Is any Finno-Ugric Indicated Here?

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I won't detail this person's known ancestry as that might give some bias.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +50% Ukrainian @ 2.796258


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Croatian +25% Erzya +25% West_Norwegian @ 2.159669


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
1 East_German + Erzya + Ukrainian + West_German @ 1.901167
2 Erzya + Hungarian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian @ 1.950838
3 East_German + Erzya + South_Polish + West_German @ 1.991540
4 East_German + Erzya + Polish + West_German @ 2.026668
5 Kargopol_Russian + Moldavian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian @ 2.087933
6 Erzya + Hungarian + Polish + West_German @ 2.114399
7 East_German + Erzya + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_German @ 2.129049
8 East_German + Erzya + South_Dutch + Ukrainian @ 2.144579
9 Croatian + Croatian + Erzya + West_Norwegian @ 2.159669
10 Erzya + Hungarian + Southwest_English + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.163267
11 East_German + East_German + Erzya + Hungarian @ 2.180848
12 Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Ukrainian + West_German @ 2.195942
13 Croatian + Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Norwegian @ 2.224370
14 Kargopol_Russian + Moldavian + Southeast_English + Ukrainian @ 2.224764
15 Hungarian + Kargopol_Russian + Polish + West_German @ 2.230694
16 East_German + Erzya + Russian_Smolensk + West_German @ 2.232043
17 North_Swedish + Polish + Serbian + Ukrainian @ 2.246083
18 Croatian + Erzya + Southwest_English + Ukrainian @ 2.251311
19 Erzya + Hungarian + Southeast_English + Ukrainian @ 2.255191
20 Croatian + Kargopol_Russian + Polish + West_German @ 2.255644

Done.

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Also:

Eurogenes ANE K7

Population
ANE 16.25
ASE 1.99
WHG-UHG 62.82
East_Eurasian 1.31
West_African 0.47
East_African 0.72
ENF 16.43

Euro K13
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.28
2 North_Atlantic 32.84
3 West_Med 11.92
4 East_Med 6.83
5 West_Asian 5.66
6 South_Asian 1.77
7 Red_Sea 1.43
8 Siberian 1.39


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Polish @ 5.615799
2 Hungarian @ 6.944128
3 Croatian @ 7.364062
4 East_German @ 7.437738
5 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.537293
6 Ukrainian @ 8.367209
7 Polish @ 9.347516
8 Austrian @ 9.387593
9 Moldavian @ 11.180273
10 Southwest_Finnish @ 12.414995
11 Southwest_Russian @ 12.811396
12 Russian_Smolensk @ 12.933526
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 13.416420
14 Estonian_Polish @ 13.507435
15 Belorussian @ 13.618048
16 North_Swedish @ 14.169118
17 Serbian @ 15.586457
18 Finnish @ 15.714602
19 Estonian @ 16.162874
20 Kargopol_Russian @ 16.297646

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% East_German +50% South_Polish @ 2.123548


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Estonian_Polish +25% Orcadian +25% Romanian @ 1.106264


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++
1 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 0.994914
2 French + Hungarian + Lithuanian + Southwest_Russian @ 1.006805
3 Lithuanian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.031910
4 East_German + Polish + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.041756
5 Estonian + Russian_Smolensk + Serbian + South_Dutch @ 1.048694
6 Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + South_Dutch + Southwest_Russian @ 1.097012
7 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Romanian @ 1.106264
8 Estonian + Lithuanian + Romanian + South_Dutch @ 1.110855
9 Estonian + French + Lithuanian + Serbian @ 1.130045
10 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Romanian + Southwest_English @ 1.159342
11 Estonian + Estonian_Polish + Serbian + West_German @ 1.160213
12 Lithuanian + North_Italian + North_Swedish + Southwest_Russian @ 1.169903
13 Estonian_Polish + French + South_Polish + South_Polish @ 1.170097
14 Belorussian + Croatian + South_Dutch + South_Polish @ 1.170770
15 East_German + Russian_Smolensk + Serbian + Southwest_Finnish @ 1.178339
16 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + South_Dutch @ 1.185554
17 Estonian_Polish + Hungarian + Russian_Smolensk + South_Dutch @ 1.188112
18 Estonian_Polish + Estonian_Polish + Orcadian + Serbian @ 1.195627
19 Croatian + Estonian_Polish + South_Dutch + South_Polish @ 1.197117
20 Estonian_Polish + Lithuanian + Romanian + Southeast_English @ 1.197196

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No bites?

[Not a Cop]

No bites?

Doesn't seem to be any sort of more or less significant F-U ancestry, but post Eurogenes K-36.

Overall looks like a regular Slav\West Euro mongreloid.

[Figaro]

Doesn't seem to be any sort of more or less significant F-U ancestry, but post Eurogenes K-36.

Overall looks like a regular Slav\West Euro mongreloid.

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread for fun. I'm not sure what my original intent was with this thread, I guess I was curious to see if her eastern european side would show any assimilated Mordvin ancestry or any such. I suppose a lot of Slavs though get Mordvin-type hits.

Anyhoot, here's the Eurogenes K36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.41 Pct
Armenian 0.44 Pct
Basque 2.16 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.92 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.65 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.43 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 14.50 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.57 Pct
French 4.95 Pct
Iberian 4.89 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.57 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 11.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.88 Pct
North_Sea 11.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.39 Pct
South_Central_Asian 0.71 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.34 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.23 Pct

If you had to guess, what would you guess here?

[ph2ter]

Just thought I'd resurrect this thread for fun. I'm not sure what my original intent was with this thread, I guess I was curious to see if her eastern european side would show any assimilated Mordvin ancestry or any such. I suppose a lot of Slavs though get Mordvin-type hits.

Anyhoot, here's the Eurogenes K36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 0.41 Pct
Armenian 0.44 Pct
Basque 2.16 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 8.92 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 3.65 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 15.43 Pct
East_Med -
Eastern_Euro 14.50 Pct
Fennoscandian 7.57 Pct
French 4.95 Pct
Iberian 4.89 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 9.57 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 11.48 Pct
North_Caucasian 1.88 Pct
North_Sea 11.48 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian 0.39 Pct
South_Central_Asian 0.71 Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural 1.34 Pct
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 0.23 Pct

If you had to guess, what would you guess here?
If he is not mixed, then he is Czech.
If yes, then he looks as Hungarian-East German mix or maybe Ukrainian/Slovak-West German mix.

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If he is not mixed, then he is Czech.
If yes, then he looks as Hungarian-East German mix or maybe Ukrainian/Slovak-West German mix.

These are my mother’s results. Her ancestry is 1/2 Polish, 1/2 Danish-German blend. She also has 1/16 Ashkenazi.

[Slavic Italian]

Kargopol has a Finnic contribution. Estonian as well. So it is likely there is a Finnic genetic contribution. Remember these calculators are far from perfect.

[Slavic Italian]

If he is not mixed, then he is Czech.
If yes, then he looks as Hungarian-East German mix or maybe Ukrainian/Slovak-West German mix.

So many of you attempt to look like experts by overthinking. It's clear there is some Finnic admixture there.

[Figaro]

So many of you attempt to look like experts by overthinking. It's clear there is some Finnic admixture there..

The selection of Kargopol Russian and Estonian together is interesting. I recently began speaking with a fully Russian relative on 23andme with most or all known ancestry from Pskov, near Estonia. I wonder if many Russians from near there migrated down to eastern Poland or Belarus...

[Slavic Italian]

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The selection of Kargopol Russian and Estonian together is interesting. I recently began speaking with a fully Russian relative on 23andme with most or all known ancestry from Pskov, near Estonia. I wonder if many Russians from near there migrated down to eastern Poland or Belarus...

Remember the Russian government moved Russians into areas like Poland and Belarus to Russify those territories so very possible.

[Leto]

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The selection of Kargopol Russian and Estonian together is interesting. I recently began speaking with a fully Russian relative on 23andme with most or all known ancestry from Pskov, near Estonia. I wonder if many Russians from near there migrated down to eastern Poland or Belarus...
There was never a sizeable Russian community in Poland. Belarus is a different story, it's a young country and identity to begin with.
What are the Russian's results? How much Eastern European? Any Finnish?

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There was never a sizeable Russian community in Poland. Belarus is a different story, it's a young country and identity to begin with.
What are the Russian's results? How much Eastern European? Any Finnish?
Right, i didn’t figure the borders of modern Poland contained very many.

My Russian relative shows up as 99.99% east euro, no Finnish assigned him. His paternal haplogroup is the very Slavic R-z93

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Also, keep in mind this guy and my mother are like five generations removed.

[Leto]

Right, i didn’t figure the borders of modern Poland contained very many.

My Russian relative shows up as 99.99% east euro, no Finnish assigned him. His paternal haplogroup is the very Slavic R-z93
I see. Z93 is the Asian/Aryan branch, I believe.

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I see. Z93 is the Asian/Aryan branch, I believe.

Oh yes, but isn’t it’s very well represented among East Slavs as well, isn’t it?

Anyway, cool to know I may have Russian ancestry. My family would say there was some Russian in there, but I just chalked that up to our Eastern European side being from Belarus, which was under the Empire.

[Leto]

23andme is quite simplistic now. People often get 99-100%.

[Leto]

Oh yes, but isn’t it’s very well represented among East Slavs as well, isn’t it?

No, we're Z282 in most cases.

[Slavic Italian]

No, we're Z282 in most cases.

Russia is 38% L260.

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I’ll have to ask him about all of the regions in Russia 23 “assigns” him. I did notice it mentioned Krasnodar Krai in the preview, for him.

For my mother, 23 assigns her Lipetsk, Bashkortostan, chelbynsk, and Orenburg. These western Siberian places could just be relatives who were placed eastwardly in more recent decades. My Eastern Europeans migrated to Wisconsin from the Russian empire around 1910. Curious to pinpoint where in Russia my Russians were from.

[oszkar07]

These are my mother’s results. Her ancestry is 1/2 Polish, 1/2 Danish-German blend. She also has 1/16 Ashkenazi.

Can you post her Eurogenes Jtest.

[ph2ter]

So many of you attempt to look like experts by overthinking. It's clear there is some Finnic admixture there.

She is Polish-German-Danish-Ashkenazi. Nothing Finnish or Finnic.
Her Fennoscandian is lower than mine as is also Volga-Ural.

[Slavic Italian]

She is Polish-German-Danish-Ashkenazi. Nothing Finnish or Finnic.
Her Fennoscandian is lower than mine as is also Volga-Ural.

That is bullshit. She is showing plenty enough and even showing Finnic samples in the oracles. It's that simple. She needs to do an IBD analysis from Davidski. These calculators suck on mixed people.

[Slavic Italian]

She is Polish-German-Danish-Ashkenazi. Nothing Finnish or Finnic.
Her Fennoscandian is lower than mine as is also Volga-Ural.

I have some of the same issues on these calcs and Davidski's IBS analysis clarified a few things for me. I even have some East Asian. This is what he said about me.


Yeah, I had a look over your IBD hits with about 3,000 academic reference samples. It appears that you have recent ancestry from the English, East Slavs (especially Russians and Uralics from Russia), South Slavs (especially Croatians), Italians, and Jews (especially Sephardi Jews).

You also show a smattering of other stuff, including maybe some ancestry from the Near East, but that may be connected to the Jewish ancestry. So your ancestry is very complex, and probably somewhat more complex than even a FOUR-WAY MIXTURE MODEL can describe.

[Figaro]

She is Polish-German-Danish-Ashkenazi. Nothing Finnish or Finnic.
Her Fennoscandian is lower than mine as is also Volga-Ural.

True, but the Polish side came from today’s Belarus, and immigrated to the states when it was part of the Russian empire. As in said earlier, I have Russian matches with all known ancestry within Russia.

Surely by the time of my mother’s generation, this Russian became mixed with Poles/Ruthenians and then with my maternal grandfathers side, with NW Europeans (her Danish/German side). Any little F-U was no doubt diluted fairly well by then.

[Slavic Italian]

True, but the Polish side came from today’s Belarus, and immigrated to the states when it was part of the Russian empire. As in said earlier, I have Russian matches with all known ancestry within Russia.

Surely by the time of my mother’s generation, this Russian became mixed with Poles/Ruthenians and then with my maternal grandfathers side, with NW Europeans (her Danish/German side). Any little F-U was no doubt diluted fairly well by then.
Do an IBD analysis. You will get your answers there.

[Figaro]

Do an IBD analysis. You will get your answers there.

Thanks, I'll look into this and see if he's still offering this.

[Slavic Italian]

True, but the Polish side came from today’s Belarus, and immigrated to the states when it was part of the Russian empire. As in said earlier, I have Russian matches with all known ancestry within Russia.

Surely by the time of my mother’s generation, this Russian became mixed with Poles/Ruthenians and then with my maternal grandfathers side, with NW Europeans (her Danish/German side). Any little F-U was no doubt diluted fairly well by then.

Don't let any of these people mislead you. I have done my research. I have followed what a lot of people say here. A lot of people here do not know half of what they think they do. They will mislead you without giving it a second thought. Do an IBD analysis. You will thank me for it. I have even had one be totally dishonest with me about my ancestry. He puts up a kit number from ancestry he said I did not have and I match it at larger segments than what pure Euros do and he locks the thread to prevent further discussion. Don't trust these people bro.

[Figaro]

Can you post her Eurogenes Jtest.

I suppose, but it's not great for detecting precise amount of Jewish ancestry. Davidski himeself has admitted this. My mother is confirmed 6.25% AJ, Jtest does not reflect it well.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 20.92
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.20
3 EAST_EURO 19.20
4 ATLANTIC 18.94
5 WEST_MED 8.06
6 ASHKENAZI 4.31
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.67
8 EAST_MED 3.11
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.21


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AT @ 9.702558
2 HU @ 9.746754
3 PL @ 10.130614
4 South_Finnish @ 11.367184
5 North_Swedish @ 11.417084
6 West_Russian @ 12.061263
7 UA @ 12.187545
8 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 12.811086
9 Ukrainian-Russian @ 13.223729
10 West_&_Central_German @ 13.562163
11 NO @ 13.706548
12 NL @ 14.519299
13 EE @ 14.813371
14 Belorussian @ 14.864437
15 DK @ 15.006391
16 East_Finnish @ 15.231449
17 Serbian @ 15.755107
18 East_Russian @ 15.847150
19 Orcadian @ 16.798714
20 English @ 17.272581

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% NL +50% Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.594697


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% NL +25% Ukrainian-Russian +25% West_Russian @ 2.592690


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 AT + DK + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.076493
2 AT + IE + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.105139
3 AT + East_Russian + Orcadian + PL @ 2.124659
4 AT + Scottish + Ukrainian-Russian + Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.132146
5 AT + Cornish + East_Russian + PL @ 2.176557
6 AT + East_Russian + IE + PL @ 2.185293
7 AT + IE + Ukrainian-Russian + Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.189569
8 AT + Orcadian + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.190545
9 AT + Scottish + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.199825
10 AT + Cornish + North_Russian + PL @ 2.201624
11 AT + IE + North_Russian + PL @ 2.212204
12 AT + East_Russian + Scottish + UA @ 2.232908
13 AT + East_Russian + Scottish + Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.238797
14 AT + East_Russian + PL + Scottish @ 2.244236
15 AT + North_Russian + Orcadian + PL @ 2.274768
16 Cornish + Ukrainian-Russian + Ukrainian-Russian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.286807
17 AT + Cornish + East_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.316954
18 AT + IE + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.331646
19 AT + DK + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.338766
20 AT + Orcadian + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.341138

[Luke35]

Do an IBD analysis. You will get your answers there.

Excellent advice, thank you! I just emailed Davidski to see if he is still offering this..

[Figaro]

Excellent advice, thank you! I just emailed Davidski to see if he is still offering this..

What was that address? I did some digging, couldn't find.

What does he expect one to send with said email?

[Luke35]

What was that address? I did some digging, couldn't find.

What does he expect one to send with said email?

I found a contact form on his Eurogenes blog. If you Google 'Davidski Eurogenes blog' you'll see it. I am guessing he charges a fee (hopefully small) and will need either the Gedmatch kit # or raw data file, I'm not sure. I had Lukasz do some analysis for me and he charges a small fee using Paypal, so maybe it's similar to that.

[oszkar07]

I suppose, but it's not great for detecting precise amount of Jewish ancestry. Davidski himeself has admitted this. My mother is confirmed 6.25% AJ, Jtest does not reflect it well.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 20.92
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.20
3 EAST_EURO 19.20
4 ATLANTIC 18.94
5 WEST_MED 8.06
6 ASHKENAZI 4.31
7 WEST_ASIAN 3.67
8 EAST_MED 3.11
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.21


Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
14 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 AT @ 9.702558
2 HU @ 9.746754
3 PL @ 10.130614
4 South_Finnish @ 11.367184
5 North_Swedish @ 11.417084
6 West_Russian @ 12.061263
7 UA @ 12.187545
8 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 12.811086
9 Ukrainian-Russian @ 13.223729
10 West_&_Central_German @ 13.562163
11 NO @ 13.706548
12 NL @ 14.519299
13 EE @ 14.813371
14 Belorussian @ 14.864437
15 DK @ 15.006391
16 East_Finnish @ 15.231449
17 Serbian @ 15.755107
18 East_Russian @ 15.847150
19 Orcadian @ 16.798714
20 English @ 17.272581

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% NL +50% Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.594697


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% NL +25% Ukrainian-Russian +25% West_Russian @ 2.592690


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 AT + DK + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.076493
2 AT + IE + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.105139
3 AT + East_Russian + Orcadian + PL @ 2.124659
4 AT + Scottish + Ukrainian-Russian + Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.132146
5 AT + Cornish + East_Russian + PL @ 2.176557
6 AT + East_Russian + IE + PL @ 2.185293
7 AT + IE + Ukrainian-Russian + Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.189569
8 AT + Orcadian + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.190545
9 AT + Scottish + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.199825
10 AT + Cornish + North_Russian + PL @ 2.201624
11 AT + IE + North_Russian + PL @ 2.212204
12 AT + East_Russian + Scottish + UA @ 2.232908
13 AT + East_Russian + Scottish + Ukrainian-Russian @ 2.238797
14 AT + East_Russian + PL + Scottish @ 2.244236
15 AT + North_Russian + Orcadian + PL @ 2.274768
16 Cornish + Ukrainian-Russian + Ukrainian-Russian + West_&_Central_German @ 2.286807
17 AT + Cornish + East_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.316954
18 AT + IE + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.331646
19 AT + DK + Ukrainian-Russian + West_Russian @ 2.338766
20 AT + Orcadian + West_Russian + West_Russian @ 2.341138

Nice results.
Yeah I think as suggested might be good to do the IBD test , if Davidski is still doing I might do it also.

My British Mother has been told that she has some distant Spanish Jew/Sephardic in her ancestry but I dont get any specific
Sephardic references or clusteringin any of my DNA Test's.
But on the JTest I get Ashkenazi 4.87 ...a little higher than your Mother score , so Im not sure if its indicative of Ashkenazi in me or just noise. Here is my Jtest ...

# Population Percent
1 ATLANTIC 23.11
2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 20.03
3 SOUTH_BALTIC 17.37
4 EAST_EURO 14.89
5 WEST_MED 10.21
6 WEST_ASIAN 5.36
7 ASHKENAZI 4.87
8 EAST_MED 3.93
9 SIBERIAN 0.14
10 WEST_AFRICAN 0.07


# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 5.41
2 West_&_Central_German 7.56
3 NL 8.48
4 HU 8.86
5 Cornish 9.95
6 Orcadian 10.09
7 South_&_Central_Swedish 10.22
8 NO 10.42
9 DK 10.54
10 English 10.75
11 IE 10.84
12 North_Swedish 11.37
13 Scottish 11.58
14 Serbian 12.73
15 FR 13.07
16 PL 14.83
17 RO 15.28
18 South_Finnish 15.59
19 UA 16.57
20 West_Russian 16.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.1% HU + 42.9% Scottish @ 2.49
2 55.4% HU + 44.6% IE @ 2.69
3 53.5% HU + 46.5% Orcadian @ 2.72
4 53.4% HU + 46.6% Cornish @ 3.43
5 65.2% Cornish + 34.8% Ukrainian-Russian @ 3.54
6 63.8% Cornish + 36.2% West_Russian @ 3.74
7 73.8% AT + 26.2% Scottish @ 3.77
8 72.5% AT + 27.5% IE @ 3.81
9 71% AT + 29% Orcadian @ 3.85
10 63.8% Cornish + 36.2% UA @ 3.99
11 55.2% HU + 44.8% DK @ 4.01
12 51.4% NL + 48.6% HU @ 4.12
13 61.2% Cornish + 38.8% PL @ 4.13
14 56.6% FR + 43.4% West_Russian @ 4.14
15 55.9% HU + 44.1% English @ 4.15
16 75.5% AT + 24.5% North_Swedish @ 4.18
17 73.5% AT + 26.5% NO @ 4.19
18 73.8% AT + 26.2% South_&_Central_Swedish @ 4.3
19 55.1% HU + 44.9% NO @ 4.36
20 55.5% West_&_Central_German + 44.5% HU @ 4.37

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Nice results.
Yeah I think as suggested might be good to do the IBD test , if Davidski is still doing I might do it also.

My British Mother has been told that she has some distant Spanish Jew/Sephardic in her ancestry but I dont get any specific
Sephardic references or clusteringin any of my DNA Test's.
But on the JTest I get Ashkenazi 4.87 ..

Jtest is weird and unpredictable. I wouldn’t pay much attention to it. I’ve seen people offully Northern European descent with no AJ on 23andme show over Five percent AJ.

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I’ve been going through my moms matches on 23 with all four grandparents from Russia (10 of them)...Penza oblast is listed by 2-3 as at least one grandparents place of birth. This is interesting because that’s pretty close to Lipetsk, a part of Russia highlighted by 23 in my mother’s regional breakdown in Russia.

Would this still make sense given the F-U “hits” she gets? A little assimilated Mordvin perhaps?

One of my other matches says he’s from Pskov, although I’m not certain how much of him is real deep rooted from there. I’m awaiting his responses to a couple of my questions. Possibly worthy to note he shows up as 99.9% east euro, and is R-Z93.

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Final bump on this

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Heh, for what its worth, I just checked my mother’s account on mytrueancestry. She shares a bit with the Bronze Age estonian on there.

Yes, I’m well aware there are numerous possible explanations...

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Relying on MyTrueAncestry for this sort of thing might not actually be a terrible secondary thing to consider. Here's her Knight level results:

1. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (6.005) (Click for more info)
2. Western Pomerania Unetice (2000 BC) (7.922) (Click for more info)
3. Western Pomerania Unetice (1860 BC) (7.922) (Click for more info)
4. Avar (590 AD) (8.86) (Click for more info)
5. Scythian Ukraine (600 BC) (10.3) (Click for more info)
6. Kievan Rus (1130 AD) (11.3) (Click for more info)
7. Halstatt (775 BC) (12.62) (Click for more info)
8. Medieval Czech Brandysek (710 AD) (13.0) (Click for more info)
9. Visigoth Mixed Slav Girona (550 AD) (13.59) (Click for more info)
10. Germanic Lombard (590 AD) (13.72) (Click for more info)
11. Avar (590 AD) (14.03) (Click for more info)
12. Caspian Steppes (1550 BC) (14.26) (Click for more info)
13. Scythian Moldova (300 BC) (14.39) (Click for more info)
14. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (14.61) (Click for more info)
15. Bell Beaker Salisbury (2200 BC) (14.85) (Click for more info)
16. Siberia Andronovo (1500 BC) (14.98) (Click for more info)
17. Late Bronze Age Estonia (580 BC) (15.17) (Click for more info)
18. Medieval Tyrolian (590 AD) (15.21) (Click for more info)
19. Late Bronze Age Estonia (610 BC) (15.26) (Click for more info)
20. Bell Beaker England (2000 BC) (15.51) (Click for more info)
21. Iron Age Ingria (130 AD) (15.74) (Click for more info)
22. Ancient Gotlander (2750 BC) (15.78) (Click for more info)
23. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (15.97) (Click for more info)
24. Alemannic Bavaria (450 AD) (16.02) (Click for more info)
25. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (16.07) (Click for more info)
26. Bell Beaker Oxford (2150 BC) (16.34) (Click for more info)
27. Bell Beaker Amesbury (2150 BC) (16.42) (Click for more info)
28. Corded Ware Germany (2400 BC) (16.74) (Click for more info)
29. Alemannic Bavaria (500 AD) (16.75) (Click for more info)
30. Bell Beaker Poland (2500 BC) (16.85) (Click for more info)
31. Viking Sweden (1100 AD) (16.96) (Click for more info)
32. Hungary Iron Age (800 BC) (17.27) (Click for more info)
33. Ancient Gotlander (2750 BC) (17.3) (Click for more info)
34. Bell Beaker Scotland (2145 BC) (17.32) (Click for more info)
35. Celtic Gladiator York (250 AD) (17.33) (Click for more info)
36. Bell Beaker Germany (2500 BC) (17.39) (Click for more info)
37. Late Medieval Livonia (1585 AD) (17.4) (Click for more info)
38. Swiss Germanic (670 AD) (17.41) (Click for more info)
39. Iron Age Saaremaa Oesel (215 BC) (17.6) (Click for more info)
40. Iron Age Oeselian Saaremaa (420 BC) (17.61) (Click for more info)
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In addition, I emailed Davidski some weeks back about the IBD analysis. Doesn't do it anymore.