadorian
05-13-2017, 10:24 PM
Didn't a previous study state that slavic adminixture was unexistant-very low in the areas like Mani, Lakonia(Mt Taygetos area home of tsakonians) and Crete? 0-5% right?
Voskos
05-13-2017, 10:26 PM
http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2008/05/mtdna-from-grave-circle-b-in-mycenae_07.html
http://dienekes.blogspot.gr/2013/05/mtdna-from-minoan-crete-hughey-et-al.html
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 10:26 PM
Didn't a previous study state that slavic adminixture was unexistant-very low in the areas like Mani, Lakonia(Mt Taygetos area home of tsakonians) and Crete? 0-5% right?
Yes, but you also have places like Epirus, Thessaly, Thrace, and Macedonia.
Cretans are genetically close to Sicilians. Southern Peloponnesians can be as well. But I mean Greece overall here.
Damiăo de Góis
05-13-2017, 10:31 PM
DNA.
Then the closest you'll get with speculation is by looking at Y-DNA, which is counting R1a in greeks, I1 in Sicilians and E-M81 in iberians.
And even so that's highly speculative.
Mn The Loki TA Son
05-13-2017, 10:32 PM
I think I would say the same but I am unsure on the last two.
I say it like that and taking consideration results for what each gets.
A Sicilian scores around 15%North Euro in gedmatch Dodecad, that must be due to Norman input.
While a Greek mainland like Thessalian today tend to score both high Baltic AND North Sea/Atlantic. And Iberians tend to score from 0-4%to 6% I think from what I seen in for North African score.
I think if compare an Canarian, it would be an unsure one. As they can score from 4-6% to high as 15%+ North African.
MysteriousWays
05-13-2017, 10:33 PM
Slavic in Greece>Norman in Sicily>Moorish in Iberia
Sikeliot
05-13-2017, 10:41 PM
Slavic in Greece>Norman in Sicily>Moorish in Iberia
I think I'd go with this order.
Erronkari
05-14-2017, 01:28 AM
First option doesn't lie...!
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