Classify Ivan Perišić

[Jana]

From Dalmatia. 187 cm tall. Best Croatian footballer in Brazil 2014 and France 2016.
https://www.vbetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/8-3.jpg
http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/France+v+Croatia+International+Friendly+SoMH6TgSak al.jpg
http://strettynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/502548-ivan-perisic-afp.jpg
https://s.ndtvimg.com/images/content/2016/jun/806/ivan-perisic-2106.jpg
https://apitchsideview.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/ivan-perisic.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cl1iAbPVYAEhxlI.jpg:large
http://sportske.jutarnji.hr/incoming/ivan-perisic/4464002/alternates/LANDSCAPE_1080/ivan%20peri%C5%A1i%C4%87

[Lavrentis]

Looks Albanian.

[Jana]

Looks Albanian.
Interesting, he does have a peculiar phenotype and that's why I posted him :)
It more of specific Dalmatian Croat look.

[Lavrentis]

Interesting, he does have a peculiar phenotype and that's why I posted him :)
It more of specific Dalmatian Croat look.

So there are many Dalmatians with this phenotype?

[safinator]

Dinarid


Looks Albanian.

Can pass as one but not the most typical look, i think he fits better in other South Slavic countries.

[Jana]

So there are many Dalmatians with this phenotype?
Both yes and no :D
His head shape is bit extreme- very narrow jaw and very wide cheekbones. Dalmatians have narrow faces in general (compared to northern Croats) but usually more robust chin than him.
He isn't most common but looks unmistakable Dalmatian at the same time. Phenotype is unusual because his natural hair is very curly (east med trait) and his eyes and cheekbones look almost Uralic influenced.
Perišić looks Slavo-med mixed which fits Dalmatia so I guess there are many people like him.

I would never mistake him for a Serb or Bosniak to be honest.

[Jana]

Dinarid

Can pass as one but not the most typical look, i think he fits better in other South Slavic countries.

He is dolichocephalic though (like majority of Dalmatians).

[Lavrentis]

Both yes and no :D
His head shape is bit extreme- very narrow jaw and very wide cheekbones. Dalmatians have narrow faces in general (compared to northern Croats) but usually more robust chin than him.
He isn't most common but looks unmistakable Dalmatian at the same time. Phenotype is unusual because his natural hair is very curly (east med trait) and his eyes and cheekbones look almost Uralic influenced.
Perišić looks Slavo-med mixed which fits Dalmatia so I guess there are many people like him.

I would never mistake him for a Serb or Bosniak to be honest.

In my opinion, he fits in all ex-Yugo countries except Slovenia. Also fits in Albania and Bulgaria.

I think this type is Balkan native with Slavic admixture.

[Jana]

In my opinion, he fits in all ex-Yugo countries except Slovenia. Also fits in Albania and Bulgaria.
I think this type is Balkan native with Slavic admixture.

I agree, there is something ancient about his looks :)

[safinator]

He is dolichocephalic though (like majority of Dalmatians).

He's clearly brachycephalic.


http://i.imgur.com/QGEI2fz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oRrC24f.jpg

[Jana]

He's clearly brachycephalic.


http://i.imgur.com/QGEI2fz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/oRrC24f.jpg

With such narrow face and rounded skull ?!
Brachy people are supposed to have copmpletely flattened head, which he not have (it died out with old generations).

[safinator]

With such narrow face and rounded skull ?!
Brachy people are supposed to have copmpletely flattened head, which he not have (it died out with old generations).

Cephalic index is independent of face breadth and occipital flattening.

[Not a Cop]

With such narrow face and rounded skull ?!
Brachy people are supposed to have copmpletely flattened head, which he not have (it died out with old generations).

Just look at how broad his head is. Celar Dinaric.

[Era]

Looks Albanian.

No.

[Laberia]

In my opinion, he fits in all ex-Yugo countries except Slovenia. Also fits in Albania and Bulgaria.

I think this type is Balkan native with Slavic admixture.

I agree with you. Usually when i see here in the forum photos of some Croats but especially Romanians, if i don't pay attention, i would say he or she can pass in Albania. But if i start to look carefully this photos, there is always a whiff, something non Albanian in this individuals, the slavic blood.
The same can be said for Perisiç. BTW, very good player.

[Jana]

Just look at how broad his head is. Celar Dinaric.
Yeah actually you're right. His forehead is wide and jaw narrow, V shape head :D

[Jana]

I agree with you. Usually when i see here in the forum photos of some Croats but especially Romanians, if i don't pay attention, i would say he or she can pass in Albania. But if i start to look carefully this photos, there is always a whiff, something non Albanian in this individuals, the slavic blood.
The same can be said for Perisiç. BTW, very good player.

Would you speak in Albanian on the streets to Perisic if you saw him in your homeland ? (assuming he wasn't famous footballer)

[Laberia]

Would you speak in Albanian on the streets to Perisic if you saw him in your homeland ? (assuming he wasn't famous footballer)

Yes.

[Odin]

Would you speak in Albanian on the streets to Perisic if you saw him in your homeland ? (assuming he wasn't famous footballer)

Are you trying to differentiate Croats and Albanians here?

[Jana]

Yes.
Cool :) It means he preserved some ancient Delmatae/Illyrian characteristics.

[Jana]

Are you trying to differentiate Croats and Albanians here?
I am checking if he looks familiar to Laberia (ethnic Albanian).
No reason to differenate, we look very different on average but some Croats indeed can pass in Albania especially southerners. Btw if you didn't know we are in very good relations with Albanians so why would I mind if he can fit in their country ? :)

[Laberia]

Cool :) It means he preserved some ancient Delmatae/Illyrian characteristics.

Maybe i am wrong but he is a little bit similar with this policeman, Erzen Breçani, Geg from Tropoja:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQb3jcOS097AempBi7B708UT3Z7YKix9 pP-GBCiZqN0m1tCXXfQPg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4d8lvLMK3EP1FDltby7c-DBMf2gLdmpt9b2Dlv8MVosbrrY44Cg

[Odin]

Btw if you didn't know we are in very good relations with Albanians so why would I mind if he can fit in their country ?

From what I heard, Croats are nazi when it comes to race. I am not saying you are, but I was wondering.

[Lavrentis]

From what I heard, Croats are nazi when it comes to race. I am not saying you are, but I was wondering.

There are Croat neo-nazis, yes. But I don't think that historically Croats were nazi-like when it comes to race. The most common mixed marriages in Yugoslavia were between Serbs and Croats (I'm saying that because Croatian neo-nazis hate Serbs more than anything, but the feeling is mutual on the Serbian side too).

[Jana]

Maybe i am wrong but he is a little bit similar with this policeman, Erzen Breçani, Geg from Tropoja:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQb3jcOS097AempBi7B708UT3Z7YKix9 pP-GBCiZqN0m1tCXXfQPg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4d8lvLMK3EP1FDltby7c-DBMf2gLdmpt9b2Dlv8MVosbrrY44Cg
Indeed, the profile is really similar.


From what I heard, Croats are nazi when it comes to race. I am not saying you are, but I was wondering.
Yes racists are the same in every country. It isn't common in Croatia since we have almost no significant minorities (except Serbians that are also southern Slavs).
Albanians are white Europeans like we and probably pre-Slavic inhabitants of Croatia were Albanian-like population genetically. So we are mix of predominately Slavic northeastern European + southeast European/Balkan genes.
It is natural in some people PaleoBlakan phenotypes will be more dominant while in others Slavic.

Albanian members told me I can pass as blond Albanian too and I take it as a compliment :)

[Odin]

Albanians are white Europeans like we and probably pre-Slavic inhabitants of Croatia were Albanian-like population genetically. Albanian members told me I can pass as blond Albanian too and I take it as a compliment :)

Five years ago, if I was your bf, I would've chuckled at what you just said. :lol:

[Jana]

There are Croat neo-nazis, yes. But I don't think that historically Croats were nazi like when it comes to race. The most common mixed marriages in Yugoslavia were between Serbs and Croats (I'm saying that because Croatian neo-nazis hate Serbs more than anything, but the feeling is mutual on the Serbian side too).

This is true. Nowdays mixed marriages are increasingly rare (on both sides) and I think it's a good thing, not because I consider Serbs subhumans but because mixed marriages produce people with identity crisis and pan-Yugoslavists, and we don't need that. Many Croatian patriots, generals of the past had partly (like Ante Starčević, founder of Croatian right wing party HSP) of fully Serbian orthodox ancestry (like General Borojević) and they considered themself Croats and we are very proud of them.

I think racism and nazism in general in very weak in Croatia unlike in some other eastern-Euro countries since we are maritime nation and people are more used to foreigners than for example in Russia or Slovakia.

[Jana]

Five years ago, if I was your bf, I would've chuckled at what you just said. :lol:
What do you mean ? :)

[vidovic]

Pseudo keltic nordid, but just some kind of Dinarid

[chociprasa]

Atlanto-Dinarid + Uralid, in some pics look pseudo-Brünn

[reboun]

Atlantid+Uralid

[TheMaestro]

Doesn't look Albanian to me, although could pass.

[Immanenz]

sm like Dinaric- North Pontid/Neo Danubian (while the later gets created anyway by mixing NordoMed and Easteuropid), basically Dinaric + sm between Podolski/ Gosens

how you turn a Dinaric pseudo Ashkenazi into a quarter Mong Superslav:
https://2pass.clinic/storage/app/uploads/public/b4b/3ca/871/thumb__1000_664_0_0_crop.jpg

[Jana]

https://dalmatinskiportal.hr/sadrzaj/fotografije/2020-08-27-23-09-903631768/397355633-30493568-413888034.jpg
https://dalmatinskiportal.hr/sadrzaj/fotografije/2020-08-27-23-09-903631768/280508107-587196585-285410114.jpg

[rothaer]

I agree to the statements about Albanian-like traits. Imo this applies in particular also to the two latest posted pics above.

[TheMaestro]

I agree to the statements about Albanian-like traits. Imo this applies in particular also to the two latest posted pics above.

On those last two pics posted he doesn't look Albanian at all. Maybe people are confused because of head shape, because there are many Albanians with downward triangle head shape.

[Sasaolo68]

Norid + Neo-Danubian