Tosk salad

[Megadorian]

Two studies

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Ish7688voT0/S6ZYexugWoI/AAAAAAAACVA/1I9HXeBDFQY/s1600/albanians.png

http://www.nature.com/ejhg/journal/v24/n4/full/ejhg2015138a.html

-] 2.48% H1, attributed to South Asian+Romani(gypsy) populations

-] 6% R1a(absent in Ghegs) plus 25% I(I1+ two subclades of I2a) attributed to Balto-Slavic and Germanic(norman) populations

-]1.65% J1(also absent in Ghegs), attributed to Gulf Arabic populations, peaks in Yemen(73%)

-]3.34% K-M9(also absent in Ghegs) ancestor of K2(Southeast Asian) and LT(South Asian)

More than 1 of 3(38.47%)Tosk Albanian males has clear non-albanian origins

[Kelmendasi]

Why are you so butt-hurt?

[Kelmendasi]

Your also a bull-shitter as Ghegs have higher J1 and it's due to Phoenicians during the Roman period and not Arabs,

[Voskos]

to LT einai ontws south asian alla eftase sthn eurwph xiliades xronia prin.

[Megadorian]

Where did Tosk H1 come from? I know ghegs don't have it, also why the K-M9?

ghegs have no R1a and lower I2a, both balto-slavic haplogroups, why is the south so crammed with slavic toponyms?

http://macedonia.kroraina.com/seli_sna/selish_slavic_names.png



Also explain this

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/J1.png

[Kelmendasi]

J1 is a semiticized lineage as proto-semites were E-M34 but the natives in the fertile crescent were J2 and J1 meaning that the Semites absorbed it upon their arrival and it was further spread during the Hellenic and Roman conquests

[Voskos]

Where did Tosk H1 come from? I know ghegs don't have it, also why the K-M9?

ghegs have no R1a and lower I2a, both balto-slavic haplogroups, why is the south so crammed with slavic toponyms?

http://macedonia.kroraina.com/seli_sna/selish_slavic_names.png



Also explain this

http://www.thegeneticatlas.com/J1.png

...

[Kelmendasi]

H1a is a Gypsy/Romani lineage

[Megadorian]

efcharisto, den ixera(LT)

[Megadorian]

You agree about H1 being gypsy admixture? Also that Tosks are much more slavic influenced? look at the toponyms and how high i2a and r1a is

[Voskos]

H1a is a Gypsy/Romani lineage

Most Romanian posters here are H1a , most likely.

[Kelmendasi]

Most Romanian posters here are H1a , most likely.
kek

[Voskos]

efcharisto, den ixera(LT)

no problem aderfe. parempiptontws to T1 vrethike se skeletous apo neolithikous oikismous se vulgaria kai germania.

[Kelmendasi]

I2a-din is really high in Toskeria when compared to Ghegenia though

[Kamal900]

J1 is a semiticized lineage as proto-semites were E-M34 but the natives in the fertile crescent were J2 and J1 meaning that the Semites absorbed it upon their arrival and it was further spread during the Hellenic and Roman conquests

True considering that both today's Arabians and Egyptians cluster very closely together, and they cluster the closest to the neolithic and early bronze age levantines in contrast to other peoples of the world.

[Kelmendasi]

True considering that both today's Arabians and Egyptians cluster very closely together, and they cluster the closest to the neolithic and early bronze age levantines in contrast to other peoples of the world.
Most Arabs from the Levant or Mesopotamia are in fact Arabized natives, but the Arabs in Saudi Arabia and the Arabian peninsula are pure Arabs IMO

[Kamal900]

Most Arabs from the Levant or Mesopotamia are in fact Arabized natives, but the Arabs in Saudi Arabia and the Arabian peninsula are pure Arabs IMO

You can say that, but of course, Arabization came with admixture with the locals which is why the Muslims tend to cluster more closer to Arabia and north Africa in contrast to the Christians and other genetically isolated groups like the Druze. I'm an Arabized Levantine for the most part genetically, lol. The reason why me and other predominately genetically Levantine peoples today cluster more further away from the ancient neolithic Levantines and early Bronze age Levantines is due because the Levantine genetic structure became more northern as the west Asiatic migrants from Anatolia and Iran began migrating their during the late bronze age and early Iron age periods. The Levantines ancestors of both Egyptians and Arabians left the Levant in the second wave where they were very Levantine with some west Asiatic admixture.

My results:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210371-Your-ancestors-15K-amp-4-5K-years-ago-Eurogenes-K36-new-Tool&p=4410333&viewfull=1#post4410333

My Egyptian Coptic friends:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210371-Your-ancestors-15K-amp-4-5K-years-ago-Eurogenes-K36-new-Tool&p=4410980&viewfull=1#post4410980
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?210371-Your-ancestors-15K-amp-4-5K-years-ago-Eurogenes-K36-new-Tool&p=4410390&viewfull=1#post4410390

PCA chart of an ancient Semitic speaker from the early bronze age in North-West Jordan:
http://pichoster.net/images/2017/05/08/8b08d747b7b37f11ddd65c2c94a1c2bd.jpg

Using Global 10...

Jordan_EBA:I1705

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
0.01688859 0.02702003 0.04230395 0.05042037
Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
0.05977330 0.06250903 0.06827656 0.06843083


Jordan_EBA:I1706

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
0.01121590 0.02529517 0.04461211 0.04794086
Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Tigray Ethiopian_Amhara
0.05747952 0.05955161 0.06446322 0.06449131


Jordan_EBA:I1730

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Saudi Egyptian Assyrian Tunisian
0.01660947 0.02594147 0.04452045 0.04673384
Algerian Moroccan Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
0.05612227 0.05860530 0.06685817 0.06699568


All three Jordan_EBA samples are closer to contemporary (understand non-Coptic, SSA-admixed, muslim) Egyptians.

Levant_Neolithic:I0867

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
0.03566195 0.04554086 0.04641960 0.05063521
Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
0.05151626 0.05912316 0.07079567 0.07148614


Levant_Neolithic:I1699

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
0.03387947 0.04357623 0.04656148 0.05174627
Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
0.05200293 0.06092333 0.07082936 0.07146232


Levant_Neolithic:I1704

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Saudi Egyptian Tunisian Moroccan
0.03183015 0.03921102 0.03989456 0.04466378
Algerian Saharawi Ethiopian_Amhara Ethiopian_Tigray
0.04533574 0.05414230 0.06520587 0.06581918

http://pichoster.net/images/2017/05/09/f298277a07218e4a5c8da2647542082e.jpg