Classify and Place Antonin Artaud

[JMack]

https://sagradocacete.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/artaud02.jpg

http://www.grusomhetensteater.no/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/artaud_final.jpg

https://comeheretome.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/artaud.jpg?w=500


He looks very Sardinian or Corsican to my eyes.

[JMack]

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[Truth Preacher]

Looks like a more robust version of barkoo


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[Grab the Gauge]

Looks mixed with non-Whites.

[Fractal]

Looks mixed with non-Whites.

lol

[Governor]

SSA strong.

[Ouistreham]

Looks mixed with non-Whites.

His mother was from Smyrna (Izmir), Turkey.
I don't think she was Jewish, rather from a Christian community mixing Greeks, Armenians and Italians.

[catgeorge]

He is native Anatolian from both sides of his family

Being a dramatic artist does that to you being in the company of Turks

[Ouistreham]

He is native Anatolian from both sides of his family

No. Only his mother's side is Italo-Hellenic-Anatolian.
Paternal side is from Marseille.

Just checked his genealogy on geneanet.com
http://gw.geneanet.org/colombserge?lang=fr&iz=189293&m=A&p=antoine+marie+joseph+dit+antonin&n=artaud&siblings=on&notes=on&t=T&v=6&image=on&marriage=on&full=on
http://gw.geneanet.org/marmara2?lang=fr&m=A&p=antoine+marie+joseph&n=artaud&siblings=on&notes=on&t=T&v=6&image=on&marriage=on&full=on

Surnames on the paternal side:
· Artaud
· Jacquèmes
· Mariaud
· Bourillon
· Roche
· Mille
· Magnan
· Brest
· Auberic


On the mother side:
· Chili
· Gieda
· Nalpas (Nalpasoglu)
· Filipucci

[JMack]

No. Only his mother's side is Italo-Hellenic-Anatolian.
Paternal side is from Marseille.


Do you think he could pass unnoticed through all France?

[Ouistreham]

Do you think he could pass unnoticed through all France?

In mainstream France, some foreign origins would be an obvious hypothesis.
But along the Southern rim, everything goes. Pan-Med + Alpinid input types like him can pass as pure-bred Marseillais.

[Percivalle]

https://parisshanghaifashion.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/01-man-ray_antonin-artaud.jpg



No. Only his mother's side is Italo-Hellenic-Anatolian.
Paternal side is from Marseille.

Just checked his genealogy on geneanet.com
http://gw.geneanet.org/colombserge?lang=fr&iz=189293&m=A&p=antoine+marie+joseph+dit+antonin&n=artaud&siblings=on¬es=on&t=T&v=6&image=on&marriage=on&full=on
http://gw.geneanet.org/marmara2?lang=fr&m=A&p=antoine+marie+joseph&n=artaud&siblings=on¬es=on&t=T&v=6&image=on&marriage=on&full=on

Surnames on the paternal side:
· Artaud
· Jacquèmes
· Mariaud
· Bourillon
· Roche
· Mille
· Magnan
· Brest
· Auberic


On the mother side:
· Chili
· Gieda
· Nalpas (Nalpasoglu)
· Filipucci

If you check his family tree, his paternal grandfather, Marius Pierre Artaud, married Catherine Chili (or Chile), while his maternal grandfather, Louis Nalpas, married Mariette Chili (or Chile). Catherine Chili and Mariette Chili were sisters, born to a Maltese father and to a mother from Marseille (surname Gieda could be Polish in origin, its origin is not clear, in any case it's not Italian nor French in that form). Mariette Chili, who was the elder sister, was born in Malta, Catherine Chili was born two years later in Smyrne, Izmir, Turkey.


L'acte de décès (registre de l'église cathédrale et paroissiale de Smyrne sous le titre de l'Immaculée Conception) dit que «L'an mil huit cent trente-six, ... La nationalité maltaise d'Antoine Chili est encore attestée par l'acte de baptême de la petite Catherine, célébré le 22 mai 1833 dans la même église, qui la dit «née du légitime mariage d'Antoine Chili de Malte, et de Marianne Gieda de Marseille».

Marius Pierre Artaud was born in Istres, Bouches-du-Rhône, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, France, while Louis Nalpas was born in Smyrne to a father from the Greek community in Smyrne, Turkey, and to Francesca Filipucci (Filipazzo, Filipousis) who was born in Tinos, Nomós Kykládon, Cyclades, Greece, descendant of a Venetian family who moved to Cyclades, Greece, in 1600.

If the family tree is correct, Antonin Artaud was of 1/4 French (Istres), 1/4 a mix of Greek and Italian, 1/4 Maltese, 1/4 French (Marsaille) with a non-French surname.

It seems that inbreeding was common in his family, also Louise Rose Marie Alexandrine Artaud married a Nalpas, John (Jean) Etienne Nalpas.

[JMack]

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[JMack]

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[Hadouken]

looks more Romanian to me

[JMack]

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