Classify this person!

[Salem523]

Please classify, guess age (range), country of origin & places he could pass in.;)

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[Odin]

Pics are missing.

[Ziveth]

Can't see the photos

[Salem523]

What about now?

[Odin]

Saharid.

[Ziveth]

Aegyptid-saharid.

[Salem523]

Saharid.

Can he pass as a Bedouin?

[Odin]

Can he pass as a Bedouin?

In North Africa yes.

[Salem523]

Aegyptid-saharid.

What does Aegyptid really composte of?

and does he look jewsh?

[Salem523]

In North Africa yes.

and Arabia?

[Odin]

and Arabia?

Atypical.

[Salem523]

Age range?

[Salem523]

Do u see any Alpine or CM strain?

[Ziveth]

What does Aegyptid really composte of?

and does he look jewsh?
This is aegyptid: https://archive.is/JSmul/be88d451f0bd64109fb368e1ef4ea15f1e3592a2.jpg
i think aegyptid phenotype looks similar to him.
He can pass in North Africa countries, expecially Morocco. Could pass probably also as Arab and Palestinian.
No, he doesn't look jewish from facial features (jews look more like armenoid), and neither for skin color because askhenazi jews have lighter skin. As Yemenite jew maybe yes, because they are partially Arabs.

[wvwvw]

Egypt, Brazil, Yemen

[Ziveth]

Do u see any Alpine or CM strain?

Cro magnon no, they have "strong" lower jaw. These men are cro magnon examples: http://www.ethnopedia.info/physantro/part%201/intro.jpg
And cro magnon people have lighter skin, more European look.
About alpine, no, alpine phenotype is common in central Europe and south Germany, and he can't pass as central European. Also alpine people have much lighter skin than him.

[Ziveth]

Age range?

Maybe 25 or 30 years

[Salem523]

This is aegyptid: https://archive.is/JSmul/be88d451f0bd64109fb368e1ef4ea15f1e3592a2.jpg
i think aegyptid phenotype looks similar to him.
He can pass in North Africa countries, expecially Morocco. Could pass probably also as Arab and Palestinian.
No, he doesn't look jewish from facial features (jews look more like armenoid), and neither for skin color because askhenazi jews have lighter skin. As Yemenite jew maybe yes, because they are partially Arabs.

Does he has any chance to pass in southern Spain(since u mention Morocco)? and it looks like the egyptied phenotype has kinky hair which the OP guy lack ?

[Salem523]

Cro magnon no, they have "strong" lower jaw. These men are cro magnon examples: http://www.ethnopedia.info/physantro/part%201/intro.jpg
And cro magnon people have lighter skin, more European look.
About alpine, no, alpine phenotype is common in central Europe and south Germany, and he can't pass as central European. Also alpine people have much lighter skin than him.

What about the Afalu type cm I think it originated in North Africa or something? and regarding alpine there are also Asiatic alpine ?

[Salem523]

Egypt, Brazil, Yemen

As a Caucasoid?

[wvwvw]

As a Caucasoid?

In the second picture he looks Pakistani, in the first pic he looks like a brown version of Longbowman ;)

[Salem523]

FilhoV, what do u think?:)

[Salem523]

In the second picture he looks Pakistani, in the first pic he looks like a brown version of Longbowman ;)

As typical Pakistani? Which sub-ethnic group ?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Pan southern European

[Salem523]

Pan southern European

MED?

[Ziveth]

Pan southern European

Looks more north African caucasoid. South European people (like Sicilians, Greeks, Iberians, etc.) are lighter skinned.

[Ziveth]

MED?
Med people are more dolicocephalic, and have lighter skin.
Mediterranid race:
https://uploadir.com/u/aibfugy9
They have also different facial features.

[Ziveth]

As typical Pakistani? Which sub-ethnic group ?
Pakistani people have lighter skin and they are, usually, north indid or gracile indid.
Pakistani man:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2e/cb/6d/2ecb6d8cd21a62c5463369f4828fdf7f.jpg
Pakistani people:
http://www.pakru.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/paki-people.jpg

[Salem523]

Med people are more dolicocephalic, and have lighter skin.
Mediterranid race:
https://uploadir.com/u/aibfugy9
They have also different facial features.

I mean north african meds according to coon.

[Salem523]

Looks more north African caucasoid. South European people (like Sicilians, Greeks, Iberians, etc.) are lighter skinned.

So if he walks in the street between native Iberians they will be shocked :shocked: and amazed at how dark his skin is?;)

[Salem523]

Pakistani people have lighter skin and they are, usually, north indid or gracile indid.
Pakistani man:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2e/cb/6d/2ecb6d8cd21a62c5463369f4828fdf7f.jpg
Pakistani people:
http://www.pakru.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/paki-people.jpg

That is true for most of them.:)

[Porn Master]

papua

[zarzian]

This interesting specimen is comprised of a proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry since paleoveds (Australoids) did venture into the Arabian peninsula at some point in the Paleolithic era. There are even leftovers in the present.

[Kamal900]

South Asian looking. You can pass in countries like India(especially in the eastern India), Egypt and Arabia(especially in the persian gulf).

[Kamal900]

This interesting specimen is comprised of a proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry since paleoveds (Australoids) did venture into the Arabian peninsula at some point in the Paleolithic era. There are even leftovers in the present.

Especially in some remote islands in southern Arabia. The J1e proto-Semitic speakers that migrated from the Levant basically killed off most of the men of Arabia and intermarried with the local women which is why Arabians and Egyptians today cluster the closest to the ancient Natufians.

[zarzian]

Especially in some remote islands in southern Arabia. The J1e proto-Semitic speakers that migrated from the Levant basically killed off most of the men of Arabia and intermarried with the local women which is why Arabians and Egyptians today cluster the closest to the ancient Natufians.

It seems that the J/J2 line was originally a savage, high altitude adapted aggressive race, that ventured in all directions in a star pattern with their origin in the Zagros - Caucasus - Alborz range continuum. They reached as far north as the Karelian Steppe, to as far south as Yemen, and from England to India. The J line can easily compete with the R line in terms of seed spreading success.

[Salem523]

papua

What? u must be joking.

[Salem523]

South Asian looking. You can pass in countries like India(especially in the eastern India), Egypt and Arabia(especially in the persian gulf).

Eastern India? u mean like mongoloid looking.

[Iloko]

Somewhere around Egypt

[Salem523]

This interesting specimen is comprised of a proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry since paleoveds (Australoids) did venture into the Arabian peninsula at some point in the Paleolithic era. There are even leftovers in the present.

I can understand proto-Arabid, ancient paleolithic veddoid but Natufian admixture? what is that mean ?

[JMack]

Mediterranid + Veddoid + Negroid.

[JMack]

He can pass as Bengali, South Indian, mixed Latin American, mixed Arabian, Egyptian and North African.

[Salem523]

He can pass as Bengali, South Indian, mixed Latin American, mixed Arabian, Egyptian and North African.

So he is basically a mullato. isn't he?

[Salem523]

Mediterranid + Veddoid + Negroid.

So he is an ancient product mix of 3 races?

[JMack]

So he is basically a mullato. isn't he?

He looks closer to a quadroon than to a mulatto. Mulattoes are more SSA influenced than this guy.

Also, I don't agree he can pass in Pakistan. Maybe as very atypical, but most Pakistanis are lighter skinned than him.

[Salem523]

He looks closer to a quadroon than to a mulatto. Mulattoes are more SSA influenced than this guy.

Also, I don't agree he can pass in Pakistan. Maybe as very atypical, but most Pakistanis are lighter skinned than him.

Some say he looks SOUTHERN European. Do u agree with them?

[JMack]

Some say he looks SOUTHERN European. Do u agree with them?

No. lol

[Salem523]

I will reveal his ethnicity later.;)

[Salem523]

No. lol

My I ask what ethnicity/country are u from?

[JMack]

My I ask what ethnicity/country are u from?

75% Italian and 25% Iberian.

[Salem523]

What plate he resembles the most ?

[Salem523]

75% Italian and 25% Iberian.

u said he can pass as a bangali or as south asian, as typical or atypical?

In my opinion most Bengalis look monogloid admixed of some sort.

[Porn Master]

What? u must be joking.




papua

[Salem523]

papua

classification ?:)e.g. Australoid ,...

[JMack]

u said he can pass as a bangali or as south asian, as typical or atypical?

In my opinion most Bengalis look monogloid admixed of some sort.

Bengalis are heavily Australoid/Veddoid admixed as well. He could fit reasonably well there.

[Salem523]

Bengalis are heavily Australoid/Veddoid admixed as well. He could fit reasonably well there.

What race are Australoid/Veddoid?

[Salem523]

South Asian looking. You can pass in countries like India(especially in the eastern India), Egypt and Arabia(especially in the persian gulf).

Can he pass as Palestinian Bedouin or in fertile of the crescent ?

[Kamal900]

Can he pass as Palestinian Bedouin or in fertile of the crescent ?

He somewhat can.

[Salem523]

He somewhat can.

Does he look strange for Arabian ?

[Ziveth]

What race are Australoid/Veddoid?

Australoid are Australian aboriginal people

[Salem523]

Australoid are Australian aboriginal people

So, are they considered early/pre-Caucasoid or separate race. and does the OP guy looks one of them?

[Ziveth]

Does he look strange for Arabian ?
Arabians have different nose (they look more semitic) but maybe could pass as an Arab also.

[Salem523]

Arabians have different nose (they look more semitic) but maybe could pass as an Arab also.

I think not all Arabian tribes have the hooked nosed-eagle shaped neither they all Arabid.

[Ziveth]

So, are they considered early/pre-Caucasoid or separate race. and does the OP guy looks one of them?

Australian aboriginal people, even if they're black skinned are not considered "black" as Africans (black Africans are congoid race). They have very dark skin however.
Example:
http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Aboriginal-men-.jpg
and
http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/australia-aborigines-460.jpg
No, they aren't considered caucasian or congoid, their skull and genetics are different. They're a separated race.
I don't think the guy in the photo you posted is australoid.

[Salem523]

I think not all Arabian tribes have the hooked nosed-eagle shaped neither they all Arabid.

There are Arabian who look like aristocrat Asiatic alpine or something. They have different orientations ,,...

[Ziveth]

I think not all Arabian tribes have the hooked nosed-eagle shaped neither they all Arabid.
Not all, but most of them have hooked nose.

[Salem523]

Australian aboriginal people, even if they're black skinned are not considered "black" as Africans (black Africans are congoid race). They have very dark skin however.
Example:
http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Aboriginal-men-.jpg
and
http://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/australia-aborigines-460.jpg
No, they aren't considered caucasian or congoid, their skull and genetics are different. They're a separated race.
I don't think the guy in the photo you posted is australoid.

Some of members think he does.

[Salem523]

So, as a classification can we say he is med+something primitive;)

[Ziveth]

So, as a classification can we say he is med+something primitive;)

No primitive. He doesn't look like a Neanderthal, lol :D

[Salem523]

No primitive. He doesn't look like a Neanderthal, lol :D

Any comment on the below:
This interesting specimen is comprised of a proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry since paleoveds (Australoids) did venture into the Arabian peninsula at some point in the Paleolithic era. There are even leftovers in the present.

[zarzian]

Any comment on the below:
This interesting specimen is comprised of a proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry since paleoveds (Australoids) did venture into the Arabian peninsula at some point in the Paleolithic era. There are even leftovers in the present.

Yes he is primitive but not archaic, though some might consider Paleoveddoids as archaic. As far as the Natufian part which you were questioning about, they were the Proto-afroasiatic speaking gracile type of the epi-paleolithic Sinai- Levant.

[Damião de Góis]

So if he walks in the street between native Iberians they will be shocked :shocked: and amazed at how dark his skin is?;)

No, at most they would think the guy wanted to sell them flowers.

[Ziveth]

There are Arabian who look like aristocrat Asiatic alpine or something. They have different orientations ,,...

Asiatic alpinid is a subrace of the Irano-Afghan race, not a subrace of the Arabic race.

[Salem523]

:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:
No, at most they would think the guy wanted to sell them flowers.

:icon_biggrin:

[Salem523]

Asiatic alpinid is a subrace of the Irano-Afghan race, not a subrace of the Arabic race.

I see. I think Arabs are not a race it's just a language that connects different ethnic groups. That is all, they are like this since ancient times.Also, imo the so called "Arabid" race is never existed. It just a coucosoid type that came from the north, and the arabian peninsula was already populated with early human (Ancient belt theory) something like proto-Australiod or vedda...., resulting in an admixture that's vary according to the tribes or even sometimes within the sub-clans of the same tribe.:). I do not know if Arab people & Arabian agree or not.

[Salem523]

Yes he is primitive but not archaic, though some might consider Paleoveddoids as archaic. As far as the Natufian part which you were questioning about, they were the Proto-afroasiatic speaking gracile type of the epi-paleolithic Sinai- Levant.

What race are they? And do u think he looks kinda like them or at least influenced by them?:)

[Salem523]

MORE MORE CLASSIFICATIONS:icon_yell:;)

[Salem523]

According to comments, he can pass in many continents; Southern Europe, Southern Asia, North Africa, west Asia (Arabia) & Latino/Hispanic/South American...... Does he has a versatile look?:confused:

[SardiniaAtlantis]

Yemeni clear SSA in there straight hair doesn't mean SSA is missing. Did you ask about passing in southern Spain as a joke? Lol no way.

[Hadouken]

can only pass as north african and gulf arabian . (maybe south asian too but I dont know . south asian members can tell better)

arabid or gracile med not sure which + alpine + some ssa

[Salem523]

Yemeni clear SSA in there straight hair doesn't mean SSA is missing. Did you ask about passing in southern Spain as a joke? Lol no way.


Pan southern European

This member thinks so.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

This member thinks so.

That member was clearly trolling.

[Salem523]

Yemeni clear SSA in there straight hair doesn't mean SSA is missing. Did you ask about passing in southern Spain as a joke? Lol no way.

May be veddoid insted of SSA.

[Salem523]

can only pass as north african and gulf arabian . (maybe south asian too but I dont know . south asian members can tell better)

arabid or gracile med not sure which + alpine + some ssa

May vedaoid insted of SSA.

[Hadouken]

May vedaoid insted of SSA.

possible

[SardiniaAtlantis]

May vedaoid insted of SSA.

I did consider it but I can see it being ssa more than cesspit though there is a Papuan Bedford look that might also be south Asian to this guy.

[Salem523]

What plates from Coon ?:)

[SardiniaAtlantis]

What plates from Coon ?:)

Coon is an idiot.

[Salem523]

Coon is an idiot.

A lot of people saying that I do not know why:confused:

[Salem523]

possible

What race is veda people?

[Hadouken]

What race is veda people?

australoid or australoid+caucasoid or australoid+caucasoid+mongoloid

not fully sure

[SardiniaAtlantis]

A lot of people saying that I do not know why:confused:

Well you asked if this kind of guy can look Southern European so you seem to be confused about a lot of things, the most European he can look is a quarter European and the rest aboriginal or Papuan.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I still don't think it's australoid though i think it's ssa, in some pics it almost looks like a Nigerian who straightened his hair lol.

[Salem523]

Well you asked if this kind of guy can look Southern European so you seem to be confused about a lot of things, the most European he can look is a quarter European and the rest aboriginal or Papuan.

like this guy named rafael nadal. I found a thread about him, people think he is half aboriginal or somthing.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

like this guy named rafael nadal. I found a thread about him, people think he is half aboriginal or somthing.

Even if they were both half Papuan Nadal would still look 100 times more European than this guy.

[Salem523]

Even if they were both half Papuan Nadal would still look 100 times more European than this guy.

I see.:)

[Salem523]

One more pic here

[JMack]

Rafael Nadal is a Cro-Magnid influenced Euro type, this guy on the OP is basically a Mediterranoid that is Veddoid or Negroid influenced (~40%). They look nothing alike. Guy on the OP doesn't even look fully Caucasoid.

[Salem523]

I do not understand where People see SSA admixture in this guy?:confused:

[Salem523]

Rafael Nadal is a Cro-Magnid influenced Euro type, this guy on the OP is basically a Mediterranoid that is Veddoid or Negroid influenced (~40%). They look nothing alike. Guy on the OP doesn't even look fully Caucasoid.

40% SSA admix will not look like the OP guy. No way:)

[JMack]

40% SSA admix will not look like the OP guy. No way:)

It's a SSA + Veddoid combo. The rest is Caucasoid.

[Numidia]

What about the Afalu type cm I think it originated in North Africa or something?

mechta afalou is associated to proto-iberians


Any comment on the below:
This interesting specimen is comprised of a proto-Arabid + Natufian admixture and might even have ancient paleolithic veddoid ancestry since paleoveds (Australoids) did venture into the Arabian peninsula at some point in the Paleolithic era. There are even leftovers in the present.

there is no such thing as "natufian admixture". The natufians were north africans leftovers.


I see. I think Arabs are not a race it's just a language that connects different ethnic groups. That is all, they are like this since ancient times.Also, imo the so called "Arabid" race is never existed. It just a coucosoid type that came from the north, and the arabian peninsula was already populated with early human (Ancient belt theory) something like proto-Australiod or vedda...., resulting in an admixture that's vary according to the tribes or even sometimes within the sub-clans of the same tribe.:). I do not know if Arab people & Arabian agree or not.


there is an arabid phenotype which correspond to a kind of mediterranean bedouins type, the first populations of Arabia were probably veddoid but afroasiatic people who are related to ancient egyptians came there
so this person can only be egyptian or even more likely arabian

[Salem523]

mechta afalou is associated to proto-iberians



there is no such thing as "natufian admixture". The natufians were north africans leftovers.




there is an arabid phenotype which correspond to a kind of mediterranean bedouins type, the first populations of Arabia were probably veddoid but afroasiatic people who are related to ancient egyptians came there
so this person can only be egyptian or even more likely arabian

how would u classify him? and can he passes in other north africans countries.

[Numidia]

how would u classify him? and can he passes in other north africans countries.

orientalid with minor ethiopid
he doesn't have the common look of north africans

[Salem523]

orientalid with minor ethiopid
he doesn't have the common look of north africans

So he can not pass as Bedouin in Arabia?

[Wadaad]

One more pic here

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You are coastal Arab...I believe Yemen or Saudi

[Salem523]

You are coastal Arab...I believe Yemen or Saudi

coastal ? U mean Afro-arab they look different.don't u think ?

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I do not understand where People see SSA admixture in this guy?:confused:

That's nonsense that you can't see it. Yes can easily be Yemeni.

[Hadouken]

no ssa at all. Subnordid imo

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[Salem523]

That's nonsense that you can't see it. Yes can easily be Yemeni.

1- Phenotype does not equal genotype and viseversa. I think he is just croese features looking individual like regal nadel. 2- not all Yemeni is SSA admixed 3- real life he will stick out like a sore thumbing any black/African community/country,no one one will say look at his face he is definatilly SSA admixed. 4- Carleton Stevens Coon, included some of MENA type as Mediterraneans u can check his plates.5- I have seen some mulotos who been classified as different things accept SSA admixtures. 6- wide noses/thick lower lips can be found in many coucosoid sauce as alpine and CM derivatives. 7- Primitive looking or archaic looking individual does not mean admixtures. 7- I think the only way to know if he is SSA admixed is to test his DNA and see his results. 8- prgnathism can be found in races such as Armenoid with thick/pouty lower lip. 9- If u are not familiar with his phenotype does not make him SSA admixed.10- I think he is a desert adapted phenotype. 11- if u analyses every one facial features Ver technically every one will be likely to have some kind of mix.12- sorry for my English I am writing from a phone13- I do not think I forget anything may be yes may be no14. - veddoid admixture is not SSA it is different race all together which may give the illusion of SSA admixture.

[Salem523]

no ssa at all. Subnordid imo

sent from my phone using owd fuckatalk . No way he is sub Nordid.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

1- Phenotype does not equal genotype and viseversa. I think he is just croese features looking individual like regal nadel. 2- not all Yemeni is SSA admixed 3- real life he will stick out like a sore thumbing any black/African community/country,no one one will say look at his face he is definatilly SSA admixed. 4- Carleton Stevens Coon, included some of MENA type as Mediterraneans u can check his plates.5- I have seen some mulotos who been classified as different things accept SSA admixtures. 6- wide noses/thick lower lips can be found in many coucosoid sauce as alpine and CM derivatives. 7- Primitive looking or archaic looking individual does not mean admixtures. 7- I think the only way to know if he is SSA admixed is to test his DNA and see his results. 8- prgnathism can be found in races such as Armenoid with thick/pouty lower lip. 9- If u are not familiar with his phenotype does not make him SSA admixed.10- I think he is a desert adapted phenotype. 11- if u analyses every one facial features Ver technically every one will be likely to have some kind of mix.12- sorry for my English I am writing from a phone13- I do not think I forget anything may be yes may be no14. - veddoid admixture is not SSA it is different race all together which may give the illusion of SSA admixture.

Yes it may be ssa just as it may be ceddoid but no he wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb amongst mulatto people he's fit right at home in many Caribbean mulatto islands. Yes many middle easterners are Mediterranean. This individual isn't.

[Hadouken]

. No way he is sub Nordid.

you dont say . I was just joking

he is ...or better said you are an alpine-ssa-mediterranoid type of mix imo but I am not fully sure about your phenotype .

gulf arab area + egypt what you look and I cant see you as anything else except some new world country maybe like SardiniaAtlantis said. mainly Carribiean

in the old world you dont fit as anything else than gulf arabian and egyptian

[Salem523]

Yes it may be ssa just as it may be ceddoid but no he wouldn't stick out like a sore thumb amongst mulatto people he's fit right at home in many Caribbean mulatto islands. Yes many middle easterners are Mediterranean. This individual isn't.

1- Caribbean mullattos can look like anything from the old world until something exotic and mixed new world.
2- I did not say he is only Mediterranean and here I do not mean European meds no I mean this plate below :tell me what u think of

FIG. 6 (2 views, photo Wm. M. Shanklin). A coarse, dark-skinned type of Ruwalla Bedawi. Among the North Arabian Bedawin, besides the more delicately formed Mediterranean types already observed, occur individuals who seem to show relationships with the Veddoid element on the other side of the desert, and perhaps also with the deeply pigmented element of southern Iraq, as exemplified by Fig. 3. Tribes and populations possessing these racial elements do not possess the normal 25 per cent of incipient blondism characteristic of most Mediterranean groups.
Posted Imagethis plate.


65716


3- I can assure u that his ancestors never step a foot outside of their lands since the ancient times & imo he is an ancient mix of proto-med/orientaild + veddeiod or ethopoid but generally speaking he can pass in most Arabic speaking countries as local people will think he is one of them, nothing exotic.
4- Here we are talking phenotypes not percentages or numbers.
5- Anyhow, anthropology is a pesedou/science - bro-fun science so, take it easy and there is nothing wrong for being SSA % or even monogloid;)
6- I am not raciest.

[Salem523]

you dont say . I was just joking

he is ...or better said you are an alpine-ssa-mediterranoid type of mix imo but I am not fully sure about your phenotype .

gulf arab area + egypt what you look and I cant see you as anything else except some new world country maybe like SardiniaAtlantis said. mainly Carribiean

in the old world you dont fit as anything else than gulf arabian and egyptian

Most of what u say is true.:) mainly the last sentence.

[JMack]

no ssa at all. Subnordid imo

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Best definition of the threads this salemsomething make.

Posting obvious SSA influenced people and saying they don't have SSA. wtf

[Salem523]

Best definition of the threads this salemsomething make.

Posting obvious SSA influenced people and saying they don't have SSA. wtf

Veddiod may give the illusion of SSA admixture. I can understand why people may think only SSA admixure. But there are other things too, to consider.