What could my haplogroups tell me about my genealogy?

[Noman]

Hey guys,

My Y-DNA is R2a and my mtDNA is U7. I am having difficult times finding my family tree. Could, in some way, my haplgroups predict something about my family tree?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Doesnt tell you anything unless you have Matches for your Y-STR markers.

[Noman]

Doesnt tell you anything unless you have Matches for your Y-STR markers.

How do I find matches for Y-STR markers?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

How do I find matches for Y-STR markers?

you need to test with a DNA testing company that does Haplogroup Testing for Y-STR markers. The most popular one for that is FTDNA. But theres a few others also I think. But less popular I think. Not sure though.

[Skjaldemjøden]

No, nothing whatsoever. Follow the paper trail if you wanna learn about your genealogy.

[Dick]

you need to test with a DNA testing company that does Haplogroup Testing for Y-STR markers. The most popular one for that is FTDNA. But theres a few others also I think. But less popular I think. Not sure though.

Big Y is even better test. SNPs are more accurate.

[Kelmendasi]

Your Ydna haplogroup is a common one in the sub-continent and is linked to the Indus valley civilization. Your Mtdna haplogroup is a Eurasian one and supposedly originated near the Black sea, it is believed that large scale migrations like the Indo-European migration brought this haplogroup to the sub-continent

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Big Y is even better test. SNPs are more accurate.
Not for geneology. Its for finding your haplogroup. I had big Y done but I had a near exact match on Y str. He was only a genetic distance of 2. So it means our last common ancestor was only hundreds of years ago or less. But with still high probability as low recent as 9 generations ago. And he didnt do the Y111 test he did the Y60 i think its called. I have Y111 done. He didnt do big Y but since his Y str markers was so close he was grouped in the same haplogroup as me.

[Dick]

Not for geneology. Its for finding your haplogroup. I had big Y done but I had a near exact match on Y str. He was only a genetic distance of 2. So it means our last common ancestor was only hundreds of years ago or less. But with still high probability as low recent as 9 generations ago. And he didnt do the Y111 test he did the Y60 i think its called. I have Y111 done. He didnt do big Y but since his Y str markers was so close he was grouped in the same haplogroup as me.

In that case, yes. So he did 67? How far back does 37 and 25 str markers go then?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

In that case, yes. So he did 67? How far back does 37 and 25 str markers go then?

?? I dont know the specifics. It just means overall they tested 67 markers vs 111. They just compare the markers. Some Y str markers mutate faster than other but they still mutate slow over hundreds of years. I only had like 1 or 2 str marker differences from his first Y-67 compared to the first 67 of mine.

[Dick]

?? I dont know the specifics. It just means overall they tested 67 markers vs 111. They just compare the markers. Some Y str markers mutate faster than other but they still mutate slow over hundreds of years. I only had like 1 or 2 str marker differences from his first Y-67 compared to the first 67 of mine.

Gotcha. It's good he did the 67 marker test then. So many men only do 12 or 25 markers.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Gotcha. It's good he did the 67 marker test then. So many men only do 12 or 25 markers.
Yea i know. So many kits haplogroups could be refined closer to kits who already have snps checked if the just did 67 or higher.

[Dick]

Yea i know. So many kits haplogroups could be refined closer to kits who already have snps checked if the just did 67 or higher.

Ftdna should make 67 markers mandatory.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Ftdna should make 67 markers mandatory.
Y str 35 might work also. He did y 35 originally and the admin told us he that he would be the same haplogroup. But Y 25 and Y 12 is too low in my opinion . He just told him to do Y67 to refine how. close our kits. Y 35 would probably do as well but I think at least 67 should be good. In my personal opinion its better to save and wait longer to just do the whole thing that way you know your data will be good because any less is really being incomplete.

[Noman]

you need to test with a DNA testing company that does Haplogroup Testing for Y-STR markers. The most popular one for that is FTDNA. But theres a few others also I think. But less popular I think. Not sure though.

Thank you!

It's expensive; however, I will still look over it.

[Noman]

No, nothing whatsoever. Follow the paper trail if you wanna learn about your genealogy.

I don't have my family tree. No one in my family has.

[Skjaldemjøden]

I don't have my family tree. No one in my family has.

Then make it..

[Noman]

Your Ydna haplogroup is a common one in the sub-continent and is linked to the Indus valley civilization. Your Mtdna haplogroup is a Eurasian one and supposedly originated near the Black sea, it is believed that large scale migrations like the Indo-European migration brought this haplogroup to the sub-continent

Would I be wrong, if I assume that my ancestors were from Indus Valley?

[Noman]

Then make it..

I can't go back more than Great grandfather.

[Skjaldemjøden]

I can't go back more than Great grandfather.

Why is that?

[Noman]

Why is that?

No one recorded that data, and I don't know why!

[Kelmendasi]

Would I be wrong, if I assume that my ancestors were from Indus Valley?
No you wouldn't be wrong but you would need to do further testing to see where your sub-clade is found in

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Thank you!

It's expensive; however, I will still look over it.
No problem

[Skjaldemjøden]

No one recorded that data, and I don't know why!

Surely there are some records? Have you tried with the Mormons' website? What about gravestones?

[Noman]

Surely there are some records? Have you tried with the Mormons' website? What about gravestones?

:) My fellow forumer, the place where I come from has no Mormons or gravestone records.

[Skjaldemjøden]

:) My fellow forumer, the place where I come from has no Mormons or gravestone records.

Can't you ask your grandparents or great-aunts/uncles?

[Noman]

Can't you ask your grandparents or great-aunts/uncles?

Grandparents are already passed out. No one knows!
Yeah, it sucks. I have to go back my country, and talk to the people living in our town. Maybe, they know something.

[Skjaldemjøden]

Grandparents are already passed out. No one knows!
Yeah, it sucks. I have to go back my country, and talk to the people living in our town. Maybe, they know something.

Don't wait too long. So you're Indian/Pakistani?