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Loki
11-21-2010, 10:16 AM
Cigarettes 'to be sold in plain brown packs' (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/nov/20/cigarettes-plain-brown-packs)

Tobacco companies may be forced to use unglamorous packaging in bid to stop children being attracted to smoking

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The government is considering forcing tobacco companies to package their cigarettes in plain brown wrappers in a bid to de-glamorise smoking and stop young people taking up the habit.

The health secretary, Andrew Lansley, is investigating the viability of introducing what would be one of the most radical public health measures ever implemented in the UK.

Senior doctors welcomed the potential ban on colours and logos on packets and said it could prove as effective as the 2007 public smoking ban. However, ministers are likely to face a legal challenge if they go ahead.

"We have to try new approaches and take decisions to benefit the population. That's why I want to look at the idea of plain packaging," said Lansley. "The evidence is clear that packaging helps to recruit smokers, so it makes sense to consider having less attractive packaging. It's wrong that children are being attracted to smoke by glitzy designs on packets."

Lansley stressed that the need to prevent children from starting to smoke in the first place was his main motivation for taking seriously a policy which the tobacco industry fears would be hugely damaging. "We would prefer it if people did not smoke, and adults will still be able to buy cigarettes [even if plain packs come in], but children should be protected from the start," he said.

The health secretary indicated that some further restrictions on smoking are likely. They could be unveiled in his white paper on public health, which is due within days. "The levels of poor health and deaths from smoking are still far too high, and the cost to the NHS and the economy is vast. That money could be used to educate our children and treat cancer," said Lansley.

His readiness to countenance such draconian action against cigarette manufacturers drew praise and delight from leading medical organisations. "We are very pleased that the health secretary supports the plain packaging of cigarettes. There is clear evidence that young people find packaging appealing," said a spokesman for the British Medical Association. "And we know that the tobacco industry spends huge amounts on this clever marketing to enhance their brands and increase sales."

Professor John Britton, chairman of the tobacco advisory group at the Royal College of Physicians (RCP), which represents hospital doctors, said: "The RCP is glad that the government is considering the introduction of plain packaging for cigarettes."

"Putting tobacco in plain packs would be a historic step for public health and an amazing centrepiece for Andrew Lansley's promised public health strategy," said Martin Dockrell, spokesman for Action on Smoking and Health (Ash). "Marketing men have become increasingly pushy with pack design, making it a 21st-century billboard, identifying this brand as 'cool' and that brand as 'feminine'." According to Ash, two-thirds of smokers start before the age of 18 and in England one in seven 15-year-olds is a regular smoker.

Australia is set to become the first country in the world to introduce plain packs in 2012, although tobacco manufacturers have mounted legal action to try to stop the measure. The European Union is considering a ban.

Lansley's move is a surprise. The Conservatives opposed plain packets when Gordon Brown's Labour administration undertook a consultation on the idea. But this fresh examination may help to allay fears among medical chiefs at the direction of the coalition's public health policies after, for example, Lansley criticised Jamie Oliver's campaign to improve school lunches in England.

The BMA, RCP and Ash all called on the government to press ahead with implementing the planned ban on shops selling cigarettes openly, irrespective of whether it introduces plain packets. Under legislation passed under Labour, the point of sale ban is due to be phased in from next year, but the coalition has still not decided whether to honour their predecessors' commitment.

"We need to protect children from any kind of tobacco advertising, and as the legislation to ban point-of-sale display has already been passed, it should be implemented as soon as possible, not postponed or repealed," said Britton.The tobacco industry tonight said it rejected the whole idea of plain packets. It said there was no evidence to back the policy and claimed that it would lead to increased tobacco smuggling. "Whilst there are currently no specific government proposals for plain tobacco packaging, the Tobacco Manufacturers' Association is strongly opposed to the principle and would expect a genuine consultation and regulatory impact assessment if the government decides to pursue this further," said the TMA's chief executive, Christopher Ogden.

"The TMA does not believe any plans for plain packaging are based on sound public policy, nor any compelling evidence. Moves to prevent tobacco companies from exercising their intellectual property rights would place the government in breach of legal obligations relating to intellectual property, international trade and European law," Ogden added.

"Plain packs are also likely to lead to yet further increases in the smuggling of tobacco products, and plain packs would make it so much easier for a counterfeiter to copy than existing branded packs, making it even more difficult for a consumer to differentiate between genuine and counterfeit products."

Peasant
11-21-2010, 10:51 AM
It will be interesting if this makes any difference at all.

Loki
11-21-2010, 10:53 AM
It will be interesting if this makes any difference at all.

What I'm thinking, is that it will be more clearly visible who has bought illegal cigarette imports - so perhaps this measure is aimed at identifying tax evaders? ;)

Peasant
11-21-2010, 10:56 AM
I am not sure it will stamp out 'fag houses' though, although it will be obvious to the police when there is one operating in the area. If they see people with non-brown packaging often, they are going to think about where it is coming from. Dodgy corner shops however will have to sell the proper stuff!

Beorn
11-21-2010, 11:00 AM
The amazing thing about fashion and peer pressure is even wearing a bin liner could become trendy simply because everyone else is wearing bin liners.

When I did smoke, I was attracted to brands merely through the branding on the boxes, but ultimately I stayed with my B&H or Malboro's because of taste, so I can see the value of wanting to make smoking look boring and ugly, but putting ciggies into a plain brown box will only be overcome by some entrepreneurial person marketing personalised cigarette boxes in its stead.

And we all know how humans just love to buy crap.

Magister Eckhart
11-21-2010, 11:34 AM
They do realise it's the fag hanging out of your mouth as your lifting something heavy in a white t-shirt, or the cigarette between your fingers while sipping coffee at the Cafe, et al., not the bulge of a Marlboro pack in your back pocket, that's "cool", right?

Clearly not.

All this is going to do is save death-stick companies money.

Sol Invictus
11-22-2010, 08:12 PM
You should see the cigarette packs as they are sold at Canadian vendors.

http://www.nsra-adnf.ca/images/pageimages/8mouthlow.JPG

When I buy smokes I generally pick and choose based on the external appearance. I never buy the mouth.

http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/4-na-cigaretter-warning-blo-5-jpg-1.53957!image/2227745224._gen/derivatives/box_475/2227745224.

Murphy
11-22-2010, 08:16 PM
I better go out hoarding cigarette packs to sell on ebay in a couple of years.

The Lawspeaker
11-22-2010, 08:27 PM
I am getting a bit tired of a government that doesn't deal with real criminals (banksters and the like) but merely seeks to control EVERY TINY LITTLE BIT of human behaviour.


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Yes, government, I smoke. Don't like it? I don't give a flying fuck about it !

Loki
11-22-2010, 08:40 PM
Yes, government, I smoke. Don't like it? I don't give a flying fuck about it !

They like it, they get lots of tax money from it.

The Lawspeaker
11-22-2010, 08:46 PM
They like it, they get lots of tax money from it.
That's why I should actually only try to buy illegal cigarettes.

Alison
11-23-2010, 06:02 AM
I doubt this will stop people smoking, especially youngsters. They start smoking to look cool.

Sahson
11-23-2010, 06:20 AM
prices for a 20 pack have gone from $11 here to $22. taxes have been increased, you can only get cigarettes from the front desk, they have to be locked up(not visible) at the counter, they have photos of foot rot, etc. but are changing, or have changed to brown paper packaging already...

Alison
11-23-2010, 07:16 AM
That is a far more effective way of trying to get people to quit, or to not start smoking in the first place. I'd rather alcohol and cigarettes were taxed to the max than pay a lot of PAYE.

Wölfin
11-23-2010, 07:17 AM
Here the cigarettes packs are simply hidden behind pannels. Dunno if its made a difference but certainly you won't think about it if you're at the cash paying your can of pop and your pack of gum. You prob don't think "oh look, cigarettes, why not get some?"

Austin
11-23-2010, 08:16 AM
I better go out hoarding cigarette packs to sell on ebay in a couple of years.


Actually that is probably a good idea lol!

I was at a bar once and this young girl working for Camel came up to me and asked for my email address and I said why what for and she said you give me it and I enter it into this hand-held machine and in return I give you a free pack and a free canister of tobacco. So I gave her my email and she gave me the cigs/tobacco and I traded em to some guys for a few drinks.

About five months later I get in the mail a Camel brochure with coupons stating "keep doing your thing man" and to make sure to buy only camel products. I threw it all away but it amazed me how they really appeal to the rebellious youth. It's terrible.