The EURO Will Be FORCED ON ALL EU Member States

[Anthropos]

According to a secret decision of the European Commission (EC), all member states will sooner or later join the Euro currency. According to Frankfurter Allgemeine (FAZ), the decision will take full effect i 2025, but in response to the article in FAZ, the EC has said that the year is not correct. The EC plans were somehow leaked to the press.

Brüssel fordert mehr Geld für den Euroraum (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/eurokrise/eu-kommission-fordert-mehr-geld-fuer-den-eurozone-15026944.html)
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/wirtschaft/eurokrise/eu-kommission-fordert-mehr-geld-fuer-den-eurozone-15026944.html

Nine out of the 27 member states have not joined the Euro: Bulgaria, Croatia, Czechia, Denmark, Hungary, Poland, Romania, Sweden and The UK.

[Hàkon]

To report about it as a decision is a grave misrepresentation. The EC is discussing recommendations to propose for the furthering of the EU cooperation, which includes the EMU. (Besides implementing the Euro, there have been talks about an additional EU-tax.)

To put it short, as opposed as I am to the EU, this is unnecessarily alarmist.

[Anthropos]

alarmistNo it isn't. The EC's reply was only that the year is incorrect. That may well mean that tacitly they are confirming the validity of the leak.

@Hakon: Further complaints may be sent to FAZ, who published it.

[Grab the Gauge]

It will be forced anally up dat ass

[Hàkon]

No it isn't. The EC's reply was only that the year is incorrect. That may well mean that tacitly they are confirming the validity of the leak.

@Hakon: Further complaints may be sent to FAZ, who published it.

To present it as something other than recommendations (without a deadline) that cannot override decisions on a local level is alarmist.

I'd advice people to read.

Sweden will definitely cave in though, unless SD gains power 2018.

[Anthropos]

There is only one good thing to do about the EU, and that is to leave it and to cease to be a part of it.

[щрбл]

Meh.

The daily amount of news, either reporting abuse of high positioned officicals, local elites, or hinting at mass media manipulations and what not, is so unbelievably high, that it seems as this kind of talks is something normal, which is not.

And so, apparently, the document was "leaked", but why wasn't it public in the first place? Why isn't every single official meeting public and documented, at all? I find this not only outrageous but dangerous and sadly forewarning of the political and adminstrative monstruosity the union is currently turning into.

[Smitty]

If this is the case, will any countries opt out entirely?

[Hithaeglir]

It sounds like bullshit to me. First of all the UK will seize to be a member before the aformentioned date ,so we have one out already.
For the rest :

-Sweden has NO profit at all from it!!! It's currency is strong so is its economy,if your government wanted or saw any positive aspects in the Eurozone,they would have done it already.
-Bulgaria and Croatia still need reforms or they will end up suffocating like us.Romania the same.
-Hungary and Poland could probably be on the way on their own,without any enforcement.

[Odin]

Sweden will definitely cave in though, unless SD gains power 2018.

Do you think SD would win the election next year?

[Hàkon]

Do you think SD would win the election next year?
It looks unlikely. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Swedish_general_election,_ 2018) But it's not impossible.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Swedish_Opinion_Polling%2C_30_Day_Moving_Average%2 C_2014-2018.png

I'm hoping for an invitaion to cooperate from the established block on the right.

[Anthropos]

Do you think SD would win the election next year?

Their support has been stable around 25% and higher, and in recent polls from the Norwegian institute Sentio, the most reliable one when you look at their track record, SD are the biggest party.

The problem with parlamentarism however is that when everyone else cooperates against you, as a party you need an absolute majority and more than 50% of the seats to lead effectively. Sweden's system doesn't let voters decide who will be the prime minister either, meaning that voters have little to no control over who is going to form the government. After last election, any of the two old political blocks could have formed a government, and ideally the SD would have been a part of the government, but instead all the other seven parties decided to shut them out from having any influence.