DNA of Gypsy couples produces 100% White children. REMEMBER THAT !!!

[ButlerKing]

I might aswell post this to clear some misunderstanding those blonde hair/red hair gypsies that you find in Gypsies couples are generally all 100% pure Gypsies. Gypsies can always produce European looking children with variety of eye/hair color because they are genetically 60-80% European themselves while this is something nearly impossible for South Asian parents. They are two completely different races. REMEMBER THAT !!!

Gypsies DNA = Predominantly European + with some South Asian DNA

South Asian DNA = Pure South Asian DNA.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFfYkQ94MaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5aCwnnVR-s

[Sacrificed Ram]

It is called albinism, none relation with race.

[Mortimer]

they are 20-40% European. Not 60-80%. Well there are different estimates but 60-80% is definitely too much. At best 50%. Going by 23andme they are 20-40%. well there are some who are 90% too but they are minority for average its too much. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?189953-Gypsy-Results-with-pictures&highlight=Gypsy+23andme+results

they could produce white looking children in some rare cases, but they can produce indian looking children much more likely. because "dark" is dominant.

http://www.growweedeasy.com/sites/growweedeasy.com/files/non-mendelian-inheritance.jpg

[RN97]

Some gypsy results on Eurogenes k13:
Admix Results (sorted):
1.


# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 26.04
2 East_Med 21.47
3 West_Asian 15.87
4 West_Med 13.35
5 North_Atlantic 8.62
6 Baltic 6.74
7 Red_Sea 3.70
8 East_Asian 3.50


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen @ 27.382296
2 Turkish @ 28.134151
3 Afghan_Tadjik @ 28.580484
4 Azeri @ 28.886070
5 East_Sicilian @ 29.449755
6 Central_Greek @ 29.732056
7 Tadjik @ 30.039883
8 Greek_Thessaly @ 30.143129
9 South_Italian @ 30.351122
10 Ashkenazi @ 30.425486
11 Italian_Abruzzo @ 30.898127
12 Iranian @ 31.123512
13 West_Sicilian @ 31.283670
14 Syrian @ 31.522924
15 Afghan_Pashtun @ 31.835588
16 Sephardic_Jewish @ 32.360657
17 Lebanese_Muslim @ 32.454739
18 Algerian_Jewish @ 32.556793
19 Kurdish @ 33.026939
20 Libyan_Jewish @ 33.609219

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +50% Brahmin_UP @ 5.601551


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Algerian_Jewish +25% Bangladeshi +25% Punjabi_Jat @ 4.828609


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Algerian_Jewish + Algerian_Jewish + Bangladeshi + Punjabi_Jat @ 4.828609

2.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 20.39
2 East_Med 19.73
3 West_Asian 16.38
4 North_Atlantic 12.35
5 West_Med 12.31
6 Baltic 11.15
7 Siberian 3.51
8 Red_Sea 2.62
9 East_Asian 1.23


Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
13 components mode.

--------------------------------

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Greek_Thessaly @ 23.895344
2 Turkmen @ 24.123127
3 Central_Greek @ 24.879753
4 East_Sicilian @ 25.079109
5 Turkish @ 25.406256
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 25.582987
7 Afghan_Tadjik @ 26.138639
8 Tadjik @ 26.271805
9 Ashkenazi @ 26.455120
10 South_Italian @ 26.688536
11 West_Sicilian @ 26.776304
12 Azeri @ 26.828716
13 Bulgarian @ 26.993761
14 Romanian @ 27.865828
15 Tuscan @ 29.233753
16 Nogay @ 29.628990
17 Sephardic_Jewish @ 30.025536
18 Afghan_Pashtun @ 30.365736
19 Iranian @ 30.369015
20 Algerian_Jewish @ 30.587379

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazi +50% Punjabi_Jat @ 8.210892


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +25% North_Kannadi +25% Turkish @ 3.125501


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Ashkenazi + North_Kannadi + Serbian + Turkish @ 2.437442

BTW on average gypsies have around 20-25% paleo-European admixture (the unmixed ones) while the average European around 51-53% and the average southeast European around 48% probably from PIE, the average Gujarti for example has around 8-12%

[ButlerKing]

they are 20-40% European. Not 60-80%. Well there are different estimates but 60-80% is definitely too much. At best 50%. Going by 23andme they are 20-40%. well there are some who are 90% too but they are minority for average its too much. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?189953-Gypsy-Results-with-pictures&highlight=Gypsy+23andme+results

they could produce white looking children in some rare cases, but they can produce indian looking children much more likely. because "dark" is dominant.

http://www.growweedeasy.com/sites/growweedeasy.com/files/non-mendelian-inheritance.jpg

I'm so sick and tired of this. When will you guys just cut the crap?

Yes I agree that the ancestors of Gypsies were from South Asia ( there's no absolute proof that they came from the region of North India/Pakistan ) and DNA clearly proves that they 1/3 South Asian but majority of their DNA comes from 2/3 Europeans while a minority is South Asians.

Also those Indian looking children that you say came from Gypsies can also resemble a dark/swarthy Europeans from South Europe as well.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T-cAPqE_HI8/UMY4e2_zh_I/AAAAAAAABYs/6WpyHkdmlyQ/s640/RomaniStructure.png

[ButlerKing]

It is called albinism, none relation with race.

It's not just albinism. It's unlikely that Gypsies will suffer from albinism. The vast majority of Roma/Gypsies from all Europe are genetically proven to be 10-40% South Asian admixture but 60-90% European admixture. Btw I also learned that East Europeans are considered wild savages in the past by west Europeans so it's no surprise. Gypsies have largely genetic and cultural influence from East Europeans so therefore it isn't correct to blame on the cultures of South Asian people. It is a genetic and cultural combination of South Asian + East Europeans that created the Gypsies today.


http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0960982212012602-gr2.jpg

[Mortimer]

I'm so sick and tired of this. When will you guys just cut the crap?

Yes I agree that the ancestors of Gypsies were from South Asia ( there's no absolute proof that they came from the region of North India/Pakistan ) and DNA clearly proves that they 1/3 South Asian but majority of their DNA comes from 2/3 Europeans while a minority is South Asians.

Also those Indian looking children that you say came from Gypsies can also resemble a dark/swarthy Europeans from South Europe as well.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-T-cAPqE_HI8/UMY4e2_zh_I/AAAAAAAABYs/6WpyHkdmlyQ/s640/RomaniStructure.png

They are 1/3 middle eastern 1/3 european and 1/3 southasian. While middle eastern is closer to european then southasian, many middle easterners wouldnt pass as europeans either.
https://www.google.at/search?q=iranians&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT-KzUjoDVAhWIWhoKHUsGBVoQ_AUIBigB&biw=1600&bih=794

https://www.google.at/search?q=iranians&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT-KzUjoDVAhWIWhoKHUsGBVoQ_AUIBigB&biw=1600&bih=794#tbm=isch&q=kurds

Gypsies (or majority of them) wouldnt pass as European. Im mixed Gypsy and not even I pass as European. And Im 60-80% European (on Myheritage 79% and on WeGene 61%) depending on company or calculator that means no way my family could be as much European as I am, because my dad was 3/4 Serb.

[ButlerKing]

They are 1/3 middle eastern 1/3 european and 1/3 southasian. While middle eastern is closer to european then southasian, many middle easterners wouldnt pass as europeans either.
https://www.google.at/search?q=iranians&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT-KzUjoDVAhWIWhoKHUsGBVoQ_AUIBigB&biw=1600&bih=794

https://www.google.at/search?q=iranians&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjT-KzUjoDVAhWIWhoKHUsGBVoQ_AUIBigB&biw=1600&bih=794#tbm=isch&q=kurds

Gypsies (or majority of them) wouldnt pass as European. Im mixed Gypsy and not even I pass as European. And Im 60-80% European (on Myheritage 79% and on WeGene 61%) depending on company or calculator that means no way my family could be as much European as I am, because my dad was 3/4 Serb.

You just said they are only 1/3 South Asian. So what makes you think those dark skin gypsies are supposed to resemble Indians and not a dark skin middle easterner or swarthy Europeans.


I DON'T CARE IF GYPSIES LOOK INDIAN, I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO EXAGGERATE LIKE YOU DO. ( Mind you I'm not hating Gypsies, I think gypsies can be very successful too if they wanted and there are some very successful gypsies singers, athletes. Gypsies also look exotic to be honest)

Actually you wouldn't pass for any of the ethnicity of South Asia either.


Here are Italians/Albanians/Middle easterners

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/2007745/2/stock-photo-2007745-italian-man-eating-and-drinking.jpg
https://photos.smugmug.com/Events/Turkish-Festival-Monterey/DSC0091-copy/846807581_BiCEL-L-4.jpg
https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7383/8715742593_23d20460c9_z.jpg
http://www.sport-express.ua/upload/news/2012/2/147575-tornike-okriashvili-zabil-blagodarja-targamadze-karpaty-ilichevets-0-1-kontrolnyj-match-.jpg

[Sacrificed Ram]

It's not just albinism. It's unlikely that Gypsies will suffer from albinism. The vast majority of Roma/Gypsies from all Europe are genetically proven to be 10-40% South Asian admixture but 60-90% European admixture. Btw I also learned that East Europeans are considered wild savages in the past by west Europeans so it's no surprise. Gypsies have largely genetic and cultural influence from East Europeans so therefore it's in correct to blame on the cultures of South Asian people. It is a genetic and cultural combination of South Asian + East Europeans that created the Gypsies today.
http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0960982212012602-gr2.jpg

I'm talking about the case of the girl Maria, her siblings are also albines:
https://static2.stuff.co.nz/1382640194/891/9325891.jpg

[Mortimer]

It's not just albinism. It's unlikely that Gypsies will suffer from albinism. The vast majority of Roma/Gypsies from all Europe are genetically proven to be 10-40% South Asian admixture but 60-90% European admixture. Btw I also learned that East Europeans are considered wild savages in the past by west Europeans so it's no surprise. Gypsies have largely genetic and cultural influence from East Europeans so therefore it's in correct to blame on the cultures of South Asian people. It is a genetic and cultural combination of South Asian + East Europeans that created the Gypsies today.


http://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0960982212012602-gr2.jpg

Because of their look they will always be considered closer to "east" then "west" at least in Europe or New World where whites are majority. And I dont consider indians as superior to gypsies, india has 1.3billion people and half of them are super poor, shit on the streets and bath in river full of corpses, drink cow urine (consider that sacred) you should say it the other way around, dont blame gypsies for indians.

[Mortimer]

You just said they are only 1/3 South Asian. So what makes you think those dark skin gypsies are supposed to resemble Indians and not a dark skin middle easterner or swarthy Europeans.


I DON'T CARE IF GYPSIES LOOK INDIAN, I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO EXAGGERATE LIKE YOU DO.

Actually you wouldn't pass for any of the ethnicity of South Asia either.


Not all Gypsies look indian but many do, dont ask me why. And how that works in multigenerational mixed people. But coon classified them as indian too, and anthropologists usually agreed they are a indian sub-race like indobrachid or gracile indid. They must have known a bit more then you. If Gypsies looked European they wouldnt be persecuted.

[ButlerKing]

Because of their look they will always be considered closer to "east" then "west" at least in Europe or New World where whites are majority. And I dont consider indians as superior to gypsies, india has 1.3billion people and half of them are super poor, shit on the streets and bath in river full of corpses, drink cow urine (consider that sacred) you should say it the other way around, dont blame gypsies for indians.

Indians are considered the top 3 most successful migrants to the west. The Jews, East Asians, Indians ( and even Pakistani to a extend ) have the highest paid jobs, low poverty. You're watching to much propaganda, the Indo-European languages spread from India to Europe this is proven recently by European linguists.

Gypsies/roma are also successful people but is incorrect to claim they are a ethnic group with origins with South Asia. Because Gypsies/Roma people lived in Europe for thousand years while only a few years in India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romani_people

For example

Ilie "Nasty" Năstase a Romanian former world No. 1 professional tennis player, one of the world's top players of the 1970s. He was ranked world no. 1 from 23 August 1973 to 2 June 1974.

[Mortimer]

Indians are considered the top 3 most successful migrants to the west. The Jews, East Asians, Indians ( and even Pakistani to a extend ) have the highest paid jobs, low poverty. You're watching to much propaganda, the Indo-European languages spread from India to Europe this is proven recently by European linguists.

Gypsies/roma are also successful people but is incorrect to claim they are a ethnic group with origins with South Asia. Because Gypsies/Roma people lived in Europe for thousand years while only a few years in India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romani_people

For example

Ilie "Nasty" Năstase a Romanian former world No. 1 professional tennis player, one of the world's top players of the 1970s. He was ranked world no. 1 from 23 August 1973 to 2 June 1974.

denying gypsies are from india is like denying african americans are from africa. the first and foremost most noticeable about gypsies is their very dark skin colour, resembling indians. most laymen are not anthropologists and they would not spot gypsies in india but they would spot them in europe. people dont care for genetic studies or how long gypsies are in europe, they care only for skin colour.

look here gypsies are even darker then sikhs or jatts and resemble low castes. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214330-classify-some-bulgarian-roma&highlight=Bulgarian+Roma

[Sacrificed Ram]

shit on the streets

:rotfl:

[ButlerKing]

Not all Gypsies look indian but many do, dont ask me why. And how that works in multigenerational mixed people. But coon classified them as indian too, and anthropologists usually agreed they are a indian sub-race like indobrachid or gracile indid. They must have known a bit more then you. If Gypsies looked European they wouldnt be persecuted.

Gypsies were reported to look European like many Jews. But Jews were more persecute and enslaved than Gypsies were in the Nazi extermination camps. Although the Germans considered both of them subhumans the Germans treated Gypsies far more humane than the Jews.

Germans did not exterminate Gypsies for being Indian ( they don't even know they have Indian origins ) The problem with Gypsies were their behavior which was mainly the influence of East Europeans. The Germans wanted to exterminated the Slavs, Poles and other East European ethnicity along with Jews, Gypsies. They were considered as bad as the Gypsies.

GYPSIES IN WW2 LOOKED LIKE THESE !!!! PURE EUROPEAN PHENOTYPES.

https://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/wlc/image/63/63359.jpg
http://travellerstimes.org.uk/UserFiles/News/Gypsy%20Holocaust%20pics/Camps%202%20001%202.JPG
http://hmd.org.uk/sites/default/files/136._gypsy_prisoners.jpg

[Mortimer]

Gypsies were reported to look European like many Jews. But Jews were more persecute and enslaved than Gypsies were in the Nazi extermination camps. Although the Germans considered both of them subhumans the Germans treated Gypsies far more humane than the Jews.

Germans did not exterminate Gypsies for being Indian ( they don't even know they have Indian origins ) The problem with Gypsies were their behavior which was mainly the influence of East Europeans. The Germans wanted to exterminated the Slavs, Poles and other East European ethnicity along with Jews, Gypsies. They were considered as bad as the Gypsies.

GYPSIES IN WW2 LOOKED LIKE THESE !!!! PURE EUROPEAN PHENOTYPES.

https://www.ushmm.org/lcmedia/photo/wlc/image/63/63359.jpg
http://travellerstimes.org.uk/UserFiles/News/Gypsy%20Holocaust%20pics/Camps%202%20001%202.JPG
http://hmd.org.uk/sites/default/files/136._gypsy_prisoners.jpg

many gypsies look european, but many also dont. usually people associate gypsies with the dark ones, the white ones might be better integrated and physically not visible as gypsies have a habit of denying their ancestry (even if they are dark) the white ones might have it easier to go away and assimilate.

[ButlerKing]

denying gypsies are from india is like denying african americans are from africa. the first and foremost most noticeable about gypsies is their very dark skin colour, resembling indians. most laymen are not anthropologists and they would not spot gypsies in india but they would spot them in europe. people dont care for genetic studies or how long gypsies are in europe, they care only for skin colour.

look here gypsies are even darker then sikhs or jatts and resemble low castes. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?214330-classify-some-bulgarian-roma&highlight=Bulgarian+Roma

Those are just your superficial opinion, there's no proof nor evidence for it.

And I've seen South Europeans/Middle easterners who are even darker than South Asians and Gypsies. This doesn't mean they are related either.

https://challengingtherhetoric.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/yemens-civil-war.jpg
https://www.lewrockwell.com/assets/2007/09/070817iran.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01689/Nicolas_Almagro_1689148c.jpg
http://panel.mustangcorps.com/admin/fl/upload/files/callum.jpg
http://prayercast.com/downloadimage/yemen2.jpg

[RN97]

Indians are considered the top 3 most successful migrants to the west. The Jews, East Asians, Indians ( and even Pakistani to a extend ) have the highest paid jobs, low poverty. You're watching to much propaganda, the Indo-European languages spread from India to Europe this is proven recently by European linguists.

Gypsies/roma are also successful people but is incorrect to claim they are a ethnic group with origins with South Asia. Because Gypsies/Roma people lived in Europe for thousand years while only a few years in India.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Romani_people

For example

Ilie "Nasty" Năstase a Romanian former world No. 1 professional tennis player, one of the world's top players of the 1970s. He was ranked world no. 1 from 23 August 1973 to 2 June 1974.

Very wrong friendo.
It's most likely the proto-IE people were from central Asia and spread their language and culture to both south Asia and Europe.
Now while they weren't like modern European, just compare here.
Yamnaya:
Ancient_North_Eurasian Basal-rich East_Eurasian Oceanian Southeast_Asian Sub-Saharan Villabruna-related(European HG)
47.7675 14.465 0.0275 0.3625 0.2625 0.3175 36.7975
North Indian (Gujarti)
35.7533333 33.88 10.5366667 3.7566667 6.4066667 0.0333333 9.6366667
Lithuanian:
20.64 18.2033333 0.55 0.16 0.1333333 0 60.3133333

Clearly they were more closely related to Europeans and it's theorized that they were half Eastern hunter gatherers (most of the ancestry of modern eastern Europeans)

[ButlerKing]

Very wrong friendo.
It's most likely the proto-IE people were from central Asia and spread their language and culture to both south Asia and Europe.
Now while they weren't like modern European, just compare here.
Yamnaya:
Ancient_North_Eurasian Basal-rich East_Eurasian Oceanian Southeast_Asian Sub-Saharan Villabruna-related(European HG)
47.7675 14.465 0.0275 0.3625 0.2625 0.3175 36.7975
North Indian (Gujarti)
35.7533333 33.88 10.5366667 3.7566667 6.4066667 0.0333333 9.6366667
Lithuanian:
20.64 18.2033333 0.55 0.16 0.1333333 0 60.3133333

Clearly they were more closely related to Europeans and it's theorized that they were half Eastern hunter gatherers (most of the ancestry of modern eastern Europeans)

I would suggest you look at " Out of Indian " origin yourself. I wouldn't want to waste debating on those who disagree as I've wasted enough time on youtube battling against those like you.

[RN97]

I would suggest you look at " Out of Indian " origin yourself. I wouldn't want to waste debating on those who disagree as I've wasted enough time on youtube battling against those like you.

Pretty much fact (will become soon) that the PIE were not south Asian
https://gnxp.nofe.me/2017/06/24/indian/
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece

[Mortimer]

Those are just your superficial opinion, there's no proof nor evidence for it.

And I've seen South Europeans/Middle easterners who are even darker than South Asians and Gypsies. This doesn't mean they are related either.

https://challengingtherhetoric.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/yemens-civil-war.jpg
https://www.lewrockwell.com/assets/2007/09/070817iran.jpg
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01689/Nicolas_Almagro_1689148c.jpg
http://panel.mustangcorps.com/admin/fl/upload/files/callum.jpg
http://prayercast.com/downloadimage/yemen2.jpg

so you believe its all a hoax? it could be a hoax of course, but in academia its pretty much established.

[ButlerKing]

Pretty much fact (will become soon) that the PIE were not south Asian
https://gnxp.nofe.me/2017/06/24/indian/
http://www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece

The Yamnaya were of significant ANE ancestry meaning they are partially Mongoloid influence. Are you telling me you're okay with that nonsense ?

[ButlerKing]

so you believe its all a hoax? it could be a hoax of course, but in academia its pretty much established.

Show me this academia claims you make. Because there's no evidence of them claiming that.

It's time you accept your predominant East European origins. Maybe it came from swarthy Albanians ( not necessarily slavic )

Genetic evidence

" Genetic findings in 2012 suggest the Romani originated in northwestern India and migrated as a group.[113][114][135] According to the study, the ancestors of present scheduled tribes and scheduled caste populations of northern India, traditionally referred to collectively as the Ḍoma, are the likely ancestral populations of modern European Roma.[136] In December 2012, additional findings appeared to confirm the "Roma came from a single group that left northwestern India about 1,500 years ago."[114] They reached the Balkans about 900 years ago[113] and then spread throughout Europe. The team found that, despite some isolation, the Roma were "genetically similar to other Europeans."[113][114] "


" Genetic research published in European Journal of Human Genetics "has revealed that over 70% of males belong to a single lineage that appears unique to the Roma."[137] "

" Genetic evidence supports the medieval migration from India. The Romani have been described as "a conglomerate of genetically isolated founder populations,"[138] while a number of common Mendelian disorders among Romanies from all over Europe indicates "a common origin and founder effect."[138][139] "

[Mortimer]

Show me this academia claims you make. Because there's no evidence of them claiming that.

It's time you accept your predominant East European origins. Maybe it came from swarthy Albanians ( not necessarily slavic )

Genetic evidence

" Genetic findings in 2012 suggest the Romani originated in northwestern India and migrated as a group.[113][114][135] According to the study, the ancestors of present scheduled tribes and scheduled caste populations of northern India, traditionally referred to collectively as the Ḍoma, are the likely ancestral populations of modern European Roma.[136] In December 2012, additional findings appeared to confirm the "Roma came from a single group that left northwestern India about 1,500 years ago."[114] They reached the Balkans about 900 years ago[113] and then spread throughout Europe. The team found that, despite some isolation, the Roma were "genetically similar to other Europeans."[113][114] "


" Genetic research published in European Journal of Human Genetics "has revealed that over 70% of males belong to a single lineage that appears unique to the Roma."[137] "

" Genetic evidence supports the medieval migration from India. The Romani have been described as "a conglomerate of genetically isolated founder populations,"[138] while a number of common Mendelian disorders among Romanies from all over Europe indicates "a common origin and founder effect."[138][139] "

that roma are similar to other europeans is misleading, just like ancient egyptians "were related to europeans, levantines and anatolians" and that misleads people to think they were like bubba the redneck, but they were likely predominantly swarthy northafricans and similar to modern day palestinians etc. also in some studies it says "upper castes are similar to europeans while lower castes are similar to asians" (i read that o-ton) but not even upper castes look like europeans. those genetic studies are misleading, but discrimination based on race is real. also politically roma are allied with indians.

[RN97]

The Yamnaya were of significant ANE ancestry meaning they are partially Mongoloid influence. Are you telling me you're okay with that nonsense ?

ANE is ancient north Eurasian, not mongoloid. The IE that basically conquered and brought their civilization and language to India probably were like Yamnaya genetically.

[ButlerKing]

ANE is ancient north Eurasian, not mongoloid. The IE that basically conquered and brought their civilization and language to India probably were like Yamnaya genetically.



It looks pretty Mongoloid to me. ANE reachest highest frequencies in Kets, Selkups and it's also higher in Caucasus region where the people are not Indo-European speakers.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tKgMr5w_FIs/VfWL_Dk0d0I/AAAAAAAADb4/x67i8I5mWNw/s1600/ANE_K8.png


You wish that was the case wasn't it ? But oldest origin of Indo-European language and the symbols, Sanskrit all originated from India. The distribution of R1a originated from Northern India and spread to the west..

[RN97]

It looks pretty Mongoloid to me. ANE reachest highest frequencies in Kets, Selkups and it's also higher in Caucasus region where the people are not Indo-European speakers.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tKgMr5w_FIs/VfWL_Dk0d0I/AAAAAAAADb4/x67i8I5mWNw/s1600/ANE_K8.png


You wish that was the case wasn't it ? But oldest origin of Indo-European language and the symbols, Sanskrit all originated from India. The distribution of R1a originated from Northern India and spread to the west..

Central Asia used to be population by folks like Yamnaya, that's why they have such high ANE, it's steppe derived basically. The east asians make those people look a lot more mong-looking
compare a Selkup with a Korean
http://i.imgur.com/68URN3k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MXjT30d.jpg

Even I have significant ANE

Ancient_North_Eurasian 16.09
Basal-rich 31.12
East_Eurasian 0.27
Oceanian 0
Southeast_Asian 0.34
Sub-Saharan 0
Villabruna-related 52.18

ANE peaks in central asia basically so I wonder why...... Note that indo-Europeans were not above 50% ANE and that's only yamnaya (BTW N. Indians have more than Europeans). I haven't researched a lot into this mainly because I don't really care. However it seems that it's virtually impossible that the PIE haplogroups originated in south Asia.

[ButlerKing]

Central Asia used to be population by folks like Yamnaya, that's why they have such high ANE, it's steppe derived basically. The east asians make those people look a lot more mong-looking
compare a Selkup with a Korean
http://i.imgur.com/68URN3k.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MXjT30d.jpg

Even I have significant ANE


ANE peaks in central asia basically so I wonder why...... Note that indo-Europeans were not above 50% ANE and that's only yamnaya (BTW N. Indians have more than Europeans). I haven't researched a lot into this mainly because I don't really care. However it seems that it's virtually impossible that the PIE haplogroups originated in south Asia.



You're mostly likely looking at the products of Selkups and Russia's mixed the same is with the Kets. Most of the the Selkups, Kets European DNA came from recent marriage with Russians but the Russian's ANE admixture is not even half as much as Selkups, Kets. Apart from that Chinese, Japanese, Burmese, Southeast Asian have higher percent of ANE admixture than a few South European and some Caucasian groups from the middle east. If we follow the the Idea that ANE is not Mongoloid than would mean most Mongoloids are mixed.

I don't want to think ANE as belonging to any race

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=pqosAAAAYAAJ&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=1&imgtk=AFLRE704VoOSepcuGXIjx2-lA0pgrcLSsBch3M1z4gTa8pkqhSR48gP6wSqnbCxsU0SwdKUrd atczJmWRHHQMD2OhQXszGY__HD9WdbkFT_IysViHVEpsys
" Beginning in the 19th century, all social contacts for the Selkups, including marriage, came to be predominantly with Russians "

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=5eEASHGLg3MC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=5&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE73XEaWZnemwR9px-ppD3T10mdsrfQO25HD-ihD5N3Z1v2JrkdMrTY1gqWwS7GNgzpETXVEv8OT9zThwFaDiaH oS0xT89Nqc2HDZCjiMcc1R-utflzLeziS3PQ8yjueL4dtGzooi
" The small population, combined with strict adherence to exogamy, led to a high degree of interethnic marriage. From the 1790s to the 1950s Kets intermarried mainly with Sel'kups. More recently, Ket-Russian marriages have predominated. "

https://books.google.co.uk/books/content?id=CjcpD68fFekC&printsec=frontcover&img=1&zoom=5&edge=curl&imgtk=AFLRE70IFXXtveU0P0_r4zPtcZXHSgcCsxjYyQ_gQ3lb lOKzI5lAmsLDWg5hIXJw1LnjN0hp4xq1gZh-XSZrxuy-qtPDwYkaZjiqDqByah6v-VdFEXds06Qdgro80FbUZJKLpRlR6Rj2
" with a increasing number of mixed russian-ket marriages: two out of every three metises consider themselves to be Ket's"

There are Selkups who's Europeans admixture reaches nearly 0%

The oldest symbols, language, DNA is from South Asia. The PIE origin is still debated but more and more evidence are pointing to South Asia.

[ButlerKing]

ANE peaks in central asia basically so I wonder why...... Note that indo-Europeans were not above 50% ANE and that's only yamnaya (BTW N. Indians have more than Europeans). I haven't researched a lot into this mainly because I don't really care. However it seems that it's virtually impossible that the PIE haplogroups originated in south Asia.


READ THIS

Physical characteristics

" The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al.(2014), Mathieson et al. (2015) : they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[24][5] Despite their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.[25] "

It definitely doesn't sound like any Russian, Slavic, Nordics. It sounds more like Indians, Tajiks or maybe Armenian types ( I'm talking about the dark Armenians ones not the light ones ).

Selkups have quite high percent of people with light hair/eyes. Most likely it's admixture is from Slavs or other Uralic groups
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Selkups.jpg


The average Central Asian Tajiks don't look like any pure European I know. If you ask me they even look more like Gypsies with some admixture Mongoloids.

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/122f3d3803f34c9b85a18c4f0c3dfbc6/tajiks-gather-in-the-center-of-somonion-the-administrative-seat-of-d35r8c.jpg

[RN97]

READ THIS

Physical characteristics

" The genetic basis of a number of physical features of the Yamnaya people were ascertained by the ancient DNA study conducted by Haak et al. (2015), Wilde et al.(2014), Mathieson et al. (2015) : they were genetically tall (phenotypic height is determined by both genetics and environmental factors), overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.[24][5] Despite their pastoral lifestyle, there was little evidence of lactase persistence.[25] "

It definitely doesn't sound like any Russian, Slavic, Nordics. It sounds more like Indians, Tajiks or maybe Armenian types ( I'm talking about the dark Armenians ones not the light ones ).

Selkups have quite high percent of people with light hair/eyes. Most likely it's admixture is from Slavs or other Uralic groups
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Selkups.jpg


The average Central Asian Tajiks don't look like any pure European I know. If you ask me they even look more like Gypsies with some admixture Mongoloids.

http://l7.alamy.com/zooms/122f3d3803f34c9b85a18c4f0c3dfbc6/tajiks-gather-in-the-center-of-somonion-the-administrative-seat-of-d35r8c.jpg

How they looked like
yamnaya
http://i.imgur.com/wezhD1z.jpg
Fatyanovo–Balanovo culture
http://i.imgur.com/ttPTihi.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans

According to Keyser et l. (2009), out of 10 human male remains assigned to the Andronovo horizon from the Krasnoyarsk region, nine possessed the R1a Y-chromosome haplogroup and one C-M130 haplogroup (xC3). Furthermore, 90% of the Bronze Age period mtDNA haplogroups were of west Eurasian origin and the study determined that at least 60% of the individuals overall (out of the 26 Bronze and Iron Age human remains' samples of the study that could be tested) had light hair and blue or green eyes.[32][note 5]

Most Europeans had darker hair and skin back in the day. Blue eyes are found among the first HG, but not light skin and hair. Again, the yamnaya were half EHG, not 100% European.

[Antimage]

I might aswell post this to clear some misunderstanding those blonde hair/red hair gypsies that you find in Gypsies couples are generally all 100% pure Gypsies. Gypsies can always produce European looking children with variety of eye/hair color because they are genetically 60-80% European themselves while this is something nearly impossible for South Asian parents. They are two completely different races. REMEMBER THAT !!!

Gypsies DNA = Predominantly European + with some South Asian DNA

South Asian DNA = Pure South Asian DNA.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFfYkQ94MaQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5aCwnnVR-s

That's an albino. I remember there was a fuss about her in the media and they showed her family members and some looked albino and they looked strange, not typically white. Give the kid few years maybe she won't end up looking white. Kids tend to look racially ambiguous more so than adults.

But I agree that gypsies are not south asian.

[Enflamme]

Those are just your superficial opinion, there's no proof nor evidence for it.

And I've seen South Europeans/Middle easterners who are even darker than South Asians and Gypsies. This doesn't mean they are related either.


"South Europeans/Middle easterners"


This dumbass.

People from Middle East are not the same as the Southern Europeans

The features of the southern Europeans are European traits (skull, nose, forehead, etc.). You can buy a fucking caliper and check for yourself.

You have so much a low IQ that I'm sure you do not know what is a caliper and what it means to "take its measurements" using a caliper to then compare its measurements to the different measurements of different European types .

You are really a rat, a kind of monstrous creature with a kippa on your head.

Can you tell the difference? Morooonish goat sucker, fucking tiny skull (= low IQ).

Come here and I'll hit you bastard """English""" extra-european ass!


This thread must be removed and the author must be sentenced to 10 years of forced labor for:

1. To manipulate information to fulfill his agenda;

2. Be a hideous monster;

3. Not knowing what a measurement is and what is a caliper;

4. Have a small skull and, therefore, a weak IQ (eugenics would want you to be sterilize, too);

As a judge, I ask for a heavy sentence for this horrible crime

[Mikula]

:popcorn:

[ButlerKing]

How they looked like
yamnaya
http://i.imgur.com/wezhD1z.jpg
Fatyanovo–Balanovo culture
http://i.imgur.com/ttPTihi.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo-Europeans
According to Keyser et l. (2009), out of 10 human male remains assigned to the Andronovo horizon from the Krasnoyarsk region, nine possessed the R1a Y-chromosome haplogroup and one C-M130 haplogroup (xC3). Furthermore, 90% of the Bronze Age period mtDNA haplogroups were of west Eurasian origin and the study determined that at least 60% of the individuals overall (out of the 26 Bronze and Iron Age human remains' samples of the study that could be tested) had light hair and blue or green eyes.[32][note 5]

Most Europeans had darker hair and skin back in the day. Blue eyes are found among the first HG, but not light skin and hair. Again, the yamnaya were half EHG, not 100% European.


The Andronovo people had mostly light hair/eyes and they also have 10% of Mongoloid admixture on Y-DNA and on mtDNA D or A. They are supposed to be related ancient Indo-Europeans like Tocharians, Scythians, Wusun, Kushans ect However Iranics of Northern Central Asia have light hair/light eyes while the Iranics of Central Asia were swarthy, dark skinned, like on the verge of becoming Indians.


It is said ancient Europeans looked more like Middle easterners/North Indians/Pakistani who migrated from Southern Asia to Europe.
These facial reconstructions are not 100% accurate and they might just look psuedo-Europeans

The first one can pass for this Tajik man once you add him dark skin, black hair, black beards, brown eyes.
http://www.andyworthington.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/muhammadi-davliatov.jpg

The second bust look pseudo-Europeans but even South Asians Dravidians can look pseudo-Europeans once you give them pigmented skin color.
and we don't even know how they exactly look like once have black hair, dark brown eyes and dark skin have been added.

The second bust look Iranoid-Afghan, the people in these picture have similar facial and skeletal features as the second bust. Even if you give second bust blue blue eyes with not very dark skin it would properly end up like the people in this picture
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/bf/c5/95/bfc5952da19c3dab662cc47b3e4d0ea5.jpg

And without the light skin/blue eyes properly end up like this.
https://app.aframe.com/t/c/ea140eed-22f9-4926-a24d-b3c8f681fc21_600.jpeg


Look at Indian American actor Sendhil ramamurthy, it can kind of pass for the person in the second pic
https://phiga.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/sendhil.jpg

Punjabi director Harpreet Singh
http://studystuff4u.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/artworks-000119000232-lletuo-t500x500.jpg

[turbosat]

they are 20-40% European. Not 60-80%. Well there are different estimates but 60-80% is definitely too much. At best 50%. Going by 23andme they are 20-40%. well there are some who are 90% too but they are minority for average its too much. http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?189953-Gypsy-Results-with-pictures&highlight=Gypsy+23andme+results

they could produce white looking children in some rare cases, but they can produce indian looking children much more likely. because "dark" is dominant.

http://www.growweedeasy.com/sites/growweedeasy.com/files/non-mendelian-inheritance.jpg

60% - 80% range is probably correct for different Romany groups going by the genetic studies of them which I have seen, but it would be useful if there were studies on individuals who look more South Asian to see what they are individually.

"indian looking children" - I noticed you quite often tend to consider people "Indian looking" based on their dark skin colour whereas I can distinguish better than you if someone is Indian looking based on their features.

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=turbosat;4507471]60% - 80% range is probably correct for different Romany groups going by the genetic studies of them which I have seen, but it would be useful if there were studies on individuals who look more South Asian to see what they are

I told you i tested and was 60 european that means my family must be half less european since my dad was mostly serb i saw many roma results and no pure gypsy from serbia or balkan is more then 40 only western european ones and part gypsies like me i have like 300 gypsy cousins or more

[turbosat]

[QUOTE=turbosat;4507471]60% - 80% range is probably correct for different Romany groups going by the genetic studies of them which I have seen, but it would be useful if there were studies on individuals who look more South Asian to see what they are

I told you i tested and was 60 european that means my family must be half less european since my dad was mostly serb i saw many roma results and no pure gypsy from serbia or balkan is more then 40 only western european ones and part gypsies like me i have like 300 gypsy cousins or more

Can you post your results again or give a link to where you posted before?
Also can you write down what percentages of European and South Asian you think your mum was? Was your dad close to 100% European?

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=Mortimer;4507475]

Can you post your results again or give a link to where you posted before?
Also can you write down what percentages of European and South Asian you think your mum was? Was your dad close to 100% European?
I posted the results of gypsies with pictures check the link on first page of this site i

[Leto]

I told you i tested and was 60 european that means my family must be half less european since my dad was mostly serb i saw many roma results and no pure gypsy from serbia or balkan is more then 40 only western european ones and part gypsies like me i have like 300 gypsy cousins or more
I think you should have your mother tested, she is fully Romani. That would be very interesting to see. What she would score is probably what an average Serbian Gypsy scores.

[turbosat]

[QUOTE=turbosat;4507496]
I posted the results of gypsies with pictures check the link on first page of this site i

Your father was 3/4 Serb. Lets say he is 75% European and 25% Other (Middle Eastern, South Asian etc.) and your mum lets say is 60% European and 40% Other.

For example. from your father you could have got just 25% European of his 75% Euro, and all his 25% Other (total 50% from father) and from your mum you could have got 35% European out of her 60% Euro, and 15% Other from her 40% Other (total 50% from mum). That would give you 60% European and 40% Other.

Or you could get 50% of your father's European only (none of his Other) and 10% of your mum's European and all her 40% Other. If your mum's 40% Other was all South Asian, you would have 40% South Asian but I know you are actually a much lower percentage of South Asian.
etc.

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=Mortimer;4507923]

Your father was 3/4 Serb. Lets say he is 75% European and 25% Other (Middle Eastern, South Asian etc.) and your mum lets say is 60% European and 40% Other.

For example. from your father you could have got just 25% European of his 75% Euro, and all his 25% Other (total 50% from father) and from your mum you could have got 35% European out of her 60% Euro, and 15% Other from her 40% Other (total 50% from mum). That would give you 60% European and 40% Other.

Or you could get 50% of your father's European only (none of his Other) and 10% of your mum's European and all her 40% Other. If your mum's 40% Other was all South Asian, you would have 40% South Asian but I know you are actually a much lower percentage of South Asian.
etc.
You count my mum who is almost full roma at 60 percent while you count no european for my dads quarter roma now his roma is all noneuropean for you while my mum should be 60 european. Also its flawed what you say that doesnt work like that that i could have inherited all the noneuro of my mum usuaĺly the rule if you are a quarter you are 25 if you are half you are 50. You say some delusional things likely my dad would have been 90 european and my mum 40 and i saw enough results of roma either you didnt saw results of roma

[Mortimer]

I think you should have your mother tested, she is fully Romani. That would be very interesting to see. What she would score is probably what an average Serbian Gypsy scores.

My mum doesnt want to test but i posted results of roma with pictures i saw many roma results

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=Mortimer;4507923]

Your father was 3/4 Serb. Lets say he is 75% European and 25% Other (Middle Eastern, South Asian etc.) and your mum lets say is 60% European and 40% Other.

For example. from your father you could have got just 25% European of his 75% Euro, and all his 25% Other (total 50% from father) and from your mum you could have got 35% European out of her 60% Euro, and 15% Other from her 40% Other (total 50% from mum). That would give you 60% European and 40% Other.

Or you could get 50% of your father's European only (none of his Other) and 10% of your mum's European and all her 40% Other. If your mum's 40% Other was all South Asian, you would have 40% South Asian but I know you are actually a much lower percentage of South Asian.
etc.
Im 20 percent southasian sometimes 25 or even 30 if you count only southindian then im 10 if you count only ancient asi then im 5 you count all the westernasian of roma as european thats flawed where they hundred percent asi and whats with mideastern which is also not european i saw many roma results who are only 20 european.

[Mortimer]

Results of a Bosnian Roma. My mum should score likely like him and my dad would be 85-90% European.

https://s12.postimg.org/syhfi5pr1/Mirsad_Results.jpg
https://s2.postimg.org/6tgxyeyvd/Mirsad_Picturebigpicture.jpg

[turbosat]

[QUOTE=turbosat;4508826]
You count my mum who is almost full roma at 60 percent while you count no european for my dads quarter roma now his roma is all noneuropean for you while my mum should be 60 european. Also its flawed what you say that doesnt work like that that i could have inherited all the noneuro of my mum usuaĺly the rule if you are a quarter you are 25 if you are half you are 50. You say some delusional things likely my dad would have been 90 european and my mum 40 and i saw enough results of roma either you didnt saw results of roma

It was just an example of how it can work. I read it recently, you can get different proportions from each parent's components, but ofc will be 50% in total from each parent.

Even if your father is 90% European, 5% South Asian and 5% something else, and if your mum is 40% European, 30% South Asian and 30% Other or even 60% South Asian, you only have 14.9% South Asian. Your mum is probably at most about 40% South Asian. More likely she is about 25%. I have seen her photo, she is not going to be 60% or 70% South Asian.

When they came from India/Pakistan, if most Roma had 70% South Asian (or ASI or whatever) individually, now generally they will be less than 70%. That's only because they have not mixed totally with non-Roma. They also seem to practice selective breeding and group endogamy, otherwise they would have no South Asian after 1,400 years or so.

Therefore it is possible some individuals might be 60% to 70% South Asian which is why I said it would be good to see test results of those individuals who look more "Dalit" like.

I read quite a few genetic studies of Roma. Those studies by genetic experts are going to be more accurate than 23andme or other similar admixture calculators.

[zarzian]

Some gypsy results on Eurogenes k13:
Admix Results (sorted):
1.


2.


BTW on average gypsies have around 20-25% paleo-European admixture (the unmixed ones) while the average European around 51-53% and the average southeast European around 48% probably from PIE, the average Gujarti for example has around 8-12%

Based on those results the term Turkogypsy makes sense.

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=Mortimer;4509290]

It was just an example of how it can work. I read it recently, you can get different proportions from each parent's components, but ofc will be 50% in total from each parent.

Even if your father is 90% European, 5% South Asian and 5% something else, and if your mum is 40% European, 30% South Asian and 30% Other or even 60% South Asian, you only have 14.9% South Asian. Your mum is probably at most about 40% South Asian. More likely she is about 25%. I have seen her photo, she is not going to be 60% or 70% South Asian.

When they came from India/Pakistan, if most Roma had 70% South Asian (or ASI or whatever) individually, now generally they will be less than 70%. That's only because they have not mixed totally with non-Roma. They also seem to practice selective breeding and group endogamy, otherwise they would have no South Asian after 1,400 years or so.

Therefore it is possible some individuals might be 60% to 70% South Asian which is why I said it would be good to see test results of those individuals who look more "Dalit" like.

I read quite a few genetic studies of Roma. Those studies by genetic experts are going to be more accurate than 23andme or other similar admixture calculators.
I read genetic studies of roma too and 60 to 80 is too much european for roma maybe only for english and welsh roma

[TheForeigner]

[QUOTE=turbosat;4509861]
I read genetic studies of roma too and 60 to 80 is too much european for roma maybe only for english and welsh roma

ButlerKing is just an Indian who is ashamed of having his ethnicity associated with Gypsies.

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=Mortimer;4510058]

ButlerKing is just an Indian who is ashamed of having his ethnicity associated with Gypsies.

Turbosat is worse then butlerking and both are malicious because they twist data.

[Mortimer]

[QUOTE=Mortimer;4509290]

It was just an example of how it can work. I read it recently, you can get different proportions from each parent's components, but ofc will be 50% in total from each parent.

Even if your father is 90% European, 5% South Asian and 5% something else, and if your mum is 40% European, 30% South Asian and 30% Other or even 60% South Asian, you only have 14.9% South Asian. Your mum is probably at most about 40% South Asian. More likely she is about 25%. I have seen her photo, she is not going to be 60% or 70% South Asian.

When they came from India/Pakistan, if most Roma had 70% South Asian (or ASI or whatever) individually, now generally they will be less than 70%. That's only because they have not mixed totally with non-Roma. They also seem to practice selective breeding and group endogamy, otherwise they would have no South Asian after 1,400 years or so.

Therefore it is possible some individuals might be 60% to 70% South Asian which is why I said it would be good to see test results of those individuals who look more "Dalit" like.

I read quite a few genetic studies of Roma. Those studies by genetic experts are going to be more accurate than 23andme or other similar admixture calculators.

If you saw my mums photo you would know she is predominantly indobrachid also sometimes southasian is misleading because even purohit ji is only 30 southasian sometimes on gedmatch depending on ethnic group i can be up to 30 southasian like 70 serbian 30 punjabi since roma are found to be autosomally nw indian i go with nw indian lets say low caste like meghwal then i would be 27 meghwal my mum would be around 60 meghwal on wegene i was 27 sindi and 2 bengali but if you count southindian only for me then im only 10 but thats why your logic is flawed and you twist dat btw i dont say im indian im mixed race and roma

[Hadouken]

here a roma result . I can post more . I hope I am helpful to the discussion



1 West_Asia 23.51
2 SW_Europe 23.34
3 South_Asia 20.76
4 NE_Europe 18.01
5 SW_Asia 9.51
6 Siberia 2.12
7 SE_Asia 0.89
8 Americas 0.8
9 South_Africa 0.52
10 Oceania 0.43
11 NE_Asia 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

1 Romani 3.69
2 Tadjik 19.8
3 Turkish_Aydin 20.17
4 Turkish 20.89
5 Kumyk 21.09
6 Balkar 22
7 Afghan_Pashtun 22.51
8 Turkish_Kayseri 22.58
9 Nogay 22.93
10 Pakistan_Pashtun 23.01
11 Afghan_Uzbeki 23.1
12 Greek_Central 23.52
13 Ashkenazy_Jew 24.23
14 Azerbaijan_Azeri 24.46
15 Pathan 24.57
16 Greek_Thessaly 24.73
17 Dagestan_Azeri 24.81
18 Romanian 24.81
19 Italian_Sicilian 24.89
20 Albanian 24.92

[ButlerKing]

here a roma result . I can post more . I hope I am helpful to the discussion



1 West_Asia 23.51
2 SW_Europe 23.34
3 South_Asia 20.76
4 NE_Europe 18.01
5 SW_Asia 9.51
6 Siberia 2.12
7 SE_Asia 0.89
8 Americas 0.8
9 South_Africa 0.52
10 Oceania 0.43
11 NE_Asia 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

1 Romani 3.69
2 Tadjik 19.8
3 Turkish_Aydin 20.17
4 Turkish 20.89
5 Kumyk 21.09
6 Balkar 22
7 Afghan_Pashtun 22.51
8 Turkish_Kayseri 22.58
9 Nogay 22.93
10 Pakistan_Pashtun 23.01
11 Afghan_Uzbeki 23.1
12 Greek_Central 23.52
13 Ashkenazy_Jew 24.23
14 Azerbaijan_Azeri 24.46
15 Pathan 24.57
16 Greek_Thessaly 24.73
17 Dagestan_Azeri 24.81
18 Romanian 24.81
19 Italian_Sicilian 24.89
20 Albanian 24.92


Only 1/5 related with South Asians and yet people still have nerve to claim they are a South Asian ethnic group. It makes me laugh that these Romanians keep telling gypsies to go back to India.

[Hadouken]

Only 1/5 related with South Asians and yet people still have nerve to claim they are a South Asian ethnic group. It makes me laugh that these Romanians keep telling gypsies to go back to India.

20% is a decent amount tbh

I have seen you trying to southasianify people who have way less south asian than 20% and have nothing to do with south asians even . you cant have it both ways

[TheForeigner]

Only 1/5 related with South Asians and yet people still have nerve to claim they are a South Asian ethnic group. It makes me laugh that these Romanians keep telling gypsies to go back to India.

They also speak an Indo-Aryan language and have different customs and mentality from Europeans. Maybe you should go back to India, since you aren't doing anything in the UK, though I see you still claim to be of British and Irish descent.

[ButlerKing]

They also speak an Indo-Aryan language and have different customs and mentality from Europeans. Maybe you should go back to India, since you aren't doing anything in the UK, though I see you still claim to be of British and Irish descent.

Hey Romanian boy.

Gypsies DNA is are genetically 4/5 Romanian-European + 1/5 South Asian. The Gypsies belong in Romania and they can be very successful if you stop discriminating them and give them a better opportunity to succeed.

Give me a break, your Romanians are not civilized people which is why the west looks down on Romanians migrant workers. The customs and mentality of Romanians/Balkans/East Europeans are different to the west and are often disliked by the west Europeans because you lower their standards of living and are stealing jobs for low wages.

[TheForeigner]

Gypsies are not 4/5 European. They also have Middle Eastern admixture. And there is no need to offend all Romanians and East Europeans, because I criticized you. There are ethnic groups like Pakistanis and blacks who have worse criminals among their ranks than either Gypsies or East Europeans have, but many Brits just kiss their asses, since they are in large part cuckolds.

[ButlerKing]

Gypsies are not 4/5 European. They also have Middle Eastern admixture. And there is no need to offend all Romanians and East Europeans, because I criticized you. There are ethnic groups like Pakistanis and blacks who have worse criminals among their ranks than either Gypsies or East Europeans have, but Brits just kiss their asses, since they are a largely cuckold nation now.

Don't worry man, we all have Middle eastern-like admixture which also exist significant in Romanians

https://images.nature.com/full/nature-assets/nature/journal/v466/n7303/images/nature09103-f3.2.jpg
https://archive.is/DKHuI/dca0f23ddf36902b2582766689115ddb6e9e4952.png