Mongol (2007)

[Absinthe]

Mongol (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416044/)

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The story recounts the early life of Genghis Khan who was a slave before going on to conquer half the world including Russia in 1206.

http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/7531/mongol2yp3.jpg

Yesterday, as soon as I saw in the city guide that this movie was just released in Greece, I left work earlier, grabbed a taxi and rushed to see it... :lightbul:

I am still in awe, it was one of the best film I've seen in years, and undoubtedly the best historical film I've seen in years.

Nothing like 300 ultra-fake battle scenes and digital effects. This one was as realistic as it can get, still wonderfully and artistically directed.

The guy that plays Genghis Khan is absolutely amazing, his acting is close to perfection... :thumb001:

The movie is in the Mongolian and Mandarin languages, a fact that makes it even more intriguing.

If it's being played anywhere near you....hurry up!! :D

[Stegura]

If it's being played anywhere near you....hurry up!! :D

It's actually been out on DVD here for quite some time, but it definitely looks worth watching!

[Treffie]

I've been umming and arghing about renting this one out, but now that you've recommended it Absinthe, I think I'll have a look at it. :thumb001:

[Psychonaut]

Cool, I hadn't heard about this at all. It sounds fascinating, and will give me an excuse to work on my Mandarin a bit. :thumb001:

[Loki]

Nothing like 300 ultra-fake battle scenes and digital effects.

Good to know, 300 was one of the worst-made films I had ever seen. When I stepped out of the cinema I wondered why I had just wasted a few hours of my life, and paid for it!

[Spillip]

300 was an amazing film. It wasn't supposed to be historically accurate.

This film looks boring, but I suppose it'll show those few who didn't already know why most non-British Europeans are mongoloids.

[Loki]

300 was an amazing film. It wasn't supposed to be historically accurate.


The historical accuracy has nothing to do with its failure. It was just badly made and looked intensely fake. Bad acting and even worse visual effects.



This film looks boring, but I suppose it'll show those few who didn't already know why most non-British Europeans are mongoloids.

Go troll somewhere else.

[Spillip]

Go troll somewhere else.

I'll leave your forum when you leave my country. We don't need negroid influence in this pure land :thumb001:

[Loki]

I'll leave your forum when you leave my country. We don't need negroid influence in this pure land :thumb001:

Have you nothing better to do with your time? Or does Apricity fascinate you so much that you feel the need to troll here?

[Æmeric]

This film looks boring, but I suppose it'll show those few who didn't already know why most non-British Europeans are mongoloids.


It sounds as though you're an adherent of OneEnglishNorman's Mongoliformed Influenced Europe (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=98006) theory.


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Aemeric/MongoliformedMapII.gif

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Aemeric/21ezy10RevisedMongoliformmap.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Aemeric/15h1hjs.jpg



It was amusing the way the boundary on his maps kept shifting, I think to try & avoid offending the wrong people. He eventually decided to include all of Germany in the Fully Caucasiod Zone. :wink

[Beorn]

He eventually decided to include all of Germany in the Fully Caucasiod Zone. :wink

Considering that as kids, 'Mongol' meant someone who was deformed and/or an idiot, the inclusion of parts of Germany wouldn't be so unrealistic to some people we know. :D


EDIT: Meant to put this link in. http://www.watch-new-movies.org/you-are-watching-mongol

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really?

[SwordoftheVistula]

:D

[Lenny]

Good to know, 300 was one of the worst-made films I had ever seen. When I stepped out of the cinema I wondered why I had just wasted a few hours of my life, and paid for it!
Blasphemy! Even though it was highly simplistic and cartoonish, "300" was the only movie released this decade with a strongly pro-European message, that I know of.

The symbolism of the 300 whites fanatically defending Europe to the last man against multiracial hordes was unmistakable. I remember the line in which the nonwhite invading King asked the Greek leader to join him and "help me plant my battle standard in the heart of Europa", and he would make the Greek very wealthy. A blatant choice: Multiracial Empire and Peace, or Ethnic-Integrity and War? The Greeks chose the latter. And the audience cheered.

[Stegura]

Blasphemy! Even though it was highly simplistic and cartoonish, "300" was the only movie released this decade with a strongly pro-European message, that I know of..

The Lord of the Rings Trilogy had a very pro-European message too! ;)

[Lenny]

I still haven't seen any of those :(

[Stegura]

I still haven't seen any of those :(

Go for it! You'll love the movies! :thumb001:

When the LOTR Trilogy came out my friends and I often commented on how nice it was to be able to watch films that were really good, free of diversity, and all of the trappings of this degenerate modern pop culture.

I'd honestly be suprised if anything as pro-White/pro-European as LOTR is ever released again during our lifetimes.

[Lenny]

The way I see it, some form of European "racial" revival is inevitable during this century; whether it will be enough is another question.

When that happens, lots of pro-European movies will start popping up :thumbs up :icon_eek:

[SwordoftheVistula]

I really liked 300, but then I also liked Sin City which was filmed in a similar fashion. It's a stylization intended to capture the look of the graphic novel it was based on.

[chap]

(In response to Americ) Having been to Turkey I would not include the Western half as Asiatic influenced. Eastern Germany, Austria do have East Baltic types.


''Until this day it can be observed that some children born in an area around Berlin in Germany wear the blue Mongoloid spot at birth at the bases of their spines. Attila and his army had travelled through there, although his soldiers didn't rape the women and kill the men in that part of Germany. History has it that the soldiers under the command of one of his generals went AWOL after they had suffered a defeat in another part of Northern Germany and were on retreat. They hid in the woods and were eventually taken in and assimilated by the local population in that area where we now have Berlin. Obviously they were well-liked; therefore today's blue spots at the base of the spine of some babies born around Berlin and elsewhere.''

http://www.fathersforlife.org/fatherhood/attila.htm

[Lenny]

(In response to Americ) Having been to Turkey I would not include the Western half as Asiatic influenced. Eastern Germany, Austria do have East Baltic types.

''Until this day it can be observed that some children born in an area around Berlin in Germany wear the blue Mongoloid spot at birth at the bases of their spines. Attila and his army had travelled through there, although his soldiers didn't rape the women and kill the men in that part of Germany. History has it that the soldiers under the command of one of his generals went AWOL after they had suffered a defeat in another part of Northern Germany and were on retreat. They hid in the woods and were eventually taken in and assimilated by the local population in that area where we now have Berlin. Obviously they were well-liked; therefore today's blue spots at the base of the spine of some babies born around Berlin and elsewhere.''

http://www.fathersforlife.org/fatherhood/attila.htm

There are several reasons why that is suspect.

1. Although Germany does not like to think of itself as a "Migration-State", Berlin definitely is. It was populated by people coming from all other parts of the German-speaking world and even non-Germans (lots of Huguenots in the 1600s). The population of the Berlin area is not descended from the local population of 1,600 years ago that dwelt around the Spree river.
2. There are no real traces of the C or O haplogroups in Germany or any part of Europe (See here (http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/3928/ydnamapco8.jpg)). If there was enough input from Central Asian steppe peoples to cause such a physical legacy, why is there no genetic evidence?
3. Why would a local population "take in" and "assimilate" a mass of total strangers, all male, all soldiers, of completely alien racial strains, who do not speak the same language, etc. This seems more likely than not to be a tale made up out of whole cloth (http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/make+up+out+of+whole+cloth) by somebody.

[GUSTAVUS ADOLPHUS]

Good to know, 300 was one of the worst-made films I had ever seen. When I stepped out of the cinema I wondered why I had just wasted a few hours of my life, and paid for it!

This is madness! 300 was one of 2007's best films. I liked the message especially.

I saw Mongol some time last year. Wasn't too impressed.

[Loki]

This is madness! 300 was one of 2007's best films. I liked the message especially.


Like Lenny also pointed out, I also liked the message of European vs Asian victorious struggle -- that is why I went to see it in the first place. However, I probably expected more in terms of acting, realism and cinematography. If my expectations had been low to start with I probably would have enjoyed it more, but I left feeling disappointed and robbed.

[Aemma]

I still haven't seen any of those :(

Ack! Now that is blasphemy! :eek: :p

[Aemma]

Like Lenny also pointed out, I also liked the message of European vs Asian victorious struggle -- that is why I went to see it in the first place. However, I probably expected more in terms of acting, realism and cinematography. If my expectations had been low to start with I probably would have enjoyed it more, but I left feeling disappointed and robbed.

I can understand that. I think that most people were expecting a more traditional historical epic-type film and many ended up being quite disappointed. But as Sword points out, the film did exactly what it set out to do, and that is to translate the graphic novel onto film. I read the novel and saw the movie and I tell you, the film captured exactly the mood and feel of the book. It was meant to be a 'graphic novel on film' and I don't think that the filmmakers were aspiring to reach any loftier goals in the end.

As far as films go, I liked it. I liked its feel, the music, and Gerard Butler (ok, I'm shallow :rolleyes: :D). I wouldn't mind seeing this historical event made into a more traditional historical epic style of film one day, but for what it was, I thought it pretty good. :)


Cheers for now!...Aemma

[Stegura]

Good to know, 300 was one of the worst-made films I had ever seen. When I stepped out of the cinema I wondered why I had just wasted a few hours of my life, and paid for it!

Yeah! 300 was a pretty silly flick! ;)

Well the reason why the Greek Phalanx was virtually indestructible was because of their thick and durable armor. The real 300 didn't go off to battle in red speedos, red capes, and a helmet!

Also, why were most of the Persian messengers and Generals Black Africans?

Then their were the Immortals who wore the goofy looking silver ninja masks! And when their masks are unveiled we discover that they're just a bunch of subhuman looking Orcs!

http://www.oafe.net/monkey/art/neca300imm2.jpg

Then there was the 9 foot tall uber immortal with blue skin who fought Leonidas!

http://surbrook.devermore.net/adaptationsmovie/persian_giant.jpg

Xerxes was some 10 foot tall Brazilian metrosexual!

http://surl-octuplesentier.blogspirit.com/images/300Xerx%C3%A8s.jpg

Then there was some really fake grossly overweight orange-skinned monster creature with saws for arms! (couldn't find the pic!)

[Aemma]

The real 300 didn't go off to battle in red speedos, red capes, and a helmet!

They didn't? Well you sure know how to burst a girl's bubble, Stegura! :p

[Sarmata]

They didn't? Well you sure know how to burst a girl's bubble, Stegura! :p

Fortunatelly they didn't. Guys who wear red panties looks like queers to me:)

Real Spartan:
http://i40.tinypic.com/dm3db4.jpg

[Osweo]

I'm faintly embarrassed at not having seen Mongol yet!

(It could be brought up that according to native Mongol tradition he was of slightly more Europoid pigmentation than the actor chosen, but I suppose it's hard finding such a peculiar looking type who can act as well!)


Speaking of Mandarin language films, anybody else seen that 'Assembly' film yet? My brother got it for Christmas, and we all watched it that day. Pretty impressive thing about the Civil War in China, and the veterans' desire to clear the name of those who were years later still not recognised as 'fallen in battle', their families living with the 'missing in action' possible 'deserter' stigma.

[demiirel]

(It could be brought up that according to native Mongol tradition he was of slightly more Europoid pigmentation than the actor chosen, but I suppose it's hard finding such a peculiar looking type who can act as well!)


The movie was good, but the actual Mongol representation among the actors was small. Europoid pigmented Mongols are all over the steppe. The Japanese actor could not pronounce Mongolian well.

The child Borte (true Khalkha Mongol) in the beginning did look a bit Europoid-pigmented and fair-haired (at 3:33 below).

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[Pallantides]

It sounds as though you're an adherent of OneEnglishNorman's Mongoliformed Influenced Europe (http://forums.skadi.net/showthread.php?t=98006) theory.


http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Aemeric/MongoliformedMapII.gif

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Aemeric/21ezy10RevisedMongoliformmap.jpg

http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg201/Aemeric/15h1hjs.jpg



It was amusing the way the boundary on his maps kept shifting, I think to try & avoid offending the wrong people. He eventually decided to include all of Germany in the Fully Caucasiod Zone. :wink

Rofl

Seems that 'Sørlandet' is spared from the Mongliform influence:D

[Dombra]

If I remember correctly, most in the movie is made up. Although some parts are true most the whole not imo

The spawn of Xtras realization xD