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Sikeliot
06-20-2017, 09:47 PM
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brennus dux gallorum
06-20-2017, 09:50 PM
it's like 30% in Spain, 30% in Sicily, 40% in Bulgaria and Levant

Sikeliot
06-20-2017, 09:51 PM
it's like 30% in Spain, 30% in Sicily, 40% in Bulgaria and Levant

How many Levantine?

I put a poll, vote please :)

brennus dux gallorum
06-20-2017, 09:54 PM
How many Levantine?

I put a poll, vote please :)

Not sure, but for sure less than the rest. Maybe less than 10%, and all of them comparable to the most European part of Levantines

I voted for the first, btw

Tauromachos
06-20-2017, 10:14 PM
Sicilian:
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http://oi68.tinypic.com/vdg77d.jpg http://oi67.tinypic.com/1eooif.jpg

Spain:

Ambigious one but i think spain http://oi68.tinypic.com/phrc.jpg http://oi64.tinypic.com/24qr3av.jpg

http://oi64.tinypic.com/2cnb5dx.jpg Simply Spain this one http://oi63.tinypic.com/4ujfcx.jpg

Bulgaria:http://oi64.tinypic.com/2m2ucro.jpg http://oi67.tinypic.com/6xqh60.jpg http://oi67.tinypic.com/10fta3o.jpg

Sikeliot
06-21-2017, 12:43 AM
bump

MysteriousWays
06-21-2017, 10:34 AM
Levant is the lowest of the four by a good bit. Fairly even split between the others but I'd probably order in this way: Bulgaria, Sicily, Spain, Levant.

Odin
06-21-2017, 12:08 PM
Spain, Sicily, Bulgaria, Levant.

Sikeliot
06-22-2017, 06:59 PM
Others?

Iloko
06-22-2017, 07:24 PM
Sicily, Spain, Bulgaria, Levant.

Some look just like Sicilians; others could pass in both Sicily + Spain simultaneously; others look straight-up Bulgarian....none really strike me as purely from the Levant.

Sikeliot
06-22-2017, 07:25 PM
Sicily, Spain, Bulgaria, Levant.

Some look just like Sicilians; others could pass in both Sicily + Spain simultaneously; others look straight-up Bulgarian....none really strike me as purely from the Levant.

How do they compare to these:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213063-Sicilians-from-NW-Sicily-(Trapani-province)-Rank-best-to-worst-where-they-fit

Try this too ^

Sikeliot
06-23-2017, 04:20 AM
bump

Tooting Carmen
06-23-2017, 04:00 PM
Bulgaria>Spain>Sicily>Levant

Aurelio
06-23-2017, 05:18 PM
Honestly, most people voted for Spain because that's the first option. If it was Bulgarian then Bulgaria would win or Lebanon. People don't give a f*ck about where or what people pass only the easiest, least exhausting ways of brain work to figure things out. This is what the government wants, a bunch of easily manageable people who accept any choice just be A or B.

DarknessWin
06-23-2017, 05:53 PM
Bulgaria, Spain, Sicily, Levant

Ziveth
06-23-2017, 06:13 PM
Sicily, Spain, Bulgaria, Levant.

brennus dux gallorum
06-23-2017, 08:35 PM
In my opinion both Sicily and Spain are equally first, which is also reflected in the poll

Then Bulgaria and finally obviously Levant which is unrelated to Greece

Bruchus
06-25-2017, 02:22 PM
Spain, Sicily, Bulgaria, Levant. I think you should've added Portugal or Iberia as a whole, I saw phenotypes which could fit there as well or better than in Bulgaria.

Sikeliot
06-25-2017, 02:26 PM
Spain, Sicily, Bulgaria, Levant. I think you should've added Portugal or Iberia as a whole, I saw phenotypes which could fit there as well or better than in Bulgaria.

How would you say they compare to Sicilian and Bulgarian?

My impression was they didn't look Bulgarian as a whole but they didn't have as much non-European input as Sicilians. So I might have said Iberian first too.

I also don't think they look Levantine.

Bruchus
06-25-2017, 02:29 PM
How would you say they compare to Sicilian and Bulgarian?

My impression was they didn't look Bulgarian as a whole but they didn't have as much non-European input as Sicilians. So I might have said Iberian first too.

I also don't think they look Levantine.

Since I wanted Spain (Iberia) to be my first guess, Levant had to be there at the last one because some phenotypes you showed, even that not entirely representative, are closer to Bulgaria than to Levant, as it is in my answer.

Sikeliot
06-25-2017, 02:32 PM
Since I wanted Spain (Iberia) to be my first guess, Levant had to be there at the last one because some phenotypes you showed, even that not entirely representative, are closer to Bulgaria than to Levant, as it is in my answer.

My impression is all South Europeans have some overlap with one another, so there will be people who fit anywhere from Portugal to Cyprus, and a minority of each country fits outside of Europe. Then I think the "extreme" regions (Sicily, Crete, etc) have extra non-European and that the northern extremes of each country look more wholly European.

But Bulgarians look very Slavicized so Greeks who look that way could be Bulgarian but not those who look Med.

But I think if you removed the Balkan and Slavic influence in Greece, they might end up looking more Spanish or Portuguese rather than Sicilian or even Cretan, because they don't have as much Levantine input and neither does Iberia.

Bruchus
06-25-2017, 02:38 PM
My impression is all South Europeans have some overlap with one another, so there will be people who fit anywhere from Portugal to Cyprus, and a minority of each country fits outside of Europe. Then I think the "extreme" regions (Sicily, Crete, etc) have extra non-European and that the northern extremes of each country look more wholly European.

But Bulgarians look very Slavicized so Greeks who look that way could be Bulgarian but not those who look Med.

But I think if you removed the Balkan and Slavic influence in Greece, they might end up looking more Spanish or Portuguese rather than Sicilian or even Cretan, because they don't have as much Levantine input and neither does Iberia.

I agree.