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Heather Duval
06-08-2017, 03:18 PM
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/16/article-1056674-029E0A9400000578-413_233x393.jpg

Her sister is Britney Spears's grandmother:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09/16/article-0-029E0AA400000578-477_224x423_popup.jpg

Their father was a Maltese immigrant to the United Kingdom, it makes that old lady half Maltese half English

Heather Duval
06-08-2017, 03:22 PM
I dont think she looks off England
https://media0.giphy.com/media/u8xPky5BzPFBK/giphy.gif

Heather Duval
06-08-2017, 03:33 PM
http://i.imgur.com/BNuf1vb.png

Heather Duval
06-08-2017, 09:39 PM
bump

Odin
06-08-2017, 11:49 PM
Nope.

Heather Duval
06-08-2017, 11:51 PM
Nope.

I doubt her father was ethnically Maltese, maybe a really light Sicilian.

Odin
06-08-2017, 11:53 PM
I doubt her father was ethnically Maltese, maybe a really light Sicilian.

What's the difference?

JMack
06-08-2017, 11:56 PM
Looks English.

But could be Maltese as well. A minority of them can have this phenotype.

Heather Duval
06-08-2017, 11:57 PM
What's the difference?

Maltese people are descent of Sicilians, and many of them are dark Sicilians.

Odin
06-09-2017, 12:01 AM
Maltese people are descent of Sicilians, and many of them are dark Sicilians.

Edwige Fenech is Maltese and she is white as snow. :033102to:

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 12:03 AM
Edwige Fenech is Maltese and she is white as snow. :033102to:

Edwige Fenech looks med

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 12:04 AM
Edwige has light skin but her traits are med, probably Gracile med ou shits like that
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/dc/38/a6/dc38a65971be2d666c852990d8a5ac39.jpg

Odin
06-09-2017, 12:07 AM
Edwige Fenech looks med

But not swarthy.

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 12:09 AM
But not swarthy.

Yeah. Surprisely that old Lady dont look neither.

Odin
06-09-2017, 12:15 AM
Yeah. Surprisely that old Lady dont look neither.

Heck, I don't mind doing a Med if she looks like Fenech. :lol:

Oddone
06-09-2017, 01:19 AM
Maltese people are descent of Sicilians, and many of them are dark Sicilians.

The Maltese Prime Minister

http://assets.tvm.com.mt/mt/wp-content/uploads/sites/1/2013/03/MUSCAT-JOSEPH-W.jpg

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 01:31 AM
Edwige Fenech is Maltese and she is white as snow. :033102to:

She is half Maltese and half Sicilian, not that there is any real difference between the two since one descends directly from the other. Maltese might be slightly more North African but that's about it.

Anyway I don't think Britney Spears' grandmother looks uniquely Maltese nor Sicilian (She looks very British), but her own father could pass in the UK as a native himself. His surname is from Sicily though (Portelli) and is found along the southeastern coast from Ragusa to Gela.

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/P/PORTELLI.gif

Odin
06-09-2017, 01:34 AM
She is half Maltese and half Sicilian, not that there is any real difference between the two since one descends directly from the other. Maltese might be slightly more North African but that's about it.

I don't see any NA influence on Fenech though.

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 01:34 AM
I don't see any NA influence on Fenech though.

I don't mean her personally, I mean that whatever difference exists between Malta and Sicily is just a small amount more North African in Maltese. Maltese are probably closest to the people on Pantelleria which at one point spoke another Siculo-Arabic dialect that developed independently from the one on Malta, but it may now be extinct.

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 01:40 AM
She is half Maltese and half Sicilian, not that there is any real difference between the two since one descends directly from the other. Maltese might be slightly more North African but that's about it.

Anyway I don't think Britney Spears' grandmother looks uniquely Maltese nor Sicilian (She looks very British), but her own father could pass in the UK as a native himself. His surname is from Sicily though (Portelli) and is found along the southeastern coast from Ragusa to Gela.

http://www.gens.info/lib/cog/maps/cognomi/P/PORTELLI.gif

Brit's grandmother and her sister in the OP dont look half Maltese but they are. But Britney's mother looks a bit southern euro it looks its her father's fault, let alone Maltese

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 01:43 AM
Britney's maternal grandfather has British and French ancestry and he looked darker than his half Maltese wife

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 01:53 AM
About her pure Maltese part fit in UK, its something that I really doubt
First I started he might be very light Sicilian looking but NOW I remember about Britney's mother saying on her book that Portelli was very med looking and her grandmother was in love with him
Check on google for her book lol

Sikeliot
06-09-2017, 01:57 AM
About her pure Maltese part fit in UK, its something that I really doubt
First I started he might be very light Sicilian looking but NOW I remember about Britney's mother saying on her book that Portelli was very med looking and her grandmother was in love with him
Check on google for her book lol

Maltese are Sicilian, like 90%+. Their ancestors come from there. You can even find light British looking people sporadically in Sicily and Malta.

Heather Duval
06-09-2017, 02:09 AM
Maltese are Sicilian, like 90%+. Their ancestors come from there. You can even find light British looking people sporadically in Sicily and Malta.

I found Britney mothers book and her quote
" Mama was lovely, with her father's dark Maltese coloring, and she just sparkled with fun."