Genetically 100% East Asians with more Caucasian features than Central Asian Turks, Native Americans

[ButlerKing]

Kazakhs/Kyrgyz

Here are what Central Asian Turks Kazakhs/Kyrgyz look like. Who are 70% Mongoloid, 30% Caucasoid ( they could be 60-80% Mongoloid depending on the region )

Kazakhs
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/8f/41/f0/8f41f0b90777efc4673dae737bacafbf--kazakhstan.jpg
Kyrgyz
http://old.ragazine.cc/wp-content/flagallery/kyrgyzstan/071105-3305_barskoonissykkul.jpg

Taiwanese aborigines

Here are what 100% Mongoloid Taiwan aborigines can look like (depending on the tribes) and they have 0% Caucasian admixture

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Yes, I'm talking about indigenous people of Taiwan until the Chinese conquered it and migrate to their land. Various Y-DNA, mtDNA and including atDNA of Taiwanese aborigines and clearly all show 100% Mongoloid/East Eurasian in every study. A lot of them are with mixed Han Chinese but genetically they are still the most purest group in terms of all East Eurasian. Their haplogroup is O and their mtDNA is also typical D, B, F females yet physically they look more Caucasian ( or is it pseudo-caucasian, non-Mongoloid appearance ? ) than any Mongoloid DNA mixed ethnic groups that I've seen. Their morphology appear strongly Caucasian influence.

Depending on which study genetics shows Southeast Asians to be only 77-80% East Eurasians and Central Asian Turks like Kazakhs, Kyrgyz to be 60-80% East Eurasian.. Even Mongolians are East Eurasian less than these guys. Eastern Mongols; Khalkas, Inner Mongolians are over 93-100% East Eurasian where as western Mongols; Oirats, Tuvanians, Khoton are only 82-85% East Eurasian but groups like Atayal have 100% East Eurasian like all Taiwan aborigine groups. Many of the tribes look typical East Asian/Southeast Asian ( due to marrying Chinese men and being mongoloid looking to begin with ) but many other tribes look like half Caucasian to almost pure Caucasian.


(Note: If you want more charts like these I can show you but so far this is the best one I've seen )

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[ButlerKing]

Physical appearance

" The Atayal are physically visible from the Han Chinese of Taiwan.[10] Intermarriage with Chinese also produced a significant number of Atayal-Chinese mixed offspring and celebrities such as Vivian Hsu, Vic Zhou, Yuming Lai, Kao Chin Su-mei. "

( Note: I'm posting a lot of pictures here because I want you to understand what I'm talking about )

Pure Atayal female on the left, Chinese-Atayal female mix on the right

http://www.intmath.com/blog/wp-content/travel/Taiwan2006_547_sm.jpg
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These aboriginal Taiwanese looks way more like Eurasians than a Kazakh/Kyrgyz

Kyrgyz women
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2203/1769876275_a8c9e0a73e.jpg

Now look at the Taiwanese native women.

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[ButlerKing]

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[ButlerKing]

This guy could easily pass for your Japanese with Jomon admixture no problem.

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Funny how these a lot of them could pass for those Chindians.

http://www.spacedaily.com/images-lg/taiwan-indigenous-protest-afp-lg.jpg
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[zhaoyun]

Just because an Asian has a high bridged nose, it doesn't mean they are Caucasian. I have a high bridged nose and I don't look Caucasian.

BTW, the Taiwanese aboriginals have sunken eye sockets because of their Malaysian blood. They look Malayid to me, not Caucasoid.

[ButlerKing]

Just because an Asian has a high bridged nose, it doesn't mean they are Caucasian. I have a high bridged nose and I don't look Caucasian.

BTW, the Taiwanese aboriginals have sunken eye sockets because of their Malaysian blood. They look Malayid to me, not Caucasoid.

It's not about the high bridged nose. I've seen many Asian male/female celebrities in Hollywood with very high bridge noses but their faces still look Asian as heck. You average Malaysian usually just look like a darker version of the Vietnamese.

I noticed a lot of them look like pseudo-resemblance of Chinese-Indian mix ( that sometimes even products mixbreeds that look like half European/ half East Asians )

The products of Chinese and North Indian marriage and the child ends up looking like a product of half European/half Asian.
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This women looks half European and she's Taiwanese aborigine. She looks more Eurasian than some Eurasians I've seen.
https://i1.read01.com/uploads/0C0pIQ0R.jpg

[Kawaiine]

Stupid thread

[zhaoyun]

It's not about the high bridged nose. I've seen many Asian male/female celebrities in Hollywood with very high bridge noses but their faces still look Asian as heck. You average Malaysian usually just look like a darker version of the Vietnamese.

I noticed a lot of them look like pseudo-resemblance of Chinese-Indian mix ( that sometimes even products mixbreeds that look like half European/ half East Asians )

The products of Chinese and North Indian marriage and the child ends up looking like a product of half European/half Asian.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/73/f3/df/73f3df989d73e0e339b8e5ee0909bd63.jpgp

This women looks half European.
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She doesn't, she looks East Asian.

Also, the Taiwanese aboriginals you posted look like they have Malayid/Polynesian influence, which gives their eye sockets a sunken look. Perhaps this may parallel some Caucasoid features, but they are hardly a "Caucasian feature", many groups have them.

Take this Malaysian tribesman for example.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fd/32/cd/fd32cd6eafa5e338d4eae415a06a3435--sabah-borneo-malaysia.jpg

[ButlerKing]

She doesn't, she looks East Asian.

Also, the Taiwanese aboriginals you posted look like they have Malayid/Polynesian influence, which gives their eye sockets a sunken look. Perhaps this may parallel some Caucasoid features, but they are hardly a "Caucasian feature", many groups have them. There also sems to be Melanesian mtDNA at 2-6% and Melanesians Y-DNA at 0.2-5%

Take this Malaysian tribesman for example.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/fd/32/cd/fd32cd6eafa5e338d4eae415a06a3435--sabah-borneo-malaysia.jpg

We don't know for that for sure. Using Malaysians as example is bad one. Is genetically proven most Southern Southeast Asians have 10-20% South Asian mtDNA including Malays with a additional 9-11% Negrito mtDNA.

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[zhaoyun]

We don't know for that for sure. Using Malaysians as example is bad one. Is genetically proven most Southern Southeast Asians have 10-20% South Asian mtDNA including Malays with a additional 9-11% Negrito mtDNA.

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Malay Muslims have more South Asian DNA, because of admixture with Indian Muslims, such as Mahathir Mohamed.

Malaysian tribals however, probably have very little admixture.

[ButlerKing]

Malay Muslims have more South Asian DNA, because of admixture with Indian Muslims, such as Mahathir Mohamed.

Malaysian tribals however, probably have very little admixture.

No, even Malaysian tribals shows Melanesian/Mongoloid admixture of different degrees. The people of Sundaland are the most mixed Southeast Asians however most of these mixture predates from long time ago.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1876738/table/TB2/

Melanesian maternal DNA = Q, P, R22 (or R14), M21a, M27, M28, M29
Polynesian maternal DNA = B4a1a1 ( sign of partial Australoid admixture)
Melanesian paternal DNA = M, S, C2 ( K-M9 is not necessarily Australoid)

Southeast Asians usually have moderate frequencies of Melanesian mtDNA with little Australoid Y-DNA.

Western Austronesians

Malaysians have 7.3% Melanesian maternal mtDNA, 2.9% Melanesian Y-DNA

Javanese 2.2% Melanesian mtDNA, 2.2% polynesian mtDNA, 3.8% Australoid Y-DNA.

Southern Borneo have 5.5% Melanesian mtDNA, 1.3% polynesian mtDNA , 15% Australoid Y-DNA

Balinese have 8.4% Melanesian mtDNA, 2.2% Australoid Y-DNA.

In the western side of East Indonesia

Lombok have 11.4% Melanesian mtDNA R22, 2.3% Polynesian mtDNA, 6% Australoid Y-DNA.

Sulawesi 3.8% Melanesian mtDNA, 3.8% Polynesian mtDNA, 8% Australoid Y-DNA.
In west sulawesi polynesian mtDNA is 11% and Melanesian Y-DNA is 12.5%.

Eastern side of Eastern Indonesia islands

Melanesian Y-DNA is 50-80% and Melanesian mtDNA is 10-35%
Mongoloid Y-DNA is 11-27% and Mongoloid mtDNA is 60-70%
Polynesian mtDNA is 2%-14%

Alor Melanesian mtDNA 28.9%, Polynesian mtDNA 2.2%
Ambon Melanesian mtDNA 11.6%, Polynesian mtDNA 14%

Non-Austronesian but with Australoid genes.

Thais mtDNA Melanesian/Negrito 11.9% and 0% Melanesian/Negrito Y-DNA 0%

Polynesians

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3035714/

There is no pure polynesian who is mongoloid and australoid but genetically they are closer to mongoloid. Polynesians genetics is more complicated than first though, there 's no doubt that the polynesian motif B41a1a1 has an Austronesian-mongoloid origin, however the problem is it this motif seems to have gone through an huge genetic drift and it's not found in Taiwan aborigines and have been found dated 6000-8000 years ago in the Bismarck Archipelago rarther than Taiwan 4000 years ago, the fact that B4a is found in extremmely high frequencies (90%) in Polynesia compare to Taiwan aborigines (45%) means only an very few Austronesian women spreaded this DNA and the hybrid population later gone through an genetic drift. The Polynesian are maternally East Asian and Paternally Melanesian in genetics however since B4a1a1a dated in Melanesia much longer than Taiwan this would than mean Polynesians were actually not result of Austronesian Asian women mating with Papuan melanesian men. However recent markers from taiwanese aborigines admixture in Polynesians such as B4a, E, M and O3, O1a no doubt proof of Austronesian expansion.

New Guinea

Austronesian East Asian Y-DNA 3.2 - 13.1%
Austronesian/Polynesian mtDNA 20-40%

West Papua


0% Austronesian and Polynesian mtDNA.

1.1% Astronesian East Asian Y-DNA in West Papua

Interestingly 3.0% O2a has been found in western Papua province known as the bird eye, which maybe due to Indonesian military occupation of West Papua since 1965 or due to the Majapahit empire rule for few hundred years.

[ButlerKing]

Every DNA study had shown Taiwanese aborigine have 0% of non-Mongoloid admixture. They are the purest Mongoloids but are also the ones who don't look look that Mongoloids.

https://robertlindsay.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/chartc.jpg

[ButlerKing]

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[Nomad]

Stupid thread

I don't think so lady.It's a discussion and that depends on your opinion.

[Hashoeva]

This women looks half European and she's Taiwanese aborigine. She looks more Eurasian than some Eurasians I've seen.
https://i1.read01.com/uploads/0C0pIQ0R.jpg

wow she is so beautiful! she looks like uyghur or a chinese - south-european mix. who is she?

[XenophobicPrussian]

You're not wrong, but keep in mind this isn't how the average Taiwanese Aboriginal looks. They're just outliers that don't exist among other Mongoloids. I think most of them still have the typical Mongoloid look. For a group that's probably even less admixed than Taiwanese Aboriginals, Igorot people in the Phillipines also have a majority Mongoloid look, and they're genetically identical to Ayatal/Ami Aboriginals with no South Asian/Oceanian admixture.

Not really surprising Mongoloids in a tropical/sub-tropical climate would start losing and selecting against the northern adapted phenotype of Mongoloids.

[ButlerKing]

You're not wrong, but keep in mind this isn't how the average Taiwanese Aboriginal looks. They're just outliers that don't exist among other Mongoloids. I think most of them still have the typical Mongoloid look. For a group that's probably even less admixed than Taiwanese Aboriginals, Igorot people in the Phillipines also have a majority Mongoloid look, and they're genetically identical to Ayatal/Ami Aboriginals with no South Asian/Oceanian admixture.

Not really surprising Mongoloids in a tropical/sub-tropical climate would start losing and selecting against the northern adapted phenotype of Mongoloids.

The average Taiwanese aborigine look Mongoloid for two reasons. One is because some tribes are morphigical more Mongoloid and the other reason is because some have a much higher level of admixed with Chinese. How ever consider the fact they don't have any European or western haplogroup, no south Asian or even australoid haplogroups (like negrito and melanesian ) one need to ask what gave them their Caucasoid like head structure. I mean look at Thais and Malaysians genetic for example.

Thais genetics

Thais are 7-12% South Asian Caucasian and 7-12% Negrito and Veddoid admixed on autosomal DNA

On haplogroups: Thais have like 9% to 15% Negrito mtDNA. 5-10% South Asian Y-DNA, 5-10% South Asian mtDNA, 0% Negrito Y-DNA.

Malaysian genetics

Genetically they are also around 7-12% Caucasian and 7-12% Negroid , Vedodid, Melanesian on autosomal DNA

On haplogroups: Malaysians also have 7% Negrito mtDNA, 3% Melanesian mtDNA , 8-11% for both South Asian mtDNA, Y-DNA. 0% Negrito Y-DNA but 2.3% Melanesian Y-DNA.


BUT NONE OF THEM CAN EVER LOOK LIKE THESE WHO SHOWS 0% ANY EUROPEAN HAPLOGROUP NOT EVEN ANY SOUTH ASIAN OR AUSTRALOID HAPLOGROUP TYPES.

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[Hudayar]

Plastic surgery stronk

[ButlerKing]

Plastic surgery stronk

No is not. They are just a weird group of people with morphogical similarities with Caucasoid but having no admixture from Western Eurasia's Caucasians or South Asian Caucasians.

Even if it's not Caucasoid they still look pseudo-Caucasoid. The Australoid people got pseudo-Caucasoid head structure but Southeast Asians do look like that despite having admixture with these population, negrito have different headstructure from Mongoloid and Southeast Asians have this admixture in their DNA too but even they too don't look more less Mongoloid than these Taiwanese aborigines. This clearly proves you don't need to have non-Mongoloid admixture to look something like that while Southeast Asian have haplogroups from Caucasian, Australoid, Negrito but still look more Mongoloid (could also be because millions of Chinese migrants and records shows the majority of the marriages being Chinese intermarried with Southeast Asian local females, with minority being Southeast men married with Chinese females due to the fact there were far more male Chinese migrants involved )

[zhaoyun]

Plastic surgery stronk

Taiwanese aborigines don't get plastic surgery, are you serious? The only Asians with a high rate of surgery are the Koreans and they definitely don't get it to look like aborigines.

[Hudayar]

Taiwanese aborigines don't get plastic surgery, are you serious? The only Asians with a high rate of surgery are the Koreans and they definitely don't get it to look like aborigines.

I was just baiting chill :D :D :D :D :D

[Sora]

Yes. Sometimes Mongoloid genes can be weak. For example: Amerindian genes. Also Taiwanese aborgines have pseudo-Mongoloid appearance. So, not Caucasoid looking at all.

Butler, also I invite you to this discussion: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?241992-Why-Notheast-Indians-look-more-Asian-than-other-Indians

[1R0N M4N XL]

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