Sikeliot level Greek taxonomy

[Linet]

Can you tell from where these kids are from?

The photos are from : Crete, Cyprus, Nafplio/Peloponnese, Sparta/Peloponnese, Volos/Thessaly, Ioannina/Epirus, Kavala/Macedonia
Can you spot the Slavisised Greeks? :eyes

For those who arent familiar with Greek areas, here is a map...
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18699750_10155260705551763_6147157035026073899_o.j pg?oh=06fd2169759c5b5bf81c8dd0b26197f7&oe=59B294FC


I cant spot the differences but for Sikeliot this should be a piece of cake since for him Greeks from North and South look significaly different....
How about you common humans? Can you spot the differences?

1.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18622351_10155260683221763_2163614019621782954_n.j pg?oh=e37b524eea4bfc0b9492525fb160d0fe&oe=59A96730
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18623454_10155260683241763_8229494158040694868_o.j pg?oh=cf1b80c3fb1ab5333221d3f6fc2236de&oe=59E72A7C


2.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18739754_10155260684191763_927069976840187193_n.jp g?oh=bb3d8c753e663319849f30bb507c5243&oe=59E94908
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18738767_10155260685186763_5730140747125510397_o.j pg?oh=bcff025f0de553f37685f1c54a3270bc&oe=59B81C17

3.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18740554_10155260683606763_5552534758017414495_n.j pg?oh=2752844b066ebf66a177fc02bcdb21ca&oe=59A1B6B4

4.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18698177_10155260685041763_3762013381405310836_n.j pg?oh=530c11a4591049e15bf25b47610c4e88&oe=59B2E93F
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18670986_10155260684061763_3844385543248408372_n.j pg?oh=9d2a3435f21d40e7a3afe460a3154071&oe=59AAE976

5.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18670758_10155260683476763_6303612262028386861_n.j pg?oh=a8061b2ceaf1d894a87cd71667a4fc44&oe=599F0A48
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18698446_10155260684356763_9169018500478135419_n.j pg?oh=0d054d6ac703198d0cd60d891fcad7ce&oe=59BAADAB

6.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18664320_10155260684441763_3369863539853031094_n.j pg?oh=26f6fa5d624b5cb97d9e3c7e103b9560&oe=59BC4268

7.
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18740047_10155260684886763_570090960427496611_n.jp g?oh=475b7623262fb563b58b475355de36ca&oe=59BCAD61
https://scontent.fath2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18698105_10155260683746763_246380837186650785_n.jp g?oh=15604c03e1dfa1239f7e5dae06a9d53a&oe=59AC9CFC

[Linet]

my photos dont appear?????? :angry:
AAARRRG....i will fix that....

[Linet]

Fixed :D
Who guess? :dance:
Btw the people from Sparta are actually from my village....so the Spartans are easy....just choose those that look like me :p

[JMack]

Some of them certainly are not native Greeks/Europeans.

I have seen at least some Asians/Gypsies.

[Linet]

Some of them certainly are not native Greeks/Europeans.

I have seen at least some Asians/Gypsies.

Well i saw a girl of Asian ancestry as well but those are kids from schools so most will be Greeks :sunny:

I see no gypsies....or other Asians....:eusa_eh:

[Lavrentis]

Some of them certainly are not native Greeks/Europeans.

I have seen at least some Asians/Gypsies.

Some are definitely of Anatolian and Pontian descent.

[Linet]

Some are definitely of Anatolian and Pontian descent.

I didnt ask for their dna tests.... :chin:


....Now dear, try to find who is who....it should be easy...Cypriots should look like Levantines :taliban:, Cretans like semi-Levantines and Macedonians and Epirotans should be Slavizised :valkyrie: as Sikeliot has taught us...

And for you Lavrenti....since you think that you see Anatolian Greeks among them that look different from the rest of our nation.....then those must be in Macedonia and Epirus....so easier for you....show me your powers :fdancing:


Come on people.....Easy......:eyes...... Try....i wont bite :vampire ....much :naughty:

[Lavrentis]

I didnt ask for their dna tests.... :chin:


....Now dear, try to find who is who....it should be easy...Cypriots should look like Levantines :taliban:, Cretans like semi-Levantines and Macedonians and Epirotans should be Slavizised :valkyrie: as Sikeliot has taught us...

And for you Lavrenti....since you think that you see Anatolian Greeks among them that look different from the rest of our nation.....then those must be in Macedonia and Epirus....so easier for you....show me your powers :fdancing:


Come on people.....Easy......:eyes...... Try....i wont bite :vampire: ....much :naughty:

As I've said before, I agree with Sikeliot on some things, but I disagree with him on others, mostly on Greek phenotypes.

I can't tell the region from the photos obviously. Also, Anatolian and Pontian Greeks can be found anywhere in Greece, it's just that there are more in northern Greece.

[Tooting Carmen]

Photo three is Cypriots, photo four is Cretans, the rest I don't know.

[Tooting Carmen]

Btw, it still astonishes me how even as children so few Greeks (especially the men) have hair lighter than medium brown.

[Dorian]

As I've said before, I agree with Sikeliot on some things, but I disagree with him on others, mostly on Greek phenotypes.

I can't tell the region from the photos obviously. Also, Anatolian and Pontian Greeks can be found anywhere in Greece, it's just that there are more in northern Greece.

Se kovo taktiko episkepti sto fyletika e?

[Linet]

As I've said before, I agree with Sikeliot on some things, but I disagree with him on others, mostly on Greek phenotypes.

I can't tell the region from the photos obviously. Also, Anatolian and Pontian Greeks can be found anywhere in Greece, it's just that there are more in northern Greece.

I can tell you that in my village in Lakonia (Sparta for the non Greeks) we have none.... find my village please....they are the prettier ones....just like me http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-114.gif?1292792409
Ante....stop talking and work...find them....taxonomy now http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/whip-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862526

[Linet]

Btw, it still astonishes me how even as children so few Greeks (especially the men) have hair lighter than medium brown.

...show me some of your high schoold kids please....i want to see their flowing blond hair.... :eyes

[Newsboy]

Blonde hair may not be that common among Greeks, but jet black hair (like East Asians, most Mexicans, or most Middle Easterners) is just as rare if not more.

On topic, I'm not sure. This is a harder one. But pic 3 could be Cypriots.

[Tooting Carmen]

...show me some of your high schoold kids please....i want to see their flowing blond hair.... :eyes

The schools I went to were filled with children of South Asian descent. xD

Nevertheless, here is a school near my house for you:
http://fluencycontent2-schoolwebsite.netdna-ssl.com/FileCluster/OLCHFAcomprehensive/MainFolder/Images-1920x600/Olchfa-School-109.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/8f3948e853ab41ec903a7d153ed5b3ba/_w/IMG_7437_JPG.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/2a090b05ee2e4d3dbdaca9000d08c010/_w/IMG_7375_JPG.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/998ffc0fa2e04583ae0db34ae9abbbf6/_w/Swansea%20School%20Cup%20Winners_JPG.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/998ffc0fa2e04583ae0db34ae9abbbf6/_w/end%20march%202014%20029_JPG.jpghttp://fluencycontent2-schoolwebsite.netdna-ssl.com/FileCluster/OLCHFAcomprehensive/MainFolder/DofE-Gold-October-2016-2-a.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/52c425203a5e41fca13fffabb02bb8d1/_w/IMG_1278[1]_JPG.jpghttp://fluencycontent2-schoolwebsite.netdna-ssl.com/FileCluster/OLCHFAcomprehensive/MainFolder/video-bg.jpghttp://francisorr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/teachers2.jpghttp://www.swansea.ac.uk/media/Olchfa.jpghttp://fluencycontent2-schoolwebsite.netdna-ssl.com/FileCluster/OLCHFAcomprehensive/MainFolder/ncat-2.jpghttp://mm.aiircdn.com/79/859073.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/385a42934756413c94433a74026b52e4/_w/_20160625_151547_JPG.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/52c425203a5e41fca13fffabb02bb8d1/_w/IMG_1405[1]_JPG.jpghttps://swansea-edunet.gov.uk/en/schools/Olchfa/SchoolGallery/c38a72f132a74c088ccc2e4903b5b8ca/_w/DSC_0260_JPG.jpghttp://swanseabaypartnership.co.uk/getfile.php?type=site_images&id=semi_final_pic.jpg

[Linet]

Where is Sikeliot when you need him? :tsk:
Chickens :chicken: ....chickens everywhere.....they dont try to guess....i feel alone :cry2 .....noone will guess my levantine Cypriots and Slavizised Macedonians.....ah....vah....:puppy_dp:

[Linet]

The schools I went to were filled with children of South Asian descent. xD

Nevertheless, here is a school near my house for you:


heeey...do not cheat http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/whaaat1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862525....i was expecting the kids from Colombia not England :disapproving:...thank you, i know North Euros are blonder, everybody does .....i admit no defeat http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/raccoon/tedy-raccoon-emoticon.gif?1302774079

[Newsboy]

Where is Sikeliot when you need him? :tsk:
Chickens :chicken: ....chickens everywhere.....they dont try to guess....i feel alone :Cry2:.....noone will guess my levantine Cypriots and Slavizised Macedonians.....ah....vah....:puppy_dp:

Cock a doodle doo!

This was tricky. I still guessed something (#3 being Cypriots). Even if I got it wrong.

Wait until Sike posts in this thread. His answer should be interesting.

#2 are Cypriots?

[Linet]

Cock a doodle doo!

This was tricky. I still guessed something (#3 being Cypriots).

Wait until Sike posts in this thread. His answer should be interesting.

I expect this thread to crash his dreams of Slavizised Macedonias and Levantine Cypriots http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/evil-smile-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862503

buahahaahahahha

[Tooting Carmen]

heeey...do not cheat http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/whaaat1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862525....i was expecting the kids from Colombia not England :disapproving:...thank you, i know North Euros are blonder, everybody does .....i admit no defeat http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/raccoon/tedy-raccoon-emoticon.gif?1302774079

(1) I never went to school in Colombia. (2) These children are from Wales, not England xD. Anyway, if you're interested, here is a private school in Bogota: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207241-State-the-main-phenotypes-of-these-rich-Colombians-and-where-can-they-pass

[Linet]

(1) I never went to school in Colombia. (2) These children are from Wales, not England xD. Anyway, if you're interested, here is a private school in Bogota: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207241-State-the-main-phenotypes-of-these-rich-Colombians-and-where-can-they-pass

haaaaa :heh: .....not blonder than us ....you 0 - 1 me....i won :cupgold0:, is final, i agree with me, dont try to dispute the result :no:

[Tooting Carmen]

haaaaa :heh: .....not blonder than us ....you 0 - 1 me....i won :cupgold0:, is final, i agree with me, dont try to dispute the result :no:

I never said they were. I was just commenting on how, for a European population (which Colombians are not), Greeks seem extremely brunette.

[Linet]

I never said they were. I was just commenting on how, for a European population (which Colombians are not), Greeks seem extremely brunette.

For a Mediterranean population we are what we should be :sunny: ....now if you compare us to the Germanics :viking1: and Northeners in General :snow: .....well we are darker....but in this case is like wondering why apples arent orange like oranges are just because they are both fruits....we are meds....meeeeeeds....we have suuuuuuun.... http://yoursmiles.org/tsmile/summer/t119002.gif

[nafz]

#3 is definitely Nafplio, Peloponnese.

You can see part of the Palamidi rock on the background.

[Kamal900]

I didnt ask for their dna tests.... :chin:


....Now dear, try to find who is who....it should be easy...Cypriots should look like Levantines :taliban:, Cretans like semi-Levantines and Macedonians and Epirotans should be Slavizised :valkyrie: as Sikeliot has taught us...

And for you Lavrenti....since you think that you see Anatolian Greeks among them that look different from the rest of our nation.....then those must be in Macedonia and Epirus....so easier for you....show me your powers :fdancing:


Come on people.....Easy......:eyes...... Try....i wont bite :vampire ....much :naughty:

Cypriots do look like Levantines for the most part, and they cluster more closer to the Levant than to the mainland Greece.

[nafz]

I never said they were. I was just commenting on how, for a European population (which Colombians are not), Greeks seem extremely brunette.

In Europe hair color lightens as you go up latitudinally.

So hair-colorwise Greece is on par with other European nations that are on the same latitude.

[Linet]

Cypriots do look like Levantines for the most part, and they cluster more closer to the Levant than to the mainland Greece.

Then who are they? They must be easy to spot :chin:

[Kamal900]

Then who are they? They must be easy to spot :chin:

Post 3. Cypriots are Greek speaking Levantines in terms of genetics ad race are concerned. I cluster with these people as well:
puntDNAL K15 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.78
2 Mediterranean 32.67
3 SW_Asian 17.24
4 Horn_Of_Africa 7.18
5 NE_European 3.69
6 S_Indian 2.99


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Palestinian @ 3.198529
2 Lebanese @ 5.025158
3 Iraqi_Jew @ 6.641414
4 Samaritian @ 7.473925
5 Druze @ 7.609864
6 Jordanian @ 7.871323
7 Syrian @ 7.982952
8 Cypriot @ 11.467931
9 Assyrian @ 13.417187
10 Turk_Kayseri @ 15.467889
11 Kurdish @ 17.585962
12 Egyptian @ 17.764843
13 Armenian @ 17.956760
14 Azerbaijani @ 18.464445
15 Turk_Trabzon @ 19.316784
16 Sephardic_Jew @ 19.494228
17 Libyan @ 19.950171
18 Bedouin_A @ 20.280727
19 Turk_Istanbul @ 21.157930
20 Yemenite_Jew @ 21.594601

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.005684


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Turk_Trabzon +25% Libyan @ 2.366852


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.682310
2 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.694905
3 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.742040
4 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Lebanese + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.780367
5 Cypriot + Palestinian + Palestinian + Iraqi_Jew @ 1.845056
6 Kurdish + Samaritian + Druze + Egyptian @ 1.856967
7 Kurdish + Cypriot + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.866369
8 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan @ 1.877006
9 Kurdish + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.893680
10 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Egyptian @ 1.912638
11 Kurdish + Palestinian + Druze + Libyan @ 1.942095
12 Cypriot + Palestinian + Iraqi_Jew + Iraqi_Jew @ 1.948077
13 Kurdish + Cypriot + Druze + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.952162
14 Kurdish + Cypriot + Lebanese + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.957820
15 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Libyan @ 1.969250
16 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Jordanian + Egyptian @ 1.969872
17 Kurdish + Samaritian + Druze + Libyan @ 1.993054
18 Kurdish + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan @ 2.018484
19 Turk_Istanbul + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 2.047553
20 Turk_Kayseri + Palestinian + Druze + Egyptian @ 2.052811

[Linet]

Post 3. Cypriots are Greek speaking Levantines in terms of genetics ad race are concerned. I cluster with these people as well:
puntDNAL K15 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.78
2 Mediterranean 32.67
3 SW_Asian 17.24
4 Horn_Of_Africa 7.18
5 NE_European 3.69
6 S_Indian 2.99


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Palestinian @ 3.198529
2 Lebanese @ 5.025158
3 Iraqi_Jew @ 6.641414
4 Samaritian @ 7.473925
5 Druze @ 7.609864
6 Jordanian @ 7.871323
7 Syrian @ 7.982952
8 Cypriot @ 11.467931
9 Assyrian @ 13.417187
10 Turk_Kayseri @ 15.467889
11 Kurdish @ 17.585962
12 Egyptian @ 17.764843
13 Armenian @ 17.956760
14 Azerbaijani @ 18.464445
15 Turk_Trabzon @ 19.316784
16 Sephardic_Jew @ 19.494228
17 Libyan @ 19.950171
18 Bedouin_A @ 20.280727
19 Turk_Istanbul @ 21.157930
20 Yemenite_Jew @ 21.594601

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.005684


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Turk_Trabzon +25% Libyan @ 2.366852


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.682310
2 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.694905
3 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.742040
4 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Lebanese + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.780367
5 Cypriot + Palestinian + Palestinian + Iraqi_Jew @ 1.845056
6 Kurdish + Samaritian + Druze + Egyptian @ 1.856967
7 Kurdish + Cypriot + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.866369
8 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan @ 1.877006
9 Kurdish + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.893680
10 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Egyptian @ 1.912638
11 Kurdish + Palestinian + Druze + Libyan @ 1.942095
12 Cypriot + Palestinian + Iraqi_Jew + Iraqi_Jew @ 1.948077
13 Kurdish + Cypriot + Druze + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.952162
14 Kurdish + Cypriot + Lebanese + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.957820
15 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Libyan @ 1.969250
16 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Jordanian + Egyptian @ 1.969872
17 Kurdish + Samaritian + Druze + Libyan @ 1.993054
18 Kurdish + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan @ 2.018484
19 Turk_Istanbul + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 2.047553
20 Turk_Kayseri + Palestinian + Druze + Egyptian @ 2.052811

Stay on topic please....can you spot them?

[DarknessWin]

I never said they were. I was just commenting on how, for a European population (which Colombians are not), Greeks seem extremely brunette.

People must stop this crap with blond hair everytime, blond is a mutation to the climate
Real Europeans were brunette and brunette > blond
Who told you that we want to be blond???

Romans,Iberians, Thracians and Ancient Greeks were brunette , they were the founders of Europe
They called blond hair as a sign of coward nature and barbarism , ( read Aristotle).

Of course you can say that Ancient Greeks-Romans etc were not Europeans.
Ok tell that and then say bye bye to "aryan" supremacy theories.
You know very well that Europeans are nothing without the Brunette civilizations of Meditteraneans

[DarknessWin]

Picture 4 are Cypriots
they look more armenoid influenced

Other pictures are homogenous people like whole Greece.
Cretans must be the lighter ones like picture 1 or 5

[DarknessWin]

Post 3. Cypriots are Greek speaking Levantines in terms of genetics ad race are concerned. I cluster with these people as well:
puntDNAL K15 Oracle

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.78
2 Mediterranean 32.67
3 SW_Asian 17.24
4 Horn_Of_Africa 7.18
5 NE_European 3.69
6 S_Indian 2.99


Finished reading population data. 157 populations found.
15 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Palestinian @ 3.198529
2 Lebanese @ 5.025158
3 Iraqi_Jew @ 6.641414
4 Samaritian @ 7.473925
5 Druze @ 7.609864
6 Jordanian @ 7.871323
7 Syrian @ 7.982952
8 Cypriot @ 11.467931
9 Assyrian @ 13.417187
10 Turk_Kayseri @ 15.467889
11 Kurdish @ 17.585962
12 Egyptian @ 17.764843
13 Armenian @ 17.956760
14 Azerbaijani @ 18.464445
15 Turk_Trabzon @ 19.316784
16 Sephardic_Jew @ 19.494228
17 Libyan @ 19.950171
18 Bedouin_A @ 20.280727
19 Turk_Istanbul @ 21.157930
20 Yemenite_Jew @ 21.594601

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +50% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.005684


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese +25% Turk_Trabzon +25% Libyan @ 2.366852


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.682310
2 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.694905
3 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.742040
4 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Lebanese + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.780367
5 Cypriot + Palestinian + Palestinian + Iraqi_Jew @ 1.845056
6 Kurdish + Samaritian + Druze + Egyptian @ 1.856967
7 Kurdish + Cypriot + Palestinian + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.866369
8 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan @ 1.877006
9 Kurdish + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.893680
10 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Egyptian @ 1.912638
11 Kurdish + Palestinian + Druze + Libyan @ 1.942095
12 Cypriot + Palestinian + Iraqi_Jew + Iraqi_Jew @ 1.948077
13 Kurdish + Cypriot + Druze + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.952162
14 Kurdish + Cypriot + Lebanese + Yemenite_Jew @ 1.957820
15 Iranian + Cypriot + Samaritian + Libyan @ 1.969250
16 Azerbaijani + Cypriot + Jordanian + Egyptian @ 1.969872
17 Kurdish + Samaritian + Druze + Libyan @ 1.993054
18 Kurdish + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Libyan @ 2.018484
19 Turk_Istanbul + Cypriot + Iraqi_Jew + Yemenite_Jew @ 2.047553
20 Turk_Kayseri + Palestinian + Druze + Egyptian @ 2.052811


Not all Cypriots but a big part of them ,
i see Cypriots of DinaroMed and Pontid types like Greeks

[Linet]

People must stop this crap with blond hair everytime, blond is a mutation to the climate
Real Europeans were brunette and brunette > blond
Who told you that we want to be blond???

Romans,Iberians, Thracians and Ancient Greeks were brunette , they were the founders of Europe
They called blond hair as a sign of coward nature and barbarism , ( read Aristotle).

Of course you can say that Ancient Greeks-Romans etc were not Europeans.
Ok tell that and then say bye bye to "aryan" supremacy theories.
You know very well that Europeans are nothing without the Brunette civilizations of Meditteraneans

Βρε μη θυμώνεις, ο συγκεκριμένος δεν τα λέει για κακό....κι άμα ζει Αγγλία μέσα στο ξανθό είναι λογικό να μας βλέπει σκούρους....
Μου έστειλε και μύνημα ότι θαυμάζει τους Έλληνες που δεν προσπαθούμε να το παίξουμε ξανθοί όπως οι Ισπανοί και οι Ιταλοί...είναι καλός...

[Linet]

Not all Cypriots but a big part of them ,
i see Cypriots of DinaroMed and Pontid types like Greeks

Cyprus has a big part of "Cypriots" with Greek Cypriot citizenship that are pure Lebanese....if they take their dna as well and then measure the population....of course they will take the entire island close to the middle Easterners since we talk about pure Arabs....

Now work, guess, why nobody guesses? :shakefist:

[DarknessWin]

Βρε μη θυμώνεις, ο συγκεκριμένος δεν τα λέει για κακό....κι άμα ζει Αγγλία μέσα στο ξανθό είναι λογικό να μας βλέπει σκούρους....
Μου έστειλε και μύνημα ότι θαυμάζει τους Έλληνες που δεν προσπαθούμε να το παίξουμε ξανθοί όπως οι Ισπανοί και οι Ιταλοί...είναι καλός...

Βρε δεν γαμιεται ο μαλακας, ρομπα ξεκουμπωτη

[Linet]

Picture 4 are Cypriots
they look more armenoid influenced

Other pictures are homogenous people like whole Greece.
Cretans must be the lighter ones like picture 1 or 5

:(
Come on be the first, give a full guess :puppy_dp:

[gültekin]

1. kavala (sure)
2.nafplio
3.volos
4.epirus
5. cyprus
6 cretan
7.sparta

[Linet]

1. kavala (sure)
2.nafplio
3.volos
4.epirus
5. cyprus
6 cretan
7.sparta

Gulte my love :hug2: ...you are the first to reply http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502....after so long....you moved me, only you understood the depth of my pain http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-165.gif?1292792422

0/7 but its ok.....you are the best :love0031:

[Linet]

Taxonymy please :eyes....people...try to guess...... :sherlock:

[gültekin]

Gulte my love :hug2: ...you are the first to reply http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/embarrassed1-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862502....after so long....you moved me, only you understood the depth of my pain http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-165.gif?1292792422

0/7 but its ok.....you are the best :love0031:
waaa just 0 ? :leaving:

[Linet]

waaa just 0 ? :leaving:

0/7 is also an achievement if you think of it http://yoursmiles.org/psmile/king/p0601.gif ...its perfect in its negative way :D

[Hannibal Barca]

never mind

[gültekin]

0/7 is also an achievement if you think of it http://yoursmiles.org/psmile/king/p0601.gif ...its perfect in its negative way :D
your pozitiveness killed me , i took my shovel and dig better my own grave :P

[Sikeliot]

I can't tell mainlanders apart from one another so I'll just do it this way... whether or not they pass as a group of Sicilians. Those I am saying yes to, are probably islands or southern but not the north.

So my guess is #2 and #6 are mainlanders, #3 and #4 the Cretans and Cypriots in that order, and the others look pan-Greek.

1. Yes, but atypical.
2. No.. Slavic influence shows.
3. Yes.
4. Yes, passes best of all the groups.
5. Yes, but atypical.
6. Definitely NOT. Slavic shows.

[Linet]

I can't tell mainlanders apart from one another so I'll just do it this way... whether or not they pass as a group of Sicilians. Those I am saying yes to, are probably islands or southern but not the north.

So my guess is #2 and #6 are mainlanders, #3 and #4 the Cretans and Cypriots in that order, and the others look pan-Greek.

1. Yes, but atypical.
2. No.. Slavic influence shows.
3. Yes.
4. Yes, passes best of all the groups.
5. Yes, but atypical.
6. Definitely NOT. Slavic shows.

Ok i can accept it like that but at least try to separate it in 3 groups..... I put 2 Peloponnese areas which shouldnt have Slavic influence, An Epirus and a Macedonian area (not central but even next to the borders so if there is any Albano/Slavic influence in their respective areas in these places should show most) and then you have the 2 big Islans in the South....
So come on...give it one more try, at least break your taxonomy in Peloponese/Islands/North Greece

[Sikeliot]

Ok i can accept it like that but at least try to separate it in 3 groups..... I put 2 Peloponnese areas which shouldnt have Slavic influence, An Epirus and a Macedonian area (not central but even close to the borders both so if there is any Albano/Slavic influence in their respective areas in these places should show most) and then you have the 2 big Islans in the South....
So come on...give it one more try, at least break your taxonomy in Peloponese/Islands/North Greece

Ok. I will say Peloponnese do have SOME Slavic in them.

This is how I'll do it. passes as Sicilian typically means Cretan/Cypriot to me(3, 4). Those I said pass but not perfectly are Peloponnese. Those I said DO NOT pass are northern Greeks, and I see Slavic input. You can deduce it from my answers then:

1. Peloponnese
2. North
3. Crete
4. Cyprus
5. Peloponnese
6. North

[Linet]

Ok. I will say Peloponnese do have SOME Slavic in them.

This is how I'll do it. passes as Sicilian typically means Cretan/Cypriot to me(3, 4). Those I said pass but not perfectly are Peloponnese. Those I said DO NOT pass are northern Greeks, and I see Slavic input. You can deduce it from my answers then:

1. Peloponnese
2. North
3. Crete
4. Cyprus
5. Peloponnese
6. North

3/7 ...not bad :thumbs:
Now last question, who were the most beautiful, the most shinny? Which is my village? http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516 ...they look like me of course or i look like them, i accept both http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-146.gif?1292792417

[Sikeliot]

3/7 ...not bad :thumbs:
Now last question, who were the most beautiful, the most shinny? Which is my village? http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/onion-head/pretty-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862516 ...they look like me of course or i look like them, i accept both http://emoticoner.com/files/emoticons/crazy-monkey/crazy-monkey-emoticon-146.gif?1292792417


Was I right about which are the islanders?
That is the most important part because I am sure anyone would agree they look the most like southern Italians, #3 and #4. If they were the Epirotes and Macedonians, I'd be extremely embarrassed.

[Linet]

Was I right about which are the islanders?
That is the most important part because I am sure anyone would agree they look the most like southern Italians, #3 and #4. If they were the Epirotes and Macedonians, I'd be extremely embarrassed.

You got the Cypriots :sunny: ...but no 3 arent the Cretans....want to try them one more time?

[Sikeliot]

You got the Cypriots :sunny: ...but no 3 arent the Cretans....want to try them one more time?

#3 might then be Peloponnese. No way would Epirotes or Macedonians look like a group of Sicilians.

[Linet]

3 is Peloponese ..any second idea about where the Cretans hide? :naughty:

[catgeorge]

#3 might then be Peloponnese. No way would Epirotes or Macedonians look like a group of Sicilians.

I wouldn't say no way - but you did say Greek islander look closer to Sicilians than mainland Greeks. Now you can not even define who is from the north and who is from the south mainland.

Do you see this is a fruitless excercise..have you ever been to Athens. Thats perfect tapestry of all Greeks from all regions in one city. Where would you place Athenians?

[Sikeliot]

I wouldn't say no way - but you did say Greek islander look closer to Sicilians than mainland Greeks. Now you can not even define who is from the north and who is from the south mainland.

I was pretty good though in that the people I thought looked Sicilian were a Peloponnese set and Cypriot, not north mainlanders. Give me some credit for consistency.

[Linet]

I was pretty good though in that the people I thought looked Sicilian were a Peloponnese set and Cypriot, not north mainlanders. Give me some credit for consistency.

You havent found the Cretans yet tho :D

[catgeorge]

I was pretty good though in that the people I thought looked Sicilian were a Peloponnese set and Cypriot, not north mainlanders. Give me some credit for consistency.

But it's largely bogus - the only credit you get is persistency not quasi science

[Sikeliot]

#1 could be Crete.

[Sikeliot]

But it's largely bogus - the only credit you get is persistency not quasi science

Find a group of Epirotes or Macedonians who look Sicilian then.

[Linet]

ok

1. Crete
2. Epirus
3. Nafplio/Peloponnese
4. Cyprus
5. :love0031: Monembasia/Sparta/Lakonia/Peloponnese/the best :joy:
6. Macedonia
7. Thessaly

[catgeorge]

Find a group of Epirotes or Macedonians who look Sicilian then.

http://www.e-fresco.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Central-40.jpg

[Linet]

http://www.e-fresco.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Central-40.jpg

that was fast :lol:

[Sikeliot]

http://www.e-fresco.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Central-40.jpg

Guy in the middle back no!!

But otherwise yes, are they all native even??? Or are they mixed with Pontic?

[Newsboy]

http://www.e-fresco.gr/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Central-40.jpg

They can pass in many parts of Southern Europe, even outside Sicily. Essentially pan-Euro Med

[Hellenas]

Some are definitely of Anatolian and Pontian descent.

As if anybody can tell the difference between Anatolian Greeks and other Greeks...

Here some girls from Nea Ionia of Athens(their origin is Western Asia Minor, inner Asia Minor and Pontus).

Ιστορία

Η Νέα Ιωνία μπορεί να θεωρηθεί ότι ιδρύθηκε την Κυριακή 27 Ιουνίου 1923, όταν ο Νικόλαος Πλαστήρας εγκαινίασε στην τότε περιοχή «Ποδαράδες» τον συνοικισμό για τους πρόσφυγες από την Σπάρτη της Πισιδίας, οι οποίοι είχαν έρθει στην Ελλάδα μετά την Μικρασιατική Καταστροφή του 1922 και την ανταλλαγή πληθυσμών του 1923. Ο συνοικισμός ονομάστηκε αρχικά Νέα Πισιδία, αλλά η ονομασία δεν επικράτησε, καθώς προστέθηκαν σύντομα πρόσφυγες από την Ινέπολη, την Κασταμονή, τη Σαφράμπολη, τη Νεάπολη, την Καππαδοκία, την Αλάγια και την Αττάλεια της Παμφυλίας και ακόμη από τη Σμύρνη και τα περίχωρά της, τα Βουρλά, το Αϊβαλί, τα Θυάτειρα και άλλες πολιτείες της Ιωνίας όπου ανθούσαν σπουδαίες Ελληνορθόδοξες κοινότητες. Έτσι, πήρε την ονομασία «Νέα Ιωνία».

https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9D%CE%AD%CE%B1_%CE%99%CF%89%CE%BD%CE%AF%CE%B1_ %CE%91%CF%84%CF%84%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE%CF%82#.CE.99. CF.83.CF.84.CE.BF.CF.81.CE.AF.CE.B1

http://www.sport24.gr/Sports/Handball/article2765863.ece/BINARY/w620/nea_ionia.jpg

http://content-mcdn.sentragoal.gr/filesystem/images/20140429/low/pegasus_LARGE_t_1041_106261259.JPG

http://nstatic.tanea.gr/21241688_handball.limghandler.jpg?i=aT1maWxlcyUyZj ElMmZtZWRpYSUyZjIwMTUlMmYwMyUyZjI3JTJmMjEyNDE2ODhf aGFuZGJhbGwuanBnJnc9NjYwJmg9Mzc2JnN0PXRydWUmYmc9MT Y3NzcyMTUmY3I9dHJ1ZSZhdD00

http://www.sport24.gr/Sports/Handball/article3381577.ece/BINARY/w620/nea.jpg

http://www.zougla.gr/assets/images/2149037.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b-lvoJ8Q8cc/VSR4rpgys_I/AAAAAAAAKlc/-TcRBeyVeNk/s1600/%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%91%2B%CE%99%CE%A9%CE%9D%CE%99%CE%9 1%2B%CE%A0%CE%A1%CE%A9%CE%A4%CE%91%CE%98%CE%9B%CE% 97%CE%A4%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%91%2B%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%91%CE %9D%CE%99%CE%94%CE%A9%CE%9D%2B2015.jpg
Click to enlarge: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-b-lvoJ8Q8cc/VSR4rpgys_I/AAAAAAAAKlc/-TcRBeyVeNk/s1600/%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%91%2B%CE%99%CE%A9%CE%9D%CE%99%CE%9 1%2B%CE%A0%CE%A1%CE%A9%CE%A4%CE%91%CE%98%CE%9B%CE% 97%CE%A4%CE%A1%CE%99%CE%91%2B%CE%9D%CE%95%CE%91%CE %9D%CE%99%CE%94%CE%A9%CE%9D%2B2015.jpg

http://www.womensports.gr/images/pegasus_LARGE_t_1041_97498502.JPG
Click to enlarge: http://www.womensports.gr/images/pegasus_LARGE_t_1041_97498502.JPG

http://content-mcdn.sentragoal.gr/filesystem/images/20161014/low/pegasus_LARGE_t_1041_107127258.JPG
Click to enlarge: http://content-mcdn.sentragoal.gr/filesystem/images/20161014/low/pegasus_LARGE_t_1041_107127258.JPG

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yz9m9OpCE5k/V2LYkwMvTrI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/50oI5nO9mfMVZ0qlPaIEY4RTpmbCViHPgCLcB/s1600/nea%2Bionia.JPG
Click to enlarge: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yz9m9OpCE5k/V2LYkwMvTrI/AAAAAAAAAeQ/50oI5nO9mfMVZ0qlPaIEY4RTpmbCViHPgCLcB/s1600/nea%2Bionia.JPG

http://cdn.thebest.gr/media/images/original/gvyrjnwblh591619adc3147.jpg
Click to enlarge: http://cdn.thebest.gr/media/images/original/gvyrjnwblh591619adc3147.jpg

http://www.onsports.gr/media/com_news/story/2015/03/27/475021/main/ac91756eb9164be2a9d83826a97c0273.jpg
Click to enlarge: http://www.onsports.gr/media/com_news/story/2015/03/27/475021/main/ac91756eb9164be2a9d83826a97c0273.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2d3mZHEGOV8/WFUrnZCxIpI/AAAAAAAA6ZI/aIi-3I08114tbsLhLG-kSP8wVs0cFtk_QCLcB/s640/IMG_7235.JPG
Click to enlarge: https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2d3mZHEGOV8/WFUrnZCxIpI/AAAAAAAA6ZI/aIi-3I08114tbsLhLG-kSP8wVs0cFtk_QCLcB/s640/IMG_7235.JPG

http://content-mcdn.sentragoal.gr/filesystem/images/20150327/low/pegasus_LARGE_t_1041_106531591.JPG


Lol, very much Armenoid-Anatolian looking.

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/MFDfVuqRSBk/hqdefault.jpg

Iranid-Orientalid

http://i.imgur.com/NyWR2EU.jpg

And Turanid-Mongoloid.

http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n606/Hellenas1977/bb3246d6-e128-4c57-a7b0-2875e8f935fb_zpsmtd0f6wz.jpg

[Mn The Loki TA Son]

I subscribe and like this thread and guessing game. It's some fun.

[Linet]

Guy in the middle back no!!

But otherwise yes, are they all native even??? Or are they mixed with Pontic?

Pontics are Greeks even if you dont like them :noidea:

[Lavrentis]

Pontics are Greeks even if you dont like them :noidea:

Even though you replied to Sikeliot, I have to say that we did not say that Pontians are not Greek, we said that they have different origins from native Greeks.

[Hellenas]

Even though you replied to Sikeliot, I have to say that we did not say that Pontians are not Greek, we said that they have different origins from native Greeks.

Pontians have mostly Greek origin.

"The Pontic Greeks are ultimately descended from Greek colonists of the Caucasus region (who named the Black Sea the Pontic Sea)"

Alan John Day, Roger East, Richard Thomas (2002).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greeks#References

Only Pontians of Trabzon and Erzerum are different.


According to Aris Poulianos to the Proso-Asiatic(Caucaso-Armenoid and Anatolian-Iranid/Orientalid) belong the Greeks of Trabzon and Erzerum(Pontians of these areas) and at a small degree the Greeks of Marioupolis and of Western Asia Minor.

Page 140.

Mainly Proso-Asians(Caucaso-Armenoids) are Greeks of Trabzon(Pontians of this area) and Easterns (Anatolian-Iranid/Orientalid) the Turkophone Greeks of Erzerum and at a small proportion the Western groups of Asia Minor.

Pages 141-142.

https://issuu.com/stampalia/docs/katagogh_ellhnon/9?e=4941600/4584982


Pontians are the most out-european mixed group in Greece though.

[Sikeliot]

Pontics are Greeks even if you dont like them :noidea:

I don't dislike anyone. I am saying what genetics shows: they are Hellenized Caucasian people, not descended from people from Greece proper.

[DarknessWin]

1. cretan
2.volos
3.nauplio
4. cyprus
5. epirus
6 sparta
7.kavala

[DarknessWin]

Was I right about which are the islanders?
That is the most important part because I am sure anyone would agree they look the most like southern Italians, #3 and #4. If they were the Epirotes and Macedonians, I'd be extremely embarrassed.

I found the cypriots too #4 ,

Others are homogeneous both islanders and mainlanders

[Newsboy]

So #4 are Cypriots? If they're typical, they certainly don't look very Levantine or Mesopotamian. Can pass better in all of South Europe.

[Governor]

I still don't see the OP's pictures.:confused:

[Governor]

I still don't see the OP's pictures.:confused: