Post your shared segments with Iron Age Montenegrin RISE596

[Voskos]

Gedmatch ID of RISE596 (uploaded by mlukas) : M462154

1. Log in on Gedmatch
2.One-to-one compare
3.Enter your Gedmatch ID and that of RISE596 in kit1 and kit2 .(order doesn't matter)
4.Type 50 in ''SNP count minimum threshold to be considered a matching segment''
5.Type 2 in ''Minimum segment cM size to be included in total''.
6.Click Submit.
7.Once you have the result, post your largest segment and total segments shared .

[Lek]

Seems very Northern and fresh off the north, like a steppe?

[Voskos]

Seems very Northern and fresh off the north, like a steppe?

very whg and steppe shifted, even though the quality of the genome doesn't seem very good.

[Lek]

very whg and steppe shifted, even though the quality of the genome doesn't seem very good.

Yeah its unmixed it seems and pre Ilyrian/Pre Thracian. Very Northern.

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 42.02
2 Eastern_Euro 29.72
3 Baltic 21.76
4 North_Sea 3.22
5 Sub-Saharan 1.88
6 Northeast_African 1.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 26.97
2 Estonian_Polish 27.04
3 Belorussian 27.9
4 Polish 28.09
5 Southwest_Russian 28.46
6 Kargopol_Russian 28.57
7 Austrian 28.63
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 28.8
9 South_Polish 29.84
10 Croatian 30.19
11 Southwest_Finnish 30.6
12 La_Brana-1 30.63
13 Lithuanian 30.72
14 Erzya 30.89
15 East_Finnish 30.91
16 Estonian 31.55
17 Ukrainian 31.89
18 East_German 32
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 32.63
20 Finnish 32.72

[Voskos]

Yeah its unmixed it seems and pre Ilyrian/Pre Thracian. Very Northern.

K15

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 42.02
2 Eastern_Euro 29.72
3 Baltic 21.76
4 North_Sea 3.22
5 Sub-Saharan 1.88
6 Northeast_African 1.4

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 26.97
2 Estonian_Polish 27.04
3 Belorussian 27.9
4 Polish 28.09
5 Southwest_Russian 28.46
6 Kargopol_Russian 28.57
7 Austrian 28.63
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 28.8
9 South_Polish 29.84
10 Croatian 30.19
11 Southwest_Finnish 30.6
12 La_Brana-1 30.63
13 Lithuanian 30.72
14 Erzya 30.89
15 East_Finnish 30.91
16 Estonian 31.55
17 Ukrainian 31.89
18 East_German 32
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 32.63
20 Finnish 32.72

post your results bro. pretty sure you will share segments with them.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 0.0 cM
(2228) No shared DNA segments found

3126 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Voskos]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 0.0 cM
(2228) No shared DNA segments found

3126 SNPs used for this comparison.

nothing surprising considering Illyrians never settled as far as Portugal.

Any others willing to post their results?

[Dibran]

23abdne:

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
5 96,083,069 128,046,772 27.3 56
6 130,589,028 163,207,269 43.9 72
7 48,634,183 105,380,083 45.0 74
Largest segment = 45.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 116.2 cM

LivingDNA:

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
3 22,958,156 139,604,812 101.1 65
Largest segment = 101.1 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 101.1 cM

[Voskos]

...

thanks for contributing . this is my result for comparison (I'm from Crete);

Largest segment = 29.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 75.9 cM
3 matching segments

[Dibran]

My Albanian friend from Montenegro has a stronger match than me.


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 80,504,964 116,824,262 35.8 77
13 76,710,863 113,300,003 57.5 65
22 15,644,904 41,795,758 52.1 59
Largest segment = 57.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 145.4 cM

[Dibran]

thanks for contributing . this is my result for comparison (I'm from Crete);

Largest segment = 29.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 75.9 cM
3 matching segments


Seems further south it fades out. Makes sense, considering my Albanian friend from Montenegro has a larger segment match.

[Jana]

Largest segment = 51.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 260.6 cM
7 matching segments

[Dibran]

Largest segment = 51.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 260.6 cM
7 matching segments

Nice. Strong match. At least compared to ours lol.

[RN97]

Largest segment = 51.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 221.3 cM
5 matching segments

[MysteriousWays]

I'm intermediate in the ones thus far.

Largest segment = 46.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 197.5 cM
5 matching segments

[Dick]

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 0.0 cM
(2228) No shared DNA segments found

thank god I'm not illyrian

[Era]

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 0.0 cM
(2228) No shared DNA segments found

thank god I'm not illyrian

Me neither apparently :rolleyes:

[Kamal900]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 48.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 230.9 cM
7 matching segments

6967 SNPs used for this comparison.

[MysteriousWays]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 48.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 230.9 cM
7 matching segments

6967 SNPs used for this comparison.

Quite interesting...Any explanation for this? I'm a bit surprised, given the particular results of this sample.

[Voskos]

Me neither apparently :rolleyes:

try lowering the threshold from 50 to 40 or even lower. it's probably just a coincidence

[Kamal900]

Quite interesting...Any explanation for this? I'm a bit surprised, given the particular results of this sample.

I seriously have no clue, lol.

[Voskos]

Quite interesting...Any explanation for this? I'm a bit surprised, given the particular results of this sample.

maybe this sample has increased Caucasus hunter gatherer (of yamnaya origin) which makes it share high with Gilgamesh and you.also, mediterranean connection.

[Dick]

Me neither apparently :rolleyes:

I was joking. I got 130cm or something

[Voskos]

Comparison with LBK Stuttgart:

Comparing Kit F999916 (LBK, Stuttgart, 7ky) and M462154 (RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age)

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
7 71,223,052 94,261,656 21.9 65
9 93,299,295 110,422,763 17.2 71
9 116,049,774 132,620,722 22.8 67
10 10,621,850 21,325,605 19.0 57
13 35,721,765 52,482,361 19.9 74
13 78,259,078 97,753,815 19.1 53
22 25,440,259 40,481,501 23.7 57
Largest segment = 23.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 143.5 cM
7 matching segments

9165 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Dick]

Comparison with LBK Stuttgart:

Comparing Kit F999916 (LBK, Stuttgart, 7ky) and M462154 (RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age)

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
7 71,223,052 94,261,656 21.9 65
9 93,299,295 110,422,763 17.2 71
9 116,049,774 132,620,722 22.8 67
10 10,621,850 21,325,605 19.0 57
13 35,721,765 52,482,361 19.9 74
13 78,259,078 97,753,815 19.1 53
22 25,440,259 40,481,501 23.7 57
Largest segment = 23.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 143.5 cM
7 matching segments

9165 SNPs used for this comparison.


Mlukas said the sample had low snps though.

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 48.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 230.9 cM
7 matching segments

6967 SNPs used for this comparison.

:D

Ancient Arabic Illyrian.

[Voskos]

Mlukas said the sample had low snps though.

yeah. it's not a very good one.

[Lek]

post your results bro. pretty sure you will share segments with them.

Nope.

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 0.0 cM
No shared X-DNA segments found

Comparison took 0.01454 seconds.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Number of snps used is awfully low, no wonder Central african shows up in k36 but anyways we can easily say that this individual has come straight out of steppe.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 7.0 cM

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 7 cM = 0.0 cM
(2228) No shared DNA segments found

6944 SNPs used for this comparison.

Can someone interpret this results for me as I compare him/her with mine kit.

[Dibran]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 500 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 250 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 7.0 cM

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 7 cM = 0.0 cM
(2228) No shared DNA segments found

6944 SNPs used for this comparison.

Can someone interpret this results for me as I compare him/her with mine kit.


May be too high s threshold. That's why it's telling you no match. Try running at 40 min SNP threshold with 1 cm.

[Peterski]

This Montenegrin is a 23andMe kit. I tested with FTDNA and they are using a different panel of SNPs than 23andMe, so I suppose that I would share even more segments if also I had a 23andMe kit.

Only 7K SNPs were used in this comparison:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 41.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 167.1 cM
6 matching segments

6952 SNPs used for this comparison.

==========

PS: But this is a low coverage (low quality) ancient sample.

[Lek]

This Montenegrin is a 23andMe kit. I tested with FTDNA and they are using a different panel of SNPs than 23andMe, so I suppose that I would share even more segments if also I had a 23andMe kit.

Only 7K SNPs were used in this comparison:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 41.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 167.1 cM
6 matching segments

6952 SNPs used for this comparison.

==========

PS: But this is a low coverage (low quality) ancient sample.

Yeah. I only tested with ftdna too.

I dont even know if I did it correct.

People with higher step should def match. This isnt really an Ilyrian but more pre that brought steppe admixture while Balkans is still more neolithic.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

May be too high s threshold. That's why it's telling you no match. Try running at 40 min SNP threshold with 1 cm.

This is the part when I get lost in genetics, I don't even know what the fuck cM means? :D

[Coolguy1]

Largest segment = 31.1 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 100.9 cM
4 matching segments

6982 SNPs used for this comparison.

Does this tool use IBD sharing or something?

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Yeah. I only tested with ftdna too.

I dont even know if I did it correct.

People with higher step should def match. This isnt really an Ilyrian but more pre that brought steppe admixture while Balkans is still more neolithic.

I don't think we are doing it wrong my nigga it's just that we are tested in ftdna which use different snps and most importantly has low quality coverage which basically tells little if nothing at all.

[Dibran]

This Montenegrin is a 23andMe kit. I tested with FTDNA and they are using a different panel of SNPs than 23andMe, so I suppose that I would share even more segments if also I had a 23andMe kit.

Only 7K SNPs were used in this comparison:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 41.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 167.1 cM
6 matching segments

6952 SNPs used for this comparison.

==========

PS: But this is a low coverage (low quality) ancient sample.



Makes sense. If you look at my post in the first page. My 23 matches more.

[Lek]

I don't think we are doing it wrong my nigga it's just that we are tested in ftdna which use different snps and most importantly has low quality coverage which basically tells little if nothing at all.

Yeah , even mongrel who is Cretan got matches and even that levant guy. something skewed.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I think I should match with this nigga, I are the steppest so was this fucker. :p

[Lek]

I think I should match with this nigga, I are the steppest so was this fucker. :p

I beat you all on k36. Lets get real nigga.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Yeah , even mongrel who is Cretan got matches and even that levant guy. something skewed.

We truly need a high quality samples of bronze age & iron age from Balkans and compare with today population, we had a supposed thracian sample with 25% ssa makes you think they were fucking quadroons and not indo-europeans from steppe.

[Voskos]

Nope.

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 0.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 0.0 cM
No shared X-DNA segments found

Comparison took 0.01454 seconds.

decrease threshold from 50 to 40 and see if you get matches.if not use 30.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I beat you all on k36. Lets get real nigga.

Oh you mean the tool that made northern Europeans almost pure yamnaya living descendants, no disrespect to litvin but tool was hugely misleading.

Steppe k10 is more accurate but certainly not perfect either, no calculator or autosomal test is perfect.

[Voskos]

Largest segment = 31.1 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 100.9 cM
4 matching segments

6982 SNPs used for this comparison.

Does this tool use IBD sharing or something?

kind of. but it's not very reliable since it's only one ancient individual and the sample is not of the best quality apparently.

[Voskos]

Yeah , even mongrel who is Cretan got matches and even that levant guy. something skewed.

I get less than Albanians so it does compute after all.

the main reason some people might not get matches is the fact it compares less than 10k SNPs so the probability of matching it is too low.

[Lek]

I get less than Albanians so it does compute after all.

the main reason some people might not get matches is the fact it compares less than 10k SNPs so the probability of matching it is too low.

Ylla got like 14 matching segments and she uses probably 23andme i think so i think its the ftdna data that is the problem.

Now this made me curious to know what i would get as i score high montenegro on k36 etc

[Lek]

Oh you mean the tool that made northern Europeans almost pure yamnaya living descendants, no disrespect to litvin but tool was hugely misleading.

Steppe k10 is more accurate but certainly not perfect either, no calculator or autosomal test is perfect.

They are heavily steppe though

[Era]

How sure are you this is a Montenegro Iron Age sample? The fact that Gilgamesh shares more than all of us with him makes this unlikely.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Ylla got like 14 matching segments and she uses probably 23andme i think so i think its the ftdna data that is the problem.

Now this made me curious to know what i would get as i score high montenegro on k36 etc

based on low quality scores, this guy/girl is nothing like montenegrin.

[Voskos]

Ylla got like 14 matching segments and she uses probably 23andme i think so i think its the ftdna data that is the problem.

Now this made me curious to know what i would get as i score high montenegro on k36 etc

I used ftdna too, but I only got 3 segments. Like I said it compares around 10000 SNPs only when your raw data file consists of 700000 SNPs. so the biggest part of your raw data gets excluded from the comparison.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

They are heavily steppe though

I know that's why they score high steppe in steppe k10 but clearly shouldn't score around 80% steppe, that's beyond ridiculous %.

[Jana]

So far in this thread I share highest with that Montenegrin :)

[Kamal900]

Anyway, can someone explain why me and Feiichy share more segments than others?

[Kamal900]

So far in this thread I share highest with that Montenegrin :)

That makes both of us:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 48.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 230.9 cM
7 matching segments

6967 SNPs used for this comparison.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Ylla got like 14 matching segments and she uses probably 23andme i think so i think its the ftdna data that is the problem.

Now this made me curious to know what i would get as i score high montenegro on k36 etc

Logically and understandably you should have more matching segment with Iron Age montenegrin given you're more steppe than her, testing companies here are what making the difference however.

[Jana]

That makes both of us:
Yes, but I have bit higher than you, 260. You come second, amazing :D
He has enourmously high steppe and northeast European, but also some neolithic, so don't see why you shouldn't match him/her


Population
Amerindian 2.74
Ancestor -
Steppe 31.53
Indian -
Arctic -
Australian -
Caucasian -
EastAfrican -
NorthEastEuropean 37.15
NearEast -
Neolithic 24.79
NorthAfrican -
Oceanic -
Siberian 3.78
SouthEastAsian -
Subsaharian -

[Wrong]

My Albanian friend from Montenegro has a stronger match than me.


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 80,504,964 116,824,262 35.8 77
13 76,710,863 113,300,003 57.5 65
22 15,644,904 41,795,758 52.1 59
Largest segment = 57.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 145.4 cM



Mine got higher, the sample is low on SNPs though and I will take it with a grain of salt.


<tbody>
Chr
Start Location
End Location
Centimorgans (cM)
SNPs


1
88,512,511
108,210,506
17.4
69


1
223,183,636
236,017,054
21.5
55


2
160,756,132
181,053,397
19.9
62


6
21,184,027
32,760,559
10.2
76


8
6,715,708
21,420,713
24.0
77


10
18,533,131
36,721,157
19.4
65


12
46,228,296
64,964,082
18.0
59


12
83,951,822
101,124,362
17.1
51


13
35,299,731
68,286,109
27.2
110


15
34,836,718
52,786,056
16.8
57


21
27,944,136
40,458,027
21.6
54

</tbody>
Largest segment = 27.2 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 213.1 cM

[Lek]

So far in this thread I share highest with that Montenegrin :)

An Albanian girl got more than both you and gilgamesh... interesting.

[Jana]

I would like to see how some members like Not a Cop who is northern East Slav match this sample, it would be very interesting.

[Lek]

Logically and understandably you should have more matching segment with Iron Age montenegrin given you're more steppe than her, testing companies here are what making the difference however.

Yeah but this thing seems fresh off DA Steppes hence getting slav and lithuanian german top country matches where steppe is higher... but i will try what mongrel said.

[Wrong]

How sure are you this is a Montenegro Iron Age sample? The fact that Gilgamesh shares more than all of us with him makes this unlikely.
It is low on SNPs. So many idiots in this thread taking this literally, it has West African in it and other junk DNA.

This sample might aswell be 50% wrong autosomally.

[Jana]

An Albanian girl got more than both you and gilgamesh... interesting.
Who ?

[Fustan]

Largest segment = 47.8 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 144.6 cM

[Jana]

It is low on SNPs. So many idiots in this thread taking this literally, it has West African in it and other junk DNA.
This sample might aswell be 50% wrong autosomally.
It is pretty clean sample, in K16 I just posted there is no weird admixtures at all. No west African.

[Wrong]

Largest segment = 47.8 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 144.6 cM
Yeah. This is proof that the sample is 100% pure bullshit.

[Dick]

This Montenegrin is a 23andMe kit. I tested with FTDNA and they are using a different panel of SNPs than 23andMe, so I suppose that I would share even more segments if also I had a 23andMe kit.

Only 7K SNPs were used in this comparison:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 41.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 167.1 cM
6 matching segments

6952 SNPs used for this comparison.

==========

PS: But this is a low coverage (low quality) ancient sample.

I first used ftdna


Largest segment = 37.4 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 160.1 cM
6 matching segments

and now this is 23andme

Largest segment = 50.3 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 180.9 cM
5 matching segments

4947 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Fustan]

Yeah. This is proof that the sample is 100% pure bullshit.

This sample is putted in ignore list.

[Wrong]

It is pretty clean sample, in K16 I just posted there is no weird admixtures at all. No west African.
Most of its admixture might aswell be junk DNA from low SNPs just to reach 100% in these gedmatch programs, not just the West African.

This is bullshit just like the Thracian sample who got 100% Mediterranean Islander on DNAland.

[Jana]

Most of its admixture might aswell be junk DNA from low SNPs just to reach 100%, not just the West African.
This is bullshit just like the Thracian sample who got 100% Mediterranean Islander on DNAland.

It's low coverage, but there is no any proof this sample is misleading. If it was recent steppe imigrant it looks exactly like it should, closest to Finns and Russians.
People who brought IE languages to SE Europe were very different than modern southeast Europeans.

[Wrong]

It's low coverage, but there is no any proof this sample is misleading. If it was recent steppe imigrant it looks exactly like it should, closest to Finns and Russians.
People who brought IE languages to SE Europe were very different than modern southeast Europeans.
I'm more interested to see Ancient J2b2 autosomal who had very well-preserved SNP coverage.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

According to PuntDNAL oracle it has closest distance with Balts - Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians @ 11


# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 65.64
2 SW_Europe 18.76
3 East_Africa 6.6
4 Siberia 5.01
5 SE_Asia 3.98

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Latvian 11.11
2 Lithuanian 11.12
3 Estonian 11.24
4 Russian 11.98
5 Polish 13.04
6 Finnish 13.08
7 Mordovian 13.86
8 Belarusian 15.2
9 Swedish 18.33
10 Ukrainian 20.07
11 Norwegian 20.19
12 German_North 22.11
13 Utahn_European 24.13
14 Slovak 24.29
15 Irish 24.92
16 Orcadian 25.47
17 Slovene 25.92
18 Scottish 26.03
19 English 26.3
20 Chuvash 26.71

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93% Latvian + 7% Gumuz @ 8.45
2 93.1% Lithuanian + 6.9% Gumuz @ 8.52
3 93% Latvian + 7% Dinka @ 8.61
4 93% Latvian + 7% Anuak @ 8.68
5 93.1% Lithuanian + 6.9% Dinka @ 8.7
6 93.1% Lithuanian + 6.9% Anuak @ 8.77
7 93.2% Latvian + 6.8% Sudanese_South @ 8.96
8 93.3% Lithuanian + 6.7% Sudanese_South @ 9.03
9 93.3% Latvian + 6.7% Bulala @ 9.11
10 93.6% Estonian + 6.4% Gumuz @ 9.12
11 93.4% Lithuanian + 6.6% Bulala @ 9.19
12 93.2% Latvian + 6.8% Aricultivator @ 9.2
13 93.2% Lithuanian + 6.8% Aricultivator @ 9.21
14 93.6% Estonian + 6.4% Dinka @ 9.29
15 93.2% Latvian + 6.8% Maasai @ 9.33
16 93.7% Estonian + 6.3% Anuak @ 9.35
17 93.2% Lithuanian + 6.8% Maasai @ 9.36
18 93.3% Latvian + 6.7% Hadza @ 9.4
19 93.4% Lithuanian + 6.6% Hadza @ 9.46
20 93.4% Latvian + 6.6% Datog @ 9.51

Lel @ secondary population source in mixed mode.

[Jana]

I'm more interested to see Ancient J2b2 autosomal who had very well-preserved SNP coverage.
Me too. Why aren't they published yet ?
He (J2b2 man)was steppe admixed but it's bronze age sample and would certanly be closer to modern southeast Europeans than iron age one, as he was already highly neolithic influenced (mixed with indigenious people).

[Wrong]

Me too. Why aren't they published yet ?
He was steppe admixed but it's bronze age sample and would certanly be closer to modern southeast Europeans than iron age one, as he was already highly neolithic influenced (mixed with indigenious people).
I wonder to what extent his Steppe admixture was, as his mtDNA was Steppe-derived. His father might aswell have been a Balkan native taking Steppe women.

[Lek]

...




What you said worked bro!!!!

Comparing Kit T267175 (*Beast) and M462154 (RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age)


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 40 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 203,537,754 229,529,479 28.2 68
3 48,247,540 66,916,127 21.8 59
6 36,434,276 99,801,215 50.4 121
7 68,797,375 93,322,381 23.4 47
9 79,314,723 109,603,853 36.9 88
10 10,645,772 24,832,824 22.1 54
10 80,178,906 97,950,983 17.4 63
12 54,631,675 67,829,787 12.5 40
12 71,301,184 114,322,244 44.7 95
15 35,859,641 62,239,375 28.0 57
17 17,616,003 49,452,975 31.0 57
22 31,034,377 49,308,931 40.7 76
Largest segment = 50.4 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 357.2 cM
12 matching segments

6946 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03846 seconds

[Voskos]

What you said worked bro!!!!

Total of segments > 2 cM = 357.2 cM
12 matching segments

6946 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03846 seconds

:thumb001:

[Dick]

According to PuntDNAL oracle it has closest distance with Balts - Latvians, Lithuanians, Estonians @ 11



.

which punt?

PuntDnal k10 ancient

Kit M462154

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 76.93
2 CHG 23.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 21.61
2 Estonian 22.95
3 Finnish 26.94
4 Belarusian 27.06
5 Russian 28.22
6 Icelandic 30.51
7 Norwegian 30.63
8 Ukrainian 32.2
9 Mordovian 32.29
10 Scottish_West 33.72
11 Czech 35.37
12 German_North 35.8
13 English_South 37.24
14 Irish 38.74
15 Utahn_white 39.31
16 Hungarian 40.87
17 German_South 41.78
18 Croatian 41.8
19 Chuvash 42.35
20 French 45.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Estonian @ 21.61
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Icelandic @ 21.61
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Belarusian @ 21.61
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Finnish @ 21.61
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Norwegian @ 21.61
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Basque_Spanish @ 21.61
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Russian @ 21.61
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Scottish_West @ 21.61
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ukrainian @ 21.61
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Czech @ 21.61
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% German_North @ 21.61
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% English_South @ 21.61
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Mordovian @ 21.61
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Utahn_white @ 21.61
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Irish @ 21.61
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% German_South @ 21.61
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Croatian @ 21.61
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Hungarian @ 21.61
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Spanish_Northeast @ 21.61
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% French @ 21.61

[Jana]

I wonder to what extent his Steppe admixture was, as his mtDNA was Steppe-derived. His father might aswell have been a Balkan native taking Steppe women.
Here, orange is steppe :) blue WHG, gray neolithic
http://s5.ifotos.pl/img/aut4png_aaqnqsn.png

[The Illyrian Warrior]

I wonder to what extent his Steppe admixture was, as his mtDNA was Steppe-derived. Might aswell have been a Balkan native taking Steppe women.

The way I see it this is by far most logical explanation rather y-dna coming from steppe.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

which punt?

PuntDnal k10 ancient

Kit M462154

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 WHG 76.93
2 CHG 23.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 21.61
2 Estonian 22.95
3 Finnish 26.94
4 Belarusian 27.06
5 Russian 28.22
6 Icelandic 30.51
7 Norwegian 30.63
8 Ukrainian 32.2
9 Mordovian 32.29
10 Scottish_West 33.72
11 Czech 35.37
12 German_North 35.8
13 English_South 37.24
14 Irish 38.74
15 Utahn_white 39.31
16 Hungarian 40.87
17 German_South 41.78
18 Croatian 41.8
19 Chuvash 42.35
20 French 45.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Estonian @ 21.61
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Icelandic @ 21.61
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Belarusian @ 21.61
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Finnish @ 21.61
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Norwegian @ 21.61
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Basque_Spanish @ 21.61
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Russian @ 21.61
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Scottish_West @ 21.61
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ukrainian @ 21.61
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Czech @ 21.61
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% German_North @ 21.61
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% English_South @ 21.61
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Mordovian @ 21.61
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Utahn_white @ 21.61
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Irish @ 21.61
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% German_South @ 21.61
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Croatian @ 21.61
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Hungarian @ 21.61
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Spanish_Northeast @ 21.61
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% French @ 21.61

PuntDNAL k13.

[Wrong]

Here, orange is steppe :) blue WHG, gray neolithic
http://s5.ifotos.pl/img/aut4png_aaqnqsn.png
Which of the samples is it?

[Wrong]

What you said worked bro!!!!

Comparing Kit T267175 (*Beast) and M462154 (RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age)


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 40 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 203,537,754 229,529,479 28.2 68
3 48,247,540 66,916,127 21.8 59
6 36,434,276 99,801,215 50.4 121
7 68,797,375 93,322,381 23.4 47
9 79,314,723 109,603,853 36.9 88
10 10,645,772 24,832,824 22.1 54
10 80,178,906 97,950,983 17.4 63
12 54,631,675 67,829,787 12.5 40
12 71,301,184 114,322,244 44.7 95
15 35,859,641 62,239,375 28.0 57
17 17,616,003 49,452,975 31.0 57
22 31,034,377 49,308,931 40.7 76
Largest segment = 50.4 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 357.2 cM
12 matching segments

6946 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03846 seconds
Is this with lesser threshold size of 40 SNPs?

People who use 50 SNP threshold get lower results.

[Jana]

Which of the samples is it?
One of the ''Balkans bronze age'' probably you can check in published work which number is J2b2 guy.
One of Vucedol samples is R1b-L23 man too (other 2 are female)

[Freeroostah]

Largest segment = 45.1 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 45.1 cM
1 matching segments

[Lek]

Who ?

Well now its me , as it worked.

[wvwvw]

It's low coverage, but there is no any proof this sample is misleading. If it was recent steppe imigrant it looks exactly like it should, closest to Finns and Russians.
People who brought IE languages to SE Europe were very different than modern southeast Europeans.

There is no proof that Steppe people spoke IE languages. The European language evolved among people from the J2 DNA lineage who came from Anatolia and who combined with members of the EV13 DNA linage who came from North Africa and migrated to Cyprus and Greece. The root language was Greco-Phoenician. This stands to reason since these were the people who brought Agriculture to Europe and hence the only source for the Agriculture terminology which would have made up over 70% of the original language.

Slavs are made up of the R1a linage which evolved in Asia and did not enter europe until 600 AD whereas Germanics are of the I-M170 linage which evolved 20,000 years ago where Germany is today and were thus isolated from the Slavs and all other Europeans.

The only other main European linage is R1b and is the most predominant buy since this is the linage of 99% of Basques this would mean that this linage would have originally spoken Basque which is not an Indo-European language.

Thus only the J2 and Ev13 linages could have been responsible for the common European language since these were the linages of the Minoans Greeks, the Hittites and the Indo Iranians.

Greek, Hittite, Persian and Sanskrit which are the oldest known Indo-Europeans languages ALL have ther root in J2 and Ev13 populations. The younger language such as Italo-Celtic, Germanic and Slavic are all derivatives of this J2/Ev13 root language Greco-Phoenician.

Italo-Celtic evolved from Greco-Phoenician in about 2500 BC and Germanic evolved in about 1500 BC from Mycenean Greek. The Skythian conquest of the Balkans is what force the Myceaneans into souther Greece.

Slavic is a derivative of Germanic which evolved in around 200 AD - 600 AD when the Slavs and Germanics made contact in the Ukraine and in the Balkans.

The PIE theory is just wishfull thinking. In reality FOUR common European languages began simultaneously among 4 separate tribal groups. The Greco-Phoenican-Hittite-Indo-Iranians where by far the greatest contributors to the language over 70%. The Iberian-Italo-Celts contributed almost nothing and lost their original language Basque altogether. The Germanics contributed 20% of the language and the Slavs about 10%.

[Dick]

decrease threshold from 50 to 40 and see if you get matches.if not use 30.

I get an error message when i do that

[Wrong]

I get an error message when i do that
Same. Using 40 threshold should produce higher results.

[Dick]

Same. Using 40 threshold should produce higher results.

someone broke polacko's gedmatch

[Lek]

Is this with lesser threshold size of 40 SNPs?

It says right there what it is.




People who use 50 SNP threshold get lower results.

After it worked with 40 it now works with 50. Heres with 50:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 203,537,754 229,529,479 28.2 68
3 48,247,540 66,916,127 21.8 59
6 36,434,276 99,801,215 50.4 121
9 79,314,723 109,603,853 36.9 88
10 10,645,772 24,832,824 22.1 54
10 80,178,906 97,950,983 17.4 63
12 71,301,184 114,322,244 44.7 95
15 35,859,641 62,239,375 28.0 57
17 17,616,003 49,452,975 31.0 57
22 31,034,377 49,308,931 40.7 76
Largest segment = 50.4 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 321.3 cM
10 matching segments

6946 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02818 seconds.

[MysteriousWays]

I get error message also

[Lek]

It's low coverage, but there is no any proof this sample is misleading. If it was recent steppe imigrant it looks exactly like it should, closest to Finns and Russians.
People who brought IE languages to SE Europe were very different than modern southeast Europeans.

I agree. Thats why Albanian was grouped before even with balto slavic. But not really related but rather proto Albanian was.

Albanians arent that much steppe but rather overall neolithic and WHG so i didnt expect to match this much... seems rather proto Ilyrians were less than the natives and that conquered the western balkans and imposed their language and culture that was also heavily influenced by the natives.

[Lek]

Btw, i dont really wanna match this thing or be steppe.. i prefer med genes.

[Wrong]

The fact that Gilgamesh matches more with it than most Albanians makes this wierd.

Maybe it's the SSA giving Gilgamesh those matches.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Btw, i dont really wanna match this thing or be steppe.. i prefer med genes.

I know you are disappointed to settle for med but at end of the day you gotta accept swarthy ass genes and y dna my nigga. :laugh:

[Lek]

I know you are disappointed to settle for med but at end of the day you gotta accept swarthy ass genes and y dna my nigga. :laugh:

Nah, i always prefered med :D

But turned out to be less med than some OWD Albanians here :D

[Lek]

Me and Ylla seem to match this thing the most?

[Wrong]

Nah, i always prefered med :D

But turned out to be less med than some OWD Albanians here :D
I'm happy to be Doric-Spartan with crazy close match to them. Ancient tall-blond-blue eyed genes ;)

[Dibran]

This is the part when I get lost in genetics, I don't even know what the fuck cM means? :D

lol I can run it for you if you like. Inbox me ur kit.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Nah, i always prefered med :D

But turned out to be less med than some OWD Albanians here :D

Still dissapointed thou. :D

[Dick]

The fact that Gilgamesh matches more with it than most Albanians makes this wierd.

Maybe it's the SSA giving Gilgamesh those matches.

Polish voodoo, brah

[Dibran]

One of the ''Balkans bronze age'' probably you can check in published work which number is J2b2 guy.
One of Vucedol samples is R1b-L23 man too (other 2 are female)




How did this Illyrian get uploaded but we still have no sample for the J2b Illyrian from Croatia?

[Era]

Med doesnt equal swarthy sorry. I'm super med and my relatives are 90% blond, males more so even.

If you're dark you get that from Steppe or whatever you get get it from.

[Dick]

This sample is putted in ignore list.

https://i.giphy.com/media/jWnzTZrpXOgmI/200.gif

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Med doesnt equal swarthy sorry. I'm super med and my relatives are 90% blond, males more so even.

If you're dark you get that from Steppe or whatever you get get it from.

In TA dictionary med is a swarthy person although IRL we are aware that they are no really much different from rest of Europids.

[Jana]

How did this Illyrian get uploaded but we still have no sample for the J2b Illyrian from Croatia?
:(

[Dibran]

What you said worked bro!!!!

Comparing Kit T267175 (*Beast) and M462154 (RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age)


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 40 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 203,537,754 229,529,479 28.2 68
3 48,247,540 66,916,127 21.8 59
6 36,434,276 99,801,215 50.4 121
7 68,797,375 93,322,381 23.4 47
9 79,314,723 109,603,853 36.9 88
10 10,645,772 24,832,824 22.1 54
10 80,178,906 97,950,983 17.4 63
12 54,631,675 67,829,787 12.5 40
12 71,301,184 114,322,244 44.7 95
15 35,859,641 62,239,375 28.0 57
17 17,616,003 49,452,975 31.0 57
22 31,034,377 49,308,931 40.7 76
Largest segment = 50.4 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 357.2 cM
12 matching segments

6946 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03846 seconds


Nice. Strong match.

[Dibran]

Still dissapointed thou. :D

You matches at 6 segments.


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 22,522,581 41,112,125 24.1 64
4 5,863,467 68,786,592 72.2 119
5 41,027,067 79,129,910 28.8 82
6 105,983,432 132,361,363 22.8 60
10 71,247,547 84,323,608 16.3 53
20 16,530,448 38,331,069 17.7 56
Largest segment = 72.2 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 181.8 cM
6 matching segments

[Wrong]

Here, orange is steppe :) blue WHG, gray neolithic
http://s5.ifotos.pl/img/aut4png_aaqnqsn.png
I give up. I found no references to many of these samples in the PDF document or google.

What is the red in it?

Edit: Found em now :D

[Kelmendasi]

I can't lower to 40 for some reason only 50. Here is my Ftdna result
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 29,806,060 44,763,865 19.8 54
2 64,950,440 102,386,928 30.1 73
4 45,796,306 82,454,757 27.1 67
17 30,348,520 58,950,280 31.0 56
Largest segment = 31.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 108.0 cM
4 matching segments

6927 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02316 seconds.
Ver: May 24 2017 20:18:13

[The Illyrian Warrior]

You matches at 6 segments.


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 22,522,581 41,112,125 24.1 64
4 5,863,467 68,786,592 72.2 119
5 41,027,067 79,129,910 28.8 82
6 105,983,432 132,361,363 22.8 60
10 71,247,547 84,323,608 16.3 53
20 16,530,448 38,331,069 17.7 56
Largest segment = 72.2 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 181.8 cM
6 matching segments

I got no nigga in me like Ali pasha that's why it's low. :D

Thanks for running this thing for me btw. :)

[Wrong]

I can't lower to 40 for some reason only 50. Here is my Ftdna result
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 29,806,060 44,763,865 19.8 54
2 64,950,440 102,386,928 30.1 73
4 45,796,306 82,454,757 27.1 67
17 30,348,520 58,950,280 31.0 56
Largest segment = 31.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 108.0 cM
4 matching segments

6927 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02316 seconds.
Ver: May 24 2017 20:18:13

Seems like Palestinian Gilgamesh is more Iron Age Balkan invader than most of us :D

[Dibran]

I can't lower to 40 for some reason only 50. Here is my Ftdna result
Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 29,806,060 44,763,865 19.8 54
2 64,950,440 102,386,928 30.1 73
4 45,796,306 82,454,757 27.1 67
17 30,348,520 58,950,280 31.0 56
Largest segment = 31.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 108.0 cM
4 matching segments

6927 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02316 seconds.
Ver: May 24 2017 20:18:13

I found this works better on mobile. for some reason i get no match on desktop. When I run it on mobile the match is there.

[Dibran]

I got no nigga in me like Ali pasha that's why it's low. :D

Thanks for running this thing for me btw. :)

Lol you're welcome bro.

[Wrong]

J2b2-L283 Bronze Age Balkan

http://i.imgur.com/HZ6fjrt.png

Mostly Neolithic(Grey), followed by Steppe(Orange), 1-2% WHG(Blue). Not sure what the Red is.

[Kelmendasi]

Seems like Palestinian Gilgamesh is more Iron Age Balkan invader than most of us :D
Lol how in the hell is Gilgamesh getting more matches with it than us xD

[Kelmendasi]

I found this works better on mobile. for some reason i get no match on desktop. When I run it on mobile the match is there.
I did it on mobile. Maybe 40 will work on PC

[MysteriousWays]

With 40 for me...

Largest segment = 46.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 401.8 cM
13 matching segments

With 30 for me...

Largest segment = 46.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 601.3 cM
23 matching segments

[Dibran]

J2b2-L283 Bronze Age Balkan

http://i.imgur.com/HZ6fjrt.png

Mostly Neolithic(Grey), followed by Steppe(Orange), 1-2% WHG(Blue). Not sure what the Red is.

is there a gedmatch kit for it? I wonder why the montenegrin sample went up and yet this one still has not.

[Dibran]

With 40 for me...

Largest segment = 46.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 401.8 cM
13 matching segments

With 30 for me...

Largest segment = 46.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 601.3 cM
23 matching segments



You got Ali beat

[MysteriousWays]

It
Lol how in the hell is Gilgamesh getting more matches with it than us xD

It may change as you go to lower limits, not sure.

[Kelmendasi]

It

It may change as you go to lower limits, not sure.
I cant go to 40 for some reason

[Wrong]

I cant go to 40 for some reason
50 is the standard anyway.

[Jana]

J2b2-L283 Bronze Age Balkan

http://i.imgur.com/HZ6fjrt.png

Mostly Neolithic(Grey), followed by Steppe(Orange), 1-2% WHG(Blue). Not sure what the Red is.
Nice find! :D
Red should probably be EHG, since he was Indoeuropean.

[Lek]

I'm happy to be Doric-Spartan with crazy close match to them. Ancient tall-blond-blue eyed genes ;)

Come on man, your lighter pigmentation is from that 5% northern european you get on every autosomal or else you would of plot even more south with Cretans. Lets get real here.

[Wrong]

Come on man, your lighter pigmentation is from that 5% northern european you get on every autosomal or else you would of plot even more south with Cretans. Lets get real here.
Nah. It's Ancient preserved pigmentation due to sexual selection.

Let's be realistic here.

[Lek]

You got Ali beat

Nah he used 40 and 30 , i used 50... on 30 and 40 i would of fucked dat bitch in the ass

[Fustan]

You removed your YDNA from your profile and became Autosomalist??

Not Good..

[Wrong]

You removed your YDNA from your profile and became Autosomalist??

Not Good..
Autozoomalism is never good news..

[Wrong]

Nice find! :D
Red should probably be EHG, since he was Indoeuropean.
Since the mtDNA is definitely Steppe + EHG, I am sure this man's father picked it up somewhere in the Balkans.
The Neolithic value is stronk, WHG nearly non-existant.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Nice find! :D
Red should probably be EHG, since he was Indoeuropean.

Red is most likely Mesolithic as I've seen a similar chart somewhere which relates red color with mesolithic.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

J2b2 'illyrian sample' is pretty much in line with modern albanian admixture, just in average he scores more neolithic and less of WHG/yamnaya.

Anyone knows what calculators were used for their results?

[Dibran]

J2b2 'illyrian sample' is pretty much in line with modern albanian admixture, just in average he scores more neolithic and less of WHG/yamnaya.

Anyone knows what calculators were used for their results?

I wish they would post the j2 illyrians gedkit already.lol.

[Lek]

post your results bro. pretty sure you will share segments with them.

I guess you were right man. Even on 50 I got the highest out of all Albanians here and others from what I saw. Only one who beat me was Ylla who got 4 segments more.

[Wrong]

J2b2 'illyrian sample' is pretty much in line with modern albanian admixture, just in average he scores more neolithic and less of WHG/yamnaya.

Anyone knows what calculators were used for their results?
The fact that they have overlooked this sample is mind-boggling.

[Dibran]

Still dissapointed thou. :D


The fact that they have overlooked this sample is mind-boggling.

Seriously.

I'm not good at it but we should gather Albanian kits and formulate the average and compare it like so with this sample.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Seriously.

I'm not good at it but we should gather Albanian kits and formulate the average and compare it like so with this sample.

Takes QUITE some time to draw an average, I tried to do so with Eurogene k15 but I surrendered because I got lazy over time.

[Deniz]

Hi Guys.:)


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 81,772,347 118,384,931 35.8 102
1 229,745,117 242,563,962 31.5 50
2 73,532,948 107,665,797 23.5 59
2 151,204,397 174,014,783 20.8 51
3 10,995,033 29,904,328 24.1 54
3 151,885,171 182,248,555 25.8 55
4 5,863,467 37,865,316 46.9 66
5 82,243,312 116,449,761 28.0 65
17 64,863,054 76,826,673 33.4 54
20 31,172,379 47,700,112 20.8 54
Largest segment = 46.9 cM
Total of segments > 7 cM = 290.5 cM
10 matching segments

6947 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02589 seconds.
Ver: May 24 2017 20:18:13

[Deniz]

Maternal Grandfather




Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 119,392,499 141,390,660 23.3 52
4 4,873,210 26,048,321 37.3 51
4 114,553,768 148,594,381 27.5 50
6 132,940,710 154,545,204 28.7 52
9 91,359,943 109,922,211 19.7 55
10 307,501 16,436,878 38.9 62
11 28,697,077 69,384,728 29.8 100
12 55,294,451 71,301,184 14.4 50
12 93,848,520 113,181,684 23.1 58
13 32,414,448 65,111,705 29.2 83
14 19,661,054 41,934,178 40.9 67
20 31,172,379 51,204,098 26.8 64
Largest segment = 40.9 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 339.6 cM
12 matching segments

6947 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.02169 seconds.
Ver: May 24 2017 20:18:13

GEDmatch.Com Autosomal Comparison - V2.1.1(c)

Father

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 73,274,715 107,984,972 24.1 61
3 5,771,253 21,911,536 25.8 60
4 4,854,576 37,865,316 49.8 72
10 1,974,431 18,431,568 38.9 65
13 38,329,945 51,391,953 15.1 53
14 57,275,798 77,468,070 20.1 51
Largest segment = 49.8 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 173.8 cM
6 matching segments

6948 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03128 seconds.
Ver: May 24 2017 20:18:13

Mother

GEDmatch.Com Autosomal Comparison

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
3 152,173,256 182,248,555 25.4 55
10 107,994,000 125,967,958 26.8 52
12 89,763,592 108,080,234 24.0 53
14 20,130,127 48,921,407 42.7 80
14 83,293,137 98,696,476 29.0 59
22 29,862,960 48,316,229 39.7 76
Largest segment = 42.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 187.6 cM
6 matching segments

6939 SNPs used for this comparison.

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[Vascontelo]

Largest segment = 39.9 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 224.7 cM
7 matching segments

[Noman]

Instead of 50 SNP, I did 45 because there was no matching segment.

Largest segment = 41.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 67.9 cM
2 matching segments

[firemonkey]

23andMe

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 67,754,716 103,409,195 30.8 50
5 1,361,552 39,561,825 61.7 73
6 139,354,232 169,904,462 46.0 67
7 23,338,929 48,324,909 31.4 55
9 14,784,476 82,027,670 47.0 74
13 70,411,247 113,300,003 67.0 77
22 18,432,566 47,845,151 62.0 71
Largest segment = 67.0 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 346.0 cM
7 matching segments

FTDNA


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 74,448,991 132,891,234 46.7 96
2 153,898,443 177,338,854 22.9 55
3 153,868,094 188,804,996 36.7 67
5 116,449,761 145,021,258 24.3 76
10 54,891,288 77,292,491 22.6 59
12 74,385,808 104,677,899 30.9 63
18 27,443,455 53,811,361 24.0 63
Largest segment = 46.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 208.0 cM
7 matching segments


Ancestry

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 74,448,991 132,891,234 46.7 94
2 153,898,443 177,338,854 22.9 55
3 153,868,094 188,804,996 36.7 64
5 116,449,761 145,021,258 24.3 71
12 74,385,808 104,677,899 30.9 60

Largest segment = 46.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 161.5 cM
5 matching segments



My heritage

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 74,448,991 132,891,234 46.7 95
2 153,898,443 177,338,854 22.9 55
3 153,868,094 188,804,996 36.7 67
5 116,449,761 145,021,258 24.3 74
10 54,891,288 77,292,491 22.6 57
12 74,385,808 104,677,899 30.9 62
18 27,443,455 53,811,361 24.0 62
Largest segment = 46.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 208.0 cM
7 matching segments

[oszkar07]

FTDNA

(Oscar) and M462154 (RISE596 Montenegro Iron Age)
Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Largest segment = 37.7 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 259.6 cM
9 matching segments

6951 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Lek]

Me neither apparently :rolleyes:

Are you sure you did it correct. Send gedmatch nr, i will do it.

[Era]

Are you sure you did it correct. Send gedmatch nr, i will do it.

For some reason it came out as 0 when I do it. Dibran did it, thanks.

Largest segment = 57.8 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 200.5 cM
4 matching segments

[frankhammer]

Largest segment = 54.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 211.6 cM
5 matching segments

4900 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Era]

Largest segment = 54.5 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 211.6 cM
5 matching segments

4900 SNPs used for this comparison.

We are all Illyrians, Gilgamesh more so.

[Lek]

We are all Illyrians, Gilgamesh more so.

Its a pre Ilyrian, unmixed. Similar to Balts and East Euros with high CHG/WHG. of course it will match other people. And several here beat what he got already. But he matches most likely because he has some ancestry from Caucasus/East Europe or the CHG.

[DRUM]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 18,730,185 38,313,843 25.8 71
7 25,416,611 45,629,299 26.8 57
10 83,579,685 101,283,846 17.4 50
12 93,848,520 123,767,004 38.8 98
13 70,411,247 103,116,934 38.1 66
14 20,130,127 35,610,887 34.5 54
20 23,980,601 47,333,571 22.1 60
Largest segment = 38.8 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 203.4 cM
7 matching segments

6948 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Thanas Django]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
10 2,044,959 23,303,951 42.4 71
13 39,616,680 68,059,674 19.9 52
Largest segment = 42.4 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 62.4 cM
2 matching segments

4892 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Gangrel]

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 2.0 cM

Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
2 53,264,289 71,748,665 16.6 50
3 20,466,801 38,322,952 21.6 51
5 80,036,926 110,513,473 24.8 50
6 137,996,725 158,841,712 26.8 60
11 51,374,837 75,625,265 17.1 58
12 74,385,808 108,119,414 36.2 74
14 21,992,078 43,899,026 32.0 61

Largest segment = 36.2 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 175.1 cM
7 matching segments

6948 SNPs used for this comparison.

[Bosniensis]

M462154 has been deleted

does anyone have a new gedmatch kit id for RISE596?

[Dibran]

It seems this Illyrian is closer to Slavs than to Albanians...
I would like to match it but it seems it's deleted.

It was deleted because the sample was corrupted. It was not reliable.

[Dibran]

It seems that this guy was from the steppe...
Very radical results, it seems was a fresh migrant.
Wasn't mixed much with the natives.
Or could have been just an unreliable sample as you say.

As far as I understand from when it was originally posted, it was a corrupted sample. Unless this is a different one. As far as I know there was only the one though.