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RN97
06-13-2017, 03:04 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/12/man-jailed-for-minimum-of-19-years-for-brutal-killing-of-pensioner

Do criminals look different from the average person?

http://i.imgur.com/tYNOlQL.jpg

JMack
06-13-2017, 03:10 PM
Don't know, but they are certainly not pure Caucasoid.

Right one looks West Sibirid + Mediterranean and the left one Alpine + some small hints of Melanesid/Proto-Australoid.

XenophobicPrussian
06-13-2017, 03:37 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/12/man-jailed-for-minimum-of-19-years-for-brutal-killing-of-pensioner

Do criminals look different from the average person?

http://i.imgur.com/tYNOlQL.jpg
Definitely. There used to be a lot of stuff on how criminals looked different than the average population in the late 1800s/early 1900s. The Chinese today have a facial recognition system that predicts criminality well apperantly(89.5% accuracy)

https://img.rt.com/files/2017.05/original/5912f469c3618886258b456e.jpg
(top row criminals, bottom row non-criminals)

http://chineseaustralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Forgotten-Faces.jpg
(random old Chinese criminals, most do actually look like the top row)

Morphs of Merseyside, England(near Liverpool) criminals vs doctors, etc

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8105217/1/

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/28/21/3AD5C66B00000578-0-Philanthropist_or_fraud_One_picture_is_one_of_the_ first_criminal-a-12_1480368613433.jpg
(criminal face vs non-criminal from Leandro Minku, U of Leichester)

I think Alphonse Bertillon and Francis Galton are some of the people who did studies on this. All of this is considered pseudo-science today of course, but I doubt it's actually been debunked rather than disowned for other reasons.

Heather Duval
06-13-2017, 03:43 PM
Definitely. There used to be a lot of stuff on how criminals looked different than the average population in the late 1800s/early 1900s. The Chinese today have a facial recognition system that predicts criminality well apperantly(89.5% accuracy)

https://img.rt.com/files/2017.05/original/5912f469c3618886258b456e.jpg
(top row criminals, bottom row non-criminals)

http://chineseaustralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Forgotten-Faces.jpg
(random old Chinese criminals, most do actually look like the top row)

Morphs of Merseyside, England(near Liverpool) criminals vs doctors, etc

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8105217/1/

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/28/21/3AD5C66B00000578-0-Philanthropist_or_fraud_One_picture_is_one_of_the_ first_criminal-a-12_1480368613433.jpg
(criminal face vs non-criminal from Leandro Minku, U of Leichester)

I think Alphonse Bertillon and Francis Galton are some of the people who did studies on this. All of this is considered pseudo-science today of course, but I doubt it's actually been debunked rather than disowned for other reasons.

:lol:

♥ Lily ♥
06-13-2017, 03:48 PM
So doctors aren't capable of being criminals too? Very naive and ignorant assumption, for dangerous people lurk in all guises in society. (I've watched hundreds of documentaries about serial killers and crimes.)

What about that mass serial killer Doctor Harold Shipman? Look at the middle-class McCann's massive abuse of power after what they did, http://gerrymccan-abuseofpower-humanrights.blogspot.co.uk


Just google the police sheriff paedophile ring who raped Hollie Greig (a child with Down's Syndrome) in Scotland and the barristers and social services and elites in Scotland who allowed it to continue, while her mother was locked-up for reporting the abuse, and an English journalist who went to Scotland to protest (Robert Green) was jailed by the very fat cop who abused Hollie, and her uncle (a witness) was murdered. But her father and brother who abused Hollie Grieg walk around as free criminals after they were sent by Scottish authorities to live in Portugal. None of the cops involved were jailed.

Also google Casa Pia in Portugal and the international paedophile ring there consisting of doctors, diplomats, politicians, etc.

And what about all those elite criminal politicians who were involved in stealing UK taxmoney for their extravagant living expenses? They merely apologised to the public and weren't prosecuted. Not to mention causing illegal wars and being involved in elite paedophile circles. Most of the big drug profits starts at the top end of society and makes its way down onto the streets.

Ted Bundy was another psychopathic serial killer - very charming, middle-class, articulate and well-educated though. And how many children have been raped by nuns and priests?

The Royal Family come from an inbred bloodline of parasites, thieves, murderers and gangsters. The most famous serial killer Jack-the-Ripper was an educated surgeon and is believed to have been related to royalty.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/0c/6d/80/0c6d8038c1a6c28fdc68c29053f8f031.jpg

Middle-class Englishman Entwistle pretended that he worked for intelligence agencies and conned people... and he killed his American wife and shot their baby dead... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Rachel_and_Lillian_Entwistle


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxTLXZZALL4

RN97
06-13-2017, 03:51 PM
Definitely. There used to be a lot of stuff on how criminals looked different than the average population in the late 1800s/early 1900s. The Chinese today have a facial recognition system that predicts criminality well apperantly(89.5% accuracy)
.

It seems that criminals have less pronounced features and flatter faces. It probably depends on the criminal type. Serial killers actually seem to look normal and often even quite smart. Stupid criminals like those in OP def. seem to have flat faces and features that aren't pronounced. I think that probably a lot can be achieved by using facial recognition. Perhaps not if someone is a "criminal", but if someone has violent tendencies etc.
A Israeli firm claimed to be able to use facial analysis to identify pedos and terrorists.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3606811/Can-spot-terrorist-just-looking-face-Israeli-company-claims-predict-paedophiles-geniuses-ace-poker-players-analysing-features.html

Heather Duval
06-13-2017, 03:54 PM
Wanna change your phenotype? Become a criminal :lol:
Antroretards level 100%
Come on Paris Hilton
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2007/06/04/world/paris_mug.jpg

Journeyman26
06-13-2017, 03:58 PM
Mr. Burns: “Absolutely. Who could forget such a monstrous visage? She has the sloping brow and cranial bumpage of the career criminal.”
Smithers: “Uh, sir, phrenology was dismissed as quackery a hundred-sixty years ago.”
Mr. Burns: “Of course you’d say that, you have the brainpan of stage coach tilter.”

https://deadhomersociety.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/mothersimpson5.png

♥ Lily ♥
06-13-2017, 04:09 PM
Oh, and what about that former Job Centre manager and former London policeman Dennis Nilsen of Norwegian-Scottish descent, who was a necrophiliac and he murdered lots of men and he kept their bodies in his home. He'd take dead bodies out from underneath his floorboards to have sex with and to sit in the bath with him, etc.... he was a former cop!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Nilsen

And look at aristocratic Countess Elizabeth Bathory of Hungary (aka 'The Blood Countess') who sadistically tortured and brutally murdered over 600 peasant virgin girls in her castles and drank and bathed in their blood, etc, in a vain quest to preserve her youth.

She was the inspiration for many vampire movies and literature that was published, based on the real-life Blood Countess.

Also Masonic aristocrat Gilles de Rais raped and murdered loads of boys inside his castle home in France. Gilles de Rais was also of the noble class.

Sacrificed Ram
06-13-2017, 04:11 PM
Longbowman and Anglojew.

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-13-2017, 04:19 PM
Definitely. There used to be a lot of stuff on how criminals looked different than the average population in the late 1800s/early 1900s. The Chinese today have a facial recognition system that predicts criminality well apperantly(89.5% accuracy)

https://img.rt.com/files/2017.05/original/5912f469c3618886258b456e.jpg
(top row criminals, bottom row non-criminals)

http://chineseaustralia.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Forgotten-Faces.jpg
(random old Chinese criminals, most do actually look like the top row)

Morphs of Merseyside, England(near Liverpool) criminals vs doctors, etc

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/8105217/1/

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/11/28/21/3AD5C66B00000578-0-Philanthropist_or_fraud_One_picture_is_one_of_the_ first_criminal-a-12_1480368613433.jpg
(criminal face vs non-criminal from Leandro Minku, U of Leichester)

I think Alphonse Bertillon and Francis Galton are some of the people who did studies on this. All of this is considered pseudo-science today of course, but I doubt it's actually been debunked rather than disowned for other reasons.

Most of the criminals have stern look but not all

Heather Duval
06-13-2017, 04:21 PM
Most of the criminals have stern look but not all

how can I get a criminal look? it shows on 23andme results?

Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin
06-13-2017, 04:22 PM
how can I get a criminal look? it shows on 23andme results?
No the pictures.
I just noticed most have a stern look.

Heather Duval
06-13-2017, 04:24 PM
No the pictures.
I just noticed most have a stern look.

I really want this look
http://images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/140/photos/207000/158207.jpg

♥ Lily ♥
06-13-2017, 04:32 PM
People sometimes mock Australians as being the descendants of 'British rejects' and 'convicts' due to the thousands of British and Irish convicts who were placed on large ships and taken away from our island and dumped on the other side of the planet in Australia.

For over 70 years, the thousands of convicts who were taken to live in Australia to colonise the nation were forced to work for very long hours in the baking hot sun for the ruling elite.

Well most of those poor convicts who were sent to live in Australia were actually jailed for petty things... like stealing some bread, rather than dying from starvation.

The Aussies mock the British as Pomes (Prisoners Of Mother England) as the ruling elite are the biggest gangsters and criminals who exploited the poor.

We need more heros like Robin Hoods and his rebellious outlaws to take back what the mean rich ruling elite stole from the poor.

Very poor and exploited peasants were often malnourished... they lacked nutrients, vitamins and minerals, and lived in damp and squalid conditions. Their life expectancies were also shorter.

Very funny short cartoon below summing-up a brief history of Australia... Aussies are proud of their convict ancestors.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhY9PBceqYY

♥ Lily ♥
06-13-2017, 04:59 PM
English actress and singer Patsy Kensit's mother was a publicist.

Her father was a gangster and an associate of the notorious famous London gangsters the Kray twins who ruled over much of the streets and large bars and clubs in London.

Nicknamed "Jimmy the Dip", her father also worked for the Kray's rival gang - The Richardsons - who were one of the most notorious and violent gangsters in London, running long firms for the gang.

He served time in prison before Kensit was born; she believed he was an antiques dealer as a child.

Her paternal grandfather was a robber and counterfeiter.

She attended Newland House School, St Catherine's School, Twickenham and Corona Theatre School.

Elizabeth Hurley is the godmother of one of her children (Lennon) with the famous Oasis star Liam Gallagher.

For someone whose father and grandfather were working-class convicted criminals, Patsy has done very well for herself in life and has never committed any crimes - so you can't stereotype criminals in the same mould.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patsy_Kensit


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PYqUHfTMA

♥ Lily ♥
06-13-2017, 05:28 PM
Ruth Ellis (books and movies have been made about her) was the last female to be hanged and executed in the UK before Capital Punishment was removed, after she shot her lover in a Crime of Passion outside a pub in North London that still exists to this day. (Her lover beat her and she suffered from a miscarriage during one of his beatings.)

Protestors still want the government to issue an apology and a pardon for the death of Ruth Ellis.


Ellis came from a humble working-class background. She became a nightclub hostess through nude modelling work, which paid significantly more than the various factory and clerical jobs she had held since leaving school.

Morris Conley, the manager of the Court Club in Duke Street, where she worked, blackmailed his hostess employees into sleeping with him. Early in 1950 she became pregnant by one of her regular customers, having taken up prostitution. She had this pregnancy terminated (illegally) in the third month and returned to work as soon as she could.

On 8 November 1950, she married 41-year-old George Ellis, a divorced dentist with two sons, at the register office in Tonbridge, Kent. He had been a customer at the Court Club. He was a violent alcoholic, jealous and possessive, and the marriage deteriorated rapidly because he was convinced she was having an affair. Ruth left him several times but always returned.

In 1951, while four months pregnant, Ruth appeared, uncredited, as a beauty queen in the Rank film Lady Godiva Rides Again.


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/08/24/article-0-007604661000044C-709_306x792.jpg
http://murderpedia.org/female.E/images/ellis-ruth/ruth-ellis-with-morris-conley.jpg
http://cdn.images.dailystar.co.uk/dynamic/1/photos/994000/620x/56c0a75d1bf70_ellismagdala.jpg
http://www.bushywood.com/ministry_of_justice/police_pictures/Ruth_Ellis_Desmond_Cullen_Lovers_Murder_Plot.jpg
https://elvirabarney.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/ruth-ellis.jpg
http://murderpedia.org/female.E/images/ellis-ruth/ruth-ellis-book-2.jpg