First autosomal results for Wielbark and early Polish medieval!

[Lucas]

:cool: Very interesting. Vadim Verenich posted only K36 results so I made analysis based on it.

Niem_34 (900-1000 AD Poland)

https://s15.postimg.org/jsf7oryqz/niemcza.jpg

K36 components
Amerindian 0
Arabian 0
Armenian 0
Basque 6.71
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 15.23
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 0
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 14.77
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 6.25
Fennoscandian 32.13
French 0
Iberian 0.01
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 0
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 7.64
North_Caucasian 0
North_Sea 10.54
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0.01
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0.9
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 0
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 0
West_Med 5.8


nMonte
Sweden_north 37.4
PL_Sudovia 28.9
Finnish_East 23.1
IT_Sardinia 4.2
Pl_Kashubians 3.0
GR_Thrace 1.8
France_SW 1.6


Admix4


post Dzisiaj, 10:06 Edit Post Report Post Quote Post

Na razie pierwszy wynik autosomalny w kalkualtorze K36 (zapostował frekwencje Vadim Verenich). Zrobiłem analizę na tej podstawie. JEst ciekawie...

Niemcza_34 (900-1000 AD) czyli wczesne polskie średniowiecze.

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Wyniki w kalkulatorze

Amerindian 0
Arabian 0
Armenian 0
Basque 6.71
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 15.23
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 0
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 14.77
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 6.25
Fennoscandian 32.13
French 0
Iberian 0.01
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 0
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 7.64
North_Caucasian 0
North_Sea 10.54
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0.01
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0.9
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 0
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 0
West_Med 5.8

Analiza w nMonte

Sweden_north 37.4
PL_Sudovia 28.9
Finnish_East 23.1
IT_Sardinia 4.2
Pl_Kashubians 3.0
GR_Thrace 1.8
France_SW 1.6

Analiza w Admix4

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Estonian @ 17,560703
2 Norway_north @ 19,330858
3 Sweden_north @ 19,894275
4 Russian_North @ 23,245507
5 Russian_Kostroma @ 23,561229
6 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl @ 23,589842
7 Russian_Tver @ 24,54382
8 Russian_Perm @ 24,724274
9 Sweden @ 25,07319
10 Russian_Pinega @ 25,241099
11 Pl_Kashubians @ 25,413996
12 Vepsian @ 25,417291
13 Russian_Vyatka @ 26,437303
14 Norway @ 26,508029
15 German_East @ 26,840821
16 PL_Wielkopolska @ 27,255976
17 Russian_Bryansk @ 27,450663
18 Russian_Meshtchyora @ 27,534214
19 PL_SE_Carpathia @ 27,713141
20 Sorb_Lusatia @ 27,815398
330 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Pl_north+Finnish_SW @ 15,08385
2 Norway_north+Estonian @ 15,089804
3 Sweden_north+Estonian @ 15,185013
4 Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_SW @ 15,261346
5 PL_Wielkopolska+Finnish_SW @ 15,360508
6 Ukrainian_West+Finnish_SW @ 15,665331
7 Finnish_SW+Sorb_Lusatia @ 15,989501
8 Sweden_north+Vepsian @ 16,120843
9 German_East+Finnish_SW @ 16,155785
10 Czechs_Moravians+Finnish_SW @ 16,167073
11 German_East+Karelian @ 16,265324
12 PL_Mazovia+Finnish_SW @ 16,28873
13 Pl_Kashubians+Karelian @ 16,339573
14 South_Dutch+Karelian @ 16,418848
15 PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia+Finnish_SW @ 16,433465
16 Pl_north+Karelian @ 16,452264
17 Sweden+Vepsian @ 16,456091
18 PL_average+Finnish_SW @ 16,487443
19 Russian_Bryansk+Finnish_SW @ 16,552489
20 South_Dutch+Vepsian @ 16,568986
54615 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% Sweden_north +25% Finnish_East @ 13,388059
2 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% South_Dutch +25% Finnish_East @ 13,637605
3 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% Sweden +25% Finnish_East @ 13,642815
4 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% Norway +25% Finnish_East @ 13,664144
5 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% Denmark +25% Finnish_East @ 13,737676
6 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% Central_Dutch +25% Finnish_East @ 13,768636
7 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% Norway_north +25% Finnish_East @ 13,804788
8 50% Pl_north +25% Sweden_north +25% Finnish_East @ 13,818491
9 50% PL_Wielkopolska +25% Sweden_north +25% Finnish_East @ 13,86732
10 50% Sweden_north +25% PL_Sudovia +25% Finnish_East @ 13,915614
11 50% Pl_north +25% Norway_north +25% Finnish_East @ 14,00492
12 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% North_Dutch +25% Finnish_East @ 14,025822
13 50% Sweden_north +25% PL_Sudovia +25% Finnish_Inkeri @ 14,082529
14 50% Sweden +25% PL_Sudovia +25% Finnish_East @ 14,115754
15 50% Pl_Kashubians +25% German_North +25% Finnish_East @ 14,121834
16 50% Sweden_north +25% PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia +25% Finnish_East @ 14,123338
17 50% Sweden_north +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Finnish_Inkeri @ 14,135842
18 50% Russian_Bryansk +25% Central_Dutch +25% Finnish_East @ 14,144983
19 50% Sweden_north +25% Russian_Bryansk +25% Finnish_East @ 14,154835
20 50% PL_Wielkopolska +25% Norway_north +25% Finnish_East @ 14,169184
15463227 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Sweden_north+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_E ast @ 13,388059
2 Sweden_north+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,526345
3 Sweden_north+PL_Wielkopolska+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish _East @ 13,587005
4 South_Dutch+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_Ea st @ 13,637605
5 Sweden+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,642815
6 Norway+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,664144
7 South_Dutch+PL_Sudovia+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,686547
8 Sweden_north+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish _East @ 13,699355
9 South_Dutch+Sweden_north+PL_Sudovia+Finnish_East @ 13,707622
10 Sweden_north+Pl_Kashubians+PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovi a+Finnish_East @ 13,719303
11 Sweden_north+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,726542
12 Sweden_north+PL_Sudovia+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,735395
13 Denmark+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,737676
14 Central_Dutch+PL_Sudovia+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_Eas t @ 13,765609
15 Central_Dutch+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_ East @ 13,768636
16 South_Dutch+Pl_Kashubians+PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia +Finnish_East @ 13,774642
17 Sweden_north+PL_Wielkopolska+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,77977
18 South_Dutch+Russian_Tver+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_Eas t @ 13,780458
19 South_Dutch+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_ East @ 13,780672
20 German_East+Sweden_north+PL_Sudovia+Finnish_East @ 13,78452
21 Central_Dutch+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_Kashubians+Finnis h_East @ 13,794902
22 Central_Dutch+Sweden_north+PL_Sudovia+Finnish_East @ 13,80075
23 Sweden_north+Pl_north+PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia+Fin nish_East @ 13,804622
24 Norway_north+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_E ast @ 13,804788
25 Sweden_north+Ukrainian_West+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_ East @ 13,812404
26 Norway+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,816199
27 Sweden_north+Pl_north+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,818491
28 Sweden_north+PL_Sudovia+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,822285
29 Norway_north+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,828289
30 Norway+PL_Sudovia+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,837048
31 Central_Dutch+Pl_Kashubians+PL_Podlasie_East_Mazov ia+Finnish_East @ 13,839863
32 Sweden+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,842126
33 Norway+Pl_Kashubians+PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia+Finn ish_East @ 13,848176
34 Denmark+Russian_Bryansk+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,851294
35 Sweden+Pl_Kashubians+Pl_north+Finnish_East @ 13,865357
36 Sweden+Sweden_north+PL_Sudovia+Finnish_East @ 13,866953
37 Sweden_north+PL_Wielkopolska+PL_Wielkopolska+Finni sh_East @ 13,86732
38 Denmark+PL_Sudovia+Pl_Kashubians+Finnish_East @ 13,868791
39 Sweden+Pl_Kashubians+PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia+Finn ish_East @ 13,870115
40 Sweden_north+Russian_Don_Cossack+Pl_Kashubians+Fin nish_East @ 13,871279
394648203 iterations.

Analiza K36 Wanke

First 20 Populations distance
1 Sweden_north 1045,55
2 Norway_north 1190,64
3 Estonian 1672,49
4 Sweden 10739,05
5 Russian_Perm 11585,31
6 Russian_Kostroma 12413,97
7 Vepsian 12732,99
8 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl 12971,78
9 Russian_North 14620,32
10 Komi 15579,88
11 Norway 17024,64
12 Russian_Tver 18169,35
13 Russian_Meshtchyora 27932,01
14 Russian_Pinega 29175,10
15 Denmark 29747,36
16 Russian_Novgorod_Pskov 30636,40
17 Latvian 33605,77
18 Tatar_Kryashen 34012,66
19 Russian_Bryansk 36945,09
20 Russian_Center 37643,24


Regional sharing %
1 Scandinavia 58,65
2 Western Finns 20,41
3 Russia North 14,70
4 Eastern Finns 3,40
5 Russia South 2,84

5 Area sharing %
1 North Europe 51,78
2 NE Europe 31,37
3 East Europe 6,67
4 Volga-Ural 5,50
5 East-Central Europe 4,67


2 population sharing %
Sweden_north 53,24
Norway_north 46,76

3 pop. sharing %
Sweden_north 39,95
Norway_north 35,08
Estonian 24,97

5 pop. sharing %
Sweden_north 37,16
Norway_north 32,63
Estonian 23,23
Sweden 3,62
Russian_Perm 3,35

10 pop. sharing %
Sweden_north 31,87
Norway_north 27,99
Estonian 19,92
Sweden 3,10
Russian_Perm 2,88
Russian_Kostroma 2,68
Vepsian 2,62
Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl 2,57
Russian_North 2,28
Komi 2,14






Oracle-spreadsheet

First 20 Populations distance
1 Sweden_north 1045,55
2 Norway_north 1190,64
3 Estonian 1672,49
4 Sweden 10739,05
5 Russian_Perm 11585,31
6 Russian_Kostroma 12413,97
7 Vepsian 12732,99
8 Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl 12971,78
9 Russian_North 14620,32
10 Komi 15579,88
11 Norway 17024,64
12 Russian_Tver 18169,35
13 Russian_Meshtchyora 27932,01
14 Russian_Pinega 29175,10
15 Denmark 29747,36
16 Russian_Novgorod_Pskov 30636,40
17 Latvian 33605,77
18 Tatar_Kryashen 34012,66
19 Russian_Bryansk 36945,09
20 Russian_Center 37643,24


Regional sharing %
1 Scandinavia 58,65
2 Western Finns 20,41
3 Russia North 14,70
4 Eastern Finns 3,40
5 Russia South 2,84

5 Area sharing %
1 North Europe 51,78
2 NE Europe 31,37
3 East Europe 6,67
4 Volga-Ural 5,50
5 East-Central Europe 4,67


2 population sharing %
Sweden_north 53,24
Norway_north 46,76

3 pop. sharing %
Sweden_north 39,95
Norway_north 35,08
Estonian 24,97

5 pop. sharing %
Sweden_north 37,16
Norway_north 32,63
Estonian 23,23
Sweden 3,62
Russian_Perm 3,35

10 pop. sharing %
Sweden_north 31,87
Norway_north 27,99
Estonian 19,92
Sweden 3,10
Russian_Perm 2,88
Russian_Kostroma 2,68
Vepsian 2,62
Russian_Novgorod_Yaroslavl 2,57
Russian_North 2,28
Komi 2,14

[Lucas]

Wielbark Kowalewko
Kow55 - I1a2a1a1d1a1a1b1

https://s18.postimg.org/v7uc9ffa1/Screen_Hunter_1936_Jun._28_10.14.jpg

This one looks Slavic and Sarmatian admixed. I guess he is return migrant from Chernahov Ukraine.


K36 komponenty

Amerindian 0.32
Arabian 0
Armenian 0
Basque 5.33
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 15.71
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 7.77
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 12.56
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 6.35
Fennoscandian 4.68
French 3.08
Iberian 4.8
Indo-Chinese 0.02
Italian 0
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 21.06
North_Caucasian 0
North_Sea 11.24
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 1.38
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 2.13
Volga-Ural 0
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 0
West_Med 3.59


nMonte restricted

Welsh 44.80
Ukrainian_West 41.45
Pl_north 8.30
Dai_South-China 2.50
South_Dutch 1.60
Tamil_Ceylon 1.35

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
German_East German_North Ukrainian_West Pl_north
18.68502 19.56992 19.60741 19.81623
Czechs_Moravians Welsh Orcadian Sorb_Lusatia
19.97765 20.13698 20.25666 20.48627

Admix4

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Welsh @ 23,899121
2 Orcadian @ 23,934519
3 Ireland @ 24,194856
4 German_East @ 24,209637
5 South_Dutch @ 24,507676
6 German_North @ 24,538246
7 NW-England @ 24,7832
8 Scotland @ 24,855861
9 Ukrainian_West @ 25,412205
10 British_mixed @ 25,437641
11 Central_Dutch @ 25,609644
12 North_Dutch @ 25,684511
13 Denmark @ 25,788394
14 Pl_north @ 25,79378
15 Czechs_Moravians @ 25,829732
16 Norway @ 25,832858
17 England_Cumberland @ 25,878299
18 Northern_Ireland @ 26,092037
19 SE_England @ 26,170172
20 Sorb_Lusatia @ 26,240532
330 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Ukrainian_West+Welsh @ 21,12021
2 Ireland+Ukrainian_West @ 21,315674
3 Orcadian+Ukrainian_West @ 21,37371
4 Scotland+Ukrainian_West @ 21,445969
5 Ukrainian_West+SW-England @ 21,485659
6 Pl_north+Welsh @ 21,55034
7 Northern_Ireland+Ukrainian_West @ 21,60833
8 Ireland+Pl_north @ 21,697517
9 Ukrainian_West+NW-England @ 21,717777
10 South_Dutch+Ukrainian_West @ 21,734709
11 Ukrainian_West+England_Cumberland @ 21,786145
12 Russian_Don_Cossack+Welsh @ 21,78982
13 Pl_north+SW-England @ 21,816368
14 Orcadian+Pl_north @ 21,819931
15 North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West @ 21,842015
16 British_mixed+Ukrainian_West @ 21,895687
17 Ireland+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 21,907044
18 Russian_Don_Cossack+SW-England @ 21,980168
19 Scotland+Pl_north @ 21,999297
20 Orcadian+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 22,049719
54615 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% North_Dutch @ 18,994377
2 50% Ukrainian_West +25% Spanish_Basque +25% North_Dutch @ 19,006073
3 50% Ukrainian_West +25% France_SW +25% North_Dutch @ 19,204857
4 50% Pl_north +25% France_SW +25% North_Dutch @ 19,225251
5 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% South_Dutch @ 19,256196
6 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Scotland @ 19,327784
7 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Central_Dutch @ 19,349139
8 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Welsh @ 19,358226
9 50% North_Dutch +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Lithuanian @ 19,368036
10 50% Pl_north +25% French_Basque +25% North_Dutch @ 19,373884
11 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Ireland @ 19,394828
12 50% Ukrainian_West +25% French_Basque +25% North_Dutch @ 19,396902
13 50% Pl_north +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Orcadian @ 19,407108
14 50% Pl_north +25% France_SW +25% Welsh @ 19,438221
15 50% North_Dutch +25% Spanish_Basque +25% PL_Podlasie_East_Mazovia @ 19,451214
16 50% Pl_north +25% France_SW +25% Ireland @ 19,482077
17 50% Pl_north +25% France_SW +25% Scotland @ 19,488293
18 50% North_Dutch +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Russian_Novgorod_Pskov @ 19,4895
19 50% Ukrainian_West +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Central_Dutch @ 19,493491
20 50% Ukrainian_West +25% Spanish_Basque +25% South_Dutch @ 19,504977
17229124 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 18,915589
2 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 18,994377
3 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Ukrainia n_West @ 19,006073
4 France_SW+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 19,13137
5 France_SW+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Ukrainian_Wes t @ 19,204857
6 France_SW+North_Dutch+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,225251
7 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+PL_Wielk opolska @ 19,247631
8 Spanish_Basque+South_Dutch+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,256196
9 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+PL_Wielkopolska+Pl_nort h @ 19,270262
10 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Russian_Don_Cossack+Pl_ north @ 19,29772
11 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Sorb_Lus atia @ 19,297925
12 Spanish_Basque+South_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 19,298018
13 French_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 19,302448
14 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Pl_north+Sorb_Lusatia @ 19,326097
15 Spanish_Basque+Scotland+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,327784
16 Spanish_Basque+Central_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Pl_nor th @ 19,338655
17 Spanish_Basque+Scotland+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 19,347331
18 Spanish_Basque+Central_Dutch+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,349139
19 Spanish_Basque+Pl_north+Pl_north+Welsh @ 19,358226
20 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Russian_Don_Cossack+Ukr ainian_West @ 19,358367
21 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Lithuanian @ 19,368036
22 French_Basque+North_Dutch+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,373884
23 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+PL_Podla sie_East_Mazovia @ 19,375343
24 Spanish_Basque+Ireland+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,394828
25 French_Basque+North_Dutch+Ukrainian_West+Ukrainian _West @ 19,396902
26 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Pl_north+PL_Podlasie_Ea st_Mazovia @ 19,398381
27 Spanish_Basque+Orcadian+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,407108
28 Spanish_Basque+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north+Welsh @ 19,414384
29 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Lithuanian+Welsh @ 19,415541
30 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Ireland+Lithuanian @ 19,43343
31 France_SW+Pl_north+Pl_north+Welsh @ 19,438221
32 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+PL_Podlasie _East_Mazovia @ 19,451214
33 Spanish_Basque+Orcadian+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 19,457214
34 Spanish_Basque+Ireland+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north @ 19,463276
35 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Pl_north+Erzya @ 19,468893
36 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+Scotland+Lithuanian @ 19,474937
37 France_SW+Ukrainian_West+Pl_north+Welsh @ 19,478391
38 France_SW+Ireland+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,482077
39 France_SW+Scotland+Pl_north+Pl_north @ 19,488293
40 Spanish_Basque+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Russian_Nov gorod_Pskov @ 19,4895
464693731 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 South_Dutch @ 8,752479
2 France_NorthWest @ 9,041508
3 Central_Dutch @ 9,281786
4 Welsh @ 9,321539
5 England_Cumberland @ 9,50041
6 France @ 9,513034
7 Scotland @ 9,716839
8 France_Central @ 9,807042
9 France_NorthEast @ 9,82604
10 German_East @ 9,869702
11 IT_Veneto @ 9,892181
12 SE_England @ 9,906465
13 NW-England @ 9,928482
14 Austria_Tyrol @ 9,996587
15 Swiss_German @ 10,036414
16 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 10,040825
17 South_Germany @ 10,118205
18 German_North @ 10,203749
19 German_West @ 10,238667
20 North_Dutch @ 10,266592
330 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 French_Basque+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,487972
2 Spanish_Basque+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,565981
3 France_SW+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,657847
4 Spain_Aragon+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,835239
5 France_South+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,893661
6 Russian_Don_Cossack+Spain_La-Rioja @ 7,89447
7 French_Basque+Pl_north @ 7,903356
8 Spanish_Basque+Pl_north @ 7,906455
9 French_Basque+PL_Wielkopolska @ 7,911906
10 Spanish_Basque+PL_Wielkopolska @ 7,947491
11 French_Basque+Sorb_Lusatia @ 7,972153
12 Spain_Centabria+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 7,987063
13 Spanish_Basque+Sorb_Lusatia @ 8,00718
14 France_SW+Pl_north @ 8,021716
15 France_SW+PL_Wielkopolska @ 8,073729
16 Spain_Catalan+Russian_Don_Cossack @ 8,081119
17 France_SW+Sorb_Lusatia @ 8,085239
18 French_Basque+PL_South_Poland @ 8,094921
19 French_Basque+Hungary @ 8,12355
20 French_Basque+Lithuanian @ 8,135524
54615 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% SW-England @ 6,822095
2 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% French_Basque +25% SW-England @ 6,882523
3 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% North_Dutch @ 6,884395
4 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,893621
5 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Welsh @ 6,903098
6 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Scotland @ 6,924771
7 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% French_Basque +25% England_Cumberland @ 6,932349
8 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Orcadian @ 6,933888
9 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% French_Basque +25% North_Dutch @ 6,934717
10 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% French_Basque +25% Welsh @ 6,943998
11 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Ireland @ 6,95607
12 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Northern_Ireland @ 6,956613
13 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% French_Basque +25% Scotland @ 6,969052
14 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% NW-England @ 6,971906
15 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% Norway @ 6,97447
16 50% Pl_north +25% Tatar_Ural +25% Spanish_Basque @ 6,979021
17 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% South_Dutch @ 6,982619
18 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% French_Basque +25% Orcadian @ 6,985797
19 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% France_SW +25% SW-England @ 6,992423
20 50% Russian_Don_Cossack +25% Spanish_Basque +25% NE-England @ 6,993427

Oracle-spreadsheet

First 20 Populations distance
1 German_East 34,91
2 German_North 38,30
3 Ukrainian_West 38,45
4 Pl_north 39,27
5 Czechs_Moravians 39,91
6 Welsh 40,55
7 Orcadian 41,03
8 Sorbs_Lusatia 41,97
9 South_Dutch 42,41
10 Ireland 43,46
11 Norway 44,25
12 British_mixed 44,28
13 PL_Wielkopolska 44,57
14 NW-England 44,58
15 Central_Dutch 44,84
(non extrapolated) % sum for first twenty pops
Regional sharing %
1 British Isles 37,88
2 East-Balkan 18,10
3 Holland & N. German 14,73
4 Scandinavia 14,68
5 Poland north-west 14,61

Area sharing %
1 East-Central Europe 25,86
2 Balkan 19,60
3 Western Europe 18,42
4 East Europe 18,16
5 British Isles 17,96


2 population sharing %
German_East 52,31
German_North 47,69

3 pop. sharing %
German_East 35,46
German_North 32,33
Ukrainian_West 32,21

5 pop. sharing %
German_East 21,82
German_North 19,89
Ukrainian_West 19,81
Pl_north 19,40
Czechs_Moravians 19,08

10 pop. sharing %
German_East 10,48
German_North 9,55
Ukrainian_West 9,52
Pl_north 9,32
Czechs_Moravians 9,17
Welsh 9,02
Orcadian 8,92
Sorbs_Lusatia 8,72
South_Dutch 8,63
Ireland 8,42

[Lucas]

Wielbark Kowalewsko 25

https://s10.postimg.org/w1l6jzri1/got.jpg

This one looks fully Germanic (besides tiny Arabic and mysterious quite high Amerindian)

K36 components

Amerindian 4.06
Arabian 2.04
Armenian 0.12
Basque 2.63
Central_African 0
Central_Euro 30.03
East_African 0
East_Asian 0
East_Balkan 0
East_Central_Asian 0
East_Central_Euro 0
East_Med 0
Eastern_Euro 3.26
Fennoscandian 9.16
French 2.99
Iberian 0
Indo-Chinese 0
Italian 0
Malayan 0
Near_Eastern 0
North_African 0
North_Atlantic 19.74
North_Caucasian 0.43
North_Sea 23.73
Northeast_African 0
Oceanian 0
Omotic 0
Pygmy 0
Siberian 0
South_Asian 0
South_Central_Asian 0
South_Chinese 0
Volga-Ural 0.91
West_African 0
West_Caucasian 0.9
West_Med 0

nMonte

nMonte restricted
Central_Dutch 60.35
Norway 36.00
South_Amerind 2.35
North_Amerind 1.30
North_Dutch 0.00
Denmark 0.00

full nMonte
Central_Dutch 55.70
Norway 28.75
North_Dutch 5.45
Denmark 3.80
North_Amerind 2.40
South_Amerind 1.15
Saudi 0.60
Sweden_north 0.60
Amerind_COL 0.45
England_Cumberland 0.25
British_mixed 0.20
Chachapoya 0.20
Welsh 0.20
Scotland 0.15
Northern_Ireland 0.10

[1] "1. CLOSEST SINGLE ITEM DISTANCES"
Central_Dutch Norway Denmark North_Dutch South_Dutch
27.10365 27.49639 27.71106 28.09685 28.84775
Scotland Sweden German_North
28.86152 28.89605 29.05191




Admix4
Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Central_Dutch @ 27,138139
2 Norway @ 27,529578
3 Denmark @ 27,74443
4 North_Dutch @ 28,127487
5 South_Dutch @ 28,883627
6 Scotland @ 28,894968
7 Sweden @ 28,92879
8 German_North @ 29,089595
9 British_mixed @ 29,174018
10 Welsh @ 29,610311
11 England_Cumberland @ 29,753721
12 NW-England @ 29,865647
13 Northern_Ireland @ 29,917767
14 Orcadian @ 30,103995
15 SE_England @ 30,190297
16 Sweden_north @ 30,599373
17 Ireland @ 30,851198
18 NE-England @ 31,146758
19 SW-England @ 31,594515
20 German_West @ 33,329652
330 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Central_Dutch+Norway @ 26,937951
2 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch @ 27,138139
3 Central_Dutch+Denmark @ 27,251966
4 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch @ 27,403288
5 Norway+Norway @ 27,529578
6 Denmark+Norway @ 27,561487
7 North_Dutch+Norway @ 27,581364
8 Central_Dutch+Sweden @ 27,695647
9 Scotland+Norway @ 27,742888
10 Denmark+Denmark @ 27,74443
11 Central_Dutch+Sweden_north @ 27,762378
12 South_Dutch+Norway @ 27,808343
13 North_Dutch+Denmark @ 27,830922
14 Central_Dutch+Scotland @ 27,83808
15 British_mixed+Norway @ 27,84529
16 Central_Dutch+South_Dutch @ 27,875836
17 Norway+England_Cumberland @ 27,887763
18 Central_Dutch+British_mixed @ 27,894197
19 Central_Dutch+Welsh @ 27,953411
20 German_North+Central_Dutch @ 28,005043
54615 iterations.

sing 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Central_Dutch +25% Norway +25% Norway @ 26,937951
2 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% Norway @ 26,938535
3 50% Central_Dutch +25% Denmark +25% Norway @ 27,076123
4 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Norway @ 27,108125
5 50% Norway +25% Central_Dutch +25% Norway @ 27,1364
6 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% Denmark @ 27,147054
7 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% Sweden_north @ 27,151454
8 50% Norway +25% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch @ 27,202448
9 50% Norway +25% Central_Dutch +25% Denmark @ 27,203544
10 50% Central_Dutch +25% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch @ 27,211949
11 50% Central_Dutch +25% Denmark +25% Denmark @ 27,251966
12 50% Central_Dutch +25% Norway +25% Sweden_north @ 27,267392
13 50% Central_Dutch +25% Scotland +25% Norway @ 27,269457
14 50% Central_Dutch +25% British_mixed +25% Norway @ 27,287078
15 50% Central_Dutch +25% Sweden +25% Norway @ 27,291497
16 50% Norway +25% Central_Dutch +25% Scotland @ 27,294239
17 50% Central_Dutch +25% Norway +25% Welsh @ 27,300391
18 50% Central_Dutch +25% North_Dutch +25% Denmark @ 27,300757
19 50% Central_Dutch +25% Norway +25% England_Cumberland @ 27,305859
20 50% Central_Dutch +25% South_Dutch +25% Norway @ 27,306886
17968335 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway+Norway @ 26,937951
2 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway @ 26,938535
3 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Denmark+Norway @ 27,076123
4 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway @ 27,108125
5 Central_Dutch+Norway+Norway+Norway @ 27,1364
6 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_ Dutch @ 27,138139
7 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Denmark @ 27,147054
8 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Sweden_n orth @ 27,151454
9 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway+Norway @ 27,202448
10 Central_Dutch+Denmark+Norway+Norway @ 27,203544
11 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Du tch @ 27,211949
12 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Denmark+Denmark @ 27,251966
13 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway+Sweden_north @ 27,267392
14 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Scotland+Norway @ 27,269457
15 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+British_mixed+Norway @ 27,287078
16 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Sweden+Norway @ 27,291497
17 Central_Dutch+Scotland+Norway+Norway @ 27,294239
18 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway+Welsh @ 27,300391
19 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Denmark @ 27,300757
20 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway+England_Cumberl and @ 27,305859
21 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+South_Dutch+Norway @ 27,306886
22 Central_Dutch+Denmark+Denmark+Norway @ 27,308815
23 Central_Dutch+Norway+Norway+England_Cumberland @ 27,310131
24 Central_Dutch+British_mixed+Norway+Norway @ 27,323579
25 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Denmark+Norway @ 27,324704
26 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Sweden @ 27,32868
27 Central_Dutch+South_Dutch+Norway+Norway @ 27,338641
28 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+Norwa y @ 27,33925
29 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+Sweden_nor th @ 27,361315
30 Central_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+Norway+Norway @ 27,361532
31 Central_Dutch+Norway+Norway+Welsh @ 27,363426
32 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Denmark+Sweden_north @ 27,3698
33 Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutch+Norway @ 27,394428
34 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+North_Dutch+North_Dutc h @ 27,403288
35 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Sweden_north+England_C umberland @ 27,404215
36 German_North+Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Norway @ 27,405185
37 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Scotland+Sweden_north @ 27,411678
38 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+British_mixed+Sweden_n orth @ 27,419482
39 Central_Dutch+Scotland+Denmark+Norway @ 27,419795
40 Central_Dutch+Central_Dutch+Northern_Ireland+Swede n_north @ 27,428445
503167995 iterations.

Gaussian method. - here some Slavic similarity is detected anyway, but small and rather random.
Noise dispersion set to 0,130062

Using 1 population approximation:
1 England_Cumberland @ 8,093918
2 Orcadian @ 8,910644
3 Norway_north @ 8,921668
4 Scotland @ 9,004606
5 NW-England @ 9,157882
6 Sweden @ 9,354672
7 Russian_Tver @ 9,416445
8 South_Germany @ 9,471006
9 FR_Bretagne @ 9,479965
10 Norway @ 9,520212
11 Russian_Don_Cossack @ 9,683163
12 Ireland @ 9,696624
13 British_mixed @ 9,827395
14 German_West @ 9,866874
15 Russian_Voronezh @ 9,938227
16 German_North @ 9,984034
17 France_NorthEast @ 9,998938
18 Denmark @ 10,001548
19 Northern_Ireland @ 10,029138
20 Hungary @ 10,03
330 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 England_Cumberland+England_Cumberland @ 8,093918
2 Russian_Voronezh+England_Cumberland @ 8,174126
3 German_North+England_Cumberland @ 8,326558
4 South_Germany+England_Cumberland @ 8,359839
5 Carpathian_Rusyns+England_Cumberland @ 8,375439
6 Moldavian+England_Cumberland @ 8,395674
7 Norway_north+England_Cumberland @ 8,402932
8 British_mixed+England_Cumberland @ 8,446612
9 Sweden+England_Cumberland @ 8,449625
10 Swiss_German+England_Cumberland @ 8,457846
11 Norway+England_Cumberland @ 8,460401
12 Russian_Tver+England_Cumberland @ 8,463036
13 Orcadian+England_Cumberland @ 8,465423
14 Sorb_Lusatia+England_Cumberland @ 8,475831
15 Scotland+England_Cumberland @ 8,480502
16 German_West+England_Cumberland @ 8,481355
17 Denmark+England_Cumberland @ 8,489229
18 NW-England+England_Cumberland @ 8,492862
19 German_North+Erzya @ 8,498673
20 Austria+England_Cumberland @ 8,505415
54615 iterations.

oracle-spreadsheet

First 20 Populations distance
1 Central_Dutch 73,46
2 Norway 75,61
3 Denmark 76,79
4 North_Dutch 78,94
5 South_Dutch 83,22
6 Scotland 83,30
7 Sweden 83,50
8 German_North 84,40
9 British_mixed 84,91
10 Welsh 87,47
11 England_Cumberland 88,33
12 NW-England 88,99
13 Northern Ireland 89,31
14 Orcadian 90,42
15 SE_England 90,93
(non extrapolated) % sum for first twenty pops
Regional sharing %
1 British Isles 37,85
2 Scandinavia 17,76
3 Holland & N. German 15,56
4 East-Balkan 15,22
5 Russia North 13,61

Area sharing %
1 Western Europe 21,87
2 British Isles 20,54
3 Balkan 20,33
4 East-Central Europe 19,17
5 North Europe 18,08

[cosmoo]

Hope they will find out some Y-DNA soon, those from Maslomecz will be interesting to see.

[Lucas]

Kowalewko Wielbark

Kow22 - G2a2b-CTS11324 (
Kow45 - I2a2-L35
Kow55 - I1a2a1a1d1a1a1b1 (above)

Davidsky posted that we must expect also E (big suprise) in Wielbark.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Kowalewko Wielbark

Kow22 - G2a2b-CTS11324 (
Kow45 - I2a2-L35
Kow55 - I1a2a1a1d1a1a1b1 (above)

Davidsky posted that we must expect also E (big suprise) in Wielbark.

They found an E haplogroup in one of them? E-V13?

[Lucas]

They found an E haplogroup in one of them? E-V13?

I don't know sublcade yet...

[Lucas]

Kow_25 in MDLP K11 Oracle

Code:

Using 1 population approximation:
1 British_IronAge @ 7.434154
2 Nordic_BA @ 9.274955
3 British_Celtic @ 10.62579
4 British_AngloSaxon @ 10.796147
5 Bell_Beaker_Germany @ 11.44074
6 Hungary_BA @ 11.495719
7 Nordic_LBA @ 11.755705
8 Alberstedt_LN @ 12.342703
9 Halberstadt_LBA @ 12.429883
10 Nordic_IA @ 12.46921
11 Bell_Beaker_Czech @ 12.558181
12 Nordic_LN @ 13.445606
13 Unetice_EBA @ 13.565998
14 Nordic_MN_B @ 13.642119
15 Unetice_MBA @ 15.733139
16 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN @ 15.821807
17 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland @ 16.176685
18 Nordic_BattleAxe @ 18.471724
19 Corded_Ware_Estonia @ 19.221487
20 Maros_BA @ 19.258405
161 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Anatolia_Chalcolithic+Scandinavian_NH @ 4.376863
2 Nordic_IA+Swedish_LN @ 4.582604
3 Nordic_LN+Swedish_LN @ 4.95107
4 Nordic_LBA+Swedish_LN @ 5.032795
5 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN+Swedish_LN @ 5.079026
6 Corded_Ware_Proto_Unetice_Poland+Swedish_LN @ 5.192102
7 Nordic_BattleAxe+Swedish_LN @ 5.264995
8 Corded_Ware_Estonia+Swedish_LN @ 5.301821
9 Hungary_BA+Nordic_LBA @ 5.359362
10 Hungary_BA+Nordic_IA @ 5.67765
11 Swedish_LN+Unetice_EBA @ 5.73013
12 Sintashta_MBA+Swedish_LN @ 5.759599
13 Hungary_BA+Unetice_MBA @ 5.829477
14 Nordic_MN_B+Swedish_LN @ 6.12627
15 Nordic_BA+Vatya_MBA @ 6.29354
16 Europe_MN+Samara_Eneolithic @ 6.706415
17 British_AngloSaxon+Swedish_LN @ 6.768751
18 Bell_Beaker_Czech+Swedish_LN @ 6.779838
19 Poltavka_MBA_outlier+Swedish_LN @ 6.844261
20 Nordic_LBA+Vatya_MBA @ 7.072922

[Rethel]

E (big suprise) in Wielbark.

Why big surrprize?
1. Did you assume, that E came to Poland after Wielbark?
2. In Wielbark, in gotish graves were find also negros, so, E the more is possible.

[Lucas]

Why big surrprize?
1. Did you assume, that E came to Poland after Wielbark?
2. In Wielbark, in gotish graves were find also negros, so, E the more is possible.

For now we have 4% Amerindian in Kow_25:) Apache Goths...

[Rethel]

For now we have 4% Amerindian in Kow_25:) Apache Goths...

Nothing surrprizeng, considering the fact, that northern trek
of Indians ended in Sweden and could be partialy autosomaly
separated until 2000 years ago. Very possible.

From which century is this Kowalenko?

[cosmoo]

I don't think Kowalewko samples are most representative of the Goths, as they would have been considerably more southwest by that time. I think that from this study only Maslomecz could be called "Gothic" with at least some accuracy, as we don't really have means of differentiating archaeological remains of different East Germanic tribes in Poland.

BTW, can Y-DNA be found in samples analyzed by Vadim Verenich?

[Lucas]

One of them Kow55 - I1a2a1a1d1a1a1b1

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213777-First-autosomal-results-for-Wielbark-and-early-Polish-medieval!&p=4480833&viewfull=1#post4480833

[Lucas]

PCA with Niemcza, Kowalewko and RISE569 and 568 from Czechia.

https://s18.postimg.org/ygpae7myv/pca.jpg

https://s14.postimg.org/4nixawga7/rise.jpg

[Peterski]

Apache Goths...

http://www.opinion.com.bo/opinion/articulos/2012/0530/fotos/214011_600.jpg

http://e.la10.io/normal/2016/08/31/432943_232379.png