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user_
05-30-2017, 06:57 PM
I post pictures of georgian man from rural area, this is how real georgian man from countryside look. No fancy groups from clubs, and girls with make up. Jusr real brutal man from 30 to 40.
So rate how swarthy they are for your country. Write your country too.

http://i056.radikal.ru/1705/a2/48ed5419aa90t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/98zrz2tmo637a)

http://s016.radikal.ru/i337/1705/1b/c14f4a2528d1.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s16.radikal.ru/i191/1705/84/ffc9a9521376t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/awxps0gk3wunl)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i519/1705/76/db5f2522ff39t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/cwz5g1fjwoy3d)

http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1705/7e/a0b61691d74d.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s011.radikal.ru/i315/1705/32/166972b37f1ft.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/z4ej380a8fq68)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i623/1705/ac/5a28671c7fac.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i619/1705/a8/4a94e27a2fed.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s011.radikal.ru/i317/1705/51/bfd77534543f.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i504/1705/19/28ac75dff778t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/9e5irwfnvbg90)

http://s016.radikal.ru/i337/1705/a4/12b5d8c1f36d.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

Shah-Jehan
05-30-2017, 06:59 PM
Would be seen as Armenian in Canada I'm guessing, possibly Iranian as well.

user_
05-30-2017, 07:00 PM
Would be seen as Armenian in Canada I'm guessing, possibly Iranian as well.

For Canada maybe :D

Lavrentis
05-30-2017, 07:03 PM
They seem to have their own looks. The guy below looks Slavic, passes in Poland.

http://s016.radikal.ru/i337/1705/1b/c14f4a2528d1.jpg

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 07:04 PM
not swarthy . they are as a group also lighter than us

Grishnack
05-30-2017, 07:07 PM
I think most of them would pass without problems in Romania.

Antimage
05-30-2017, 07:09 PM
They wouldn1t be seen as swarthy. Maybe the last one only.

user_
05-30-2017, 07:09 PM
They seem to have their own looks. The guy below looks Slavic, passes in Poland.

http://s016.radikal.ru/i337/1705/1b/c14f4a2528d1.jpg

This guy looks very very georgian, i dont think he pass in Poland, maybe in Balkan.

Cristiano viejo
05-30-2017, 07:09 PM
Would be seen as Armenian in Canada I'm guessing, possibly Iranian as well.

trololol
They look white.

Shah-Jehan
05-30-2017, 07:16 PM
trololol
They look white.

I never said anything about looking not white. They obviously resemble their neighbours more (armenians), no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0CsF5Gm3_g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZc5HQcJPw

Antimage
05-30-2017, 07:24 PM
I never said anything about looking not white. They obviously resemble their neighbours more (armenians), no?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0CsF5Gm3_g


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGZc5HQcJPw

They don't imo. Maybe some do, the ones posted here don't look armenian imo.

wvwvw
05-30-2017, 07:34 PM
Τhey look Georgians

user_
05-30-2017, 07:37 PM
Another portion. Ok, later i'll make thread about armenian men from rural areas.
This time georgians.
http://s018.radikal.ru/i514/1705/54/1ad2bde7a7ee.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://i053.radikal.ru/1705/ff/c70c2f11ac41.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i526/1705/15/13e23d0aadb6.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s009.radikal.ru/i307/1705/24/3b5669e361ab.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://i056.radikal.ru/1705/06/ab83a1fdb32f.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i622/1705/50/84fef5ff9504.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i633/1705/ed/e0d0bece7802.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i504/1705/66/a7c70c53e9b4.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s014.radikal.ru/i327/1705/e2/3d9dfc5fee70t.jpg (http://radikal.ru/big/x1xby8hv6c6sv)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i642/1705/4c/e43581a8e380.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s011.radikal.ru/i315/1705/ac/fe00d1de4e2d.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

Shahqulu
05-30-2017, 07:38 PM
They resemble Laz people.

user_
05-30-2017, 07:49 PM
They resemble Laz people.

Obviously Laz are georgians, they are turkified.

Shahqulu
05-30-2017, 07:50 PM
Obviously Laz are georgians, they are turkified.

They still identify themselves as Laz, their nationality is Turkish though.

Jana
05-30-2017, 07:53 PM
Photos in the OP would look average pigmentation in croatia and wouldn't really stick out, people would think they're locals. Other set on post #13 looks different and distinct Kavkaz to me.

brennus dux gallorum
05-30-2017, 07:54 PM
not swarthy, but craniofacially unpassable

RN97
05-30-2017, 08:01 PM
Not swarthy. I don't get how Georgians can look like that yet be genetically pretty much near eastern/ middle eastern.

user_
05-30-2017, 08:08 PM
Not swarthy. I don't get how Georgians can look like that yet be genetically pretty much near eastern/ middle eastern.

Climate maybe? or maybe CHG is not swarthy itself?

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 08:12 PM
Climate maybe?

I dont know if all I am saying is for nothing :( I repeat myself again and again and even though what I say is obviously the reality people dont seem to either accept it or ignore me =( . georgians are not middle eastern but west asian . they are THE west asians

the 2 major components georgians score is caucasus/west asian which peaks also in west georgia and among circassians + east med . both components are also to find in a decent amount in south europeans . so if georgians are middle eastern then south europeans are like 30% middle eastern

georgian k13 results


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 53.16
2 East_Med 19.31
3 West_Med 9.54
4 North_Atlantic 6.61
5 Baltic 5.23
6 South_Asian 2.98
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
11 Oceanian 0.03
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 3.99
2 Abhkasian 5.63
3 Ossetian 7.81
4 Adygei 8.78
5 North_Ossetian 9.75
6 Balkar 11.24
7 Kumyk 12.68
8 Kabardin 12.73
9 Chechen 13.28
10 Lezgin 13.98
11 Kurdish 16.03
12 Tabassaran 16.19
13 Azeri 18.88
14 Iranian 19.12
15 Armenian 19.36
16 Turkish 21.79
17 Georgian_Jewish 22.38
18 Turkmen 23.45
19 Makrani 25.95
20 Assyrian 26.1


---


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 51.92
2 East_Med 26.05
3 West_Med 8.14
4 Baltic 5.93
5 North_Atlantic 4.19
6 South_Asian 2.03
7 Red_Sea 1.05
8 Oceanian 0.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 4.69
2 Abhkasian 4.99
3 Adygei 11
4 Ossetian 12.37
5 North_Ossetian 12.78
6 Kurdish 12.93
7 Kumyk 13.68
8 Balkar 14
9 Armenian 15.5
10 Kabardin 15.57
11 Lezgin 16.03
12 Chechen 16.1
13 Iranian 16.32
14 Azeri 16.68
15 Georgian_Jewish 18.21
16 Tabassaran 19.04
17 Turkish 19.93
18 Assyrian 21.95
19 Turkmen 23.7
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.41


-----


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 50.19
2 East_Med 24.69
3 Baltic 8.2
4 West_Med 7.95
5 South_Asian 2.82
6 Red_Sea 2.69
7 North_Atlantic 2.44
8 Oceanian 0.67
9 East_Asian 0.26
10 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 4.63
2 Abhkasian 5.72
3 Adygei 9.1
4 North_Ossetian 11.26
5 Ossetian 11.55
6 Kumyk 11.64
7 Kurdish 11.96
8 Balkar 12.51
9 Kabardin 13.69
10 Chechen 14.49
11 Lezgin 14.63
12 Iranian 14.87
13 Azeri 15.44
14 Armenian 15.45
15 Georgian_Jewish 17.44
16 Tabassaran 17.82
17 Turkish 18.95
18 Assyrian 21.42
19 Turkmen 22.39
20 Kurdish_Jewish 24.83

Sacrificed Ram
05-30-2017, 08:20 PM
Skin color: Average white to whitest.

Traits: Alien, maybe an exotic in lebanese community.

They are whiter than average local armenians.

user_
05-30-2017, 08:33 PM
I guess skin, hair and eye color is not the reason why Georgians would look alien in west, this it's face structure, which is strongly Caucasian or west Asian, but not Middle Eastern.

Army
http://s019.radikal.ru/i630/1705/84/8bde553984cd.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i620/1705/39/150b6fcb4255.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i642/1705/dd/64319c09c03b.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s46.radikal.ru/i111/1705/7a/b49961a43062.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s018.radikal.ru/i502/1705/37/2d17f53e8633.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

Government
http://s018.radikal.ru/i514/1705/6f/bb2e7ac536f2.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s014.radikal.ru/i328/1705/5f/b751199a129a.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s019.radikal.ru/i632/1705/c4/7b11c50dbaca.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s002.radikal.ru/i198/1705/aa/e8903e520820.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

http://s010.radikal.ru/i314/1705/e6/7f4e054b05bb.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

RN97
05-30-2017, 08:43 PM
I dont know if all I am saying is for nothing :( I repeat myself again and again and even though what I say is obviously the reality people dont seem to either accept it or ignore me =( . georgians are not middle eastern but west asian . they are THE west asians

the 2 major components georgians score is caucasus/west asian which peaks also in west georgia and among circassians + east med . both components are also to find in a decent amount in south europeans . so if georgians are middle eastern then south europeans are like 30% middle eastern

georgian k13 results


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 53.16
2 East_Med 19.31
3 West_Med 9.54
4 North_Atlantic 6.61
5 Baltic 5.23
6 South_Asian 2.98
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 East_Asian 0.89
9 Amerindian 0.6
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11
11 Oceanian 0.03
12 Siberian 0.01

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 3.99
2 Abhkasian 5.63
3 Ossetian 7.81
4 Adygei 8.78
5 North_Ossetian 9.75
6 Balkar 11.24
7 Kumyk 12.68
8 Kabardin 12.73
9 Chechen 13.28
10 Lezgin 13.98
11 Kurdish 16.03
12 Tabassaran 16.19
13 Azeri 18.88
14 Iranian 19.12
15 Armenian 19.36
16 Turkish 21.79
17 Georgian_Jewish 22.38
18 Turkmen 23.45
19 Makrani 25.95
20 Assyrian 26.1


---


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 51.92
2 East_Med 26.05
3 West_Med 8.14
4 Baltic 5.93
5 North_Atlantic 4.19
6 South_Asian 2.03
7 Red_Sea 1.05
8 Oceanian 0.7

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 4.69
2 Abhkasian 4.99
3 Adygei 11
4 Ossetian 12.37
5 North_Ossetian 12.78
6 Kurdish 12.93
7 Kumyk 13.68
8 Balkar 14
9 Armenian 15.5
10 Kabardin 15.57
11 Lezgin 16.03
12 Chechen 16.1
13 Iranian 16.32
14 Azeri 16.68
15 Georgian_Jewish 18.21
16 Tabassaran 19.04
17 Turkish 19.93
18 Assyrian 21.95
19 Turkmen 23.7
20 Kurdish_Jewish 25.41


-----


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asian 50.19
2 East_Med 24.69
3 Baltic 8.2
4 West_Med 7.95
5 South_Asian 2.82
6 Red_Sea 2.69
7 North_Atlantic 2.44
8 Oceanian 0.67
9 East_Asian 0.26
10 Siberian 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Georgian 4.63
2 Abhkasian 5.72
3 Adygei 9.1
4 North_Ossetian 11.26
5 Ossetian 11.55
6 Kumyk 11.64
7 Kurdish 11.96
8 Balkar 12.51
9 Kabardin 13.69
10 Chechen 14.49
11 Lezgin 14.63
12 Iranian 14.87
13 Azeri 15.44
14 Armenian 15.45
15 Georgian_Jewish 17.44
16 Tabassaran 17.82
17 Turkish 18.95
18 Assyrian 21.42
19 Turkmen 22.39
20 Kurdish_Jewish 24.83

It does not matter fam. It's about the genetic similarity of people and components. It does not matter what you call them. Look at a PCA plot pls-

Kamal900
05-30-2017, 08:45 PM
They wouldn't pass in the Levant since a lot of them look very light.

Seya
05-30-2017, 08:47 PM
i always found Georgians looking East Balkan. this ones are no exception either

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 08:51 PM
It does not matter fam. It's about the genetic similarity of people and components. It does not matter what you call them. Look at a PCA plot pls-

they dont cluster with middle easterners . unless you call Armenians , Kurds , Assyrians , Ossetians etc. middle eastern which is not quite correct either (yes it is not) . these people are also west asians but they have (more) middle eastern effect which is one of the reasons along with climate why georgians as a group on average are lighter etc. but the other west asians are not exactly fitting the stereotypical middle eastern picture that much either and the more people learn about those ethnicities the more they will realize this. georgians as a group definitely are the most euro leaning west asians. which I personally mostly say for the sake of truth and anthro/genetic interest . I dont view arabians etc. as bad or less worth for that matter no way .

one of the major reasons why georgians (and other west asians) dont plot together with europeans on pca is because they have the caucasus component in a very high amount ..same with east med . and other than that the other components are only 10-20% or so

what you say is similar to if I said that a south european is not european because he doesnt plot with a scottish

Vyasa
05-30-2017, 08:54 PM
Would be seen as Armenian in Canada I'm guessing, possibly Iranian as well.

No way. People would see them as exotic Euros, maybe Balkanites

RN97
05-30-2017, 08:55 PM
they dont cluster with middle easterners . unless you call Armenians , Kurds , Assyrians , Ossetians etc. middle eastern which is not quite correct either (yes it is not) . these people are also west asians but they have (more) middle eastern effect which is one of the reasons along with climate why georgians as a group on average are lighter etc. but the other west asians are not exactly fitting the stereotypical middle eastern picture that much either and the more people learn about those ethnicities the more they will realize this. which I personally mostly say for the sake of truth and anthro/genetic interest . I dont view arabians etc. as bad or less worth for that matter no way .

one of the major reasons why georgians (and other west asians) dont plot together with europeans on pca is because they have the caucasus component in a very high amount ..same with east med . and other than that the other components are only 10-20% or so

what you say is similar to if I said that a south european is not european because he doesnt plot with a scottish

They have genetic continuity with Iranians even on some plots. They don't cluster far from middle easterners and they do look out of place compared to who they show the most genetic affinity towards.

Shah-Jehan
05-30-2017, 08:57 PM
No way. People would see them as exotic Euros, maybe Balkanites

They see Armenians as exotic White people as well.

Vyasa
05-30-2017, 08:58 PM
They see Armenians as exotic White people as well.

Depends. All the Armenians I've seen irl looked like Iranians and no one sees Iranians as white people

Myanthropologies
05-30-2017, 08:59 PM
0% swarthy lol - United States of America.

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 08:59 PM
They have genetic continuity with Iranians even on some plots. They don't cluster far from middle easterners and they do look out of place compared to who they show the most genetic affinity towards.

first of all iranians are rather diverse and also have many people who dont look like what you have in mind when you think of iranian .

second iranians have high CHG and also a good amount of eastern med genetics thats why they plot so close . but iranians have also south central asian and arab admix which again depends also on the iranian itself . you can not compare a gilak iranian from northwest with a baloch in southeast with an araboiranian in deep south etc. etc. . also needless to say that iran has hotter climate . and yes georgians are the most euro looking west asians

third if thats what makes georgians middle eastern then certain europeans are west asian or near eastern and not european since they cluster closer to the latter than to many europeans

Shah-Jehan
05-30-2017, 09:00 PM
Depends. All the Armenians I've seen irl looked like Iranians and no one sees Iranians as white people

True, featurewise, but some of them are often depigmented, and if they're alpine types, they appear less ethnikid.

Kamal900
05-30-2017, 09:01 PM
True, featurewise, but some of them are often depigmented, and if they're alpine types, they appear less ethnikid.

I was mistaken for a Jew back in New York city, and even my African American professor thought I was a White American.

RN97
05-30-2017, 09:05 PM
first of all iranians are rather diverse and also have many people who dont look like what you have in mind when you think of iranian .

second iranians have high CHG and also a good amount of eastern med genetics thats why they plot so close . but iranians have also south central asian and arab admix which again depends also on the iranian itself . you can not compare a gilak iranian from northwest with a baloch in southeast with an araboiranian in deep south etc. etc. . also needless to say that iran has hotter climate . and yes georgians are the most euro looking west asians

third if thats what makes georgians middle eastern then certain europeans are west asian or near eastern and not european since they cluster closer to the latter than to many europeans

Muh CHG.... I've heard this shit a lot of times from caucasians that doesn't want to be like middle easterners. Clearly CHG is mostly basal with ANE admixture. It's like how EEF is Basal + WHG. It would be like Sardinians claiming that they have nothing in common with Sicilians because they have EEF while Sicilians have more basal..... Obviously CHG is less basal than basal itself, but it's a component that's not so far away really..... Most middle easterners have some ANE as well, just not as much as caucasians, that's what separates them the most BTW, not European (WHG admixture). That's why they plot so peculiar, because ANE and basal are components quite far from each other. The same goes for Iranians. Otherwise, CHG is called so because they were Caucasus hunter gatherers, but a lot of evidence points to them being basal with some ANE. It's the same as Poles saying they don't have ANE, they have EHG. The best way to try understanding caucasoids is to break it down to ANE, WHG and basal Eurasian. Most other components are just mixes of those.

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 09:11 PM
Muh CHG.... I've heard this shit a lot of times from caucasians that doesn't want to be like middle easterners. Clearly CHG is mostly basal with ANE admixture. It's like how EEF is Basal + WHG. It would be like Sardinians claiming that they have nothing in common with Sicilians because they have EEF while Sicilians have more basal..... Obviously CHG is less basal than basal itself, but it's a component that's not so far away really..... Most middle easterners have some ANE as well, just not as much as caucasians, that's what separates them the most BTW, not European (WHG admixture). That's why they plot so peculiar, because ANE and basal are components quite far from each other. The same goes for Iranians. Otherwise, CHG is called so because they were Caucasus hunter gatherers, but a lot of evidence points to them being basal with some ANE. It's the same as Poles saying they don't have ANE, they have EHG. The best way to try understanding caucasoids is to break it down to ANE, WHG and basal Eurasian. Most other components are just mixes of those.

then south europeans are a good chunk middle eastern because they score those things in relatively high % too . which of course I bet you will not agree with right

RN97
05-30-2017, 09:13 PM
then south europeans are a good chunk middle eastern because they score those things in relatively high % too . which of course I bet you will not agree with right

Nah, I would agree. The components might have been more "adapted" to their climate, which might explain a great deal about why Georgians look so different from others they cluster around, but yeah. You can't deny it.

user_
05-30-2017, 09:14 PM
Okay, let's make clear what is Arab look, and what is caucasus look.

On the right side Arab guy, on the left side Caucasian. I don't know how they cluster together genetically.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1705/c4/2e81b20c597b.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 09:14 PM
Nah, I would agree.

then I am confused

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 09:15 PM
Okay, let's make clear what is Arab look, and what is caucasus look.

On the right side Ara guyb, on the left side Georgian. I don't know how they cluster together genetically.
http://s019.radikal.ru/i627/1705/c4/2e81b20c597b.jpg (http://radikal.ru)

they dont cluster together

here a saudi arab

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 East_Med 40.98
2 Red_Sea 38.59
3 Northeast_African 8.1
4 West_Med 5.06
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 South_Asian 2.21
7 Oceanian 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Saudi 7.76
2 Yemenite_Jewish 13.97
3 Bedouin 19.62
4 Egyptian 21.62
5 Palestinian 24.68
6 Jordanian 26.13
7 Samaritan 29.05
8 Syrian 29.43
9 Lebanese_Christian 31.26
10 Libyan_Jewish 31.34
11 Tunisian_Jewish 32.1
12 Tunisian 32.44
13 Lebanese_Muslim 32.54
14 Algerian 32.88
15 Moroccan 33.19
16 Lebanese_Druze 33.33
17 Mozabite_Berber 34.87
18 Sephardic_Jewish 35.58
19 Kurdish_Jewish 35.75
20 Cyprian 35.83

RN97
05-30-2017, 09:16 PM
Okay, let's make clear what is Arab look, and what is caucasus look.

On the right side Ara guyb, on the left side Caucasian. I don't know how they cluster together genetically.


Arabs have more SSA and caucasians more ANE basically. Not only arabs are middle easterners. IMO both Turks and Iranians are also middle easterners.

RN97
05-30-2017, 09:17 PM
they dont cluster together

here a saudi arab

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 East_Med 40.98
2 Red_Sea 38.59
3 Northeast_African 8.1
4 West_Med 5.06
5 West_Asian 4.64
6 South_Asian 2.21
7 Oceanian 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.16

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Saudi 7.76
2 Yemenite_Jewish 13.97
3 Bedouin 19.62
4 Egyptian 21.62
5 Palestinian 24.68
6 Jordanian 26.13
7 Samaritan 29.05
8 Syrian 29.43
9 Lebanese_Christian 31.26
10 Libyan_Jewish 31.34
11 Tunisian_Jewish 32.1
12 Tunisian 32.44
13 Lebanese_Muslim 32.54
14 Algerian 32.88
15 Moroccan 33.19
16 Lebanese_Druze 33.33
17 Mozabite_Berber 34.87
18 Sephardic_Jewish 35.58
19 Kurdish_Jewish 35.75
20 Cyprian 35.83

http://i.imgur.com/xvRvrCO.jpg

Again bruh. Arabs are not the only middle easterners.

Kamal900
05-30-2017, 09:19 PM
IMO both Turks and Iranians are also middle easterners.

The Turks here will not be happy on what you have said just now.

RN97
05-30-2017, 09:22 PM
The Turks here will not be happy on what you have said just now.

It wasn't meant to piss them off, but....
http://i.imgur.com/zSl6G3G.png
http://i.imgur.com/v0UTP2s.png
http://i.imgur.com/uCbgDcG.gif
This is what the middle east is in my eyes. They can call themselves whatever, but intelligentsia today claims that, that is the middle east and I comply....

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 09:23 PM
http://i.imgur.com/xvRvrCO.jpg

Again bruh. Arabs are not the only middle easterners.

you dont seem to understand what I am saying . saudis dont even cluster with georgians and other west asians there so how are both "middle eastern" . middle eastern is a eurocentric term anyway and has not much significant fundament that it is based on other than "the muzzlim world they take our joooobz kill those terroriztz" which georgians dont even belong in either way . those "other middle easterners" you are talking about are west asian not middle eastern . but I think there are improvements because the word "MENA" hasnt fallen yet at least

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 09:26 PM
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This is what the middle east is in my eyes. They can call themselves whatever, but intelligentsia today claims that, that is the middle east and I comply....

so you force a term on people because you just think so even though there are big differences in genetics , looks , culture etc etc. ?

here a turkish and an egyptian result for you for comparison

turk


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 26.66
2 East_Med 26.4
3 West_Med 11.88
4 Baltic 10.11
5 North_Atlantic 7.8
6 Siberian 6.16
7 Red_Sea 4.31
8 South_Asian 2.52
9 East_Asian 2.36
10 Northeast_African 1.17
11 Sub-Saharan 0.33
12 Amerindian 0.3

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Turkish 7.45
2 Azeri 11.39
3 Turkmen 15.97
4 Kumyk 16.08
5 Georgian_Jewish 16.62
6 Kurdish 16.69
7 Central_Greek 16.89
8 Assyrian 17.09
9 Lebanese_Muslim 17.15
10 Armenian 17.2
11 Iranian 17.29
12 East_Sicilian 17.64
13 Syrian 18.05
14 South_Italian 18.42
15 Cyprian 18.54
16 Ashkenazi 18.99
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.09
18 Iranian_Jewish 19.19
19 Kurdish_Jewish 19.5
20 Balkar 19.52


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egyptian (coptic on top of it . southern egyptians would be even more different)

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 East_Med 48.61
2 Red_Sea 20.66
3 West_Med 13.19
4 Northeast_African 11.77
5 West_Asian 5.56
6 East_Asian 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Egyptian 11.25
2 Yemenite_Jewish 12.48
3 Bedouin 13.88
4 Palestinian 14.22
5 Jordanian 15.48
6 Samaritan 16.83
7 Saudi 17.72
8 Libyan_Jewish 18.76
9 Lebanese_Christian 19.38
10 Tunisian_Jewish 19.83
11 Syrian 20.74
12 Lebanese_Druze 21.57
13 Lebanese_Muslim 22.36
14 Cyprian 23.66
15 Algerian_Jewish 24.07
16 Tunisian 24.12
17 Italian_Jewish 24.79
18 Sephardic_Jewish 24.84
19 Algerian 25.53
20 Moroccan 26.66

Vyasa
05-30-2017, 09:27 PM
True, featurewise, but some of them are often depigmented, and if they're alpine types, they appear less ethnikid.

what's ethnikid

Jana
05-30-2017, 09:28 PM
I don't see the point of lumping Caucasians, Turks, Iranics and Levantines/Arabs togheder. They all look different, have different cultures, climates, histories and genetics. Just because majority of people are lazy today and have two-digit IQ doesn't mean they are the same thing. People are what they feel to be according to their traditions, not what outsiders tell them they should be.

user_
05-30-2017, 09:37 PM
I think CHG itself is "white gene". Georgians have highest CHG among all people and have no or little south and south west asian admix. Thats why they look different from other west asian people. Georgians are more pure west asians or Caucasians, than their neighbors (except Adigs).

And also climate plays huge role i think.

Hadouken
05-30-2017, 09:44 PM
I think CHG itself is "white gene". Georgians have highest CHG among all people and have no or little south and south west asian admix. Thats why they look different from other west asian people. Georgians are more pure west asians or Caucasians, than their neighbors (except Adigs).

And also climate plays huge role i think.

sorry bro but you are overestimating the south asian and sw-asian in other west asians . we have only a little more of it than you guys lol

my result


# Population Percent

1 West_Asia 43.21
2 SW_Europe 20.72
3 SW_Asia 16.66
4 NE_Europe 8.29
5 South_Asia 5.24
6 Siberia 1.5
7 West_Africa 1.27
8 Americas 1.13
9 NE_Asia 0.77
10 SE_Asia 0.62
11 South_Africa 0.58


Georgian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 West_Asia 48.06
2 SW_Europe 24.55
3 NE_Europe 11.5
4 SW_Asia 11.29
5 South_Asia 1.8
6 South_Africa 0.91
7 Americas 0.79
8 Oceania 0.47
9 Siberia 0.45
10 SE_Asia 0.18



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my result


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 Caucasian 42.94
2 Mediterranean 26.3
3 SW_Asian 10.53
4 NE_European 7.75
5 S_Indian 5.44
6 Horn_Of_Africa 3.21
7 Siberian 1.41
8 Amerindian 1.38
9 W_African 0.63
10 S_African 0.29
11 E_Asian 0.14



Georgian

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent

1 Caucasian 52.93
2 Mediterranean 27.59
3 NE_European 10.7
4 SW_Asian 6.27
5 Oceanian 0.74
6 S_Indian 0.73
7 S_African 0.42
8 Amerindian 0.32
9 Beringian 0.31


lookwise you already know how my people look too (in case you want to see again check le signature)

Annie999
05-30-2017, 09:52 PM
For uruguayans they are not swarthy, in fact this guys here looks like a total typical/average uruguayan

http://s41.radikal.ru/i094/1705/7e/a0b61691d74d.jpg

http://s016.radikal.ru/i337/1705/a4/12b5d8c1f36d.jpg

user_
05-30-2017, 09:57 PM
For uruguayans they are not swarthy, in fact this guys here looks like a total typical/average uruguayan


That means Italian or Iberian descent probably, right?

Shah-Jehan
05-30-2017, 11:46 PM
what's ethnikid

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=56069&d=1427055968

JMack
05-30-2017, 11:51 PM
They would not be seen as swarthy where I live.

They look on the same range of the average Euro descended persons here.

Their facial traits are totally foreign though. One thing people doesn't understand is that being West Asian doesn't make a person darker in colouring than some Euros. The facial traits are the main difference.

Ylla
05-31-2017, 09:39 AM
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=56069&d=1427055968

Slayerid example looks like Not a Cop :)))

barkoo
05-31-2017, 10:19 AM
They would not be seen as swarthy where I live.

They look on the same range of the average Euro descended persons here.

Their facial traits are totally foreign though. One thing people doesn't understand is that being West Asian doesn't make a person darker in colouring than some Euros. The facial traits are the main difference.

This is why skin coloring is non-sense predominantly.

SardiniaAtlantis
05-31-2017, 10:28 AM
Some of these just look like badly light pictures.

Percivalle
05-31-2017, 12:04 PM
Not swarthy. I don't get how Georgians can look like that yet be genetically pretty much near eastern/ middle eastern.

Georgians aren't genetically near eastern/middle eastern.