If 4% of white Americans have at least 1% Sub-Saharan African ancestry,

[Sikeliot]

then why, apart from white Latino Americans on this forum and all anthrofora I have been on, are myself and/or my mother the only ones who score this?

Though I suppose we do not count because our enslaved ancestors were not from the US, but still. Where are these supposedly mixed white Americans?

[Not a Cop]

Too afraid to post their results?

[Friends of Oliver Society]

then why, apart from white Latino Americans on this forum and all anthrofora I have been on, are myself and/or my mother the only ones who score this?

Though I suppose we do not count because our enslaved ancestors were not from the US, but still. Where are these supposedly mixed white Americans?

Supposedly it shows up in Whites from South Carolina, Virginia, and Louisiana.

[Snchpnz]

Here's one. (http://hotair.com/archives/2016/12/08/so-this-was-the-week-i-found-out-i-was-black/) He's a right wing writer. He doesn't break down his percentages in the article though.

[Lucas]

then why, apart from white Latino Americans on this forum and all anthrofora I have been on, are myself and/or my mother the only ones who score this?

Though I suppose we do not count because our enslaved ancestors were not from the US, but still. Where are these supposedly mixed white Americans?

You talk about SSA % in Gedmatch calculators for example? I don't think it's reliable. Many Central and East Euros including me, show some noisy % of it. Considering our lack of colonies in the past it's unlikely it represent true admixture. Rather it's sth which calcs can't estimate.

[Oneeye]

4% is very low. 1 in 25...

[Argentano]

You talk about SSA % in Gedmatch calculators for example? I don't think it's reliable. Many Central and East Euros including me, show some noisy % of it. Considering our lack of colonies in the past it's unlikely it represent true admixture. Rather it's sth which calcs can't estimate.

There is a 23andme genetic study with that result

[Argentano]

4% is low plus some of them may not post their results in this sites

[Peterski]

You talk about SSA % in Gedmatch calculators for example? I don't think it's reliable. Many Central and East Euros including me, show some noisy % of it. Considering our lack of colonies in the past it's unlikely it represent true admixture. Rather it's sth which calcs can't estimate.

What about San Escobar?: :confused:

http://i.imgur.com/yqxKlRG.jpg

https://www.deon.pl/gfx/deon/pl/defaultaktualnosci/69/952/1/d2107446570.png

https://czwartorzed.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/ed2e29d2abb46c95d4f5b3d2935f8812.jpg

http://i.iplsc.com/ucharakteryzowany-prawdopodobnie-pasta-do-butow-polski-zolni/0004ZE8DTUVSCDVB-C122-F4.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R20yvVX4zVk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwlynMkUXvA

[TrueIndepence]

Because unlike Blacks who have proven to be a very stupid people so far, Whites do not take any pride in having the blood of other races.

[Sikeliot]

Because unlike Blacks who have proven to be a very stupid people so far, Whites do not take any pride in having the blood of other races.

I am proud of it!

[TrueIndepence]

I am proud of it!

You are the exception of an exception.

[Lucas]

What about San Escobar?: :confused:

]
San Escobar is not in fashion. Short lived Internet phenomenon. Sorry...

BTW you also have it on some calculators:)

Forgot Polish soldiers on Haiti from Napoleonic Wars and their descendants.

https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/shrinknp_800_800/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAcFAAAAJDZiNzg5Y2RlLTY4ODctNDg1Mi05ZD Q0LTM2Y2VhNGUwNjQyNQ.jpg

http://blog.swiatoslaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/IMG_2501.jpg

http://cdn.natemat.pl/063cbb7a1661f18fadbb974b58eea995,640,0,0,0.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Supposedly it shows up in Whites from South Carolina, Virginia, and Louisiana.

Because never had any Anti-miscegenation laws in Louisiana:
In 1685, the French government issued a special Code Noir restricted to Louisiana, which banned the marriage of Catholics and non-Catholics in that colony.[10] However, interracial cohabitation and interracial sex were never prohibited in French Louisiana (see plaçage). The situation of the children (free or slave) followed the situation of the mother.[11] Under Spanish rule, interracial marriage was possible with parental consent under the age of 25 and without it when the partners were older. In 1806, three years after the U.S. gained control over the state, interracial marriage was once again banned

[Heather Duval]

I am proud of it!

Is TrueIndepence a troll or the new Fincher?

[Peterski]

BTW you also have it on some calculators:)

But I'm jealous that I don't get 0,05% Somali in K36 nMonte. ;)

[Carlito's Way]

they do exist, and majority of them are found in the south, ive seen their results before

[Voskos]

native indian ancestry is much more prevalent than SSA. could be due to the segregation and the stigma of marrying a black.

[StonyArabia]

It really depends on the region. It seems White Southerners often have more African admixture than White Americans from other parts of the country. On 23andme I share with a White woman from Alabama she is blond and blue eyed but she has 2% SSA admixture. I have seen a White American who scored 3% SSA. Some people still have the stigma about it due to the racial climate and history in the U.S.

[Smitty]

Let's also not confuse people who have known SSA heritage, yet call themselves white (like Sikeliot) with those who don't. I think most people who score these sizable percentages know they're part black; they just don't identify with it. That's not quite the same as people discovering SSA genes out of the blue

[Heather Duval]

Let's also not confuse people who have known SSA heritage, yet call themselves white (like Sikeliot) with those who don't. I think most people who score these sizable percentages know they're part black; they just don't identify with it. That's not quite the same as people discovering SSA genes out of the blue

Nigga, that means nothing. Even in Brazil you can found people who looks clearly mixed but didnt even know about their black or indigenous heritage.
This Brazilian which is clearly tri racial was questioned about her ancestry and she said: I only know my grandpa was really dark and from Bahia.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce_riD9XEAAoHxZ.jpg
She knows shit about what she is.

[Smitty]

Nigga, that means nothing. Even in Brazil you can found people who looks clearly mixed but didnt even know about their black or indigenous heritage.
This Brazilian which is clearly tri racial was questioned about her ancestry and she said: I only know my grandpa was really dark and from Bahia.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ce_riD9XEAAoHxZ.jpg
She knows shit about what she is.

That's more a testament to Brazilian miscegenation, racism, and the concomitant racial confusion than anything relevant to my post.

[Heather Duval]

That's more a testament to Brazilian miscegenation, racism, and the concomitant racial confusion than anything relevant to my post.

And you can even see white Americans that found out recently to be part something.

Taylor Swift’s dad reveals the American singer has Scottish heritage

THOUSANDS of Taylor Swift fans went home last night with a feeling so good they’ll never want to Shake It Off – after watching the American superstar rock Glasgow.

The singer, who is dating Dumfries-born superstar DJ Calvin Harris, told the Hydro crowd: “I happen to love Scottish people.”

But Swifty also revealed her dad had sent her an email telling her that most of her family were Scottish.
http://www.scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/taylor-swift-has-scottish-heritage--5938364
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Being part black could also happen.

[Cristiano viejo]

then why, apart from white Latino Americans on this forum and all anthrofora I have been on, are myself and/or my mother the only ones who score this?

Though I suppose we do not count because our enslaved ancestors were not from the US, but still. Where are these supposedly mixed white Americans?

Beowulf scored 2% SSA and he is very blonde, blue eyed and super typical Anglo-American guy (from Virginia exactly)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?1739-Could-I-be-classified

[Smitty]

Beowulf scored 2% SSA and he is very blonde, blue eyed and super typical Anglo-American guy (from Virginia exactly)
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?1739-Could-I-be-classified

This is the second time I've had to correct you. Beowulf scored 0.2% SSA. Decimals matter.

EDIT: Or commas, as the case may be.

[Smitty]

And you can even see white Americans that found out recently to be part something.

Taylor Swift’s dad reveals the American singer has Scottish heritage

THOUSANDS of Taylor Swift fans went home last night with a feeling so good they’ll never want to Shake It Off – after watching the American superstar rock Glasgow.

The singer, who is dating Dumfries-born superstar DJ Calvin Harris, told the Hydro crowd: “I happen to love Scottish people.”

But Swifty also revealed her dad had sent her an email telling her that most of her family were Scottish.
http://www.scotlandnow.dailyrecord.co.uk/lifestyle/taylor-swift-has-scottish-heritage--5938364
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Being part black could also happen.

Of course, it could. And I'm sure it does. My only point is that these 23andme averages are based on self-identification. Someone who scores 10% SSA knows, in all likelihood, that they have a black great-grandparent. They may identify as white, but that's not the same as a true white person just happening upon that much SSA when they take a DNA test.

[Leto]

Let's also not confuse people who have known SSA heritage, yet call themselves white (like Sikeliot) with those who don't. I think most people who score these sizable percentages know they're part black; they just don't identify with it. That's not quite the same as people discovering SSA genes out of the blue
Sikeliot's supposed 'blackness' is literally a joke. I'm at least 2 times more Siberian than he is African. He's not even 1/16 SSA.

[Smitty]

Sikeliot's supposed 'blackness' is literally a joke. I'm at least 2 times more Siberian than he is African. He's not even 1/16 SSA.

He's only around 1%, right? He's not the best example, agreed.

[Cristiano viejo]

This is the second time I've had to correct you. Beowulf scored 0.2% SSA. Decimals matter.

EDIT: Or commas, as the case may be.

Humm, perhaps you are right :blink:

[de Burgh II]

1% of African dna is insignificant/too weak to make an impact on one's dna. As generations go on; it will simply become further diluted/not quantifiable through the progression of time.

[Leto]

He's only around 1%, right? He's not the best example, agreed.
I'm not him, he should know better, but as far as I remember, he was around 3% or so. I might be wrong, though. Anyway, 2-3% SSA is too small an admixture to be taken seriously. Even 10-15% is usually invisible. 1/8 (great-grandparent) is 12%. For example, the alt-right activist James Allsup is 1/8 Southeast Asian and 7/8 Anglo-Saxon.
http://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/James-Allsup-800x458.jpg

[Sikeliot]

He's only around 1%, right? He's not the best example, agreed.


Sikeliot's supposed 'blackness' is literally a joke. I'm at least 2 times more Siberian than he is African. He's not even 1/16 SSA.

1/64. I have an octoroon (1/8 African) great grandmother. This is the typical amount of SSA amongst white Americans who come to find out they have it. It is not the amount that is significant, it is that I have a great-grandparent with visible and verified admixture.

I.e. my mother is 3% SSA, my grandmother 6%, great grandmother 12% etc.

[Leto]

1/64. I have an octoroon (1/8 African) great grandmother. This is the typical amount of SSA amongst white Americans who come to find out they have it. It is not the amount that is significant, it is that I have a great-grandparent with visible and verified admixture.

I.e. my mother is 3% SSA, my grandmother 6%, great grandmother 12% etc.
1-2% is normal for Sicily, Portugal, Andalucia, etc.

[Antimage]

I'm not him, he should know better, but as far as I remember, he was around 3% or so. I might be wrong, though. Anyway, 2-3% SSA is too small an admixture to be taken seriously. Even 10-15% is usually invisible. 1/8 (great-grandparent) is 12%. For example, the alt-right activist James Allsup is 1/8 Southeast Asian and 7/8 Anglo-Saxon.
http://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/James-Allsup-800x458.jpg

10-15% absolutely shows, especially if it's ssa.

[Cristiano viejo]

1-2% is normal for Sicily, Portugal, Andalucia, etc.

1-2% SSA for Andalusia? no way.

[Heather Duval]

1-2% is normal for Sicily, Portugal, Andalucia, etc.

lol it doesnt mean sicilians can trace their black ancestry like sikeliot do

[Sikeliot]

1-2% is normal for Sicily, Portugal, Andalucia, etc.

The difference is that it is not traceable to a mixed relative. In my case it is because it was someone from a colony, not from Southern Europe.

[Leto]

10-15% absolutely shows, especially if it's ssa.
Not at all. Perhaps sometimes, but oftentimes not really. 25% West African, 25% French, 50% White British
https://img3.closermag.fr/var/closermag/storage/images/7/3/9/739141/5738535-1/Jenaye-Noah-au-defile-de-mode-Mugler-collection-pret-a-porter-Automne-Hiver-2017-2018-au-palais-d_exact1024x768_p.jpg

[Leto]

1-2% SSA for Andalusia? no way.
I didn't say all have. I mean it would not be so unusual in those places. Some have, others don't.

[Sikeliot]

Not at all. Perhaps sometimes, but oftentimes not really. 25% West African, 25% French, 50% White British
https://img3.closermag.fr/var/closermag/storage/images/7/3/9/739141/5738535-1/Jenaye-Noah-au-defile-de-mode-Mugler-collection-pret-a-porter-Automne-Hiver-2017-2018-au-palais-d_exact1024x768_p.jpg


It shows in her eyes.

[Leto]

It shows in her eyes.
Yes, I agree, but she's 25% SSA. 12% would be a different thing. Anyway, she would pass as white on the street.

[Sikeliot]

Yes, I agree, but she's 25% SSA. 12% would be a different thing. Anyway, she would pass as white on the street.

She can pass if you don't know, but if you know, you can clearly see it. What is the origin of her SSA?

[Bobby Martnen]

It shows in her eyes.

Yeah, and to me I see it in the nose too. Complexion looks typical for a quadroon.

[Bobby Martnen]

She can pass if you don't know, but if you know, you can clearly see it. What is the origin of her SSA?

Cameroon. Here's her grandfather (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacharie_Noah), father (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Noah), and half-brother (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joakim_Noah)

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/noah/1500000000775966/0-665-0-70/8fd63.jpg

[Leto]

She can pass if you don't know, but if you know, you can clearly see it. What is the origin of her SSA?
Bobby is correct.

[Leto]

Yeah, and to me I see it in the nose too. Complexion looks typical for a quadroon.
Guys, this is her British mother, 100% white
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/02/16/36CE248300000578-3719528-_Odd_ball_killer_Edward_Tenniswood_claimed_he_had_ a_relationship-m-134_1470152159324.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/08/02/16/36CE245C00000578-3719632-image-m-115_1470151915979.jpg

[Sikeliot]

Cameroon. Here's her grandfather (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zacharie_Noah), father (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yannick_Noah), and half-brother (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joakim_Noah)

https://medias.lequipe.fr/img-photo-jpg/noah/1500000000775966/0-665-0-70/8fd63.jpg

I see the SSA in her.

[Bobby Martnen]

I see the SSA in her.

Do you see the Eskimo in him?

https://static.seattletimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/03142016-Todd-Palin_3-780x519.jpg

[Leto]

Do you see the Eskimo in him?
Not at all.

[Leto]

1/8 Asian or Amerindian is usually not noticeable if it's recent (one Asian/Amerindian great-grandparent), but it may be visible if the mix is multigenerational. For example some Russians do show Asian influence, though I doubt they are more than 10-15% autosomally. My mother is around 9% on some calcs, yet she looks Gorid/Baltid (classification of TA).

[Morena]

They exist but they don't post it. I know they exist because I ghost on some WN sites, and some posters complained about companies...I mean... ehem (((companies))) adding admixture to give the illusion of everyone being one race and all of that.

That level of delusion would not exist if some WN weren't getting trace amounts of things

[Bobby Martnen]

Not at all.

I see it a little bit in his cheeks/eye region. He's mostly White looking though

[Antimage]

Not at all. Perhaps sometimes, but oftentimes not really. 25% West African, 25% French, 50% White British
https://img3.closermag.fr/var/closermag/storage/images/7/3/9/739141/5738535-1/Jenaye-Noah-au-defile-de-mode-Mugler-collection-pret-a-porter-Automne-Hiver-2017-2018-au-palais-d_exact1024x768_p.jpg

Cherrypicked. Avarage quadroon is visiblly part black, so is the avarage octoroon too

[Leto]

Cherrypicked. Avarage quadroon is visiblly part black, so is the avarage octoroon too
I disagree. And mostly like, you won't be able to prove it.

[Leto]

I see it a little bit in his cheeks/eye region. He's mostly White looking though
C'mon, there's a lot of whites like him. Northern Europeans.

[Antimage]

I disagree. And mostly like, you won't be able to prove it.

Can you prove the opposite? Cherrypicking someone who ended up white passing by chance is not a proof.

[Leto]

Can you prove the opposite? Cherrypicking someone who ended up white passing by chance is not a proof.
Unfortunately, I don't possess an extensive collection of photos of octoroons. But I guess no one thinks about them because they don't look any different from full whites.

Dean Cain's son is 1/8 Japanese, the rest is British, Spanish and French. Anyway, 12% East Asian is kind of close to Northern Russians and Finns.
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/J0H3NJ/los-angeles-usa-12th-apr-2017-actor-dean-cain-son-christopher-dean-J0H3NJ.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/dean-cain-and-his-son-christopher-attend-the-premiere-of-the-promise-picture-id667881100

[Antimage]

Unfortunately, I don't possess an extensive collection of photos of octoroons. But I guess no one thinks about them because they don't look any different from full whites.

Dean Cain's son is 1/8 Japanese, the rest is British, Spanish and French. Anyway, 12% East Asian is kind of close to Northern Russians and Finns.
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/J0H3NJ/los-angeles-usa-12th-apr-2017-actor-dean-cain-son-christopher-dean-J0H3NJ.jpg
There are white looking octoroons and there are also octoroons who show signs of admixture, so the avarage octoroon will be visibly admixed. I'm talking about avarage, I don't understand what's the point of cherrypicking. It's very logical if it shows, your appearance is determined by all of your ancestry not just 90% of it.

[Crusader]

as far I know white Americans has come from Europe

[Leto]

I don't understand what's the point of cherrypicking. It's very logical if it shows, your appearance is determined by all of your ancestry not just 90% of it.
I don't cherrypick, I simply doubt that 1/8 is seriosuly noticeable.
It's very illogical to disregard 90% of a person's ancestry and focus on the remaining 10%. I detest extreme purity-spiralling. Dean Cain's son is over 85% European, so obviously he's a white American. No Japanese would accept him as a co-ethnic.

[Senpai]

K13:
Sub-Saharan 1.11

My mothers family is from Kentucky and North Carolina, so I'm assuming somebody crept in there.

[Cristiano viejo]

Unfortunately, I don't possess an extensive collection of photos of octoroons. But I guess no one thinks about them because they don't look any different from full whites.

Dean Cain's son is 1/8 Japanese, the rest is British, Spanish and French. Anyway, 12% East Asian is kind of close to Northern Russians and Finns.
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/J0H3NJ/los-angeles-usa-12th-apr-2017-actor-dean-cain-son-christopher-dean-J0H3NJ.jpg
http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/dean-cain-and-his-son-christopher-attend-the-premiere-of-the-promise-picture-id667881100

Dean Cain son is 50% Spanish, his mother is Samatha Torres, a ex-Playboy girl from Baleares.

[de Burgh II]

We wuz kangz n' shiettttt... Lmao! :p

https://img.fireden.net/v/image/1450/94/1450946344850.gif


https://motherboard-images.vice.com/content-images/contentimage/27766/1447453730482516.gif

[Leto]

Dean Cain son is 50% Spanish, his mother is Samatha Torres, a ex-Playboy girl from Baleares.
She is half-Spanish, half-British.

[Cristiano viejo]

She is half-Spanish, half-British.

Ah, no idea. I even did not know who she was before I read you about the Cain son being part Spanish. I investigated and read exactly this


Tuvo un hijo con su ex novia, la modelo y ex-chica playboy Samantha Torres, llamado Christopher Cain. Samantha Torres es española, nacida en Ibiza (Islas Baleares).

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Cain

According that, textually, she is Spanish, born in Balearic Islands.

[justpassing]

Not at all. Perhaps sometimes, but oftentimes not really. 25% West African, 25% French, 50% White British
https://img3.closermag.fr/var/closermag/storage/images/7/3/9/739141/5738535-1/Jenaye-Noah-au-defile-de-mode-Mugler-collection-pret-a-porter-Automne-Hiver-2017-2018-au-palais-d_exact1024x768_p.jpg

She's sooo pretty! However she doesn't look european. These aren't caucasoid facial features. I think her own mom was half-british anyway. (However she's almost as pretty as her mom.)
How can you tell? Simple, see the shape of her eyes ? nose bridge? brow-ridge , forehead ?... Now you may say that i'm being autistic but i'm being dead serious. I've seen semitic/arabic girls who look more european to be honest. Heck, even the very dark American/bresilan actress Jordana Brewster (who's skin is darker than that girl), or Maria Izabel Goulart (also darker) both have more european features than that girl.
https://i.imgur.com/ctzhCVN.jpg

[justpassing]

I'm not him, he should know better, but as far as I remember, he was around 3% or so. I might be wrong, though. Anyway, 2-3% SSA is too small an admixture to be taken seriously. Even 10-15% is usually invisible. 1/8 (great-grandparent) is 12%. For example, the alt-right activist James Allsup is 1/8 Southeast Asian and 7/8 Anglo-Saxon.
http://files.rightwingwatch.org/uploads/James-Allsup-800x458.jpg


Again, not trolling, i swear...And i guess this guy probably passes as "white" (whatever that means), yes he has very pale skin color, and at first glimpse he looks more on the european than asian side but come on !!
Maybe it's because i'm european, i don't know. I don't think most american whites look like this guy, i've seen plenty of white americans who actually look like genuine europeans. But again.. Here's a comparison.
With my european eyes, these are the features that tells me something's off. (nose bridge, brow-ridge, shape of eyes, oval of face.
https://i.imgur.com/WZCAzDr.jpg

[Carlito's Way]

She's sooo pretty! However she doesn't look european. These aren't caucasoid facial features. I think her own mom was half-british anyway. (However she's almost as pretty as her mom.)
How can you tell? Simple, see the shape of her eyes ? nose bridge? brow-ridge , forehead ?... Now you may say that i'm being autistic but i'm being dead serious. I've seen semitic/arabic girls who look more european to be honest. Heck, even the very dark American/bresilan actress Jordana Brewster (who's skin is darker than that girl), or Maria Izabel Goulart (also darker) both have more european features than that girl.
https://i.imgur.com/ctzhCVN.jpg

I think you are trying way too hard, no one in their right mind think Jenaye Noah is part black, she has an ambiguous phenotype
also I can find you plenty of white euro models who looks very pseudo negroid admixed

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/1/23/64/91/@/3288226-la-fille-de-yannick-noah-jenaye-noah-b-950x0-3.jpg
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/luxury/2017/05/23/Jenaye-Noah-in-de-Grisogono-High-Jewellery-Earrings-Cannes-Red-Carpet-22nd-May-2017-1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqImq0gSBkzcH_-jHFXstKOL9t1Pg2VDixv7okYcOWKLU.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLlJ8p30-c


yet im sure youll classify Dutch model Rianne ten Haken as fully Euro looking LOL on her classification thread on here she was classified europoid, that bitch looks like a damn quadroon and much more than the true quadroon of Jenaye
more photos of this pseudo quadroon hoe and trust me, many germans have that same as phenotype that id mistake easily for quadroons when I was in Germany, same thing in the netherlands, in the northern region
https://www.instagram.com/riannetenhaken/?hl=en
http://d85625a2bb9c61a4bb27-ec0cac0164f2f35a3ef7aa92ceaecd64.r76.cf3.rackcdn.c om/1843_35859027-49cd-43b4-8765-c926b5584378.jpg
https://i.mdel.net/i/db/2013/10/197761/197761-500w.jpg

[StonyArabia]

This White guy scores 2% SSA, he is pretty White lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1r4Cvi1K4E

This White woman is 2% SSA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2HHCmVGifk

This White woman 2.5% SSA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isWB-w4oGBk

[Kamal900]

This White guy scores 2% SSA, he is pretty White lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1r4Cvi1K4E

This White woman is 2% SSA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2HHCmVGifk

This White woman 2.5% SSA


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isWB-w4oGBk

People who score around 5% or less SSA wouldn't affect their phenotype at all. I mean, me and you don't look SSA admixed at all and yet we're 4% east Afriican admixed.

[Bobby Martnen]

I am proud of it!

Sikeliot can you dance good?

[Bobby Martnen]

Not at all. Perhaps sometimes, but oftentimes not really. 25% West African, 25% French, 50% White British
https://img3.closermag.fr/var/closermag/storage/images/7/3/9/739141/5738535-1/Jenaye-Noah-au-defile-de-mode-Mugler-collection-pret-a-porter-Automne-Hiver-2017-2018-au-palais-d_exact1024x768_p.jpg

She's obviously mixed

[justpassing]

I think you are trying way too hard, no one in their right mind think Jenaye Noah is part black, she has an ambiguous phenotype
also I can find you plenty of white euro models who looks very pseudo negroid admixed

http://static1.purepeople.com/articles/1/23/64/91/@/3288226-la-fille-de-yannick-noah-jenaye-noah-b-950x0-3.jpg
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/luxury/2017/05/23/Jenaye-Noah-in-de-Grisogono-High-Jewellery-Earrings-Cannes-Red-Carpet-22nd-May-2017-1_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqImq0gSBkzcH_-jHFXstKOL9t1Pg2VDixv7okYcOWKLU.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MLlJ8p30-c


yet im sure youll classify Dutch model Rianne ten Haken as fully Euro looking LOL on her classification thread on here she was classified europoid, that bitch looks like a damn quadroon and much more than the true quadroon of Jenaye
more photos of this pseudo quadroon hoe and trust me, many germans have that same as phenotype that id mistake easily for quadroons when I was in Germany, same thing in the netherlands, in the northern region
https://www.instagram.com/riannetenhaken/?hl=en
http://d85625a2bb9c61a4bb27-ec0cac0164f2f35a3ef7aa92ceaecd64.r76.cf3.rackcdn.c om/1843_35859027-49cd-43b4-8765-c926b5584378.jpg
https://i.mdel.net/i/db/2013/10/197761/197761-500w.jpg


No i'm being serious. She doesn't look european at all.(pretty girl though) And as for the girl you posted (i haven't checked the thread yet so i don't know how others see her), she looks even less european to be honest. Neither of these girls look euro to me. I'm new around here. And i don't know how others classify people (what their criterias or references are). I mostly focus on morphology, facial features and less so on skin color (or hair and eye color). That's why i also don't see that "James Allsup" guy as european. To give you an idea where i'm coming from. here are additional faces that don't look european to me. (and my reasons why).
https://i.imgur.com/AnUnIs8.jpg

I don't think you even need a good eye to spot these differences quite frankly, it seems blatantly obvious . Keep in mind, i haven't checked these girls ethnic background, haven't seen their DNA tests or anything, i'm only sharing what the type of features i'd expect to see on a european face.

[Leto]

That's why i also don't see that "James Allsup" guy as european.

He is 7/8 Northwestern European genetically, that's what matters most. Everything else is autism and nitpicking. However, he doesn't hide that he is part Filipino, but says he's mostly white by ancestry. For the record, we Eastern Europeans usually don't look like ancient Greek statues either but so what?

[Leto]

For heaven's sake, of course a quarter West African girl is not fully European, it's not even a subject of debate. :picard1: However, she definitely looks more white than black.

[Leto]

Angelina Jolie is absolutely white. She is said to have a very distant Native American ancestor (like 200+ years ago), but the rest of her ancestry is Northwestern and Central European, from what I know. It's nonsense to call her "non-European".

[CertifiedCracker]

If I were to claim every single bit of blood from every single colonial escapade by ancestors took part in, Id be considered multiracial, which I'm not nor can I claim to be. Am I fully white? For all intents and purposes, yes. Id say 95% of my blood is Caucasian/Semitic in origin, though the distinction between the two groups is murky racially if we're being realistic.

So, why would I care to claim some slave ancestor from the 1700s when most of my ancestors were Europeans? I dont think anyone would argue Pushkin was black, realistically, nor do I think would anyone claim that white Afrikaners, who on average have a bit of Malay and indigenous ancestry, are anything but white. So, I dont get the fascination with minor bits of African DNA. Why should we care? Is it because there was some stigma back in the 1920s and now everyone's applying the racialism of the 1920s to now? Lets be realistic here. The one drop rule was idiotic and even Southern Democrat politicians spoke out against it when it was proposed. Back then, your ancestry was defined through the census records, which often cut off in the 1780s. So theres this 100+ year blank space that no one knows what the hell was going on, but we have a pretty damn good idea that a lot of interracial mixing took place between whites, blacks, and Indians.

[Leto]

If I were to claim every single bit of blood from every single colonial escapade by ancestors took part in, Id be considered multiracial, which I'm not nor can I claim to be. Am I fully white? For all intents and purposes, yes. Id say 95% of my blood is Caucasian/Semitic in origin, though the distinction between the two groups is murky racially if we're being realistic.
Semites? You seem to be 0% Jewish (and Ashkenazim are not even fully Levantine, maybe 50-60% or so).
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231808-CertifiedCracker-s-MyOrigins-Results

[CertifiedCracker]

Semites? You seem to be 0% Jewish (and Ashkenazim are not even fully Levantine, maybe 50-60% or so).
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231808-CertifiedCracker-s-MyOrigins-Results

That test was odd, too be honest. On every other test I've scored at least 5% West Asian and on another like 10% Ashkenazi. But since Jews are overwhelmingly European and the ancestry was farther back, Id say it could be accurate, but who knows? I scored 2% West Asian on that test.

[AK-47]

Semites? You seem to be 0% Jewish (and Ashkenazim are not even fully Levantine, maybe 50-60% or so).
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?231808-CertifiedCracker-s-MyOrigins-Results
On average we're likely hybridized.
We fall totally outside the Levant on an autosomal level, and are a genetic bridge between the Northern Levant and southern Europe.

[Leto]

That test was odd, too be honest. On every other test I've scored at least 5% West Asian and on another like 10% Ashkenazi. But since Jews are overwhelmingly European and the ancestry was farther back, Id say it could be accurate, but who knows? I scored 2% West Asian on that test.
What tests did you take besides FTDNA? I'm <2% West Middle East on FTDNA too, but that's definitely noise. Partially Jewish people score Ashkeanzi or Sephardi and not West Middle East.

European Jews are up to 50% European, yes.

[AK-47]

What tests did you take besides FTDNA? I'm <2% West Middle East on FTDNA too, but that's definitely noise. Partially Jewish people score Ashkeanzi or Sephardi and not West Middle East.

European Jews are up to 50% European, yes.
Up to?
That is likely our average score.
If that was on the high end of our spectrum, we would be much closer to Greek Cypriots on the autosomal level.

[justpassing]

He is 7/8 Northwestern European genetically, that's what matters most. Everything else is autism and nitpicking. However, he doesn't hide that he is part Filipino, but says he's mostly white by ancestry. For the record, we Eastern Europeans usually don't look like ancient Greek statues either but so what?

Call it autism and nitpicking all you want. And yes, i understand why he'd probably pass for "white" for most people. I get that. But i'm only sharing my views. The reason why i insist on the details is because i sincerely feel it's a damn shame that european features are progressively disappearing. Guys like Allsup is not how our ancestors used to look like. It just reminds me of the so called "native indians" that we see today in reservations. When i look at them, i mostly see people larping as native indians. Most seem to be racially mixed with white or latino or whatever. It seems that few of them actually look like actual natives. I've seen a few, but they're clearly not the majority.

It's not autism it's my identity. It's part of our identity. We don't look like that. My idea of a white american is (one that instantly comes to mind) this guy:
https://i.imgur.com/gFC4Brw.jpg

And again, i'm not making this a purity contest, haven't checked Woody's DNA tests and i wouldn't care if that guy was 5 or 15% asian or black or indian, arab..whatever. I just focus on facial features alone. Allsup doesn't look european to me. I see that guy has a hapa. Little different than a Keanu Reeves only with a whiter skin tone. Now, that aside, (and this is off topic), i really like that guy. overall pretty "red pilled".

I sometimes notice these types of features not just on hapas but people from Russia. Some Russians look full blown european. Others look hapa-ish. Sometimes it's hard to tell. Bot most of the time i can easily spot these differences.
And the same can be said for some Sicilians. a few days ago i posted my opinion on some Sicilian guy, anyway to cut things short, to me, that guy didn't look italian. More like a Tunisian or something. Some of them look like normal European. Others simply don't. I've noticed the same with people from Malta. Some look like typical europeans, others tend to look almost like Tunisians imo.

Same goes for people from Finland. Some have an asian thing about them, you can clearly see it in their features. Others look very european though.

[justpassing]

Angelina Jolie is absolutely white. She is said to have a very distant Native American ancestor (like 200+ years ago), but the rest of her ancestry is Northwestern and Central European, from what I know. It's nonsense to call her "non-European".

I have no idea about Jolie's racial background. And maybe she had too much facial surgery so it tricks my observations. But to me, regardless of what she is, she doesn't have full blown european facial features. Like i said, i don't check for these people's ethnic backgrounds or DNA tests or whatever. I just give my impression at first glimpse.

[CertifiedCracker]

What tests did you take besides FTDNA? I'm <2% West Middle East on FTDNA too, but that's definitely noise. Partially Jewish people score Ashkeanzi or Sephardi and not West Middle East.

European Jews are up to 50% European, yes.

My Jewish ancestors were from Morocco, so idk if thats why? Mystery to me, honestly. On some tests, Ive scored upwards of 20% West Asian or a significant portion Iberian/West Asian/North African.

[Leto]

Call it autism and nitpicking all you want. And yes, i understand why he'd probably pass for "white" for most people. I get that. But i'm only sharing my views. The reason why i insist on the details is because i sincerely feel it's a damn shame that european features are progressively disappearing. Guys like Allsup is not how our ancestors used to look like. It just reminds me of the so called "native indians" that we see today in reservations. When i look at them, i mostly see people larping as native indians. Most seem to be racially mixed with white or latino or whatever. It seems that few of them actually look like actual natives. I've seen a few, but they're clearly not the majority.

It's not autism it's my identity. It's part of our identity. We don't look like that. My idea of a white american is (one that instantly comes to mind) this guy:
https://i.imgur.com/gFC4Brw.jpg

And again, i'm not making this a purity contest, haven't checked Woody's DNA tests and i wouldn't care if that guy was 5 or 15% asian or black or indian, arab..whatever. I just focus on facial features alone. Allsup doesn't look european to me. I see that guy has a hapa. Little different than a Keanu Reeves only with a whiter skin tone. Now, that aside, (and this is off topic), i really like that guy. overall pretty "red pilled".

I sometimes notice these types of features not just on hapas but people from Russia. Some Russians look full blown european. Others look hapa-ish. Sometimes it's hard to tell. Bot most of the time i can easily spot these differences.
And the same can be said for some Sicilians. a few days ago i posted my opinion on some Sicilian guy, anyway to cut things short, to me, that guy didn't look italian. More like a Tunisian or something. Some of them look like normal European. Others simply don't. I've noticed the same with people from Malta. Some look like typical europeans, others tend to look almost like Tunisians imo.

Same goes for people from Finland. Some have an asian thing about them, you can clearly see it in their features. Others look very european though.
'European' is not only a certain look. It's also geography, genetics and culture. And even looks can be vastly different depending on the country. We don't live in the early 20th century when people judged only by physical appearance.

[justpassing]

'European' is not only a certain look. It's also geography, genetics and culture. And even looks can be vastly different depending on the country. We don't live in the early 20th century when people judged only by physical appearance.

That's just the way i see it. And i don't think i'm being harsh or too strict with my selections. If i wanted to be a genuine "autist", or a "purist", then i'd only label these types of features as genuine european. (i.e. Roman/ Hellenic ancient greek faces)

[Morena]

That's just the way i see it. And i don't think i'm being harsh or too strict with my selections. If i wanted to be a genuine "autist", or a "purist", then i'd only label these types of features as genuine european. (i.e. Roman/ Hellenic ancient greek faces)

features change. evolution doesn't freeze. there are parts of Europe where people don't look anything like the pics you post.


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