Autosomal Results of Turkics

[AndarKhan]

All tables prepared by using MDLP K23b.

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Also, comparison of Turks(Turkey) and Turkmens:

http://www.haplogruplar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/turkmen-turkish-genetic-admixture.png

http://www.haplogruplar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/turkmen-turkish-turks-ancient-anatolian-genetic-structure-admixture-and-difference.png
("Nortwest Asia" is Caucasian component.)
("Ancient Anatolian" example is I1583 M411713)

Source of tables:
http://www.haplogruplar.com/turklerde-otozomal-dna/
http://www.haplogruplar.com/turklerin-genetik-yapisi/
http://www.haplogruplar.com/turkiye-turklerinin-orta-asyali-turkmenlerle-genetik-akrabaligi/

[Pahli]

32% Northwest Asian? I am not sure what "Northwest Asian" stands for but I hope it isn't Mongoloid lmfao. Here's what your "Ancient Anatolian" looks like in gedmatch calculators:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 64.4
2 SW_Asia 21.51
3 West_Asia 12.71
4 NE_Europe 1.27
5 Oceania 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jew 29.24
2 Italian_Sicilian 29.52
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 31.02
4 Italian_Abruzzo 31.14
5 Cypriot 32.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.4% French_Basque + 49.6% Samaritan_Jew @ 26.44
2 60.1% Cypriot + 39.9% French_Basque @ 26.99
3 51.7% French_Basque + 48.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 27.03
4 63.2% Italian_Sicilian + 36.8% Mozabite @ 27.19
5 58% Mozabite + 42% French_Basque @ 27.24

[AndarKhan]

32% Northwest Asian? I am not sure what "Northwest Asian" stands for but I hope it isn't Mongoloid lmfao. Here's what your "Ancient Anatolian" looks like in gedmatch calculators:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SW_Europe 64.4
2 SW_Asia 21.51
3 West_Asia 12.71
4 NE_Europe 1.27
5 Oceania 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jew 29.24
2 Italian_Sicilian 29.52
3 Ashkenazy_Jew 31.02
4 Italian_Abruzzo 31.14
5 Cypriot 32.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50.4% French_Basque + 49.6% Samaritan_Jew @ 26.44
2 60.1% Cypriot + 39.9% French_Basque @ 26.99
3 51.7% French_Basque + 48.3% Egyptian_Copts @ 27.03
4 63.2% Italian_Sicilian + 36.8% Mozabite @ 27.19
5 58% Mozabite + 42% French_Basque @ 27.24

Sorry, If some site or someone is Turkish, this is pseudo-scientific. I forgot your perspective.
(He tied this "Northwest" thing to site's Turkishnes but he edited the comment and deleted that part. :d :d)

[Pahli]

Sorry, If some site or someone is Turkish, this is pseudo-scientific. I forgot your perspective.

No, I am asking you what "Northwest Asian" stands for.

[zarzian]

No, I am asking you what "Northwest Asian" stands for.

Probably just West Asian or Caucasian component

[AndarKhan]

No, I am asking you what "Northwest Asian" stands for.

Actually, You tied the thing to site's turkishness.

And edited your comment. :D :D :D

[AndarKhan]

Probably just West Asian or Caucasian component

Actually
This is caucasian component probably.

http://www.haplogruplar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/turkmen-turkish-turks-ancient-anatolian-genetic-structure-admixture-and-difference.png

http://www.haplogruplar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/TURKISH_wm1.jpg

[Pahli]

Actually, You tied the thing to site's turkishness.

And edited your comment. :D :D :D

Yes I missunderstood something, my fault :cool:

[Kamal900]

You retards from Turkey to Iran are all the same.

[Peterski]

That "Ancient Anatolian" is probably Early Neolithic.

Here is a Copper Age Anatolian (I1584), M091434:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214422-Eurogenes-K15-PCA&p=4501467&viewfull=1#post4501467

MDLP K23b results of I1584 (Turkey, 3000 BCE):

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 1.79
South_Central_Asian 9.90
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 44.89
Archaic_Human -
East_African -
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 33.05
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African -
Near_East 7.22
North_African 2.32
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy 0.82
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers -

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Kit M091434

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.89
2 European_Early_Farmers 33.05
3 South_Central_Asian 9.9
4 Near_East 7.22
5 North_African 2.32
6 Ancestral_Altaic 1.79
7 African_Pygmy 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 13.32
2 Greek_Islands ( ) 13.6
3 Greek_Athens ( ) 14.23
4 Italian_South ( ) 14.38
5 Central_Greek ( ) 14.85
6 Sicilian_Center ( ) 14.92
7 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 15.59
8 Greek ( ) 15.82
9 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 16.43
10 Sicilian_East ( ) 16.68
11 Cretan ( ) 16.79
12 Kosovar ( ) 16.83
13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 16.99
14 Romanian_Jew ( ) 17
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 17.13
16 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 17.17
17 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 17.3
18 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 17.47
19 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 17.5
20 Greek_Northwest ( ) 17.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.5% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 46.5% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.18
2 60.7% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 39.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.52
3 53.8% Georgian_Imereti ( ) + 46.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.8
4 53.9% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) + 46.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.27
5 55.1% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) + 44.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.54
6 54.7% Georgian_Svan ( ) + 45.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.08
7 56.1% Georgian ( ) + 43.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.12
8 55.5% Adjara ( ) + 44.5% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.15
9 56.1% Abkhasian ( ) + 43.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 6.44
10 62% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 38% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 7.14
11 59.1% Kakheti ( ) + 40.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 7.26
12 62.5% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 37.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 7.33
13 68.9% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 31.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 8.26
14 69.5% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 30.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 8.35
15 59% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 41% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 8.46
16 65.8% Armenian ( ) + 34.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 9.01
17 53.9% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 46.1% French_South ( ) @ 9.13
18 66.3% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 33.7% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 9.45
19 51.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 48.9% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 9.78
20 52.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 47.9% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 9.86

[AndarKhan]

That "Ancient Anatolian" is probably Early Neolithic.

Here is a Copper Age Anatolian (I1584), M091434:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214422-Eurogenes-K15-PCA&p=4501467&viewfull=1#post4501467

MDLP K23b results of I1584 (Turkey, 3000 BCE):

Population
Amerindian -
Ancestral_Altaic 1.79
South_Central_Asian 9.90
Arctic -
South_Indian -
Australoid -
Austronesian -
Caucasian 44.89
Archaic_Human -
East_African -
East_Siberian -
European_Early_Farmers 33.05
Khoisan -
Melano_Polynesian -
Archaic_African -
Near_East 7.22
North_African 2.32
Paleo_Siberian -
African_Pygmy 0.82
South_East_Asian -
Subsaharian -
Tungus-Altaic -
European_Hunters_Gatherers -

MDLP K23b Oracle results:

Kit M091434

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 44.89
2 European_Early_Farmers 33.05
3 South_Central_Asian 9.9
4 Near_East 7.22
5 North_African 2.32
6 Ancestral_Altaic 1.79
7 African_Pygmy 0.82

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Smyrna ( ) 13.32
2 Greek_Islands ( ) 13.6
3 Greek_Athens ( ) 14.23
4 Italian_South ( ) 14.38
5 Central_Greek ( ) 14.85
6 Sicilian_Center ( ) 14.92
7 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 15.59
8 Greek ( ) 15.82
9 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 16.43
10 Sicilian_East ( ) 16.68
11 Cretan ( ) 16.79
12 Kosovar ( ) 16.83
13 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 16.99
14 Romanian_Jew ( ) 17
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 17.13
16 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 17.17
17 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 17.3
18 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 17.47
19 Italian_Abruzzo ( ) 17.5
20 Greek_Northwest ( ) 17.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.5% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 46.5% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.18
2 60.7% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 39.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.52
3 53.8% Georgian_Imereti ( ) + 46.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 3.8
4 53.9% Georgian_Tbilisi ( ) + 46.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.27
5 55.1% Georgian_Megrelia ( ) + 44.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 4.54
6 54.7% Georgian_Svan ( ) + 45.3% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.08
7 56.1% Georgian ( ) + 43.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.12
8 55.5% Adjara ( ) + 44.5% Sardinian ( ) @ 5.15
9 56.1% Abkhasian ( ) + 43.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 6.44
10 62% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 38% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 7.14
11 59.1% Kakheti ( ) + 40.9% Sardinian ( ) @ 7.26
12 62.5% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 37.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 7.33
13 68.9% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 31.1% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 8.26
14 69.5% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 30.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 8.35
15 59% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 41% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 8.46
16 65.8% Armenian ( ) + 34.2% Sardinian ( ) @ 9.01
17 53.9% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 46.1% French_South ( ) @ 9.13
18 66.3% Turk_Trabzon ( ) + 33.7% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 9.45
19 51.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 48.9% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 9.78
20 52.1% Georgian_Laz ( ) + 47.9% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 9.86

According to the site
Example is I1583 M411713

[Peterski]

I1584 from Barcın Höyük (5016 ± 31 years Before Present, so ~3000 BCE):

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/wasiancopperbronzeagedna.shtml


According to the site
Example is I1583 M411713

Yeah, this I1583 one is Neolithic from ~6350 BCE, much older than I1584:

http://www.ancestraljourneys.org/wasianneolithicdna.shtml

[Leto]

Is the "Ancestral Altaic" mongoloid? There's no way Tatars are over 25% mong on average.

[Voskos]

Is the "Ancestral Altaic" mongoloid? There's no way Tatars are over 25% mong on average.

it isn't mongoloid. it's turkic

[AndarKhan]

Is the "Ancestral Altaic" mongoloid? There's no way Tatars are over 25% mong on average.

Actually, Tatars are different from each other.

[Turkminator]

Is the "Ancestral Altaic" mongoloid? There's no way Tatars are over 25% mong on average.

Why you guys still believe that "Mongoloid" is an indicator for Turks in the context of modern genetics and knowledge? There is no scientific evidence that the Turks have developed from a Mongoloid core.

[AndarKhan]

it isn't mongoloid. it's turkic

İt is mongolod. It is not Turkic.

[Kamal900]

Why you guys still believe that "Mongoloid" is an indicator for Turks in the context of modern genetics and knowledge? There is no scientific evidence that the Turks have developed from a Mongoloid core.

You and the Kurds are pretty much the same people. Don't understand why you dislike one another is beyond me.

[AndarKhan]

Why you guys still believe that "Mongoloid" is an indicator for Turks in the context of modern genetics and knowledge? There is no scientific evidence that the Turks have developed from a Mongoloid core.

+1 this comment.

[Leto]

it isn't mongoloid. it's turkic
There's no such thing as a 'Turkic race'.

[Leto]

Why you guys still believe that "Mongoloid" is an indicator for Turks in the context of modern genetics and knowledge? There is no scientific evidence that the Turks have developed from a Mongoloid core.
I merely asked whether the component is mongoloid or not.

[Leto]

Actually, Tatars are different from each other.
Volga Tatars are between 15 and 25% mong with most people being around 18-22% mongoloid. I'm judging by the number of samples I have found (surely over 50).

[AndarKhan]

Volga Tatars are between 15 and 25% mong with most people being around 18-22% mongoloid. I'm judging by the fair share of samples I have found.

Tatar GROUPS are different from other Tatar groups. Example Volgas and Crimeans are different.

[Leto]

Tatar GROUPS are different from other Tatar groups. Example Volgas and Crimeans are different.
I clearly said Volga Tatars. They are more or less homogeneous nowadays due to recent migrations and mixing. For example, over 55% of all Russian Tatars live in Tatarstan and Bashkiria.
Crimean Tatars are a different people to me.

[AndarKhan]

I clearly said Volga Tatars. They are more or less homogeneous nowadays due to recent migrations and mixing. For example, over 55% of all Russian Tatars live in Tatarstan and Bashkiria.
Crimean Tatars are a different people to me.

The tables are not only about Volga Tatars.

[Proto-Shaman]

You and the Kurds are pretty much the same people. Don't understand why you dislike one another is beyond me.

because one part of ergative proto-Turks migrated into Central Asia, and the other part stayed in Zagros. 6000 years later they met again.

https://morukbuiyi.files.wordpress.com/2016/07/gif-1.gif?w=656
https://media.tenor.com/images/6deb89f277c791e3d6470a3bdabcada1/tenor.gif

[Hadouken]

because one part of ergative proto-Turks migrated into Central Asia, and the other part stayed in Zagros. 6000 years they met again.

wut

[Proto-Shaman]

wut
hab viele Bücher gelesen.

[Hadouken]

hab viele Bücher gelesen.

laut dir ist jeder türk :D

[Proto-Shaman]

laut dir ist jeder türk :D

Bruder lies doch mal Ferdinand Hennebichers papers und Bücher, dann weißt du sofort Bescheid was Sache ist :)

[Hadouken]

Bruder lies doch mal Ferdinand Hennebichers papers und Bücher, dann weißt du sofort Bescheid was Sache ist :)

der eine schreibt dies der andere das :)

scheiß drauf ...

ist auch im endeffekt egal lol

[Proto-Shaman]

der eine schreibt dies der andere das :)

scheiß drauf ...

ist auch im endeffekt egal lol

Fakt ist Kurden gab es schon immer dort wo sie jetzt leben ;)

[MagnusAurelius]

You retards from Turkey to Iran are all the same.

At least their Culture wasn't Arabized+Islamized like your people.

[Kamal900]

At least their Culture wasn't Arabized+Islamized like your people.

These two countries are Islamized, and I told you that we're Arabs based on our linguistic and cultural affiliations. 7abibi, Italians are the last people to talk when it comes to cultural assimilation and all that, and they're not purely meds either considering that many Germanic and other tribes from North-Central Europe came to the peninsula in the early middle ages and mixed with the locals there. Btw, I was mainly talking about the west Asian Turkic peoples from Turkey to Iran which has the largest concentration of Turkic people in the middle east after Turkey. I wasn't talking about the ethnic Iranians.

[MagnusAurelius]

These two countries are Islamized, and I told you that we're Arabs based on our linguistic and cultural affiliations. 7abibi, Italians are the last people to talk when it comes to cultural assimilation and all that, and they're not purely meds either considering that many Germanic and other tribes from North-Central Europe came to the peninsula in the early middle ages and mixed with the locals there. Btw, I was mainly talking about the west Asian Turkic peoples from Turkey to Iran which has the largest concentration of Turkic people in the middle east after Turkey. I wasn't talking about the ethnic Iranians.

Last people? The Germanic admixture in Italy is highly exaggerated. Alright, linguistic and cultural affiliations, if that helps you sleep at night.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/padania/

The Germanic branch is (S21/U106/M405). Itallic Branch is haplogroup R1b-S28 (U152).

[Norka]

Hmmmm
Interesting to compare mine to these. Hey Anal compare yours to these.
Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 45.98
2 Caucasian 24
3 European_Early_Farmers 8.25
4 Ancestral_Altaic 7.21
5 East_Siberian 5.07
6 South_Central_Asian 3.82
7 Tungus-Altaic 2.02
8 Paleo_Siberian 1.91
9 Near_East 0.72
10 Australoid 0.53
11 North_African 0.24
12 Austronesian 0.15
13 Archaic_Human 0.08
14 Melano_Polynesian 0.01

Population (source) Distance
1 Erzya ( ) 3.39
2 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 3.97
3 Moksha ( ) 4.96
4 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 5.28
5 Russian-North ( ) 5.46
6 Russian-Ural ( ) 6.39
7 Russian_Vologda ( ) 6.52
8 Russian-North-West ( ) 6.55
9 Tatar-Mishar ( ) 6.63
10 Tatar-Kazan ( ) 6.68
11 Russian_North ( ) 6.91
12 Russian-West ( ) 7.18
13 Balt ( ) 7.38
14 Estonian ( ) 7.41
15 Latvian ( ) 8.28
16 Finnish_FIN ( ) 8.37
17 Mordovian ( ) 8.67
18 Finnish-East ( ) 9.06
19 Finn_East ( ) 9.14
20 Tatar_Kryashen ( ) 9.26

[Pahli]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.53
2 South_Central_Asian 26.72
3 Near_East 10.27
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.3
5 North_African 5.26
6 South_Indian 2.41
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.36
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.27
9 South_East_Asian 1.21
10 Tungus-Altaic 1.16
11 Australoid 0.74
12 Archaic_Human 0.48
13 Archaic_African 0.3

Kek

[Gangrel]

İt is mongolod. It is not Turkic.

It's not. That goes against spreadsheet averages

[Norka]

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.53
2 South_Central_Asian 26.72
3 Near_East 10.27
4 European_Early_Farmers 9.3
5 North_African 5.26
6 South_Indian 2.41
7 European_Hunters_Gatherers 2.36
8 Ancestral_Altaic 2.27
9 South_East_Asian 1.21
10 Tungus-Altaic 1.16
11 Australoid 0.74
12 Archaic_Human 0.48
13 Archaic_African 0.3

Kek
Bruh... you are such a Turkic. Anal Stallions brother I bet both of you left Tamerlanes left nut.

[Pahli]

Bruh... you are such a Turkic. Anal Stallions brother I bet both of you left Tamerlanes left nut.

I am not related to such braindead sandnigger xD