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Breathe
05-23-2017, 05:30 AM
The arrticle says that the Vikings may not have been the first people to discover Iceland, Greenland and Canada. I think they were the discoverers because roman coins have been found in Iceland and Canada.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3364818/Did-ROMANS-discover-America-Sword-Oak-Island-suggests-ancient-mariners-set-foot-New-World-Columbus-according-radical-theory.html

http://icelandmonitor.mbl.is/news/news/2015/12/18/romans_discovered_america_not_icelanders/

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
08-27-2017, 10:00 AM
Asians discovered the americans before 10,000bc. Dont know why people are arguing about who found it first.

Smeagol
08-27-2017, 10:12 AM
Ultimately there's no real proof as the article even pointed out. Only non-amerindian group actually proven beyond a doubt to have discovered the americas before Columbus is the Vikings.

Tietar
08-27-2017, 11:05 AM
Vikings or Romans discovered a shit

Discover means to make known the world and put it on the world map. Asians were the first to arrive, later probably more people arrived, but none discovered anything. America remained hidden until 1492

Laberia
08-27-2017, 11:11 AM
When i was a kid, one of my heroes was Thor Heyerdahl (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thor_Heyerdahl#Boats_Ra_and_Ra_II).

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
08-27-2017, 11:21 AM
Vikings or Romans discovered a shit

Discover means to make known the world and put it on the world map. Asians were the first to arrive, later probably more people arrived, but none discovered anything. America remained hidden until 1492No it doesnt. It means to find something first. Europeans just removed and force assimilated a pre existing population depending which group it was. Arabs discovered Europe?

Autrigón
08-27-2017, 11:52 AM
Time ago I heard that The Templars of the Middle Age discovered America and extracted silver from the American mines...and that's why they were so rich and had many power.
This have relation with the theories that say Christopher Columbus was Templar and knew the secret of the existence of the new continent.

Who knows...

Selurong
08-27-2017, 11:57 AM
Time ago I heard that The Templars of the Middle Age discovered America and extracted silver from the American mines...and that's why they were so rich and had many power.
This have relation with the theories that say Christopher Columbus was Templar and knew the secret of the existence of the new continent.

Who knows...Lol. That's actually a campaign in the Age of Empires 3 video game.

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Autrigón
08-27-2017, 12:05 PM
Lol. That's actually a campaign in the Age of Empires 3 video game.Obviously because the creator of "Age of Empires 3" is Templar too. ;)

Tietar
08-27-2017, 02:02 PM
No it doesnt. It means to find something first. Europeans just removed and force assimilated a pre existing population depending which group it was. Arabs discovered Europe?

With that stupid reasoning, the dinosaurs discovered America much earlier than the Amerindians

Kelmendasi
08-27-2017, 02:03 PM
Neither Romans nor Vikings first stepped foot in it, Asians from north east Asia did. As for who mapped/discovered it afaik Vikings did

Peterski
08-27-2017, 02:05 PM
It is possible that Vikings were using some old Roman swords.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
08-27-2017, 02:06 PM
With that stupid reasoning, the dinosaurs discovered America much earlier than the AmerindiansThey did.. whatsyour point?

They just werent as concious

Odin
11-14-2017, 10:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6o4FdQzBWhY

Peterski
11-16-2017, 10:07 PM
Ultimately there's no real proof as the article even pointed out. Only non-amerindian group actually proven beyond a doubt to have discovered the americas before Columbus is the Vikings.

Nope. Polynesians discovered Americas beyond a doubt:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuJk_a4iWj0

Odin
11-16-2017, 10:11 PM
^ Already debunked. (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140318-polynesian-chickens-pacific-migration-america-science/)

wvwvw
11-16-2017, 10:11 PM
Set foot on =/= discovered.

Spaniards weren't the first to set foot on America, but they were the first to discover it and, like Tietar said "to put it on a map"

Peterski
11-16-2017, 10:17 PM
^ Already debunked. (https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/03/140318-polynesian-chickens-pacific-migration-america-science/)

That doesn't debunk it. There is more evidence for it than just chickens.

Odin
11-16-2017, 10:24 PM
That doesn't debunk it. There is more evidence for it than just chickens.

The documentary you posted is an old one.

Odin
05-11-2019, 12:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gn1SUV5vaI4

gıulıoımpa
05-11-2019, 12:18 PM
just to answer to someone, the Vinland map has been proven to be a fake. although the pergamen was actually period correct , the ink was proven to be written in the 1800's .

other note:
discovery is the geographical (odeporical)equivalent of an historical source. Just like history is made on documents and sources the history of geographical discoveries (odeporic experiences) must be the same way.what is discovered, to be such must appear in some kind of document (geographical map ) .

given this information we can only confirm the date of 1492 by Cristoforo Colombo. (give a look at his notes they are interesting. also by the third voyage you can tell he doubts those are the indies. however never explicitely says such. the thing is his "contract" of capitan with the spanish crown specified his duty to discover the indies...Colombo knew that they were already trying to push him out, given the importance of his discovery, and tried to prevent any occasion of possible controversy). imagine being sent to discover one thing and you say you discovered something else.

Odin
05-11-2019, 12:25 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4o1a3wzzeq8

sean
06-27-2019, 03:14 PM
The northern tip of Newfoundland is widely regarded as Vinland, a land talked about in thousands of year old sagas. The fact that there is a south western settlement is big deal, because we know they simply didn't settle on the tip and leave. They tried negotiating and trading with natives (probably the savage Beothuk) and soon left to go back to Iceland and Greenland. There are stories of tall white people told by native tribes that lived here once upon a time.

Adamastor
06-27-2019, 03:49 PM
Siberian/North Eurasian ancestors of Amerindians discovered 'America', they were the first humans here. Spaniards ''discovered'' America to Europe, but it doesn't matter because doesn't revolve around Europe. Let's be more rational and less sentimental, boys.