Which is higher/lowest:Visigoth in Iberia, Norman in Sicily, or Slavic in Greece?

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

A thread similar to Sikeliot one. But here using phenotype too. picture group samples to look at and say which seems the highest/lowest of the said

Rank and vote pleace. Rep given.
Pictures for each:
Iberians
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18422907_255108898229950_2254355875700083756_o.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=584cc083a58b80297edf423488df6bcb&oe=59B494D0
Sicilians
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18489617_255109064896600_6186881823178584902_o.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=22f37daadff432bc8aaa1dac03b1420c&oe=59AF38EC
Greeks
https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18489739_255109148229925_5532563857072731605_o.jpg ?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=6ca22118d3f30f08cffd6fd480f0c5f3&oe=59B7CA27

[Mortimer]

i voted second

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

The people used in the samples, I used normal natives for each.
For Iberians, from all over Iberia, accept Basques this time.

Sicilians from anywhere of Sicily.

Greeks from mainland (mainly from the northern side of the country and Macedonia).

[Dick]

Hard to say. Visigoths weren't purely Gothic by the time they reached Iberia anyway. They lived in the Balkans and mixed with the locals before migrating west and sacking Rome on the way.

On the other hand, the Suebi were of pure germanic stock when they reached Iberia/ northern Portugal.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Bump

[Voskos]

iberians are not pure meds by any means. northern genes are strong in them

[Damião de Góis]

I would say all three are low. Visigoths and Normans were not very numerous to make impact.
Don't know about slavs in Greece, or which historical period that refers to.

[Kriptc06]

Hard to say. Visigoths weren't purely Gothic by the time they reached Iberia anyway. They lived in the Balkans and mixed with the locals before migrating west and sacking Rome on the way.

On the other hand, the Suebi were of pure germanic stock when they reached Iberia/ northern Portugal.

maybe that how e-v13 got in iberia

http://www.worldology.com/Europe/images/decline_rome_visigoths.jpg

https://emojipedia-us.s3.amazonaws.com/cache/ac/c6/acc6d0cc2fa3030894e8979ca5c07a44.png

[Lavrentis]

There wasn't genetic impacts of Slavs in Greece. Those who invaded were eventually kicked out by the Byzantines. To be noted that they didn't live within the Greek population, but inside their own settlements called 'Sklavinies'. They revolted many times and the Byzantines sent them to Asia Minor to get rid of them. Then, the Arabs invaded Asia Minor, the Slavs sided with the Arabs, the Byzantines won and as a reprisal they slaughtered 200.000 Slavs, pretty much all of them.

This sums up what happened to the Slavs that invaded Greece, they didn't left any genetic impact.

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Berp

[Bell Beaker]

I would say Suebi influence is higher than Visgothic..... Particulary in Northern Portugal and Galicia.

http://www.scielo.mec.pt/img/revistas/dia/v27n2/27n2a16m5.jpg

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-e7d5c17e63f80640ab4d0a4008976da1

[Erronkari]

Option #2 doesn't lie!

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

Option #2 doesn't lie!

Anakin!

Agreed.

[Enflamme]

Hard to say. Visigoths weren't purely Gothic by the time they reached Iberia anyway. They lived in the Balkans and mixed with the locals before migrating west and sacking Rome on the way.

On the other hand, the Suebi were of pure germanic stock when they reached Iberia/ northern Portugal.

This.


Besides, I would like to add that many ethnic groups called "Spanish" (I prefer to use terms related to different ethnic groups, but I will simplify) resemble most ethnic group in the South of France. After that, of course, it depends on the corners. I think that all ethnic groups do not look alike (I'm going to upset some people, but that's my position), but if I were to compare, for example, Gascon and Catalan ethnic group, here's an example:

Catalans:

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7004/6501138049_052e3aaeb5.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7026/6501137867_71403b52b7.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7021/6501138211_6856fd3ac6.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7011/6501138363_6e2f09a9a4.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7145/6501138587_8c0b5d789d.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7013/6501138733_f32014cb3a.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2682/4323219285_355c5cc0bc_o.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2762/4323953456_c7c563998f_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/4323219655_f28b80525d_o.jpg



Gascons:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7171/6504166649_864daa7712.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6504166985_00284f2f4c.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7153/6504167101_ddca4ba350.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7005/6504167179_604965d99c_m.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6504167293_fbe7f9b477.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/4571357702_33b73647b6_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4044/4570721209_80509a0e3c_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4058/4571357920_a8527f14ac_o.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4570721899_047c7a36af_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3504/4570722031_01f7e35e73_o.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3442/4570721699_9a863c8bd9_o.jpg

[brennus dux gallorum]

I don't know about the rest, but in Greek case we know for sure that Slavic admixture is from 1%-19%, depending on the region, and but it's not the highest foreign admixture, considering 23andme results composed with official studies