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Hannibal Barca
05-26-2017, 07:57 PM
It seems "North Africans" are very popular on this forum even though there was no(?) North African member. North Africans don't even care what you insecure little creatures think about them.

Genetically North Africans have their own cluster, they don't cluster with South Europeans or West Asians.

We are closer to South Europe overally and but they are still distant.

Anyway, here is my result

I'm full Tunisian. I usually get Italians and Iberians but they are still too far.

Admix Results (sorted):
Dodecad k12b
# Population Percent
1 Northwest_African 27.39
2 Atlantic_Med 25.24
3 Caucasus 16.74
4 Southwest_Asian 12.67
5 Gedrosia 5.12
6 East_African 5.00
7 Sub_Saharan 4.10
8 North_European 3.04


Finished reading population data. 223 populations found.
12 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Algerian @ 11.836782
2 Moroccan @ 20.622265
3 Moroccans @ 22.703526
4 Morocco_Jews @ 25.883490
5 Sephardic_Jews @ 31.030003
6 Canarias @ 32.366985
7 Sicilian @ 32.720150
8 Egyptans @ 32.842873
9 Ashkenazi @ 33.620613
10 S_Italian_Sicilian @ 33.823879
11 Ashkenazy_Jews @ 34.393990
12 C_Italian @ 34.847996
13 O_Italian @ 36.204399
14 TSI30 @ 36.995586
15 Jordanians @ 37.420872
16 Portuguese @ 37.445210
17 Tuscan @ 37.612942
18 Lebanese @ 38.282780
19 Palestinian @ 38.486145
20 Murcia @ 38.583767




Harappa World
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Mediterranean 29.49
2 SW-Asian 21.45
3 Caucasian 19.65
4 NE-Euro 8.84
5 E-African 8.17
6 W-African 6.91
7 Baloch 4.49


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 morocco-jew @ 15.900242
2 sephardic-jew @ 20.029346
3 ashkenazy-jew @ 21.036163
4 egypt @ 21.389254
5 libya @ 21.709816
6 ashkenazi @ 22.643635
7 algeria @ 23.480560
8 moroccan @ 23.924480
9 egyptian @ 24.988920
10 tuscan @ 25.116747
11 tuscan @ 25.362768
12 tuscan @ 25.540541
13 morocco-n @ 26.982895
14 mozabite @ 27.437527
15 saharawi @ 28.294289
16 puerto-rican @ 28.479237
17 jordanian @ 28.955606
18 italian @ 29.059628
19 lebanese @ 29.596909
20 palestinian @ 29.903275



MDLP K16
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 22.58
2 Neolithic 22.03
3 NorthAfrican 18.81
4 NearEast 9.90
5 Steppe 8.62
6 EastAfrican 6.16
7 Subsaharian 6.11
8 NorthEastEuropean 4.43


Finished reading population data. 516 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Moroccan @ 16.952112
2 Tunisian @ 17.248234
3 Libyan @ 17.489222
4 Jew @ 17.742798
5 Jew @ 19.523516
6 Jew @ 19.585598
7 Algerian @ 20.881975
8 Jew @ 21.341478
9 Jew @ 21.360268
10 Maltese @ 21.434059
11 Jew @ 21.592409
12 Jew @ 21.710703
13 Egyptian @ 21.950356
14 Jew @ 22.029100
15 Egyptian @ 22.215063
16 Jew @ 22.301693
17 Spanish @ 22.305235
18 Jew @ 22.426723
19 Jew @ 22.605783
20 Sicilian @ 23.249294

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Jew +50% Tunisian @ 4.344570


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Moroccan +25% Spanish +25% Jew @ 3.385389



Eurogenes k15
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 23.06
2 West_Med 21.50
3 Red_Sea 13.06
4 Atlantic 11.99
5 Northeast_African 9.19
6 Sub-Saharan 6.59
7 West_Asian 6.14
8 North_Sea 4.23
9 Baltic 2.67


Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Algerian @ 8.390770
2 Tunisian @ 8.522144
3 Mozabite_Berber @ 9.745295
4 Moroccan @ 10.123917
5 Algerian_Jewish @ 16.195545
6 West_Sicilian @ 16.905493
7 East_Sicilian @ 16.922909
8 Ashkenazi @ 17.261423
9 Italian_Jewish @ 17.269876
10 Sephardic_Jewish @ 17.713659
11 South_Italian @ 18.548815
12 Tunisian_Jewish @ 18.960600
13 Libyan_Jewish @ 19.129854
14 Central_Greek @ 19.432009
15 Italian_Abruzzo @ 19.921350
16 Tuscan @ 20.052338
17 Greek @ 21.196226
18 Greek_Thessaly @ 21.338495
19 Egyptian @ 22.839336
20 North_Italian @ 24.662577

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_Sicilian +50% Moroccan @ 4.175262

Hannibal Barca
05-26-2017, 08:00 PM
I usually get various South European populations in my top 20 matches but they are still too far genetically. If you want to troll South Europeans please don't use North Africans in your arguments, we are a distinct people and we don't care if some South Europeans have North African ancestry.

Kamal900
05-26-2017, 08:00 PM
Nothing surprising considering that Maghrebi or North African people belong in the North African genetic branch while Egyptians including Copts belong to the Levantine genetic branch.

Not a Cop
05-26-2017, 08:03 PM
Can you post your Eurogenes ANE K7?

Hannibal Barca
05-26-2017, 08:06 PM
Can you post your Eurogenes ANE K7?

Population
ANE 3.58
ASE -
WHG-UHG 25.27
East_Eurasian 1.72
West_African -
East_African 15.22
ENF 54.21

there is no oracle in this calculator for some reason?

Not a Cop
05-26-2017, 08:09 PM
Population
ANE 3.58
ASE -
WHG-UHG 25.27
East_Eurasian 1.72
West_African -
East_African 15.22
ENF 54.21

there is no oracle in this calculator for some reason?

This calculator was made with no oracle, as it has different purporse, anyway are you pure Tunisian? They don't usually score ANE.

Hannibal Barca
05-26-2017, 08:11 PM
This calculator was made with no oracle, as it has different purporse, anyway are you pure Tunisian? They don't usually score ANE.

By "pure", if you mean if all of my 4 grandparents are ethnic Tunisians, then yes. However there are differences between regions and especially coastal regions are different. I'm from Northeast coastal region of Tunisia. Tunisia and North African countries in general are not really homogeneus genetically

Not a Cop
05-26-2017, 08:19 PM
By "pure", if you mean if all of my 4 grandparents are ethnic Tunisians, then yes. However there are differences between regions and especially coastal regions are different. I'm from Northeast coastal region of Tunisia. Tunisia and North African countries in general are not really homogeneus genetically

I acknowledge the genetic difference between North African populations, however they have one thing in common- they don't score ANE at all usually, so i was a bit surprised by the fact that you do score it, though in pretty small amount, you may read more about it on forum.

Hannibal Barca
05-26-2017, 08:21 PM
I acknowledge the genetic difference between North African populations, however they have one thing in common- they don't score ANE at all usually, so i was a bit surprised by the fact that you do score it, though in pretty small amount, you may read more about it on forum.

I don't know much about ANE but I have North African matches on Gedmatch, i will check their results too. Thanks.

Hannibal Barca
05-26-2017, 08:29 PM
I acknowledge the genetic difference between North African populations, however they have one thing in common- they don't score ANE at all usually, so i was a bit surprised by the fact that you do score it, though in pretty small amount, you may read more about it on forum.

These are two related (brothers?) Tunisians who match with me on Gedmatch.

ANE 4.54
ASE -
WHG-UHG 26.20
East_Eurasian 3.04
West_African 1.31
East_African 11.04
ENF 53.88


ANE 2.95
ASE -
WHG-UHG 25.74
East_Eurasian 1.53
West_African 0.65
East_African 15.07
ENF 54.05

FilhoV
03-04-2019, 07:37 PM
Interesting