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Peterski
06-20-2017, 10:06 PM
I have a Slavic surname but my Y-DNA is Celtic R1b.

My mom's side have a Germanic surname, but what if they have Slavic R1a instead?

What do you think? Could Mellers carry Slavic R1a?: :confused:

http://i.imgur.com/gbGKWbb.png

Rethel
06-20-2017, 10:18 PM
Should I test Y-DNA of my maternal side?

If you are going be deluded becasue of that, then not.


I have a Slavic surname but my Y-DNA is Celtic R1b.

Imagine many here have IE surname, but OE Y...


What do you think? Could Mellers carry Slavic R1a?: :confused:

Can, but who cares... and R1a can be also germanic if you forgotten.

Peterski
06-20-2017, 10:20 PM
and R1a can be also germanic if you forgotten.

R1a-Z284 or R1a-L664 can be Germanic, but R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 are Balto-Slavic. Rethel, your haplogroup is Slavic, and you are in the same Project as this Slavic German from Rügen:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?212748-Germans-from-R%FCgen-are-genetically-Slavic&p=4464307&viewfull=1#post4464307

https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1k2vtkRXOERhEeeJIJ525bRlVNCk&hl=en_US&ll=54.379162365849176%2C13.972073702343778&z=9

Rethel
06-20-2017, 10:25 PM
R1a-Z284 or R1a-L664 can be Germanic, but R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 are Balto-Slavic.

Present also everywhere around europe.


Rethel, your haplogroup is Slavic,

Slavic, as this guys from Wales or Sardinia... :picard1:
If is something particular, then probably corded, as many others, so meaningless.


and you are in the same Project as this Slavic German from Rügen:

1. Why am I there?
2. There is a half of europe.
3. I said once, that I can be from (or through) Polabia, but not necessary local.

Peterski
06-20-2017, 10:28 PM
Present also everywhere around europe.

Because Slavs migrated far and wide, and there are Slavic genes all over Europe.

Rethel
06-20-2017, 10:30 PM
And the picture is wrong, becasue it is so called Tłom, where only chamy lived :p

Rethel
06-20-2017, 10:32 PM
Because Slavs migrated far and wide, and there are Slavic genes all over Europe.

So you see yourself. You can have pozornie slavic hg, but be medieval Scot or Italian or whatever... and vice versa.

Peterski
06-20-2017, 10:32 PM
I have a Slavic surname but R1b, so it would be funny if my mom's side who have a Germanic surname, carry Balto-Slavic R1a instead. But if they also carry R1b, I won't be disappointed.

But I hope that they do not carry a Non-IE haplogroup, like I1 or N1c... ;)

Rethel
06-20-2017, 10:35 PM
I just hope that they do not carry a Non-IE haplogroup, like I1 or E1b... ;D

And this is the reason, why better to not risk. Ignorance is sometimes a bliss...

Peterski
06-20-2017, 10:54 PM
And this is the reason, why better to not risk. Ignorance is sometimes a bliss...

No I'm joking, I don't care if they have IE or Non-IE. I'm just curious.


3. I said once, that I can be from (or through) Polabia, but not necessary local.

This is a very probable scenario.

Your Germanic ancestor was likely descended from Germanized Slavs.

I suspect this for Mellers as well.

Rethel
06-20-2017, 10:59 PM
Your Germanic ancestor was likely descended from Germanized Slavs.

Could be, but at the same time could be from the south through Połabia.
The area where my eventuall cousin or ancestor lived was ruled by the
dynasty from Swabia as well. Logically, a lot of people came with that
house from there. It wouldn't be strange, if mine eventually also. And
in such case I would be from Bavarian Slavs, but I could be also from
the germanic Völkerwanderung or even from the first Cordeds. M458
wasn't born at the time of slavic explosion, the more mine subclade.
When I fanally test enough amount of Germans it will be known, if I
am from the south or I am an independent. Then in this last case a
Polabian scenario would be much more probable.