South asian admixture in Eurogenes k15

[RN97]

Where does it come from in northern Europeans? For example I thought that from me it came from gypsies, but most Romanians that mixed with gypsies did so in the last 600 years or so so it shows up in 23andme, like this:
http://i.imgur.com/Hz8H8OX.png

However mine shows 0%
http://i.imgur.com/zVEdBL7.png

But in Eurogenes K15 I get
South_Asian 1.94

Here are some other northern Europeans for comparison:
Finn
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 28.13
2 Eastern_Euro 21.58
3 Baltic 20.04
4 Atlantic 15.98
5 West_Med 7.01
6 Siberian 4.82
7 South_Asian 1.18
8 Amerindian 1.03
9 Oceanian 0.13
10 Sub-Saharan 0.08
11 West_Asian 0.03

Norwegian:
Population
North_Sea 39.07
Atlantic 30.16
Baltic 10.78
Eastern_Euro 9.00
West_Med 5.85
West_Asian 0.65
East_Med -
Red_Sea 0.23
South_Asian 2.23
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.20
Amerindian 1.52
Oceanian 0.31
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Finn

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 27.8
2 Baltic 23.67
3 Eastern_Euro 20.47
4 Atlantic 19.37
5 Siberian 4.7
6 South_Asian 1.81
7 West_Med 1.15
8 Oceanian 0.75
9 Amerindian 0.27

Latvian
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.74
2 Eastern_Euro 24.61
3 North_Sea 18.28
4 Atlantic 11.86
5 East_Med 2.8
6 West_Med 1.41
7 South_Asian 1.21
8 Northeast_African 0.1


So where could this come from and do you think that my south Asian is more ancient since it doesn't show up on 23andme? Can it be from both my Romanian and Norwegian side? Why does it seem to show up in the more "eastern" north Euros like Norwegians, Swedes, baltics instead of Brits, Irish, Dutch etc.?

[RN97]

Bump

[Era]

Yes the British have it too, maybe you're not familiar with this.

[Myanthropologies]

It's still pretty vague what "South Asian" actually entails, so your score of South Asian could be something else/noise.

[Pahli]

Could be from ANE or Yamnaya (although they had very little Southasian as well)

[RN97]

It's still pretty vague what "South Asian" actually entails, so your score of South Asian could be something else/noise.

Not noise since n. Euros score it consistently. Some score close to zero but many Euro groups consistently score around 0.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Your South Asian could be from Persian\Iranian origin. Check the Sarmatian people and Alans people. Some theories also claim that Illyrians or Cimmerians could have been from Iranian origin, though it is not clear.

[Pahli]

Here's Yamnaya btw:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 29.29
2 Eastern_Euro 27.67
3 West_Asian 20.02
4 Baltic 11.4
5 Atlantic 5.28
6 South_Asian 3.46
7 Amerindian 2.88

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Let me reformulate: your South Asian could have been brought\carried by Persian\Iranians. They score significant amounts.

[Kelmendasi]

It can be anything from ANE/Yamnaya to more recent Romani admix but idk

[RN97]

It can be anything from ANE/Yamnaya to more recent Romani admix but idk

Nah. Look at the Romanian 23andme I posted. He has recent since he scores it on 23andme. I dont

[Lek]

On gedmatch in Europeans its ancient.

[Percivalle]

So where could this come from and do you think that my south Asian is more ancient since it doesn't show up on 23andme? Can it be from both my Romanian and Norwegian side? Why does it seem to show up in the more "eastern" north Euros like Norwegians, Swedes, baltics instead of Brits, Irish, Dutch etc.?

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-HE_Ofvr96kg/UlltEZ818YI/AAAAAAAAAG4/3zaYH4g2D2U/s1600/K15_mfa_eutest.png

[Babak]

Let me reformulate: your South Asian could have been brought\carried by Persian\Iranians. They score significant amounts.

Hahah, nice joke

[Lek]

Your South Asian could be from Persian\Iranian origin. Check the Sarmatian people and Alans people. Some theories also claim that Illyrians or Cimmerians could have been from Iranian origin, though it is not clear.

Yeah Indo Iranians are a large group linguistically and includes ancient sarmatian, they are indo europeans, and yes, related to other indo europeans like Ilyrians, Thracians and Balto Slavs and even Sanskrit.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Hahah, nice joke

What joke? The Alans (nomadic people of Iranian origin) went as far as Iberia and settled in both Romanian and Germanic regions which is the core of RN97 ancestry.

[Babak]

What joke? The Alans (nomadic people of Iranian origin) went as far as Iberia and settled in both Romanian and Germanic regions which is the core of RN97 ancestry.

Nvm, thought you were talking about todays persians. forget what i said

[Kelmendasi]

Nah. Look at the Romanian 23andme I posted. He has recent since he scores it on 23andme. I dont
Oh I thought that the 23andme results were yours. In your case its ancient

[Lek]

Nvm, thought you were talking about todays persians. forget what i said

Youre not genetically Iranians, just some name and language you adopted from a ruling elite.

Kurds and some other Iranics have more Indo European origin.

[Babak]

Youre not genetically Iranians, just some name and language you adopted from a ruling elite.

Kurds and some other Iranics have more Indo European origin.

Im already aware of this, which is why I said forget what i said. I thought he was talking about Modern Iranians. Also, todays west-iranics derive 40% of their ancestry from Indo-iranians. So its not only "Adopting a language" or "Some name".

Kurds have about the same amount of Indo_iranian ancestry as persians.

[Voskos]

do saami get any of it?

[RN97]

do saami get any of it?

IDK. Wish I had some sami kits. I have none.

[Leto]

Full Russians can score up to 3+% SA on Eurogenes K13, judging by the tons of samples I have gathered. Don't know the source of it, but it's definitely not Gypsy.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Gedmatch calculator trace ancient 'south asian' component via yamnaya who had a good share of it, the reason why does it shows up a decent % of south asian in Latvian and other northern Europeans is because yamnaya contribution is higher in them than lets say in southern europeans.