Classify Megalithic Irish (is she Gracile Med?)

[Peterski]

Megalithic (3343–3020 BC) Northern Ireland, Ballynahatty, County Down:

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/europeanneolithicdna.shtml

Reconstruction (Gracile Med, right?):

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/ancient-genomes-ireland-sequenced-first-time-03539.html

http://cdn.sci-news.com/images/enlarge2/image_3539e-Ancient-Irish-Genomes.jpg

Her similarity to modern populations:

http://linearpopulationmodel.blogspot.com/2016/01/irish-ancient-dna-from-rathlin-island.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QTTKmZFyLZk/VotKL3mFgAI/AAAAAAAAB88/5ZC9bJ3Am1Q/s1600/Bally.PNG

Eurogenes K15 results (kit M427312):

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Med 43.2
2 Atlantic 32.67
3 North_Sea 8.68
4 East_Med 6.79
5 Red_Sea 3.22
6 Baltic 2.84
7 Northeast_African 1.36
8 Sub-Saharan 0.81
9 Southeast_Asian 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sardinian 14.46
2 Spanish_Andalucia 20.06
3 Spanish_Aragon 20.23
4 Spanish_Cantabria 20.49
5 Southwest_French 20.84
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 20.86
7 French_Basque 21.56
8 Spanish_Valencia 21.58
9 Spanish_Extremadura 22.8
10 Spanish_Murcia 23.18
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 23.36
12 Portuguese 23.64
13 Spanish_Cataluna 24.17
14 Spanish_Galicia 24.56
15 North_Italian 24.75
16 Tuscan 28.59
17 French 31.7
18 West_Sicilian 32.56
19 Greek 34.38
20 Italian_Abruzzo 34.65

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% Sardinian + 38.6% French_Basque @ 6.44
2 63% Sardinian + 37% Southwest_French @ 9.54
3 62.2% Sardinian + 37.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 9.58
4 62.8% Sardinian + 37.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 9.77
5 63.9% Sardinian + 36.1% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 10.12
6 65.7% Sardinian + 34.3% Spanish_Valencia @ 10.65
7 63.6% Sardinian + 36.4% Spanish_Andalucia @ 10.75
8 68.7% Sardinian + 31.3% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 10.99
9 70.2% Sardinian + 29.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 11.25
10 69.2% Sardinian + 30.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 11.31
11 68.9% Sardinian + 31.1% Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.37
12 82.1% Sardinian + 17.9% Irish @ 11.44
13 82.4% Sardinian + 17.6% West_Scottish @ 11.49
14 80.7% Sardinian + 19.3% Southwest_English @ 11.51
15 81.6% Sardinian + 18.4% Southeast_English @ 11.55
16 82.9% Sardinian + 17.1% Orcadian @ 11.62
17 70.7% Sardinian + 29.3% Portuguese @ 11.68
18 72.2% Sardinian + 27.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 11.86
19 83.6% Sardinian + 16.4% Danish @ 11.91
20 80.6% Sardinian + 19.4% South_Dutch @ 11.92

[Peterski]

Reconstruction (Gracile Med, right?):

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/ancient-genomes-ireland-sequenced-first-time-03539.html

http://cdn.sci-news.com/images/enlarge2/image_3539e-Ancient-Irish-Genomes.jpg

And skull: http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-35179269

https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/13AEA/production/_87381608_105942-1.jpg

[Dick]

I don't think she's gracile med, more on the UP side. Maybe thats why Irish are predominately dark haired due to the megalithics.

[GiCa]

I don't think she's gracile med, more on the UP side. Maybe thats why Irish are predominately dark haired due to the megalithics.

Her genetic says she s Sardinian.
So those who populated that inavsion was from more south.

Sardinians are the benchmark of g meds and Berids

[GiCa]

Also that map above is very curious helpfully to explain my look

Based on wich infos did they create that map?

[Coolguy1]

Probably gracile med

[Odin]

Yup.

[Ülev]

sorry, but all what I see is steppe mongoloid traits here

[Mens-Sarda]

Her profile and nose shape looks very familiar, I've seen many Sardinian women with those traits, expecially in the mountainous areas of northern and central Sardinia

[GiCa]

From that maps it seems that ancient sardinians pastors and sheep populated Tuscany and Liguria

[Freeroostah]

looks Alpine to me which is historically correct if you think that the megalithic builders of haplogroup G are associated with the Alpine expansion in Europe from Anatolia around 3500 BC

[Dick]

Her profile and nose shape looks very familiar, I've seen many Sardinian women with those traits, expecially in the mountainous areas of northern and central Sardinia

I concur. Skull Dosnt look gracile at all

[Peterski]

Based on wich infos did they create that map?

That map is from the study in which they discussed her DNA (see Fig. 3.):

http://www.pnas.org/content/113/2/368.full

[GiCa]

I concur. Skull Dosnt look gracile at all

Skull looks gracile and g med

[Mens-Sarda]

From that maps it seems that ancient sardinians pastors and sheep populated Tuscany and Liguria

Or perhaps the pre-IE peoples of western Europe, (those of the megalithic civilizations) were all related or they were the same people, and since Sardinia remained isolated from the main IE migrations this explains why a woman lived in ancient Ireland and the iceman (Oetzi) have a dna very close to actual Sardinians.

[Dick]

Skull looks gracile and g med

She looks like you.

[GiCa]

Or perhaps the pre-IE peoples of western Europe, (those of the megalithic civilizations) were all related or they were the same people, and since Sardinia remained isolated from the main IE migrations this explains why a woman lived in ancient Ireland and the iceman (Oetzi) have a dna very close to actual Sardinians.

Maybe

Anyway Celtic my ass

This is totally south Europe med type

Celts were dinaric ally oposite: more fairish an with more stocky and roundish faces

This is off topic if someone say that is true celt

[GiCa]

This will cause a heart attack to that Canadian-polish forum poster and Grab the gauge

Muahahah

Cheers from your Sardinian brothas
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/32/c8/a7/32c8a7cc02ae54984fb19d08bca2ab16.jpg

[Mens-Sarda]

Maybe

Anyway Celtic my ass

This is totally south Europe med type

Celts were dinaric ally oposite: more fairish an with more stocky and roundish faces

This is off topic if someone say that is true celt

She's surely pre-Celtic

[GiCa]

She's surely pre-Celtic

She sings with you in your language with Otzu.. Er Otzi .. What a Sardinian name for him


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aKwSOG1X2ac

[Percivalle]

Megalithic (3343–3020 BC) Northern Ireland, Ballynahatty, County Down:

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/europeanneolithicdna.shtml

Reconstruction (Gracile Med, right?):

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/anthropology/ancient-genomes-ireland-sequenced-first-time-03539.html

http://cdn.sci-news.com/images/enlarge2/image_3539e-Ancient-Irish-Genomes.jpg

Her similarity to modern populations:

http://linearpopulationmodel.blogspot.com/2016/01/irish-ancient-dna-from-rathlin-island.html

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QTTKmZFyLZk/VotKL3mFgAI/AAAAAAAAB88/5ZC9bJ3Am1Q/s1600/Bally.PNG


Nope, she isn't gracile med, she looks more like Oetzi, more Upper Paleolithic.


And this map corresponds more or less to the Ibero-Ligurians

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-QTTKmZFyLZk/VotKL3mFgAI/AAAAAAAAB88/5ZC9bJ3Am1Q/s1600/Bally.PNG

[Percivalle]

From that maps it seems that ancient sardinians pastors and sheep populated Tuscany and Liguria

It's the opposite, there was gene flow from Liguria/Tuscany to Sardinia/Corsica.

[GiCa]

It's the opposite, there was gene flow from Liguria/Tuscany to Sardinia/Corsica.

I think it s the contrary. Your sources?

[Percivalle]

I think it s the contrary. Your sources?

Any good archeology paper.

[Oneeye]

Neolithic genetics. Farmer's daughter AF.

[GiCa]

From that map it sea instead that Sardinian fishmen populated just the coasts above them: Tuscany and Liguria; indeed the more reddish is around piombino: the natural port for Sardinia

[GiCa]

I wonder thought if they really sampled Tuscans and ligurians or if it is instead just a geographic kms map of probable genes as they clearly sampled sardinians but it s not clear if us too

[GiCa]

Also that map could say that ligurians were a sub tribe of sardinians or vice versa

Looking at that map it seems they were the same people probably originating from the same migration wave that pupulate also the Iberia but unrelated since time as you see south franc is not a continuum

While it seems that instead Liguarians-Sardinians are te same people

[Percivalle]

From that map it sea instead that Sardinian fishmen populated just the coasts above them: Tuscany and Liguria; indeed the more reddish is around piombino: the natural port for Sardinia




I wonder thought if they really sampled Tuscans and ligurians or if it is instead just a geographic kms map of probable genes as they clearly sampled sardinians but it s not clear if us too



Also that map could say that ligurians were a sub tribe of sardinians or vice versa

Looking at that map it seems they were the same people probably originating from the same migration wave that pupulate also the Iberia but unrelated since time as you see south franc is not a continuum

While it seems that instead Liguarians-Sardinians are te same people

You don't understand how that map works.

Ballynahatty is a Neolithic woman, she lacks steppe admixture and she was likely some kind of western EEF but she wasn't exactly the same of a modern-day Sardinian. According to K15 she is 61.4% Sardinian + 38.6% French_Basque @ 6.44, or 80.6% Sardinian + 19.4% South_Dutch @ 11.92.

In any case among ancient Ligurians Ballynahatty represents only a component.

[Enflamme]

She looks more European than *******... which is a person certainly half Asian mixed with some Australoid and queernoid(double combo).

And about another thing : sad that the rage of Gica is felt, she would have liked to be Nordic, but she is not!

On the way: the berid type does not exist and has never existed.

You should reread Coon, instead of sucking black dicks and eat their black cum.

If it were me, I would deport you to Saudi Arabia, so that you can learn the respect, that you wear the veil and that you stop writing on the internet, because you are wasting time! You should make children instead!


PLEASSSSEEEEEEEEEEE TAKE MY HAND, COME BACK TO THE LAND, LET'S GET AWAY, JUST FOR ONE DAY...

[Ylla]

Med-Berid she looks quite robust I dont know where you got gracile med.

[Enflamme]

Med-Berid she looks quite robust I dont know where you got gracile med.

Berid doesn't exist, read Coon.

And stop sucking your muslim dick, fucking Albanian with 65 IQ.

[Ylla]

Berid doesn't exist, read Coon.

And stop sucking your muslim dick, fucking Albanian with 65 IQ.

Are you ok?

[Enflamme]

Are you ok?

No. Your lack of culture is enormous. But I forgive you because women have a lower IQ than men, they are weak beings and, in my opinion, deserve the concentration camp (especially for modern women).

And I do not like the Albanians, generally (by the way, if you try to contact your shitty Albanian friends to try to recover my ip address: I have a VPN).

I hate people who do not want to inquire. Want to believe in a false taxonomy created by people on internet, terms like "atlantid" or "berid" or other crap that have no basis? Okay, but I would insult you and I would not let you go.


Check out!

Should we you point a pistol on your skull "Albanian" (pseudo-people who has no identity) for you to go and inquire?

[Ylla]

Ew. Wtf am I doing here........

[Enflamme]

Ew. Wtf am I doing here........

Incorrect taxonomies bother me.

[decordoba]

Her reconstruction does not look quiet different to modern Europeans. She should be Neolithic, but my imgagination of Neolithic is different. We don't know the whole spectrum of people who lived in Neolithic age. Maybe she had any Mesolithic roots also - I mean old european.

[Grab the Gauge]

Yes, she is Gracile Med and not Cro Magnon. She does not have a single feature of Cro Magnon or UP skulls.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Yes she does, with some berid

Also, I see that iberians have a point when they say that part of British ancestors are from Iberia, the rest of British ancestry is from celtified aquitanian like people from northern sea coast of mainland Europe

[Grab the Gauge]

Guys here is how you tell if a person is Cro Magnon or not.

Cro Magnons had very high nasal bridges. They were also angulated such that the nasal bridge was more horizontally inclined. This is one of the defining features of Upper Paleolithic European skulls. The majority of them have this.

Just using the very famous Old Man of Cro Magnon skull as an example:


http://i.imgur.com/kmBekaj.jpg?1

Now look at the Irish reconstruction. See how low the nasal bone is? It is also sloping downward rather than horizontally, like Cro Magnon.


http://i.imgur.com/kmyYZ79.jpg?1


This nasal shape usually produces a Roman nose. This is why Cro Magnon reconstructions often have these beaky Roman noses.


Oberkassel:

http://www.sivatherium.narod.ru/library/Nesturh/pics/foto_112.jpg


http://i.imgur.com/th7GVQr.jpg?1

http://i.imgur.com/kmyYZ79.jpg?1

See? She has nothing whatever to do with the classical Cro Magnon type. She looks pure Med. This is just one feature, all her other features are unlike CM as well.

[Grab the Gauge]

Reconstruction of an Upper Paleolithic female from Dordogne:


http://www.lascaux-dordogne.com/sites/default/files/patrimoine_culturel/photos/11747_srt_photo_photo_femme-cro-magnon.jpg

[Rethel]

Reconstruction of an Upper Paleolithic female from Dordogne:

I2 crossed with C6 stronk!