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Kelmendasi
06-08-2017, 08:19 PM
i think this East European under East European section is very weird. it covers almost the whole Balkans, although there is a Balkan section already...but no Balkanits score any of it..or very very low.
I get very high for a non-Slavic Balkanite, on the first upload I got 43% Balkan and 46% Greek but on the other upload I got 47% Balkan and 43% Greek. I also always get Iberian and Northern European for some reason

Ylla
06-08-2017, 08:26 PM
Whats this Ashkenazi some of us are getting ? Its obviously not real lol

Voskos
06-08-2017, 08:36 PM
Whats this Ashkenazi some of us are getting ? Its obviously not real lol

imo it's just generic south european or equivalent to eurogenes "east med".

Peterski
06-08-2017, 08:44 PM
A huge baloon of Slaviness :party-smiley-006: :)

Confirmed by my Eurogenes K36 results (also look at my high similarity to Slovenians - I have always been claiming that Slovenians are probably the most genetically Slavic of all South Slavs):

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4250/34293664673_d7e17d3465_b.jpg

Sikeliot
06-08-2017, 09:27 PM
interesting! thank u :) the "greek" is very high indeed :) double them most albanians get.

I have seen Albanians scoring 90%+.

Snchpnz
06-08-2017, 09:29 PM
my SSA got lower with MyHeritageDNA, obviously theres an agenda behind this company to make us less black smh

Well this site gave me the highest SSA score of all. It seems the calculator decided to split my European into North and South and that's probably why they had to allocate the ssa that usually gets absorbed into North Africa and Southern Europe seperately. Compared to what I get on DNA.land, FTDNA, and 23andme it pretty much doubled my SSA wile cutting in half my Southern European and North African scores and giving me a ridiculous amount of Irish/Scottish.

Voskos
06-08-2017, 09:30 PM
I have seen Albanians scoring 90%+.

greek is just balkan with higher west asian and somewhat lower slavic affinnity.

Sikeliot
06-08-2017, 09:38 PM
greek is just balkan with higher west asian and somewhat lower slavic affinnity.

That was my impression which is why it peaks in Albanians and Greeks. It could more accurately be called "South Balkan" or "Albanian-Greek" in my opinion.

Sikeliot
06-08-2017, 09:44 PM
I am happy to see Greek separated from Italian because now we can see whether southern Italians are more genetically akin to southern Balkanites or to north-central Italians (of course regardless of which they score more predominantly they'll get other components, too), and so far everyone has scored some of both.

Voskos
06-08-2017, 09:45 PM
That was my impression which is why it peaks in Albanians and Greeks. It could more accurately be called "South Balkan" or "Albanian-Greek" in my opinion.

i would expect calabrians and sicilians to score some Greek. Do they?

Carlito's Way
06-08-2017, 09:52 PM
Well this site gave me the highest SSA score of all. It seems the calculator decided to split my European into North and South and that's probably why they had to allocate the ssa that usually gets absorbed into North Africa and Southern Europe seperately. Compared to what I get on DNA.land, FTDNA, and 23andme it pretty much doubled my SSA wile cutting in half my Southern European and North African scores and giving me a ridiculous amount of Irish/Scottish.

what do you score on Gedmatch? in regards to your SSA

Snchpnz
06-08-2017, 11:15 PM
what do you score on Gedmatch? in regards to your SSA

Which calculator? Gedmatch gives me even higher ssa scores than myheritage depending on the calculator. Of all the comercial ancestry sites Myheritage has been the highest though.

Carlito's Way
06-09-2017, 01:30 AM
Which calculator? Gedmatch gives me even higher ssa scores than myheritage depending on the calculator. Of all the comercial ancestry sites Myheritage has been the highest though.

on myheritage, what were your african populations?

Borgias
06-09-2017, 01:33 AM
I'm from the center of Apulia

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Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 02:01 AM
I'm from the center of Apulia

65156

Were you the poster I was speaking to on Anthrogenica?

67% Greek is high. Could be either Illyrian, Albanian, or Greek proper in my opinion.

Dominicanese
06-09-2017, 02:22 AM
my SSA got lower with MyHeritageDNA, obviously theres an agenda behind this company to make us less black smh

idk i got the same amount of ssa

Carlito's Way
06-09-2017, 02:41 AM
idk i got the same amount of ssa

30% SSA on AncestryDNA
DNALand 26% SSA

MyHeritageDNA 24.7% = 25%

23andme would underestimate your SSA, this is why Gedmatch and AncestryDNA work better for your real SSA percentage

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 02:44 AM
i would expect calabrians and sicilians to score some Greek. Do they?

Yes, every Sicilian thus far has scored Greek. Highest 60%, lowest 14%.

Kamal900
06-09-2017, 04:08 AM
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/2017-06-02%2020_00_33-Ethnicity%20Estimate%20-%20Chihadih%20Web%20Site%20-%20MyHeritage.png

Asia
44.4%
West Asia
44.4%
Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi
28.1%
West Asian
16.3%
Africa
27.5%
North Africa
25.5%
Sephardic Jewish - North African
25.5%
East Africa
2.0%
Somali
1.2%
Maasai
0.8%
Middle East
23.0%
Middle East
23.0%
Middle Eastern
23.0%
Europe
5.1%
South Europe
5.1%
Italian
3.9%
Greek
1.2%

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 04:20 AM
Were you the poster I was speaking to on Anthrogenica?

67% Greek is high. Could be either Illyrian, Albanian, or Greek proper in my opinion.

No. Illyrian is part of South Slavic which is Balkan. Otherwise South Slavs would score Eastern Europe the amount they score in 'Balkan'.

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 04:24 AM
No. Illyrian is part of South Slavic which is Balkan. Otherwise South Slavs would score Eastern Europe the amount they score in 'Balkan'.

But Albanians are scoring mostly Greek.

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 04:53 AM
greek is just balkan with higher west asian and somewhat lower slavic affinnity.

Greek has higher Cypriotic affinity which makes it uniquely Greek. The basis of Greek dna is Cypriot dna and so is for other peoples in the Balkans.

Cypriot DNA evident in over a dozen populations. There are markers that make them uniquely Cypriot.

Using this ‘Cypriot DNA’ pattern, the researchers were able to determine, for instance, that Hungarian people, although their DNA contains a majority of Polish and Lithuanian markers, it also contains a substantial amount of Cypriot DNA – almost 20 per cent – in those scanned.
Similarly, Romanian DNA contains mostly Lithuanian DNA, but almost equal amounts of Greek DNA and Cypriot DNA.

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 04:57 AM
Greek has higher Cypriotic affinity which makes it uniquely Greek. The basis of Greek dna is Cypriot dna and so is for other peoples in the Balkans.

That Greek reference population does not seem Cypriot-like. The highest I have seen it in is Greece, Albania, and Apulia.

Dick
06-09-2017, 04:59 AM
But Albanians are scoring mostly Greek.

That's great news. I get zero Greek on this. I get zero mediterranean in general.

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 05:01 AM
Ok thus far the highest Greek for Sicily is a 60% for Messina:

http://i.imgur.com/P1HSF0O.png

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 05:35 AM
Ask Raine.

An Italian from Apulia scored 68% which could signal either ancient Illyrian, Greek, or Arbereshe.

Lol So Greek in Southern Italians could be "Ancient Illyrian" or Albanian according to your uneducated and ignorant mind, disregarding that way millenia of recorded history.

For your info Illyrians were no different than Ibero-Celts and were of the R1b linage, and had more Northern genetics much like the Celts.

When the Greeks were colonizing Southern Italy, Illyrian ironically did not exist.

Illyria was a geographical term not an ethnic group. It was a name that Greeks gave to many unrelated tribes that populated the Balkans. Illryrians didn't exist as an ethnonym until the 1350 BC which is when Greeks conquered Illyria and gave it its name. Albanian for the record has been scientifically shown to be completely unrelated to the Illyrian language.

Albania itself was Greek land populated by Epirot NOT Illyrian tribes until the 11th century. Illyrians (which could be any tribe) themselves were partially mixed with Greeks in the Southern Illyria since it was Illyrus the son of Greek Cadmus that founded Illyria with his Greek tribe of Enhellenes.

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 05:38 AM
That Greek reference population does not seem Cypriot-like. The highest I have seen it in is Greece, Albania, and Apulia.

But Cyprus is included in the 'Greek' for a reason. Every Greek mainland or islander has Neolithic Cypriot dna as its base.

They did name it after all Greek, not Albanian nor "Ancient Illyrian".

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 05:56 AM
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s310/Kamal900/2017-06-02%2020_00_33-Ethnicity%20Estimate%20-%20Chihadih%20Web%20Site%20-%20MyHeritage.png

Asia
44.4%
West Asia
44.4%
Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi
28.1%
West Asian
16.3%
Africa
27.5%
North Africa
25.5%
Sephardic Jewish - North African
25.5%
East Africa
2.0%
Somali
1.2%
Maasai
0.8%
Middle East
23.0%
Middle East
23.0%
Middle Eastern
23.0%
Europe
5.1%
South Europe
5.1%
Italian
3.9%
Greek
1.2%

You scored Somali and Masai? I envy you ;)

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/89/c7/36/89c73643276f0dacf6dff19108868dce.jpg

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 06:17 AM
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Lol he is Southern Italian, scores 68% Greek, states he is mostly norman, lombard, croatian even english and german...but 0% Greek :laugh:

Another deluded italic roots nordicist clown.

Borgias
06-09-2017, 08:17 AM
Were you the poster I was speaking to on Anthrogenica?

67% Greek is high. Could be either Illyrian, Albanian, or Greek proper in my opinion.

Yes I am.

Apulia was inhabited by the Iapigi, an Illyrian tribe, in the I millennium BC. Then it was countered in the 5th century BC.Messapian (Iapygian language) have been related to the Illyrian language.
The language has been preserved in about 300 inscriptions dating from the 6th to the 1st century BCE.
You can write here for some sentences in messapian:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messapian_language

Voskos
06-09-2017, 08:22 AM
That's great news. I get zero Greek on this. I get zero mediterranean in general.

lol, you fucking troll

Hadouken
06-09-2017, 08:27 AM
I dont understand the "Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi" thing

Borgias
06-09-2017, 09:05 AM
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Lol he is Southern Italian, scores 68% Greek, states he is mostly norman, lombard, croatian even english and german...but 0% Greek :laugh:

Another deluded italic roots nordicist clown.

In Myheritage the reference population for "italian" is for central-northern Italy. So many southerners have a high "Greek". At 23andme the southern have about 80% Italian and only 4-7% on average of Balkan. Southern italian also have generally northern Europe percentage 0-5%.
Myheritage now is Beta, so it can change in the future.
In FTDNA i have 98% European: 94 % southest Europe and 4% West and Central Europe%. I find it more accurate on my genealogy.

Here is the map of ftdna:
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I have my genealogy documented in every generation up to 1400, and for the most important families from which I disclose there are information up to 1000. I have noble ancestors.
The origin of my ancestors is also proven by my matches on FTDNA. Between 1500 and 1600, my ancestors came to Italy from Spain (about 12), Croatia (more than 6) and precisely from the Dubrovnik area, and some Arbėreshė. I have many matches on ftdna from Split, Dubrovnik and Erzegovina, and many Spaniards.
In 1500 one of my ancestor came from England, he had the surname Ellis, and among my matches I have many English and among them there is also one that has in his genealogy the surname Ellis.
Between 1200 and 1400 I have several ancestors of noble family of French, German, and even older Normans and Lombards origin. Among my matches on Ftdna I have several Swedes, Finns, English and Germans.
Then i have ancestor of North Italy.

Instead I only have 1 match with a Greek.
In the family on my father all have clear blue eyes and blond and red hair from many generations.

Of course I know well, my Nordic ancestors are too far to have their percentages on these tests. The autosomal test reflects the latest generations. It's good the 4% of West and central Europe on FTDNA.

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 09:09 AM
Yes I am.

Apulia was inhabited by the Iapigi, an Illyrian tribe, in the I millennium BC. Then it was countered in the 5th century BC.

Then I am sure you can show me 3000 years of Iapigi civilization, lots of Illyrian artifacts, and many cities founded by your obscure Iapagis. For some strange resson the place is littered with Greek artifacts, and Greek cities. You make it sound as if no Greek tribes ever colonized the region.

Illyrians didn't exist when the first Greeks colonized the region. Southern Italy was called Saturnia since the time of Cronus (1700BC) and Onetria after Onetrus the Pelasgian.

Of course since then the Greek city states that fell under the rule of non-Greeks, were destroyed and populations were relocated, the result of conquests and new colonizations. A lot of these Greeks were completely eliminated, forced to abandon their culture, were massacred or exterminated as it happened in Middle east with the Phillistines. That was the result of Greeks losing control over these Greek regions. Imagine the Phillistine Greeks went extinct by 700 BC and Palestinians have nearly zero Greek ancestry, but you think you are descended from the Iapegi tribe that was far more unimport than the Phillistines and all the Greek tribes that paraded from the region (not once but many) left no impact. After the Ipagis comes the Chaos in your nordicist mind.

The only Greek regions that were never colonised or fallen into non-Greek rule were Greece snd Asia Minor and it was in these regions the Greeks retained their language and culture.

So much like the Palestinians (Pelasgians) today are not Greeks so are Southern Italians too not Greeks although the Greek element was not completely eliminated as is shown in Southern Italian genetics. The fact that Southern Italians score Askenazi shows that even Jews had an impact on the region. Not to mention the Arab raids in middle ages and the constant intermixing with other Italians for the past 2000 years.

Jana
06-09-2017, 09:16 AM
Balkan is not South Slavic! I score over 50 percent Eastern European (second highest here after Litvin) so it isn't true at all South Slavs score none to little.

Balkan might be Vlach like admixture . (which I have zero)

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 09:25 AM
In Myheritage the reference population for "italian" is for central-northern Italy. So many southerners have a high "Greek". At 23andme the southern have about 80% Italian and only 4-7% on average of Balkan. Southern italian also have generally northern Europe percentage 0-5%.
Myheritage now is Beta, so it can change in the future.
In FTDNA i have 98% European: 94 % southest Europe and 4% West and Central Europe%. I find it more accurate on my genealogy.

Here is the map of ftdna:
65161


I have my genealogy documented in every generation up to 1400, and for the most important families from which I disclose there are information up to 1000. I have noble ancestors.
The origin of my ancestors is also proven by my matches on FTDNA. Between 1500 and 1600, my ancestors came to Italy from Spain (about 12), Croatia (more than 6) and precisely from the Dubrovnik area, and some Arbėreshė. I have many matches on ftdna from Split, Dubrovnik and Erzegovina, and many Spaniards.
In 1500 one of my ancestor came from England, he had the surname Ellis, and among my matches I have many English and among them there is also one that has in his genealogy the surname Ellis.
Between 1200 and 1400 I have several ancestors of noble family of French, German, and even older Normans and Lombards origin. Among my matches on Ftdna I have several Swedes, Finns, English and Germans.
Then i have ancestor of North Italy.

Instead I only have 1 match with a Greek.
In the family on my father all have clear blue eyes and blond and red hair from many generations.

Of course I know well, my Nordic ancestors are too far to have their percentages on these tests. The autosomal test reflects the latest generations. It's good the 4% of West and central Europe on FTDNA.

Your noble Swedish and English ancestors certainly aren't showing in your results. Instead I see quite a lot of Askenazi and even middle eastern. I bet your noble ancestors also come from the House of Saud.

Your results only show that you don't have any ancestor in the past 1000 years that are Greek which is understandable since it was forbidden for Greeks to mix with Catholics and Muslims after the split of the Churches.

It doesn't mean the basis of your ancestry is Norman or English or German, only because some of these folks assimilated in the greatest Apulian pool through the centuries. They were not the ones that colonized Apulia which was a Greek city state.

The fact that modern Southern Italians have many other non-Greek influences doesn't erase the fact that the people that colonized were Greeks nor can you replace their history with a non existant insignificant tribe,

The Greek colonisation of Italy is completely corroborated by the archaeology and genetics as is the foundation and development of Rome from the time of Aeneas.

Dionysus once questioned about where the Aborigines of Italy originally came from. And there was no question as to the existence of the aborigines either. According to Cato, Sempronius et al. they were Arcadians who came from Greece in about 1500 BC. Other writers say they came earlier.

The Aborigines was a Greek term from mountain or hill people. What was Rome made up out of? Seven Hill!

"I am of the opinion that the Oenotrians, besides making themselves masters
of many other regions in Italy, some of which they found unoccupied and
others but thinly inhabited, also seized a portion of the country of the
Umbrians, and that they were called Aborigines from their dwelling on the
mountains34 (for it is characteristic of the Arcadians to be fond of the
mountains), in the same manner as at Athens some are called Hyperakriori,35
and others Paralioi.36

Voskos
06-09-2017, 10:01 AM
Your noble Swedish and English ancestors certainly aren't showing in your results. Instead I see quite a lot of Askenazi and even middle eastern. I bet your noble ancestors also come from the House of Saud.
these tests are not to be taken too seriously.

Iloko
06-09-2017, 10:28 AM
I heard some people are getting slightly different/altered results after re-uploading their raw data again; not a big difference in percentages though a slight adjustment for some people.... I just re-uploaded mine, let see what happens. :O

Seya
06-09-2017, 10:34 AM
Balkan is not South Slavic! I score over 50 percent Eastern European (second highest here after Litvin) so it isn't true at all South Slavs score none to little.

Balkan might be Vlach like admixture . (which I have zero)

how much italian and greek do u score?

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-09-2017, 10:51 AM
Meh. Dont trust myheritage. Still havn't uploaded. Plus its getting boring. More interested in geneology than ancestey interpretation

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 11:19 AM
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Lol he is Southern Italian, scores 68% Greek, states he is mostly norman, lombard, croatian even english and german...but 0% Greek :laugh:

Another deluded italic roots nordicist clown.


They probably do have Greek ancestry but I'm just saying given how Albanians are scoring, they could have brought over DNA that will also show as Greek. Anyway that user isn't a troll, I've interacted with them on other sites and they're a quality poster. I do think they should include Greek as well in their ancestry since we all have it but they're a good poster.

Jana
06-09-2017, 11:33 AM
how much italian and greek do u score?
A lot :) 25% Greek and 3% Italian. I think it makes sense for me, because pre-Slavic Dalmatians probably were similar to modern Greeks and Italians (and Albanians).

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 11:36 AM
A lot :) 25% Greek and 3% Italian. I think it makes sense for me, because pre-Slavic Dalmatians probably were similar to modern Greeks and Italians (and Albanians).

I've even seen people in NE Europe scoring Greek for what it is worth. It could also be because Greek-like people must have been among the earliest European farmers during the Neolithic. So it is either Greek or Greek-like ancestry.

The Illyrian Warrior
06-09-2017, 12:58 PM
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/05/31/Myheritageresults.png

The Illyrian Warrior
06-09-2017, 01:24 PM
I get very high for a non-Slavic Balkanite, on the first upload I got 43% Balkan and 46% Greek but on the other upload I got 47% Balkan and 43% Greek. I also always get Iberian and Northern European for some reason

I noticed that you have higher presence of native Mesolithic southern european component hence why you score west med at 20% and score Iberian, I tend to score higher caucasus, eastern hunter gatherer for some reasons which normally leans me more toward the east while you to the west.

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 01:56 PM
https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2017/05/31/Myheritageresults.png



My point proven. Greek cluster should be called South Balkan or Albanian/Greek.

The Illyrian Warrior
06-09-2017, 02:04 PM
My point proven. Greek cluster should be called South Balkan or Albanian/Greek.

I think this was already settled pages ago, what confuses me however is Balkan cluster, with what nations is actually made up as reference?

Dominicanese
06-09-2017, 02:26 PM
30% SSA on AncestryDNA
DNALand 26% SSA

MyHeritageDNA 24.7% = 25%

23andme would underestimate your SSA, this is why Gedmatch and AncestryDNA work better for your real SSA percentage

no but in ancestryDNA i have 3% north african included, so im 27% ssa on ancestry

but yes i get what you mean and actually the crazy thing is on dna.land the one i posted is from23andme but i did another account so ii can put ancestrydna raw data and it only gave me 22% ssa

but yeah i def would go with ancestryDNA with SSA and SSA origins, a Nigerian man on youtube tested it out and he got 80% nigerian, 20% cameroon/congo, mind you he's igbo and igbo's are on the cameroon side too (east nigeria) so it really makes sense


and im really Fongbe

Dick
06-09-2017, 02:27 PM
Balkan is not South Slavic! I score over 50 percent Eastern European (second highest here after Litvin) so it isn't true at all South Slavs score none to little.

Balkan might be Vlach like admixture . (which I have zero)
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed I assume. You score greek and italian, you're vlach as fuck then.


A lot :) 25% Greek and 3% Italian. I think it makes sense for me, because pre-Slavic Dalmatians probably were similar to modern Greeks and Italians (and Albanians).

HAHAHAA VLAHOS :lol:

Jana
06-09-2017, 02:40 PM
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed I assume. You score greek and italian, you're vlach as fuck then.
HAHAHAA VLAHOS :lol:

You're wrong. My IQ is 135, twice measured, thanks for asking.
Greek and Italian is south Euro/med admixture, not Vlach-like. Vlachs always lived north of Greeks and they are native Balkanites-everything is hidden behind that name, from Illyrio-Thracians, Celts, Goths and Slavs.

So Vlach like admixture will be something more northern than med, with eastern affinities, like Balkan is there. And Seya has highest score from what I see, and she's south Romanian.

You seem to imply Vlach has degratory meaning. What a idiot reasoning, especially coming from Serb.

Dick
06-09-2017, 02:44 PM
You're wrong. My IQ is 135, twice measured, thanks for asking.
Greek and Italian is south Euro/med admixture, not Vlach-like. Vlachs always lived north of Greeks and they are native Balkanites-everything is hidden behind that name, from Illyrio-Thracians, Celts, Goths and Slavs.

So Vlach like admixture will be something more northern than med, with eastern affinities, like Balkan is there. And Seya has highest score from what I see, and she's south Romanian.

You seem to imply Vlach has degratory meaning. What a idiot reasoning, especially coming from Serb.

Yawn, who cares about your little history lesson...You're also apparently autistic and can't understand sarcsm.

I dedicate this song to you <3


https://youtu.be/UQLTTMOatFI

Voskos
06-09-2017, 02:46 PM
gamo ti servia sou koloslave

Jana
06-09-2017, 02:54 PM
:lol:
Dick Serbian humor :)))

It's really hard to say what is Balkan in this algorithm. I just say I think it's Vlach like/East Balkan, for better understanding somebody should post South Slavs/Romanians/Hungarians/Modovan results here.

It should be mix between East Euro and Greek/Italian, and It would maike sense that South Slavs score it, but so far I'm only South Slav here who posted results and I score 0!!

so I can't understand why people say it's South Slavic centred. Maybe Bulgarian, because they are similar to Romanians but surely not southwest Slavic. Either that or my score is atypical as hell.

DRUM
06-09-2017, 03:00 PM
My point proven. Greek cluster should be called South Balkan or Albanian/Greek.


https://i.imgur.com/PFIFFss.jpg

I are the greekest

DRUM
06-09-2017, 03:02 PM
:lol:
Dick Serbian humor :)))

It's really hard to say what is Balkan in this algorithm. I just say I think it's Vlach like/East Balkan, for better understanding somebody should post South Slavs/Romanians/Hungarians/Modovan results here.

It should be mix between East Euro and Greek/Italian, and It would maike sense that South Slavs score it, but so far I'm only South Slav here who posted results and I score 0!!

so I can't understand why people say it's South Slavic centred. Maybe Bulgarian, because they are similar to Romanians but surely not southwest Slavic. Either that or my score is atypical as hell.

it's south slavs + albanians, which makes it a useless unstable component

Jana
06-09-2017, 03:08 PM
it's south slavs + albanians, which makes it a useless unstable component
That's possible. But I'd like to see which South Slavs they used as reference, because it's huge difference between SLovenians and Bulgarians.
Albanians should have been included in south European cluster...

Seya
06-09-2017, 03:18 PM
That's possible. But I'd like to see which South Slavs they used as reference, because it's huge difference between SLovenians and Bulgarians.
Albanians should have been included in south European cluster...

i think it refers to east balkans most probably cose there is nothing left :P

Kazimiera
06-09-2017, 03:21 PM
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/myheritage3_zps6hhc0zjg.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/myheritage3_zps6hhc0zjg.png.html)

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/myheritage_zpsx32by6ua.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/myheritage_zpsx32by6ua.png.html)

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/myheritage2_zpswj01ca8u.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/myheritage2_zpswj01ca8u.png.html)

Karol Klačansky
06-09-2017, 03:23 PM
http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/myheritage3_zps6hhc0zjg.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/myheritage3_zps6hhc0zjg.png.html)

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/myheritage_zpsx32by6ua.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/myheritage_zpsx32by6ua.png.html)

http://i1162.photobucket.com/albums/q526/katzentatzen79/myheritage2_zpswj01ca8u.png (http://s1162.photobucket.com/user/katzentatzen79/media/myheritage2_zpswj01ca8u.png.html)
What is ur ancestry?

gültekin
06-09-2017, 03:31 PM
I dont understand the "Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi" thing
do not worry, you don't score it :)

Deniz
06-09-2017, 03:32 PM
I score %70,8 Balkan.But Serbian won the award.:lol:
https://i.hizliresim.com/Jl7Jj5.png

Karol Klačansky
06-09-2017, 03:33 PM
That's possible. But I'd like to see which South Slavs they used as reference, because it's huge difference between SLovenians and Bulgarians.
Albanians should have been included in south European cluster...
I think balkan and eastern european are essentially interchangeable in this test. I scored 33% balkan and here are my brothers results. He scores essentially none but our overall eastern euro is essentially the same https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/65b913cadcb57107aecb2a4d3464ec4f.jpg

Jana
06-09-2017, 03:44 PM
I think balkan and eastern european are essentially interchangeable in this test. I scored 33% balkan and here are my brothers results. He scores essentially none but our overall eastern euro is essentially the same https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/65b913cadcb57107aecb2a4d3464ec4f.jpg

It looks really like unstable component. It's possible two brothers inherit little bit different DNA, but not like this.
I guess it's hybrid component (which happens when they make cathegories based on geography rather than genetics) and that's why it's so random.

Not a Cop
06-09-2017, 03:45 PM
It looks really like unstable component. It's possible two brothers inherit little bit different DNA, but not like this.
I guess it's hybrid component (which happens when they make cathegories based on geography rather than genetics) and that's why it's so random.

My grandad scores 33%, while i get 0, only baltic\ee obviously very unstable component.

Voskos
06-09-2017, 03:51 PM
You're not the sharpest tool in the shed I assume. You score greek and italian, you're vlach as fuck then.



HAHAHAA VLAHOS :lol:

like i said youre the biggest troll on this forum. are you an actor by any chance?

wvwvw
06-09-2017, 04:01 PM
like i said youre the biggest troll on this forum. are you an actor by any chance?

C'mon Dick is cool and his trolling is fun

Voskos
06-09-2017, 04:05 PM
never said he wasnt cool. but hes a troll

Dick
06-09-2017, 04:58 PM
like i said youre the biggest troll on this forum. are you an actor by any chance?
Yes, mostly porn.

Voskos
06-09-2017, 05:08 PM
Yes, mostly porn.

have you won any oscar awards yet?

Dick
06-09-2017, 05:10 PM
have you won any oscar awards yet?

Does the Pope shit in the woods?

Kelmendasi
06-09-2017, 05:12 PM
Does the Pope shit in the woods?
Of course he does

Seya
06-09-2017, 05:16 PM
I think balkan and eastern european are essentially interchangeable in this test. I scored 33% balkan and here are my brothers results. He scores essentially none but our overall eastern euro is essentially the same https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/65b913cadcb57107aecb2a4d3464ec4f.jpg

are u 100% Slovak? :confused:

Karol Klačansky
06-09-2017, 05:42 PM
are u 100% Slovak? :confused:
No I'm 3/4 Slovak and 1/4 American.

Here are my father's results he is 100% Slovak

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170609/9e7d6221566a2718a2eef8f7af4dcb37.jpg

Hadouken
06-09-2017, 07:00 PM
do not worry, you don't score it :)

I would be okay with it if I scored it I am not worried :lol: . just didnt understand what it is supposed to be

War Chef
06-09-2017, 09:13 PM
So I guess the stories was right, I do have some German ancestry & it shows as English....

http://i.imgur.com/SeGXkcM.png

Lucas
06-09-2017, 09:17 PM
I've just uploaded to Gedmatch some "pure" kits from HGDP (Tuscan, Sardinian, French, Russian, and some other). We will see tomorrow what will be their ethnic breakdown...

War Chef
06-09-2017, 09:25 PM
This is a really good program ... I don't know what you whiney babies are crying about.....

That Chechen-Balkar fucker needs to post his results I'd like to see them.

Not a Cop
06-09-2017, 09:51 PM
So I guess the stories was right, I do have some German ancestry & it shows as English....


Dunno, it gives me 1,9% Scandinavian and nothing more out of NW europe, 23andme is way more correct for me.

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 09:51 PM
Some North Italians:

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%


Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.3%
- Italian: 54.2%
- Iberian: 3.1%
*East Europe: 18.8%
- Balkan: 18.8%
*North and West Europe: 23.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 21.8%
- North and West European: 2.1%

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

Seya
06-09-2017, 10:49 PM
Some North Italians:

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%


Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.3%
- Italian: 54.2%
- Iberian: 3.1%
*East Europe: 18.8%
- Balkan: 18.8%
*North and West Europe: 23.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 21.8%
- North and West European: 2.1%

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

a lot of NW euro in them. the last one - 30% wow

Kriptc06
06-09-2017, 11:32 PM
http://i.imgur.com/ZjnwUoh.png

OPA!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ep_35FTnYVA

Sikeliot
06-10-2017, 12:11 AM
a lot of NW euro in them. the last one - 30% wow

Northern Italy was Celtic speaking in ancient times, like France.

Mn The Loki TA Son
06-10-2017, 12:15 AM
Northern Italy was Celtic speaking in ancient times, like France.

Not surprise. In France you had the Guals(Celts), in Iberia the Celtiberians and Northern Italy you had Celt tribes too. And they in genetics cluster/splot close to each other.

Percivalle
06-10-2017, 02:12 AM
I've just uploaded to Gedmatch some "pure" kits from HGDP (Tuscan, Sardinian, French, Russian, and some other). We will see tomorrow what will be their ethnic breakdown...

Well, they aren't more pure, I speak for Italian samples. Tuscan HGDP is a sample of 8 South Tuscans from the same town, there is even a North-South gradient in Tuscany and HGDP probably doesn't cover the whole regional breakdown. The Sardinians HGDP comes from a very isolated area of ​​central Sardinia with very high values ​​of West-Med, which perhaps doesn't represent well all Sardinians.

Percivalle
06-10-2017, 05:14 AM
Some North Italians:

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.4%
- Italian: 56.3%
- Iberian: 1.1%
*North and West Europe: 27.3%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 27.3%
*East Europe: 15.3%
- Balkan: 15.3%


Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 59.3%
- Italian: 57.2%
- Iberian: 2.1%
*East Europe: 22.2%
- Balkan: 22.2%
*North and West Europe: 18.5%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 18.5%

Europe: 100.0%
*East Europe: 45.3%
- Balkan: 45.3%
*South Europe: 42.5%
- Italian: 41.1%
- Iberian: 1.4%
*North and West Europe: 12.2%
- North and West European: 10.4%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 1.8%

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 57.3%
- Italian: 54.2%
- Iberian: 3.1%
*East Europe: 18.8%
- Balkan: 18.8%
*North and West Europe: 23.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 21.8%
- North and West European: 2.1%

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 55.0%
- Italian: 49.9%
- Greek: 5.1%
*North and West Europe: 30.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 30.9%
*East Europe: 14.1%
- Balkan: 14.1%

I guess they are North-East Italians, at least 3 out of 5.

Two Tuscans

Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 87.1%
- Italian: 76.7%
- Iberian: 6.9%
- Greeks: 3.5%
*North and West Europe: 12.9%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 10.8%
- North and West European: 2.1%



Europe: 100.0%
*South Europe: 84.0%
- Italian: 73.2%
- Iberian: 10.8%
*North and West Europe: 14.0%
- Irish, Scottish, and Welsh: 12.3%
-North and West European: 1.7%
*Ashkenazi Jewish: 2%

Seya
06-10-2017, 08:44 AM
Northern Italy was Celtic speaking in ancient times, like France.

Yes, i know but i wasn't expecting to have so much NW still. It's interesting

Peterski
06-10-2017, 01:12 PM
Here is what former TA user Rugevit gets (he is banned, but he posted his results on ABF).

He is ethnically Belarusian:

65.8% East European + 34.2% Baltic

https://s9.postimg.org/jmc9r6je7/pic.png

His DNA.Land for comparison:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?206120-Post-your-DNA-Land-North-East-Euro-(North-Slavic-Finnish)&p=4306488&viewfull=1#post4306488


https://s10.postimg.org/6tc5fk08p/image.png

Peterski
06-10-2017, 01:21 PM
I've just uploaded to Gedmatch some "pure" kits from HGDP (Tuscan, Sardinian, French, Russian, and some other). We will see tomorrow what will be their ethnic breakdown...

To GEDmatch, or to MyHeritage?

I tried uploading one ancient kit - RISE569 - to MyHeritage, but no success so far.

Lucas
06-10-2017, 02:14 PM
To GEDmatch, or to MyHeritage?

I tried uploading one ancient kit - RISE569 - to MyHeritage, but no success so far.

I tried to Myheritage (few formats) but also kit was invalid. So it means they use those HGDP kits as reference maybe and they don't allow upload because of that.

Dema
06-10-2017, 02:15 PM
http://i.imgur.com/wWZCBsL.jpg

Nehellenia
06-10-2017, 02:43 PM
Europe
100.0%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
65.7%
North and West European
16.7%
English
10.3%
Finnish
6.2%
Scandinavian
1.1%

https://motherofdragonlance.files.wordpress.com/2016/02/terrible-battle.gif?w=520

Peterski
06-10-2017, 06:38 PM
I tried to Myheritage (few formats) but also kit was invalid. So it means they use those HGDP kits as reference maybe and they don't allow upload because of that.

RISE569 was also invalid. But why?

wvwvw
06-10-2017, 11:11 PM
You are virtually Greek. 400 years ago - your ancestors would still be speaking i Apulia too.. May I ask, do you feel an affinity with Greece - or not much?

The split occured 2000 years ago actually. Borgias feels an affinnity to Normans and Germans however.

Borgias
06-11-2017, 12:26 AM
You are virtually Greek. 400 years ago - your ancestors would still be speaking Greek in Apulia too.. May I ask, do you feel an affinity with Greece - or not much?

500 years ago most of my ancestors were from southern Italy and all spoke Italian. Only someone came from the center/Northern Italy (Abruzzo, Toscana and Ferrara) and several were Spanish (mainly from Aragon), Croats (Dubrovnik) and Arbėreshė. Before 1500 I have some ancestor of other nationalities.
I know the history of my family (documented genealogy) and I just feel Italian.

Borgias
06-11-2017, 01:19 AM
The majority of Southern Italians spoke Greek from around 1600BC to 1500AD. The Byzantines were repopulating the Western Peloponnese with Southern Italians for that very reason. The removal of Greek began not with the Saracens (the Italian south was almost completely still Greek speaking then) - but with the Normans around 1000AD. The region has undergone heavy Italinsation the last 500 years to remove the Greek language and it has been successful - except in remote communities like those in Salento. The last major push to remove the remnants of the Greek language completely in Italy was undertaken by Mussolini where Italian Greek speakers were referred to as donkeys...

What is fascinating about you is that you are mostly genetically Greek. But through various reasons - pride, revisionism - changing attitudes - wanting to be accepted over the centuries - you feel Norman or maybe a few other things. It is sad in many ways - but also completely understandable. What is nice for someone who is perhaps proud of being Greek - is that many Italians like you - come across as perhaps - a bit like Huskey breed - that feels more related to a Golden Retriever than to a wolf - a wolf that unfortunately for you - most your DNA actually comes from. The southern Italians protected their Greek heritage for over 2000 years - they fought Romans, arabs, northern europeans - everyone. The last 500 years and indeed the next 1000 will not be able to remove the Greek blood pumping in their hearts however. I find that fascinating and these DNA tests becoming ever more popular are of course the ultimate leveller and bring reality to many. Who could forget all those South Americans on here - lecturing actual europeans on who is allowed to be called european according to some photos and who isn't allowed.. while themselves claiming pure Spanish/German and Italian blood - only to find over 5% SSA and even more most the time when they delve into their DNA plus Amerindian! Yes of course they still try and find pride (''but I am still more european.. my eyes are blue..'' - so are Dani Alves eyes!) DNA testing will bring everyone closer and will help destroy racism.

I am not saying that someone with 5% SSA should dress like this..

https://i.imgur.com/QskUed9.gif

But someone from southern Italy - with 68% Greek DNA - chatting about Normans.. that is kinda ridiculous. But again - completely understandable and really nothing to be ashamed of doing. Coming to terms with your blood is not always straight forward - especially if you were raised in a certain environment.

Absolutely not. Not all of southern Italy was Byzantine. With the conquest of Italy by the Longobards in the 6th century AD, the longobard duchy of Benevento, which included the whole central part of southern Italy, was founded in the south of Italy. Only Salento (south of Apulia), Calabria and Sicily were not conquered by longobards.
All ecclesiastical, public and private archives preserve parchment since the tenth century, all of them in ancient Latin and Italian from the 1300s. Only in the Byzantine territories the parishes were written in Greek but also in Latin by the Catholic Church. Greek was the official language of the rulers.
I work as a historical researcher and I read so many antique parchments in ancient Latin and Italian.
In my town, parchment is preserved in Latin and ancient Italian.
You have to remember that the Normans have conquered all the south of Italy and Sicily in the 11th century and founded the Kingdom of Naples and Sicily in 1130 with King Roger II . It is therefore logically impossible for Norman sovereigns of French culture and language to redeem documents in Greek. After the Normans there were the Swabians, the French and the Spaniards.
In addition to the official documents in Italian, All the documents that are kept in the archives of southern Italy, written by notaries since 1400 (the oldest are preserved only in some cities) are written in Italian of that period and concern purchases, wills, and other legal acts.
The same for marriage records, death and baptism. They're all in Italian. In the papers relating to proceedings kept in the archives, the parties and witnesses spoke in ancient Italian.

Greek was spoken only in some southern Salento municipalities. Do not confuse with the rest of Apulia and Southern Italy.

What here a map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Mappa_italia_bizantina_e_longobarda.jpg

Borgias
06-11-2017, 01:27 AM
Absolutely not. Not all of southern Italy was Byzantine. With the conquest of Italy by the Longobards in the 6th century AD, the longobard duchy of Benevento, which included the whole central part of southern Italy, was founded in the south of Italy. Only Salento (south of Apulia), Calabria and Sicily were not conquered by longobards.
All ecclesiastical, public and private archives preserve parchment since the tenth century, all of them in ancient Latin and Italian from the 1300s. Only in the Byzantine territories the parishes were written in Greek but also in Latin by the Catholic Church. Greek was the official language of the rulers.
I work as a historical researcher and I read so many antique parchments in ancient Latin and Italian.
In my town, parchment is preserved in Latin and ancient Italian.
You have to remember that the Normans have conquered all the south of Italy and Sicily in the 11th century and founded the Kingdom of Naples and Sicily in 1130 with King Roger II . It is therefore logically impossible for Norman sovereigns of French culture and language to redeem documents in Greek. After the Normans there were the Swabians, the French and the Spaniards.
In addition to the official documents in Italian, All the documents that are kept in the archives of southern Italy, written by notaries since 1400 (the oldest are preserved only in some cities) are written in Italian of that period and concern purchases, wills, and other legal acts.
The same for marriage records, death and baptism. They're all in Italian. In the papers relating to proceedings kept in the archives, the parties and witnesses spoke in ancient Italian.

Greek was spoken only in some southern Salento municipalities. Do not confuse with the rest of Apulia and Southern Italy.

What here a map
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e4/Mappa_italia_bizantina_e_longobarda.jpg

Annie999
06-11-2017, 01:38 AM
No confusion. History is crystal clear on this. There is no debate. Ashkenazis originated in Lebanon. This is common knowledge.


In that case ashkenazis could be catalogued as middle eastern, but not the other way around. Ashkenazi is a different branch than parted from the original lebanese. The right category for lebanese in AncestryDNA (just like in the other tests) is Middle Eastern, AncestryDNA just got confused.

For the record 23andme, MyheritageDNA, DNAland, GEDmatch and Wegene all correctly read my lebanese blood as middle eastern, it was only that one site that gave a wrong result.

Peterski
06-11-2017, 03:22 PM
Confirmed by my Eurogenes K36 results

http://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4250/34293664673_d7e17d3465_b.jpg

For comparison here some Eastern Germans:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212315-Eastern-Germans-in-Eurogenes-K36&p=4451155&viewfull=1#post4451155

Slaviness is very strong with them as well.

Sikeliot
06-11-2017, 03:29 PM
But someone from southern Italy - with 68% Greek DNA - chatting about Normans.. that is kinda ridiculous. But again - completely understandable and really nothing to be ashamed of doing. Coming to terms with your blood is not always straight forward - especially if you were raised in a certain environment.

Of all the Sicilians and southern Italians I have seen, none of the results show any evidence of Norman worth mentioning. Norman DNA in Sicily is likely the same as in Lebanese Muslims from the Crusades -- 1-2% here and there. But every southern Italian thus far has scored Greek, with the lowest being 14% for one Sicilian cousin but this is still higher than one great-grandparent! 68% Greek means he has Greek in him, it is unlikely to JUST be Illyrian. Of course, they're also coming up with non-Greek DNA, mostly Italian and MENA but still the Greek is showing up strongly. I think we should recognize the Greek input but let's not also erase the non-Greek elements, such as North African, Levantine, Jewish, Siculi, etc.

Stop glorifying the Crusades. Seriously. The Norman conquest may have started out peaceful but it was eventually quite oppressive and violent.

As for the city name Agrigento, the name in Sicilian, Girgenti, is not derived from the name Akragas in Greek but from the Maltese name "Kirkent." So while the city started out Greek I must correct what someone else said -- the modern form of the name in Sicilian is from its Arabic form, not its Greek form. Agrigento is the Latinized version.

The modern form of many city names in Agrigento province come from their Arabic and/or Maltese forms. "Sciacca" was originally "al-Saqqa," Agrigento was "Kirkent" and Sambuca di Sicilia was once called Sambuca Zabut.

Sikeliot
06-11-2017, 03:46 PM
Exceptional. These people are more Greek than Italian.

What the results are looking like is that Greek descendants in southern Italy mixed with non-Greeks such as Berbers, Arabs, Phoenicians, and Jews, as well as with Italian incomers from the mainland, and this genetic stew makes up Sicily.

However, of the mainland southern results I've seen, they're even more Greek than the Sicilians. Just because a town was not founded by Greeks doesn't mean they didn't move there.

My cousin from Trapani scores 21% Greek but she is not from an area founded by Greeks... obviously they moved across Sicily and while their ancestry got diluted as they went, they still spread their genes far and wide beyond their original areas of contact.. why would Apulia be any different?

Voskos
06-11-2017, 06:06 PM
so many Greeks in here. haha

Vascontelo
06-11-2017, 06:23 PM
How long it takes? I uploaded mine yesterday

Voskos
06-11-2017, 06:24 PM
How long it takes? I uploaded mine yesterday

i heard two days max

Vascontelo
06-11-2017, 06:37 PM
i heard two days max

Perfect, thanks.

War Chef
06-11-2017, 06:38 PM
Not surprise. In France you had the Guals(Celts), in Iberia the Celtiberians and Northern Italy you had Celt tribes too. And they in genetics cluster/splot close to each other.

The Celtiberian thing is a huge myth. In fact there is barely any Celtic/Hallstatt R1b type in Iberia.
What makes Iberians a little "north" is the La-Brana hunter-gatherers who were living there before Mediterranean boat people + farmers came.

Also maybe some small traces of migration period barbarians (Alans, Suebi).

No Celts.

Voskos
06-12-2017, 09:44 AM
anyone who wants to see what my results look like can PM me.

Voskos
06-12-2017, 10:59 AM
Anyone uploaded the same genome more than once on this 'MyHeritage' and got different results each time?

it can happen. how big was the difference?

Voskos
06-12-2017, 11:34 AM
Vast.

The first try compared to 23andme - it doubled my English to 42% - it decided I have zero the Irish/Italian/French/German ancestry and quadrupled my Iberian. It actually gave me less reference populations than 23andme!

I deleted it and resubmitted.

23andme and myheritage don't use the same algorithms and reference samples to analyze your data so those divergences are normal.


I deleted it and resubmitted.
Did the resubmission give you different results from the first one?(can also happen)

alnortedelsur
06-12-2017, 04:44 PM
Resubmitted today.

Whatever the algorithm technique - 42% English has doubled the 23andme estimate (don't like 23andme anyway) and it is simply untrue. I predict the veracity of your results on Myheritage depends on what technician you have looking at your results on the day - especially for very mixed heritage submissions.

I score 3.3% British/Irish and 3.5% Broadly Northwestern European (totaling 6.8% Northwest European) on 23AndMe, but according to my heritage, I am 7.4% Irish/Scottish/Welsh, out of 8.7% North west European.

Borgias
06-13-2017, 12:17 AM
Of all the Sicilians and southern Italians I have seen, none of the results show any evidence of Norman worth mentioning. Norman DNA in Sicily is likely the same as in Lebanese Muslims from the Crusades -- 1-2% here and there.


I think it is also useful to look maps and percentages of the haplogroup Ydna, to understand the real presence of Nordic in Southern Europe . For Italy the highest percentages are in the areas occupied by the Longobards and their capitals, and the Norman presence in Sicily.

Nordic blood after 1000 years is diluted or lost but the haplogroups remain.
Several southern Italians have Germanic haplogroup but have little or not Nordic in autosomes (but on gedmatch more). Autosomal examinations are often contradictory from a company to another (with Ftdna I have West and Central Europe blood and in Myheritage nothing. With Ftdna and dnaland I have only 1% Mena /levantine blood and in Myheritage 5.7%).

I hope that the serious Eupedia's site is of example (there are others similar site) with maps explaining this.
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/genetic_maps_of_europe.shtml


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Map of Distribution of Germanic paternal lineages in Europe
"This map was computed by adding Germanic lineages associated with the diffusion Germanic peoples from the Iron Age onwards. These includes Y-DNA haplogroups I1 (except some subclades of Finnish origin), I2-M223, R1a-Z284, R1b-U106, and R1b-L238."






But every southern Italian thus far has scored Greek, with the lowest being 14% for one Sicilian cousin but this is still higher than one great-grandparent! 68% Greek means he has Greek in him, it is unlikely to JUST be Illyrian. Of course, they're also coming up with non-Greek DNA, mostly Italian and MENA but still the Greek is showing up strongly. I think we should recognize the Greek input but let's not also erase the non-Greek elements, such as North African, Levantine, Jewish, Siculi, etc.

I never said that I did not have Greek blood. I just said that in the area where I live, there were Illyrians from the 9th century BC. And then the area was hellenized since the V century BC. From the Middle Ages to today there were often migrations from the other side of the Adriatic to Italy (especially Albanians, Slavs and Greeks) and I believe that 68% of Greeks on Myeritage are not only Greek .Maybe 40-50% ancient greek and 18-28% illirian. I dont know. It's an idea.
Of course I am a mixture of ethnicities who have lived in Southern Italy as ancient Greeks, Illyrians and Romans, perhaps Jews, and from the Middle Ages I know very well my genealogy (being of a noble family). In my paper trail I have ancestors far (centuries ago) from northern Italy, Croatians, Albanians , Spanish, French, Normans and Lombards (I repeat that I have West and Central Europe blood on FTDNA, and the same on gedmatch, and lombards ad normans lived 1000 years ago).In the last few centuries I have only southern ancestors.

Voskos
06-13-2017, 04:42 AM
Greek cluster peaks in Albanian, modern Greek , South Italian and Aegean Turk. Seems like Italian enriched with West Asian stuff.

Ylla
06-13-2017, 04:59 AM
Italian with higher CHG^

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 11:24 AM
Greek cluster peaks in Albanian, modern Greek , South Italian and Aegean Turk. Seems like Italian enriched with West Asian stuff.

The issue is then that "Greek" cluster is still insufficient to capture all of the West Asian influences in Crete, Sicily, etc. Still, I've only seen two southern Italians yet who don't have it as their majority European component.

Sciacca, Agrigento province, southwest Sicily. Agrigento was always the island's most Arabized province (this result will be close to a Maltese) but if we got someone from Syracuse, they could very well be 90%+ European and the vast majority will be Greek.

http://i.imgur.com/pYAtBZb.png

Voskos
06-13-2017, 08:01 PM
Agrigento was settled by Byzantines according to Sicilian user Akragas.

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 08:07 PM
Agrigento was settled by Byzantines according to Sicilian user Akragas.

Yes but at the same time it's important to note the additional North African and Levantine that arrived with the Arab conquest or with Phoenicians/Carthaginians. Agrigento was more culturally akin at the time to Malta, not to Greece.

Byzantine input doesn't explain much of their result.

Kriptc06
06-13-2017, 08:28 PM
I re-uploaded and I got 8% West Asia this time (almost 2% more), discounted from the dubious "North and West Europe", everything else looks almost the same.
West asia would makes more sense, so ill go with the second result.

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 08:30 PM
But it is incredible that almost all Sicilians score mostly Greek in their Euro component. The genes diffused fast across the island apparently!

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 09:28 PM
Greek result from the north someone posted:

Europe
-South Europe 78.6%
--Greek 75.9%
--Italian 1.7%
--Iberian 1.0%
-East Europe 21.4%
--Balkan 21.4%

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 09:31 PM
I saw an Albanian on Eupedia scoring 98% Greek also.

Kelmendasi
06-13-2017, 09:32 PM
I saw an Albanian on Eupedia scoring 98% Greek also.
DRUM scored near that, he got 90.6%

Kelmendasi
06-13-2017, 09:35 PM
@Sikeliot: That Albanian is from Dibra in North-eastern Albania and is an autosomal as well as a possible actual relative of mine since he comes from a village near my mothers. Him and his son score really Neolithic results on other calculators and on most Pcas they form their own Gheg cluster which Mlukas says could be a proto-Albanian one

alnortedelsur
06-13-2017, 09:40 PM
I think they are cutting corners badly.

I have resubmitted to see if there is any difference. If there is - it will show your results are not based on a algorithm - but on the technician present who puts together your results.

How do you resubmit it?? Do you need to delete and re-open your account, or do you just reload your data to override the previous load??

I'm curious because it doesn't make much sense to me that I score much more Italian than Iberian, that I only score 74% European, that I score 3% Ashkenazim Jew, and that I score noticeably less SSA in there than in 23AndMe.

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 09:49 PM
I told you this would happen the minute a purely Greek marker is used on a DNA ethnicity site. You argued me for hours - days even - as to why this wouldn't be the case. You went around and around trying to defend 23andme's negation of a Greek marker and their silly Balkan/Italian categorisation for every poor Greek who wasted their money on that site. It was very stressful.

I thought it wouldn't be the case because that "Greek" cluster has hidden NE Euro in it. But if Sicilians are also scoring 25-40% combined MENA, then that all dilutes the NE European element even though Greek is still the largest European element.

So it makes Sicilians Greek/South Balkan + MENA in large part, not north-central Italian.

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 10:44 PM
DRUM scored near that, he got 90.6%

I think Greeks and Albanians are basically the purest Balkanites.

Kelmendasi
06-13-2017, 10:49 PM
I think Greeks and Albanians are basically the purest Balkanites.
Yh. Albanians are the most homogeneous ethnic group in Europe when it comes to IBD sharing

Sikeliot
06-13-2017, 10:50 PM
Yh. Albanians are the most homogeneous ethnic group in Europe when it comes to IBD sharing

I think the Greek component should be renamed as I said to "South Balkan" or something.

Karol Klačansky
06-13-2017, 11:02 PM
Yh. Albanians are the most homogeneous ethnic group in Europe when it comes to IBD sharing
You mean the most inbred lol

Kelmendasi
06-14-2017, 06:37 AM
You mean the most inbred lol
Nah lol

alnortedelsur
06-14-2017, 02:36 PM
So I did a second upload to myheritage with exactly the same data to see if it was individual technicians who decide where you are from or an algorithm. Sadly it seems that it is individual technicians.

The new results - just 2 days after the old ones are different. They have more than halved my Greek percentage from the first test! They also increased my English, Balkan and NA! :party-smiley-007:

It is quite fun to keep doing it now. Depending on the technician on the day your DNA ancestry varies wildly and my results are constantly miles away from the 23andme results!

I resubmitted my kit yesterday. Let's see what happens...

Voskos
06-14-2017, 04:19 PM
Romanian person

87.6% Balkan
3.4% EastEurope
6.1% English
2% East Asia
0.9% Middle east

Lucas
06-15-2017, 08:06 PM
My father
https://s2.postimg.org/xq1kho6hl/image.jpg

My mother
https://s23.postimg.org/wfyqng1yj/image.jpg

My
https://s30.postimg.org/x4otits8h/myheritage.jpg
Strange isn't it?:) My Balkan is bigger than their.

Lucas
06-15-2017, 08:07 PM
So results looks random.

Sikeliot
06-16-2017, 12:18 AM
Half Campanian (Caserta) and half Sicilian (Palermo).

No North African and no Greek. The result looks much more Campanian, IMO.

http://i.imgur.com/jAP1dMU.png

War Chef
06-16-2017, 02:40 AM
Half Campanian (Caserta) and half Sicilian (Palermo).

No North African and no Greek. The result looks much more Campanian, IMO.

http://i.imgur.com/jAP1dMU.png

I thought you were leaving TA for good? LOL

Sikeliot
06-16-2017, 02:49 AM
I thought you were leaving TA for good? LOL

I just decided to minimize the controversial posts :lol:

alnortedelsur
06-16-2017, 05:18 AM
Post mine again (in a better format :p):

http://i.imgur.com/mnZ2vB6.png
http://i.imgur.com/PmNvSNf.png

My new results after I resubmitted my raw data:

https://i.imgur.com/FbH8P0m.png
https://i.imgur.com/6S92V3x.png

No much change really, except that I am a bit more Italian and a bit less Ashkenazim.

wvwvw
06-16-2017, 08:40 AM
I thought you were leaving TA for good? LOL

That would destroy the noble goal of reaching 100,000 posts. Then he could leave.

Lek
06-17-2017, 12:28 PM
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Sikeliot
06-19-2017, 12:50 PM
I got a result from Trapani province in NW Sicily. I'll post later but I'll say she was 56% Greek. They really got around I guess!!

Only 5% was Italian. And she has elevated North African.

Lek
06-19-2017, 01:05 PM
I got 43% Balkan on my first upload and the rest Greek. And 2nd upload 41% Balkan. Rest Greek.

Lek
06-19-2017, 01:07 PM
DnaLand and ftdna give me 100% Balkan.

de Burgh II
06-19-2017, 03:07 PM
https://s12.postimg.org/4zffrmpm5/Untitled.jpg

Seya
06-19-2017, 03:15 PM
so each time u upload u get a different result basically. i also tried again and this time my 3% east euro disappeared completely, my bakan is a bit lower and i get even more italian this time. i'm close to 30% :confused: how is this even possible??

Lek
06-19-2017, 03:24 PM
so each time u upload u get a different result basically. i also tried again and this time my 3% east euro disappeared completely, my bakan is a bit lower and i get even more italian this time. i'm close to 30% :confused: how is this even possible??

Piece of shit autosomal test :D

Kelmendasi
06-19-2017, 03:26 PM
I got 43% Balkan on my first upload and the rest Greek. And 2nd upload 41% Balkan. Rest Greek.
To me the opposite happened. My Balkan started off as 43.1% but then it became 47.8% on the other upload lol

Lek
06-19-2017, 03:29 PM
To me the opposite happened. My Balkan started off as 43.1% but then it became 47.8% on the other upload lol

An Albanian got 70 % Balkan others get 70% Greek lol... I dont understand what this Greek cluster even is. Its a large country with islands and with a large plotting map... its most likely same as their Balkan.

Sikeliot
06-19-2017, 03:40 PM
An Albanian got 70 % Balkan others get 70% Greek lol... I dont understand what this Greek cluster even is. Its a large country with islands and with a large plotting map... its most likely same as their Balkan.


I just got a Sicilian scoring 56%+ of it, from NW Sicily. I think it's mainland Greek from a region with less Slavic.

Era
06-19-2017, 03:44 PM
http://i65.tinypic.com/16bc7cl.png

Sikeliot
06-19-2017, 03:45 PM
Greek cluster is definitely Albanian like.

Seya
06-19-2017, 03:46 PM
I just got a Sicilian scoring 56%+ of it, from NW Sicily. I think it's mainland Greek from a region with less Slavic.

their database is crap. it makes no sense...

Sikeliot
06-19-2017, 03:48 PM
their database is crap. it makes no sense...


I think it is good.

Seya
06-19-2017, 03:49 PM
I think it is good.

then explain me from where do i have 30% italian?

Lek
06-19-2017, 03:52 PM
I just got a Sicilian scoring 56%+ of it, from NW Sicily. I think it's mainland Greek from a region with less Slavic.

I dont think their Balkan is slavic at all. Some south slavs dont get much Balkan at all but get greek.. North slavs who get t is a huge error. Albanians who show more northern/slavic ancestry than me get less Balkan and more Greek and ironically they are also more Southern plotting on pca maps.

Dudes like Dema have way more Slavic ancestry and several others get more Northern components than me.yet are more Southern plotting.

Their Greek is mainland Greek so basically South Balkan as southernmost plotting Albanians and closest to mainlanders overall seem to get the most of it but doesnt explain why a Croatian like Feichy gets Greek but no Balkan. So it just seems same as their Balkan and If you add this Greek together with the Balkan ill get 100% Balkan like other tests.

Lek
06-19-2017, 04:05 PM
Greek cluster is definitely Albanian like.

Rather depends on the individual me, fustan, kelmendasi get high Balkan for example. But fustan and some others get also ashkenazi. And some get north west euro

Some Albanians also get ashkenazi here and italian. It also showed up on ftdna for some with iberian and british isles.

Ashkenazi Which seems to be from east european jews? And iberian... I wonder how it even got there. Maybe this pulls some Albanians more south than me.. its funny how people write it off as just some Southern component and not actual jewish ancestry. If this was east euro everyone would be like ''sllaavvvs....'' .... just lol.

Coolguy1
06-19-2017, 04:10 PM
Seems like a very inaccurate test, good thing its free!

Ion Basescul
06-19-2017, 07:08 PM
My results

http://i.imgur.com/HVSO0lZ.png

23andme for comparison

http://i.imgur.com/KPaPYmE.png

Sikeliot
06-19-2017, 09:34 PM
Castellammare del Golfo, Trapani, NW Sicily:

http://i.imgur.com/q1nN2n5.png

Seya
06-20-2017, 10:42 AM
4th test complete with the same data and now I have 1% South Asian added but lost completely my Scandinavian from the last two tests!

that's because south asia overlaps with scandinavia :lol:

Argentano
06-22-2017, 06:03 PM
How long did it take to see the ethnicity result? i uploaded mine yesterday and still cannot see ethnicity result. Also have just 1 cousin.

Sikeliot
06-22-2017, 06:05 PM
How long did it take to see the ethnicity result? i uploaded mine yesterday and still cannot see ethnicity result. Also have just 1 cousin.


2 days.

Btw I got another Apulian. 88% Euro and the Greek is 70%

Borgias
06-22-2017, 06:50 PM
2 days.

Btw I got another Apulian. 88% Euro and the Greek is 70%


what part of the Apulia ?
what are his other ethnic percentages ?

Argentano
06-24-2017, 02:08 AM
2 days.

Btw I got another Apulian. 88% Euro and the Greek is 70%

its weird i still dont have results.

Still its a shitty calculator right?

Sikeliot
06-24-2017, 02:13 AM
its weird i still dont have results.

Still its a shitty calculator right?

It has been taking longer than it used to.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-24-2017, 12:30 PM
The worst dna interpretation I have took. Worse than GPS origins.

wvwvw
06-24-2017, 01:00 PM
These Apulians are remarkable in how they have preserved their vast Greek DNA heritage. They are exceptionally homogeneous. Looks like the early Greek settlers were correct - they absolutely dominated the area during colonisation as described here:


"For we did not win the country we dwell in by expelling others from it, or by seizing it when uninhabited, nor are we a mixed race collected together from many nations, but so noble and genuine is our descent, that we have continued for all time in possession of the land from which we sprang, being children of our native soil, and able to address our city by the same titles that we give to our nearest relations, for we alone of all the Hellenes have the right to call our city at once nurse and fatherland and mother."

Isocrates in Panegyric 23-5:

The country they meant is Greece, but then again Southern Italy used to be part of Greece. Herodotus describes the Hellenic Nation and all of it people spreading all the way from Spain, Italy, Macedonia, Achaia, Crete, Ionia and up to Libya, Egypt, Cyprus and Palestine.

Sicily was a purely Greek city state with one of the largest Greek populations.

That doesn't mean the composition of the population in these lands stayed the same. For example most Phillistines had been wiped out by around 700 BC. Carthage although originally Greek and Roman colony became Phoenician.

But the population in Southern Italy remained the same until the first centuries after Christ. But it was thorougly mixed with Italic, Iberian tribes when they lost their language.

Dibran
06-27-2017, 03:57 PM
Me: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian

Father: 98% Greek, 2% Italian

Sikeliot
06-27-2017, 04:12 PM
These Apulians are remarkable in how they have preserved their vast Greek DNA heritage. They are exceptionally homogeneous. Looks like the early Greek settlers were correct - they absolutely dominated the area during colonisation as described here:


I think Calabria will be closer to Sicily and surely they will have Greek in there but they'll also have a large middle eastern component.

kingjohn
06-27-2017, 07:30 PM
then explain me from where do i have 30% italian?

romans in dacia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Dacia
roman noble blood in you
:thumb001:

Sikeliot
06-27-2017, 10:53 PM
Some new southern Italians.

SW Sicily: Trapani and Agrigento This one is very Jewish like, both Mizrahi and Sephardi.

Italian: 49.8%
Greek: 18.0%
Iberian: 3.5%
Sephardic Jewish - North African: 10.2%
North African: 6.3%
Mizrahi Jewish - Iranian/Iraqi: 12.2%


Sciacca, Agrigento, SW Sicily: This one has a giant chunk of North African.

Greek: 52.5%
Italian: 21.8%
North Africa: 20.7%
West Asian: 5.0%


Half Sicilian (Messina, Catania) and half Abruzzese: This one is definitely more European shifted.

Greek: 56.1%
Italian: 15.0%
Iberian: 5.1%
Ashkenazi Jewish: 8.1%
East Europe: 1.4%
West Asia: 12.9%
Middle Eastern: 1.4%
(something is missing that they didn't post, it doesn't add to 100%)

pmv74
06-28-2017, 02:29 AM
Here's mine.....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/6b8cd0254751e1e2d69490c5f83f4f9d.png


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Sikeliot
06-28-2017, 02:57 AM
Here's mine.....

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170628/6b8cd0254751e1e2d69490c5f83f4f9d.png


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I forget your regions of origin. Abruzzo, Sicily, Calabria?

pmv74
06-28-2017, 03:11 AM
I forget your regions of origin. Abruzzo, Sicily, Calabria?

Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, and Campania


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Sikeliot
06-28-2017, 03:13 AM
Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, and Campania


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1/4 of each?

From what I have seen, Campanians do not score much Greek.

pmv74
06-28-2017, 03:15 AM
1/4 of each?

From what I have seen, Campanians do not score much Greek.

Yes, one quarter from each. My 4 grandparents came from those regions


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alnortedelsur
06-29-2017, 03:30 PM
I uploaded my raw data from Ancestry DNA on MyHeritage, and this is what I got:

http://i.imgur.com/DQ2vSqF.png

http://i.imgur.com/5DqHxI9.png

No much different from my results with my 23AndMe raw data file.

It looks like I am highly Italian, according to My Heritage :eek:

Sizzo
07-13-2017, 01:13 PM
4/4 Lombardian from Bčrghem

http://i65.tinypic.com/10xhu2c.png

NordicMan
07-13-2017, 01:24 PM
I uploaded my raw data from Ancestry DNA on MyHeritage, and this is what I got:

http://i.imgur.com/DQ2vSqF.png

http://i.imgur.com/5DqHxI9.png

No much different from my results with my 23AndMe raw data file.

It looks like I am highly Italian, according to My Heritage :eek:

Haha. I didn't know you were a Negro, but then again, you are Iberian/Latin American.

EL_BARBARO
07-13-2017, 01:54 PM
NordicMan is a cotton plantation Negro from Mississippi

Voskos
07-13-2017, 01:57 PM
NordicMan is a cotton plantation Negro from Mississippi

a nordic negro

EL_BARBARO
07-13-2017, 01:58 PM
a nordic negro

A nordic negro as big as a cathedral

kingjohn
07-13-2017, 02:15 PM
3% african but in the brain of racist person le t me explain how it works
he don't care you score : iberian italian north western european and the majoritiy is not african components
he focus on the 3 % which is low extremely low ....
why am i bother probably a troll lol

Wrong
07-13-2017, 02:25 PM
Sig

Lek
07-18-2017, 05:08 PM
Their Balkan:

https://s20.postimg.org/io458sinh/IMG_20170718_185654.png


Doesn't touch Northern Slavic countries or even includes them ^

Lol @ Slavic.

Their Greek:

https://s20.postimg.org/6nip82b8t/IMG_20170718_185623.png

Doesn't touch most of Northern Albania or even Kosovo ^

My results after uploading 3rd time:

https://s20.postimg.org/gyv20q2y5/IMG_20170718_185717.png


From my observation, the more Southern Albanians are the more Greek they score and less Balkan.

kingjohn
07-18-2017, 07:18 PM
i asked my heritage DNA specialist on phone :
east European cluster =goes back to the Slavic tribes
they mention Ukraine as reference
northwest European cluster = was the main cluster of gauls and celtic tribes in france and germany

Myanthropologies
07-18-2017, 07:37 PM
http://i.imgur.com/i7XCVrh.jpg

Fustan
07-18-2017, 07:39 PM
Sig

Good Albanian Results, but in the end, I'ts all autism!

Danza
07-19-2017, 09:53 AM
NordicMan is a cotton plantation Negro from Mississippi
a nordic negro

Now, now guys. Don't insult the negros too much. Nordic's family is still swinging in the trees.




Haha. I didn't know you were a Negro, but then again, you are Iberian/Latin American.

But you know Nordic it is interesting. As someone who is supposedly "true white", and who claims whites are very inventive, you're anything but. Ross & Fractal already covered most of your pathetic whimpering.

Newman
07-19-2017, 10:15 AM
More italian than Sikeliot

https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/455798myheritage.png (https://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=455798myheritage.png)

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS5eFcFvMvyxt36GlT8p9Sgo78vRT7M_ PTCJbXcRRHk7IdKzZdw

kingjohn
07-20-2017, 02:20 PM
some bulgarians also score 28% and above greek cluster so who knows
http://dnagenealogy-bg.org/mybb/showthread.php?tid=643
i used google translate :)
don't know from which places but probably the members in this forum ancesteral roots are in southern bulgaria close to greece border

germans for example if they socre southern european component it is usually italian + iberian or just italian
very rarely do they score greek

Era
07-20-2017, 02:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/i7XCVrh.jpg

Do other Afghans get Scandinavian or are you a rare case?

Voskos
07-20-2017, 03:55 PM
some bulgarians also score 28% and above greek cluster so who knows
http://dnagenealogy-bg.org/mybb/showthread.php?tid=643
i used google translate :)
don't know from which places but probably the members in this forum ancesteral roots are in southern bulgaria close to greece border

germans for example if they socre southern european component it is usually italian + iberian or just italian
very rarely do they score greek

its in line with this (Hellenthal et al study), where bulgarians show up as 15% Greek and another 13% Cypriot= 28% Hellenic-type ancestry

http://admixturemap.paintmychromosomes.com

Leto
07-20-2017, 08:40 PM
Europe
97,2%

East Europe
90,2%
East European
84,2%
Baltic
6,0%
North and West Europe
7,0%
Finnish
7,0%

Asia
2,8%
East Asia
2,8%
Eskimo/Inuit
2,8%

silentkiller
07-22-2017, 04:18 PM
Europe
Eskimo/Inuit
2,8%
Mayne, wtf.

https://youtu.be/mdRaS5mZkjk

silentkiller
07-22-2017, 04:19 PM
My results:

https://pp.userapi.com/c836226/v836226931/56370/2VoOupHXrfw.jpg

kingjohn
07-22-2017, 06:02 PM
the south asia is wierd other than that looks logic :)
it is also wierd you don't score finnish as you said
i am still looking for a russian out there who will score iberian that would be very cool
against all ods

Gangrel
07-22-2017, 06:09 PM
http://i.imgur.com/aGGpcXa.png

Would be nice if it went into more detail about the countries and shit but WE lol

silentkiller
07-22-2017, 06:11 PM
the south asia is wierd other than that looks logic :)
it is also wierd you don't score finnish as you said
i am still looking for a russian out there who will score iberian that would be very cool
against all ods
No creo que lo encontrarias, pero te deseo que tengas mucha suerte :D
Tal vez los podrias encontrar entre los hijos de los inmigrantes rusos y espanyoles (o los rumanos), ademas como los rusos podrian tener algo iberico, si la distancia es demasiado grande y no habia muchos contactos entre esos pueblos?

Not a Cop
07-22-2017, 08:51 PM
the south asia is wierd other than that looks logic :)
it is also wierd you don't score finnish as you said
i am still looking for a russian out there who will score iberian that would be very cool
against all ods

Here you are.

http://i.imgur.com/nnyuSdQ.png

Kriptc06
07-22-2017, 08:53 PM
No creo que lo encontrarias, pero te deseo que tengas mucha suerte :D
Tal vez los podrias encontrar entre los hijos de los inmigrantes rusos y espanyoles (o los rumanos), ademas como los rusos podrian tener algo iberico, si la distancia es demasiado grande y no habia muchos contactos entre esos pueblos?

wow, nice spanish there

silentkiller
07-22-2017, 08:57 PM
wow, nice spanish there
I lived in Latin America for about 4 years.

kingjohn
07-22-2017, 09:04 PM
Here you are.

http://i.imgur.com/nnyuSdQ.png


nice you are the winner i don't care it is only 1%
impressive man

Not a Cop
07-22-2017, 09:12 PM
nice you are the winner i don't care it is only 1%
impressive man



It's not me, it's my grandad.

Here are mine:
Europe
97,2%
East Europe
80,6%
Baltic
40,6%
East European
40,0%
North and West Europe
16,6%
Finnish
13,0%
Scandinavian
3,6%
Asia
1,8%
Central Asia
1,8%
Central Asian
1,8%
America
1,0%
Central America
1,0%
Central American
1,0%

100,0%



And 23% Balkan of my Grandad is totally gone, eh, impressive accuracy, Myheritage.

kingjohn
07-22-2017, 09:21 PM
it is better to take the test with them than just upload it
that's what they told me on the phone
it will be much more presice

your grandad amazing :thumb001:
where in Russia most his ancestors came ?
maybe different regions in Russia have the Iberian element more than other regions

Not a Cop
07-22-2017, 09:36 PM
it is better to take the test with them than just upload it
that's what they told me on the phone
it will be much more presice

your grandad amazing :thumb001:
where in Russia most his ancestors came ?
maybe different regions in Russia have the Iberian element more than other regions

Yep, that's obvious that testing directly with them should give better results.

Grandad is 1\2 Volga, 1\2 S-W.

Hamlet
07-25-2017, 01:03 AM
Seems garbage compared to 23andme, but then again I only gave them raw data instead of an actual testing kit. There's 0 chance I have Celtic ancestry, and this gave me 3-4%, so yeah, don't use this. Regular calculators seem to be much better, at least for my case.

Results:

Ashkenazi Jewish
90.6%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
3.4%
Iberian
2.8%
North Africa
3.2%

Franx
09-10-2017, 08:56 PM
I'm 100% German, and I have a bit of everything, even from the Balkan :)
67408

Karol Klačansky
09-10-2017, 09:04 PM
I'm 100% German, and I have a bit of everything, even from the Balkan :)
67408Where is your ancestry from in Germany?

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Franx
09-10-2017, 09:09 PM
My father's family is from Hesse which is in southwestern Germany (mainly celtic, a bit germanic). My mother's side is from North Moravia, which is ethnic German from Czech republic (with some Slavic influence). Interestingly my aunt (father's sister) has some Italian and few Iberian due to Myheritage.

myouss
09-11-2017, 04:15 AM
https://i.gyazo.com/5b88e3818f86c9909b8171b799efc4db.png

Never found this informative at all, 36.1% West Asia, 8.7% ME, so hard to comment on it's accuracy personally since it really doesn't say much.

Dominicanese
09-11-2017, 02:52 PM
Never found this informative at all, 36.1% West Asia, 8.7% ME, so hard to comment on it's accuracy personally since it really doesn't say much.

how accurate would u say it is?

myouss
09-12-2017, 05:03 PM
how accurate would u say it is?

I'd say the given percentages and groups are kinda accurate, but that big 36.1% West Asian chunk, really doesn't tell me anything. Dad's family is from Syria, previously from Azekh in Turkey, claim to be Arameans/Syriac (terms really change a lot depending on who you talk to), but all in all very little/no Arab mixture in the community, and the test puts me at 3% Ashkenaz, 4% Italian, 9% Middle Eastern, and 36% West Asian, which doesn't shed much light on any heritage (What is Middle Eastern, West Asian according to MyHeritage).

Armatus
09-12-2017, 08:45 PM
Me (West German):

North and West Europe: 86.2%
North and West European: 64.8%
Scandinavian: 21.4%

South Europe: 10.7%
Italian: 10.7%

Middle East: 3.1%
Middle Eastern: 3.1%


Two distant cousins from Austria (unmixed):

Austrian (Tyrol):

North and West Europe: 80.7%
North and West European: 76.3%
Irish, Scottish and Welsh: 4.4%

South Europe: 19.3%
Italian: 19.3%


Austrian (Lower Austria):

North and West Europe: 61.2%
North and West European: 53.6%
Scandinavian: 6.3%
Finnish: 1.3%

South Europe: 8.4%
Italian: 8.4%

East Europe: 30.4%
Balkan: 22.4%
East European: 6.2%
Baltic: 1.8%

Dema
09-16-2017, 01:54 PM
New one:


https://i.imgur.com/26Ek6Jd.jpg

Gangrel
09-16-2017, 02:28 PM
https://i.gyazo.com/5b88e3818f86c9909b8171b799efc4db.png

Never found this informative at all, 36.1% West Asia, 8.7% ME, so hard to comment on it's accuracy personally since it really doesn't say much.

Yes, I also regret using MyHeritage, very vague and shit I already know. Will probably do FTDNA next

Swahili_sultan
09-23-2017, 01:39 PM
Better than 23andme IMO...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170923/8372ae9b95444839dd086d481484c535.jpg

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Ulash
10-29-2017, 08:42 PM
Here are my results as an 1/2 Turkish, 1/4 Kyrgyz and 1/4 Kazakh.

https://i.hizliresim.com/Dy7716.png

Cornaro
11-02-2017, 06:10 PM
https://s15.postimg.org/cg07jrf1n/Inkedimage_32_LI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PFIFFss.jpg

I'm pretty sure these two results are fake. Maybe with photoshop or something. I saw the results of an albanian in a other forum he did the test at my heritage.

his results were:

47,8 % Balkan
15 % East european
14,6 % Greek
9,1 % north africans
4,4 %Ashkenazi Jew
4,2 % Italian
3,9 % Irish, Scottish & Welsh
1 % Oriental

Kelmendasi
11-02-2017, 06:18 PM
I'm pretty sure these two results are fake. Maybe with photoshop or something. I saw the results of an albanian in a other forum he did the test at my heritage.

his results were:

47,8 % Balkan
15 % East european
14,6 % Greek
9,1 % north africans
4,4 %Ashkenazi Jew
4,2 % Italian
3,9 % Irish, Scottish & Welsh
1 % Oriental
lol no they aren't photo-shopped, I can give you my raw data and you can check for yourself. I guess you say this because you are a Serb or something and you don't like Albanians getting 100% Euro, or is it because I am more Euro than you on this?

Dibran
11-06-2017, 01:36 AM
lol no they aren't photo-shopped, I can give you my raw data and you can check for yourself. I guess you say this because you are a Serb or something and you don't like Albanians getting 100% Euro, or is it because I am more Euro than you on this?

He's just butt hurt lol. I get 100 Euro as does my pops. Photo shop my asss.

Dibran
11-06-2017, 01:44 AM
I'm pretty sure these two results are fake. Maybe with photoshop or something. I saw the results of an albanian in a other forum he did the test at my heritage.

his results were:

47,8 % Balkan
15 % East european
14,6 % Greek
9,1 % north africans
4,4 %Ashkenazi Jew
4,2 % Italian
3,9 % Irish, Scottish & Welsh
1 % Oriental


Suck it.

Me:

69524

Mother:

69525

Father:

69526

greasycaveman
11-06-2017, 01:49 AM
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/375086142787158016/376929581455900683/Screen_Shot_2017-11-05_at_10.03.11_PM.png?width=313&height=300

Gangrel
11-06-2017, 01:51 AM
Fam blur out your name lmao

greasycaveman
11-06-2017, 01:58 AM
Fam blur out your name lmao
don't tell anyone my name lol

Hudayar
11-06-2017, 01:59 AM
some dumbasses on youtube actually take myheritage results seriously and they think they're 40% Greek 40% Ashkenazi Jew etc god i hate genetic companies and their retarded calculators so much.

FilhoV
11-15-2017, 04:31 PM
https://www.myheritage.com/dna/ethnicity/intro/8915EOJMF914KM25A9GLKTI56L542I2LE9BM4RIG6L976JQ4B5 2LILBC8OQ3ABQDF9I5ASPJA55JCM9FCGS66PAAAPP4OI2JACPK 8M8

Mine

Leto
11-15-2017, 04:45 PM
some dumbasses on youtube actually take myheritage results seriously and they think they're 40% Greek 40% Ashkenazi Jew etc god i hate genetic companies and their retarded calculators so much.
Precisely. Funny how people react seeing those percentages. Like there's no pure ethnicity, everyone is part this or that. A Palestinian girl has some Italy/Greece on Ancestry DNA and some folks in the comments are like 'well, there were some Greeks and Romans in the Middle East'. :picard1:

Leto
11-15-2017, 07:24 PM
Well there were Greeks and Romans in the middle east. So many they founded cities there and put all the jews and natives in separate city quarters. the Greek and Roman quarters of the cities were usually the ones with the most important buildings.
I know, but there's no way those percentages on ADNA are directly linked to the Romans and Greeks.

Cornaro
11-22-2017, 10:21 PM
This are my Results they came today. I did the test by MyHeritage:

65,1% Greek
29,7% Balkan
5,2% Iberian

greasycaveman
11-22-2017, 10:37 PM
69983

Cornaro
11-23-2017, 07:14 AM
This are my Results they came today. I did the test by MyHeritage:

65,1% Greek
29,7% Balkan
5,2% Iberian

Hey i have a question because i am new to all this genetic stuff. This are my results from Myheritage i did the test actually by them. I am Greek from north-greece (epirus). I don't know how the Iberian comes from? Is it maybe from the Sephardic Jews that came to northern Greece in the 15/16 century or are they listed separately?

Cornaro
11-23-2017, 07:50 AM
Is someone familiar with my heritage? I would like to know if the 5.2 Iberian by me comes from the sephranic Jews or not?

Hamlet
11-23-2017, 07:57 AM
Is someone familiar with my heritage? I would like to know if the 5.2 Iberian by me comes from the sephranic Jews or not?

MyHeritage is dogshit, but the 5.2% Iberian definitely does not refer to Sephardic Jews.

Hamlet
11-23-2017, 07:58 AM
Get 23andme over ancestry btw

wvwvw
11-23-2017, 08:08 AM
Is someone familiar with my heritage? I would like to know if the 5.2 Iberian by me comes from the sephranic Jews or not?

I have similar amount Sardinian (I am Peloponnesian)..it is probably ancient or it may not..why do you care so much.

Cornaro
11-23-2017, 08:22 AM
I have similar amount Sardinian (I am Peloponnesian)..it is probably ancient or it may not..why do you care so much.

I find it interesting. Iberian was small but it was something that i don't expect:D I see you did also the test at Myheritage did you maybe know how i take my Raw data from my heritage and put it on FamalyTree??

wvwvw
11-23-2017, 08:33 AM
I find it interesting. Iberian was small but it was something that i don't expect:D I see you did also the test at Myheritage did you maybe know how i take my Raw data from my heritage and put it on FamalyTree??

I don't..doesn't Family tree has instructions at its site?

http://i64.tinypic.com/fnes00.jpg

Cornaro
11-23-2017, 11:45 AM
I don't..doesn't Family tree has instructions at its site?

http://i64.tinypic.com/fnes00.jpg

Maybe it seems funny to you but id don't know how to download my raw data from my heritage?:icon_lol:

Cornaro
11-23-2017, 11:46 AM
edit because 2 post of the same

Slavic Italian
12-10-2017, 11:17 PM
Europe
94.6%
•North and West Europe
37.6%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
37.6%
•South Europe
32.1%
Italian
32.1%
•East Europe
24.9%
Baltic
15.5%
East European
9.4%
•Middle East
5.4%

FranKCasTLe
12-12-2017, 07:53 AM
:confused:
https://s33.postimg.org/fjr071ain/2017-12-12_10-43-17_Ethnicity_Estimate_-_Y_Web_Site_-_My_Heritage.png

Hadouken
12-12-2017, 09:08 PM
Are you proud of your Greek ancestry?

I wish I scored it too

kingjohn
12-12-2017, 09:19 PM
i score 31% greek in my heritage :dance:
the non -jewish in me is greco-roman blood :)

Blanka
12-26-2017, 11:08 PM
My Heritage reminds me of FTDNA's old My Origins, but for one thing.
https://s26.postimg.org/l65cx3cd1/ancestry.png (https://postimg.org/image/l65cx3cd1/)
I get a whopping 29.5% Baltic, which isn't correct when you consider dad's results:
https://s26.postimg.org/ytklx0az9/my_heritage_pappa_994.png (https://postimg.org/image/ytklx0az9/)
He was born in Finland, so yes, I'd expect Finnish, in his case south Finland. Both dad and I get significantly more Eastern Europe on FTDNA and I'm wondering if it's what is messing up the results for me with the mix between southern Finnish and Eastern Europe turning into Baltic.

spik
12-26-2017, 11:21 PM
I wish I scored it too

Maybe if you directly test with them you might get it.

Hadouken
12-26-2017, 11:22 PM
Maybe if you directly test with them you might get it.

I was just joking bra

Thambi
12-27-2017, 08:40 AM
I got 100% south asian. Pure desi :D

https://i.imgur.com/bfOAZLfh.png

Tschaikisten
12-27-2017, 08:46 AM
https://i.imgur.com/IfjClh7.jpg

Helen
09-23-2018, 11:03 PM
84.7% Iberian
9.6% Greek
3.1% Balkan
1.4% Nigeria
1.2% Middle East
From Spain

Kostej
09-26-2018, 05:28 AM
HAHA

Myheritage is such a bullshit NO way in hell is there drop of a english blood in me :)
80278

Peterski
01-04-2019, 04:29 AM
Post your matches by country statistics:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?273197-Post-your-MyHeritage-DNA-matches-by-country!&p=5706481&viewfull=1#post5706481