Myanthropologies DNA.LAND ancestry results

[Myanthropologies]

Just got them, homie.

http://i.imgur.com/bDduBII.jpg

[Voskos]

haha Balkan. Bactrian folks.

[Myanthropologies]

haha Balkan. Bactrian folks.

I score Pathan + Greek in some calculators. I wonder what that's about.

[Voskos]

I score Pathan + Greek in some calculators. I wonder what that's about.

could be either med ancestry or ancient balkanic. You should test Y-DNA .

[wvwvw]

I score Pathan + Greek in some calculators. I wonder what that's about.

Funny because out of Asian populations I am closest to Pathans, Burusho and another one I forgot what.

[Myanthropologies]

could be either med ancestry or ancient balkanic. You should test Y-DNA .

Apparently there is a way to find y dna with ancestrt results, but it's complicated a little bit. I'ma do it tomorrow morning. Sikeliot might help me out with that.

[Myanthropologies]

Post your Eurogenes K36.

Try also DNA.Land, MyHeritage, GenePlaza, WeGene.

[Peterski]

Congrats, nice results.

[Myanthropologies]

Congrats, nice results.

Thank

[RN97]

Indus valley is st000peeed. These DNA companies ain't even trying to make reasonable areas.

[Myanthropologies]

Indus valley is st000peeed. These DNA companies ain't even trying to make reasonable areas.

Well they put it under central asia, so hmm. I wonder what it actually is.

The Indus Valley has pashtuns, Kashmiris, and Kalash though, and it says it includes pashtuns on dna land, so that's why I score a lot.

I scored 0% Dravidian (which is also a category on there)

[Era]

could be either med ancestry or ancient balkanic. You should test Y-DNA .
Neither. It's slavic since he also scores north slavic.

[Norb]

nice Kalash

[Myanthropologies]

Neither. It's slavic since he also scores north slavic.

Some of the slavic could be N European absorbed from a Greek ancestor, since I also have a chunk of med ancestry too, and due to the fact that I have a tiny bit more European dna than average pashtuns

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 40.1
2 Indian 21.22
3 North-East-European 12.21
4 Indo-Iranian 7.2
5 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 4.31
6 North-European-Mesolithic 3.55
7 Samoedic 3.29
8 Near_East 2.35
9 Mesoamerican 1.27
10 Paleo-Siberian 1.19
11 Austronesian 1.08
12 Indo-Tibetan 0.98
13 North-Amerind 0.71
14 East-Siberean 0.33
15 Arctic-Amerind 0.22

I score a lot of " Pathan + 11% Albanian," or "Pathan + 15% Greek" on some calcuoators. I have a shift towards everyone in W. Eurasia though, based off my gedmatch, but I still cluster with afghans.

[Norb]

what are your haplogroups?

[Myanthropologies]

what are your haplogroups?

I am not sure yet, but when I took the y dna predictor test, I did not get r1a1 predicted as my most likely. I got predicted to be a really rare g haplogroup that is shared only with Ashkenazis, other Levantines, and some Pashtuns. I was hella shocked, because about a quarter to 30% of my DNA is N. European, so I thought I would be r1a1 for sure.

[Era]

I am not sure yet, but when I took the y dna predictor test, I did not get r1a1 predicted as my most likely. I got predicted to be a really rare g haplogroup that is shared only with Ashkenazis, other Levantines, and some Pashtuns. I was hella shocked, because about a quarter to 30% of my DNA is N. European, so I thought I would be r1a1 for sure.

What did you get? I think it's best if you guys post all your results from different tests in one thread.

[Dick]

What did you get? I think it's best if you guys post all your results from different tests in one thread.

He said he got G.

[Dick]

I am not sure yet, but when I took the y dna predictor test, I did not get r1a1 predicted as my most likely. I got predicted to be a really rare g haplogroup that is shared only with Ashkenazis, other Levantines, and some Pashtuns. I was hella shocked, because about a quarter to 30% of my DNA is N. European, so I thought I would be r1a1 for sure.

The G subclade like in Armenia or Georgia?

[Myanthropologies]

The G subclade like in Armenia or Georgia?

It's connected to that, but more so to jews and Levantines. It may not be right though
.

[Myanthropologies]

Dna land predicts me to be short (155 cm), ugly, stupid, and to have a high neuroticism tendency :'(. It's so innacurate about the height at least. All the men in my family including myself are way way way above 155 cm.

I go to a fairly well known honors public university which is known for its rigorous courses, especially in STEM (which is part of my major), get all As and Bs, and got accepted to an exclusive national honors society for students with a 3.5 gpa or higher one year. My dad is also PhD educated.

But I also do have a learning disability and take longer in exams than most kids do, but that's also because I make sure I read everything carefully (some professors like to word their questions in tricky ways, so I try to make sure I don't fall for those traps). Maybe I am stupid, idk.

It says it conducts those surveys to be less biased, but idk.

it also infers that I'm a south asian.

[jatt]

indus valley 67 % ? i believe your ancestors may have migrated from indus valley to afghanistan then.

[Myanthropologies]

indus valley 67 % ? i believe your ancestors may have migrated from indus valley to afghanistan then.

No, my ancestors definitely didn't. The "Indus Valley category lumps pashtuns and explicitly says so on dna land


Includes: Burusho, Pathan and Sindhi in Pakistan

I don't score anything that includes Punjabis or Jatts.

On gedmatch, I score as close to Afghan Pashtun as one can be.

[Noman]

If you are interested, can you please upload your raw data to FTDNA. It costs $19 for ethnicity estimates. It gives much better precision than Ancestry DNA.

[Nilab]

No, my ancestors definitely didn't. The "Indus Valley category lumps pashtuns and explicitly says so on dna land



I don't score anything that includes Punjabis or Jatts.

On gedmatch, I score as close to Afghan Pashtun as one can be.

Sindhis are genetically very similar to Punjabis/Jatts anyway.
Indus Valley is in light green below, it seems interchangeable with Pakistan.
https://i.imgur.com/YmbVwVK_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

DNA Land didnt use any Punjabi samples, but the major component of Punjabis in DNA Land is Indus Valley as well.

[Myanthropologies]

Sindhis are genetically very similar to Punjabis/Jatts anyway.
Indus Valley is in light green below, it seems interchangeable with Pakistan.
https://i.imgur.com/YmbVwVK_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=high

DNA Land didnt use any Punjabi samples, but the major component of Punjabis in DNA Land is Indus Valley as well.

It doesn't seem that way, since this is what a self proclaimed Punjabi gets on dna land

http://tanmoy.tripod.com/DNALand1.png

[Sekarotuinen]

>1.4% Finnish
Genetic marker of the ancient Finnish Khanate.

[Babak]

indus valley 67 % ? i believe your ancestors may have migrated from indus valley to afghanistan then.

Naw, most of his ancestors are probably from Hindu kush. Thats where most pashtuns originated from anyway

[Mortimer]

congrats

[Babak]

Some of the slavic could be N European absorbed from a Greek ancestor, since I also have a chunk of med ancestry too, and due to the fact that I have a tiny bit more European dna than average pashtuns

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 40.1
2 Indian 21.22
3 North-East-European 12.21
4 Indo-Iranian 7.2
5 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 4.31
6 North-European-Mesolithic 3.55
7 Samoedic 3.29
8 Near_East 2.35
9 Mesoamerican 1.27
10 Paleo-Siberian 1.19
11 Austronesian 1.08
12 Indo-Tibetan 0.98
13 North-Amerind 0.71
14 East-Siberean 0.33
15 Arctic-Amerind 0.22

I score a lot of " Pathan + 11% Albanian," or "Pathan + 15% Greek" on some calcuoators. I have a shift towards everyone in W. Eurasia though, based off my gedmatch, but I still cluster with afghans.


Western Turks for example score over 11-18% South-central asian, but it doesn't necessarily mean they have afghan ancestors. It just means they have shared IE-related ancestry(Most likely Indo-iranian). I think the same goes for you since you do have higher N.Euro, especially for an afghan pashtun.

[Heather Duval]

i thought you were half irish

[Myanthropologies]

i thought you were half irish

Nope. Idk why people think that on here. That was just a rumor some butthurt member probably spread.

[Heather Duval]

Nope. Idk why people think that on here. That was just a rumor some butthurt member probably spread.

how are u 1% native, nigga?

[Myanthropologies]

how are u 1% native, nigga?

Cause my ancestors were ninja

[Myanthropologies]

Dna land predicts me to be short (155 cm), ugly, stupid, and to have a high neuroticism tendency :'(. It's so innacurate about the height at least. All the men in my family including myself are way way way above 155 cm.

I go to a fairly well known honors public university which is known for its rigorous courses, especially in STEM (which is part of my major), get all As and Bs, and got accepted to an exclusive national honors society for students with a 3.5 gpa or higher one year. My dad is also PhD educated.

But I also do have a learning disability and take longer in exams than most kids do, but that's also because I make sure I read everything carefully (some professors like to word their questions in tricky ways, so I try to make sure I don't fall for those traps). Maybe I am stupid, idk.

It says it conducts those surveys to be less biased, but idk.

it also infers that I'm a south asian.

Btw I am kidding about taking their traits predictions seriously. They are pretty laughable.

[Myanthropologies]

But I have learned that I am quite a West eurasian mutt. I have shifts towards SO many populations genetically, that I am crazy. The only thing I am missing is black and east asian dna, but technically I score 1.33 SSA on some calculators and some east asian, so there's that.

[Hadouken]

But I have learned that I am quite a West eurasian mutt. I have shifts towards SO many populations genetically, that I am crazy.

why do you think that . what do you base this on ?

[Mingle]

What constitutes the categories 'Indus-Valley' and 'Indo-Iranian'?

[Myanthropologies]

why do you think that . what do you base this on ?

Because of what I recieved on gedmatch calculators.

[Myanthropologies]

What constitutes the categories 'Indus-Valley' and 'Indo-Iranian'?

Pathan, Burusho, Sindhi, and some other ethnicities. Central indo European is basically a middle eastern category too.

[Myanthropologies]

I've uploaded to gene plaza too, and I'm still waiting on MyHeritage results which should be here very soon.

[Hadouken]

Because of what I recieved on gedmatch calculators.

what exactly do you mean though can you show me please

[Myanthropologies]

what exactly do you mean though can you show me please

In my original dna results thread, go look at the mixed modes

[Hadouken]

In my original dna results thread, go look at the mixed modes

first of all I want to say that I am asking purely because of curiousity and because I dont know what exactly you mean . I am not trying to disagree or confront you or something . I have the feeling you are interpreting it incorrectly though

do you mean these :

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.7% Pathan (derived) + 41.3% Tadjik (derived) @ 2.87
2 62.5% Tadjik (derived) + 37.5% Sindhi (derived) @ 3.6
3 82.3% Pathan (derived) + 17.7% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 3.9
4 72.3% Tadjik (derived) + 27.7% Jew_India (derived) @ 3.92
5 83.1% Pathan (derived) + 16.9% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 4.03
6 79.5% Pathan (derived) + 20.5% Nogai (derived) @ 4.08
7 79.8% Pathan (derived) + 20.2% Cirkassian (derived) @ 4.17
8 78.7% Pathan (derived) + 21.3% Kumyk (derived) @ 4.26
9 79.9% Pathan (derived) + 20.1% Balkarian (derived) @ 4.3
10 87.3% Pathan (derived) + 12.7% Gagauz (derived) @ 4.32
11 80.3% Pathan (derived) + 19.7% Adygei (derived) @ 4.36
12 79.2% Pathan (derived) + 20.8% Tabassaran (derived) @ 4.41
13 86.8% Pathan (derived) + 13.2% Greek_North (derived) @ 4.42
14 80.2% Pathan (derived) + 19.8% Kabardinian (derived) @ 4.44
15 88.1% Pathan (derived) + 11.9% Bulgarian (derived) @ 4.45
16 87.4% Pathan (derived) + 12.6% Ashkenazim_V (derived) @ 4.51
17 80.2% Pathan (derived) + 19.8% Chechen (derived) @ 4.53
18 88.6% Pathan (derived) + 11.4% Macedonian (derived) @ 4.54
19 87% Pathan (derived) + 13% Greek_South (derived) @ 4.56
20 69% Burusho (derived) + 31% Tabassaran (derived) @

1 90.8% Pashtun + 9.2% Ajv52 @ 3.21
2 70.4% Tadjik + 29.6% Jew_India @ 3.42
3 82.1% Pathan + 17.9% Tatar_Crim @ 3.5
4 60.2% Pathan + 39.8% Tadjik @ 3.63
5 82.9% Pathan + 17.1% Greek_Azov @ 3.7
6 86.6% Pathan + 13.4% Gagauz @ 3.86
7 79.6% Pathan + 20.4% Nogai @ 3.86
8 86.5% Pathan + 13.5% Ashkenazim_V @ 3.9
9 79.3% Pathan + 20.7% Cirkassian @ 3.9
10 87.3% Pathan + 12.7% Bulgarian @ 4.01
11 81.3% Balochi + 18.7% Mordovian_V @ 4.01
12 87.7% Pathan + 12.3% Latvian_V @ 4.02
13 87.6% Pathan + 12.4% Macedonian @ 4.04
14 78% Pathan + 22% Kumyk @ 4.06
15 86.5% Pathan + 13.5% Greek_North @ 4.06
16 81.5% Balochi + 18.5% Mordovian @ 4.06
17 82.9% Balochi + 17.1% Swedish_V @ 4.07
18 86.4% Pathan + 13.6% Jew_Romania @ 4.11
19 79.2% Pathan + 20.8% Adygei @ 4.15
20 88.2% Pathan + 11.8% Bosnian @ 4.15


...

etc

[Myanthropologies]

first of all I want to say that I am asking purely because of curiousity and because I dont know what exactly you mean . I am not trying to disagree or confront you or something . I have the feeling you are interpreting it incorrectly though

do you mean these :

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 58.7% Pathan (derived) + 41.3% Tadjik (derived) @ 2.87
2 62.5% Tadjik (derived) + 37.5% Sindhi (derived) @ 3.6
3 82.3% Pathan (derived) + 17.7% Tatar_Crim (derived) @ 3.9
4 72.3% Tadjik (derived) + 27.7% Jew_India (derived) @ 3.92
5 83.1% Pathan (derived) + 16.9% Greek_Azov (derived) @ 4.03
6 79.5% Pathan (derived) + 20.5% Nogai (derived) @ 4.08
7 79.8% Pathan (derived) + 20.2% Cirkassian (derived) @ 4.17
8 78.7% Pathan (derived) + 21.3% Kumyk (derived) @ 4.26
9 79.9% Pathan (derived) + 20.1% Balkarian (derived) @ 4.3
10 87.3% Pathan (derived) + 12.7% Gagauz (derived) @ 4.32
11 80.3% Pathan (derived) + 19.7% Adygei (derived) @ 4.36
12 79.2% Pathan (derived) + 20.8% Tabassaran (derived) @ 4.41
13 86.8% Pathan (derived) + 13.2% Greek_North (derived) @ 4.42
14 80.2% Pathan (derived) + 19.8% Kabardinian (derived) @ 4.44
15 88.1% Pathan (derived) + 11.9% Bulgarian (derived) @ 4.45
16 87.4% Pathan (derived) + 12.6% Ashkenazim_V (derived) @ 4.51
17 80.2% Pathan (derived) + 19.8% Chechen (derived) @ 4.53
18 88.6% Pathan (derived) + 11.4% Macedonian (derived) @ 4.54
19 87% Pathan (derived) + 13% Greek_South (derived) @ 4.56
20 69% Burusho (derived) + 31% Tabassaran (derived) @

1 90.8% Pashtun + 9.2% Ajv52 @ 3.21
2 70.4% Tadjik + 29.6% Jew_India @ 3.42
3 82.1% Pathan + 17.9% Tatar_Crim @ 3.5
4 60.2% Pathan + 39.8% Tadjik @ 3.63
5 82.9% Pathan + 17.1% Greek_Azov @ 3.7
6 86.6% Pathan + 13.4% Gagauz @ 3.86
7 79.6% Pathan + 20.4% Nogai @ 3.86
8 86.5% Pathan + 13.5% Ashkenazim_V @ 3.9
9 79.3% Pathan + 20.7% Cirkassian @ 3.9
10 87.3% Pathan + 12.7% Bulgarian @ 4.01
11 81.3% Balochi + 18.7% Mordovian_V @ 4.01
12 87.7% Pathan + 12.3% Latvian_V @ 4.02
13 87.6% Pathan + 12.4% Macedonian @ 4.04
14 78% Pathan + 22% Kumyk @ 4.06
15 86.5% Pathan + 13.5% Greek_North @ 4.06
16 81.5% Balochi + 18.5% Mordovian @ 4.06
17 82.9% Balochi + 17.1% Swedish_V @ 4.07
18 86.4% Pathan + 13.6% Jew_Romania @ 4.11
19 79.2% Pathan + 20.8% Adygei @ 4.15
20 88.2% Pathan + 11.8% Bosnian @ 4.15


...

etc

Yes, but they keep changing depending on the calculator, and I don't know what to think anymore.

[Hadouken]

Yes, but they keep changing depending on the calculator, and I don't know what to think anymore.

Pathans are from pakistan. lets take this as an example : 82.9% Pathan + 17.1% Greek_Azov @ 3.7

it basically means that to be 82.9% Pathan you would need to be 17.1% Azov Greek to "even it out" . it means that you are 17.1% like an azov greek compared to the average pathan person

it does not mean that you are pathan or azov greek

to look what kind of shift you "really" have you have to take your own ethnic group as first population

[Myanthropologies]

Pathans are from pakistan. lets take this as an example : 82.9% Pathan + 17.1% Greek_Azov @ 3.7

it basically means that to be 82.9% Pathan you would need to be 17.1% Azov Greek to "even it out" . it means that you are 17.1% like an azov greek compared to the average pathan person

it does not mean that you are pathan or azov greek

to look what kind of shift you "really" have you have to take your own ethnic group as first population

Pathans are still pashtuns though

[Hadouken]

Pathans are still pashtuns though

but they are a little different as you see proven through the tests thats why afghan pashtuns have a shift towards west/northwest (or the other way around)

[Hadouken]

but they are a little different as you see proven through the tests thats why afghan pashtuns have a shift towards west/northwest (or the other way around)

in fact there is a decent difference and not just a little

another afghan pashtun example

eurogenes k13

Admix Results (sorted):

1 West_Asian 40.22
2 South_Asian 25.74
3 Baltic 10.76
4 East_Med 8.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.64
6 Siberian 2.92
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 Amerindian 1.29
9 Northeast_African 1
10 West_Med 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

1 Afghan_Pashtun 2.88
2 Kalash 11.42
3 Tadjik 11.89
4 Pathan 13.26
5 Makrani 13.99
6 Afghan_Tadjik 14.28
7 Balochi 14.88
8 Burusho 14.89
9 Brahui 15.93
10 Punjabi_Jat 17.67
11 Sindhi 19.4
12 Tabassaran 20.21
13 Turkmen 20.58
14 Lezgin 21.56
15 Chechen 21.8
16 Kumyk 22.13
17 Kabardin 23.07
18 Adygei 23.56
19 Balkar 24.09
20 Ossetian 24.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 3.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.59
2 95.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 4.9% Iranian @ 2.59
3 97.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.59
4 97% Afghan_Pashtun + 3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.62
5 98% Afghan_Pashtun + 2% Saudi @ 2.64
6 95.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 4.3% Kurdish @ 2.64
7 97.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.5% Jordanian @ 2.64
8 97.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.4% Palestinian @ 2.64
9 62.2% Pathan + 37.8% Lezgin @ 2.64
10 96.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 3.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.64
11 97% Afghan_Pashtun + 3% Assyrian @ 2.64
12 97.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.64
13 97.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.3% Samaritan @ 2.65
14 97.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.66
15 98.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 1.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 2.66
16 97.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.3% Bedouin @ 2.66
17 98.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 1.5% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 2.67
18 97.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.6% Syrian @ 2.68
19 97.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.68
20 98% Afghan_Pashtun + 2% Egyptian @ 2.69

[Myanthropologies]

in fact there is a decent difference and not just a little

another afghan pashtun example

eurogenes k13

Admix Results (sorted):

1 West_Asian 40.22
2 South_Asian 25.74
3 Baltic 10.76
4 East_Med 8.81
5 North_Atlantic 7.64
6 Siberian 2.92
7 Red_Sea 1.54
8 Amerindian 1.29
9 Northeast_African 1
10 West_Med 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

1 Afghan_Pashtun 2.88
2 Kalash 11.42
3 Tadjik 11.89
4 Pathan 13.26
5 Makrani 13.99
6 Afghan_Tadjik 14.28
7 Balochi 14.88
8 Burusho 14.89
9 Brahui 15.93
10 Punjabi_Jat 17.67
11 Sindhi 19.4
12 Tabassaran 20.21
13 Turkmen 20.58
14 Lezgin 21.56
15 Chechen 21.8
16 Kumyk 22.13
17 Kabardin 23.07
18 Adygei 23.56
19 Balkar 24.09
20 Ossetian 24.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 3.2% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.59
2 95.1% Afghan_Pashtun + 4.9% Iranian @ 2.59
3 97.9% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.1% Yemenite_Jewish @ 2.59
4 97% Afghan_Pashtun + 3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.62
5 98% Afghan_Pashtun + 2% Saudi @ 2.64
6 95.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 4.3% Kurdish @ 2.64
7 97.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.5% Jordanian @ 2.64
8 97.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.4% Palestinian @ 2.64
9 62.2% Pathan + 37.8% Lezgin @ 2.64
10 96.8% Afghan_Pashtun + 3.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.64
11 97% Afghan_Pashtun + 3% Assyrian @ 2.64
12 97.6% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.64
13 97.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.3% Samaritan @ 2.65
14 97.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.66
15 98.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 1.6% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 2.66
16 97.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.3% Bedouin @ 2.66
17 98.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 1.5% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 2.67
18 97.4% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.6% Syrian @ 2.68
19 97.5% Afghan_Pashtun + 2.5% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.68
20 98% Afghan_Pashtun + 2% Egyptian @ 2.69

But even so, Afghans seem very mutty compared to everyone else that posts on this site. My results were pretty much what I was expecting, but it's weird. Sometimes I score European shift compared to average afghan, other times indian shift compared to average afghan, and other times jewish. I even got predicted to be a rare haplogroup shared with ashkenazi jews, sefardics, Pashtuns, and Levantines, and NOT r1a1. This shocks me considering that about 25 - 30% of my DNA is "aryan," which should be more than enough to make me r1a1 like most afghans. My male side appears to have originated in the levant and moved to afghanistan.

[Hadouken]

But even so, Afghans seem very mutty compared to everyone else that posts on this site. My results were pretty much what I was expecting, but it's weird. Sometimes I score European shift compared to average afghan, other times indian shift compared to average afghan, and other times jewish. I even got predicted to be a rare haplogroup shared with ashkenazi jews, sefardics, Pashtuns, and Levantines, and NOT r1a1. This shocks me considering that about 25 - 30% of my DNA is "aryan," which should be more than enough to make me r1a1 like most afghans. My male side appears to have originated in the levant and moved to afghanistan.

those different shifts are normal because if you for example (compared to other people from your ethnicity) would score a little higher baltic , a little higher red sea , and a little higher east asian then it just generates several distances using different ethnicities which would match those component shifts and would give you something like :

(these are my own creations of how it might look like . not taken from any calculator but from my own beautiful fingers)

1. 95% Afghan Pashtun + 5% Lithuanian @2.45

2. 95% Afghan Pashtun + 5% Bedouin @ 2.46

3. 95% Afghan Pashtun + 5% Zhaoyun @ 2.47

etc.

if you know what I mean . this was just roughly explained of course and it is more complex than that

.

haplogroups are only a small part of our dna so I wouldnt be too hung up on it . my opinion

[Myanthropologies]

those different shifts are normal because if you for example (compared to other people from your ethnicity) would score a little higher baltic , a little higher red sea , and a little higher east asian then it just generates several distances using different ethnicities which would match those component shifts and would give you something like :

(these are my own creations of how it might look like . not taken from any calculator but from my own beautiful fingers)

1. 95% Afghan Pashtun + 5% Lithuanian @2.45

2. 95% Afghan Pashtun + 5% Bedouin @ 2.46

3. 95% Afghan Pashtun + 5% Zhaoyun @ 2.47

etc.

if you know what I mean . this was just roughly explained of course and it is more complex than that

.

haplogroups are only a small part of our dna so I wouldnt be too hung up on it . my opinion

Ok so what about this trait prediction thing? Why does dna land say that my genetics predisposition me to be as dumb as a bag of rocks?

[Hadouken]

Ok so what about this trait prediction thing? Why does dna land say that my genetics predisposition me to be as dumb as a bag of rocks?

lol I dont know but I wouldnt take them too serious . dnaland and similar are odd and also have weird components and ethnic sampling which often also seems kinda random to me . 23andme (and similar) + gedmatch is what I would put the biggest "focus" on even though those are of course not perfection either I guess but give a good rough idea of ancestry

[Myanthropologies]

lol I dont know but I wouldnt take them too serious . dnaland and similar are odd and also have weird components and ethnic sampling which often also seems kinda random to me . 23andme (and similar) + gedmatch is what I would put the biggest "focus" on even though those are of course not perfection either I guess but give a good rough idea of ancestry

Yeah, I compared afghan results on gedmatch today, and my results seemed a lot more normal to me after looking at theirs. One thing I noticed though, is that 23andme afghans were very North Caucasus shifted, while ancestry ones were more Kalash and Balochi shifted. I wonder if different dna kits could result in different gedmatch results. I will be buying a 23andme very soon, so we'll find out.

[lameduck]

Yeah, I compared afghan results on gedmatch today, and my results seemed a lot more normal to me after looking at theirs. One thing I noticed though, is that 23andme afghans were very North Caucasus shifted, while ancestry ones were more Kalash and Balochi shifted. I wonder if different dna kits could result in different gedmatch results. I will be buying a 23andme very soon, so we'll find out.

you should compare your results to 2 chitrali samples on anthrogenica I am sure you will find most commonality with them.

[lameduck]

Pathans are still pashtuns though

pathan are a mixture of 22 Pashtun samples some are like Jatts/Kashmiris and other more west shifted than many Afghan Pashtuns. Pashtuns are a diverse people we dont have any Pashtun sample from Balochistan

[Myanthropologies]

you should compare your results to 2 chitrali samples on anthrogenica I am sure you will find most commonality with them.

What's chitral again? Is that like Kalash?

Also, I have a question about the Kalash. What do they look like in person? (Since you live in Pakistan). Is the light features among them heavily over exaggerated? Or do they really look like that?

[lameduck]

What's chitral again? Is that like Kalash?

Also, I have a question about the Kalash. What do they look like in person? (Since you live in Pakistan). Is the light features among them heavily over exaggerated? Or do they really look like that?

to be frank light features are Exaggerated among all the groups in the region but some can really light overall they are not much different from average chitrali

some pictures from chitral by some guy on Pakistan defence forum

https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/15698304_1481274791901508_2339198571257895711_n-jpeg.364912/
https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/football_match_in_chitral_by_vashain-d53rrx2-jpeg.364914/
https://defence.pk/pdf/attachments/ch-jpeg.364913/

[Nilab]

It doesn't seem that way, since this is what a self proclaimed Punjabi gets on dna land

http://tanmoy.tripod.com/DNALand1.png

Lol, "Bhattacharya'' is a Bengali Brahmin name. That guy's Bengali. Come on dude, I've seen many Punjabi results on DNA Land. Sindhis are used as reference for Indus Valley, and they are more or less genetically identical to most Punjabis.

[Nilab]

Pathans are from pakistan. lets take this as an example : 82.9% Pathan + 17.1% Greek_Azov @ 3.7

it basically means that to be 82.9% Pathan you would need to be 17.1% Azov Greek to "even it out" . it means that you are 17.1% like an azov greek compared to the average pathan person

it does not mean that you are pathan or azov greek

to look what kind of shift you "really" have you have to take your own ethnic group as first population

The genetic difference between Pashtuns is more on a North vs South axis rather than East vs West or Afghan vs Pakistan Pashtuns.
Pashtuns from Eastern Afghanistan score identical to the Pakistani Pashtuns, while some Pakistani Pashtuns (from the southern Pashtun belt) can be less South Asian shifted than some Afghan Pashtuns.

[Norb]

buy a 23andme kit, you might find that you are R1a1a :confused:

[Myanthropologies]

buy a 23andme kit, you might find that you are R1a1a :confused:

I think I'm gonna lol. I find that Afghans who buy 23andme are more similar to each other on gedmatch and Afghans who do ancestry are more similar to each other on gedmatch. I wonder if there is a difference between the tests.

[Noman]

I think I'm gonna lol. I find that Afghans who buy 23andme are more similar to each other on gedmatch and Afghans who do ancestry are more similar to each other on gedmatch. I wonder if there is a difference between the tests.

Instead of buying a kit, why don't you upload your raw data to wegene? It does predict haplogroups for free.

[Leto]

Instead of buying a kit, why don't you upload your raw data to wegene? It does predict haplogroups for free.
Oh really? How reliable is their prediction?

[Lucas]

Instead of buying a kit, why don't you upload your raw data to wegene? It does predict haplogroups for free.

But those chinese fuckers don't accept FTDNA... I tried even to convert to 23&me or Ancestry format. No way.

[Leto]

But those chinese fuckers don't accept FTDNA... I tried even to convert to 23&me or Ancestry format. No way.
That's fucking sad... I was hoping to upload my FTDNA raw data on there, because an actual Y-DNA test is too expensive for me.

[Not a Cop]

That's fucking sad... I was hoping to upload my FTDNA raw data on there, because an actual Y-DNA test is too expensive for me.


But those chinese fuckers don't accept FTDNA... I tried even to convert to 23&me or Ancestry format. No way.


Obviously FTDNA would not include haplogroup-determining snps in their Autosomal test snp-package, they are not that stupid, obviously they want to make some extra $.

[RN97]

I think I'm gonna lol. I find that Afghans who buy 23andme are more similar to each other on gedmatch and Afghans who do ancestry are more similar to each other on gedmatch. I wonder if there is a difference between the tests.

Have you not found out your haplogroups? I think there are websites that does that for free.
Upload your data to WEGENE and see if they give it to you.

[RN97]

Oh really? How reliable is their prediction?

It gave me the same as 23andme, so probably as reliable as 23andme.

[Noman]

Oh really? How reliable is their prediction?
For me, it was accurate.

But those chinese fuckers don't accept FTDNA... I tried even to convert to 23&me or Ancestry format. No way.

Did you try nevgen?
Also, this one?
https://dna.jameslick.com/mthap/FASTA.html

[Leto]

Did you try nevgen?
How to use it?

[Lucas]

How to use it?

Nevgen for FTDNA users is simple, but only when you have at least basic y-dna snps bought (in my case Y37). It would help you determining specific subclade.

[Lek]

Some of the slavic could be N European absorbed from a Greek ancestor, since I also have a chunk of med ancestry too, and due to the fact that I have a tiny bit more European dna than average pashtuns

# Population Percent
1 West-Asian 40.1
2 Indian 21.22
3 North-East-European 12.21
4 Indo-Iranian 7.2
5 Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 4.31
6 North-European-Mesolithic 3.55
7 Samoedic 3.29
8 Near_East 2.35
9 Mesoamerican 1.27
10 Paleo-Siberian 1.19
11 Austronesian 1.08
12 Indo-Tibetan 0.98
13 North-Amerind 0.71
14 East-Siberean 0.33
15 Arctic-Amerind 0.22

I score a lot of " Pathan + 11% Albanian," or "Pathan + 15% Greek" on some calcuoators. I have a shift towards everyone in W. Eurasia though, based off my gedmatch, but I still cluster with afghans.

Thats WHG and more ancient.


Neither. It's slavic since he also scores north slavic.

Says right on the DNA land page what it is.



https://s20.postimg.org/4s7ed9duz/IMG_20170715_111846.png

[Registan]

here r my DNA land results for comparison, I'm 1/2 Tajik and 1/2 Pashtun.

http://i.imgur.com/0gt5qCU.png


Shaikorth from AG uploaded one of the Scythian samples on DNA Land too, it scores Indus Valley, Mid-Turkic & Kalash


IA Scythian:
96% West Eurasian

43% North-Central European
16% North Slavic
11% Finnish
14% Mid-Turkic
11% Indus Valley
2.3% Kalash

3% Tubalar

1.2% Ambiguous

[Leto]

here r my DNA land results for comparison, I'm 1/2 Tajik and 1/2 Pashtun.
I wonder what you score on Eurogenes K13.

[Registan]

I wonder what you score on Eurogenes K13.

Similar to Afghan Pashtuns & Tajik subgroups like Ishkashimis and Panjshiris, they're not on this calculator tho

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 44
2 South_Asian 25.94
3 Baltic 12.38
4 East_Med 5.78
5 North_Atlantic 5.22
6 Amerindian 2.66
7 Siberian 1.96
8 Sub-Saharan 1.09
9 Oceanian 0.59
10 East_Asian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 5.6
2 Kalash 9.2
3 Balochi 12.67
4 Pathan 13.37
5 Makrani 13.38
6 Brahui 13.86
7 Burusho 14.42
8 Tadjik 14.66
9 Afghan_Tadjik 16.62
10 Punjabi_Jat 17.94
11 Sindhi 19.36
12 Tabassaran 20.63
13 Lezgin 22.08
14 Chechen 22.11
15 Kumyk 23.57
16 Kabardin 23.66
17 Turkmen 23.77
18 Adygei 24.16
19 North_Ossetian 24.48
20 Ossetian 24.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% Kalash + 28.7% Lezgin @ 2.66
2 72.7% Kalash + 27.3% Kumyk @ 2.71
3 71.5% Kalash + 28.5% Chechen @ 2.81
4 73.3% Kalash + 26.7% Adygei @ 2.83
5 73.6% Kalash + 26.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.96
6 73.1% Kalash + 26.9% Kabardin @ 3.15
7 74% Kalash + 26% Balkar @ 3.26
8 70.3% Kalash + 29.7% Tabassaran @ 3.28
9 74.4% Kalash + 25.6% Ossetian @ 3.81
10 77.6% Kalash + 22.4% Georgian @ 3.96
11 61.3% Pathan + 38.7% Tabassaran @ 3.97
12 80% Brahui + 20% Erzya @ 3.97
13 80.3% Brahui + 19.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.09
14 78.3% Kalash + 21.7% Abhkasian @ 4.1
15 63.1% Pathan + 36.9% Chechen @ 4.16
16 63.1% Pathan + 36.9% Lezgin @ 4.17
17 81.7% Balochi + 18.3% Erzya @ 4.22
18 81.7% Brahui + 18.3% East_Finnish @ 4.37
19 81.9% Balochi + 18.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.4
20 81.8% Brahui + 18.2% Lithuanian @ 4.48

[Leto]

Similar to Afghan Pashtuns & Tajik subgroups like Ishkashimis and Panjshiris, they're not on this calculator tho

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 44
2 South_Asian 25.94
3 Baltic 12.38
4 East_Med 5.78
5 North_Atlantic 5.22
6 Amerindian 2.66
7 Siberian 1.96
8 Sub-Saharan 1.09
9 Oceanian 0.59
10 East_Asian 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 5.6
2 Kalash 9.2
3 Balochi 12.67
4 Pathan 13.37
5 Makrani 13.38
6 Brahui 13.86
7 Burusho 14.42
8 Tadjik 14.66
9 Afghan_Tadjik 16.62
10 Punjabi_Jat 17.94
11 Sindhi 19.36
12 Tabassaran 20.63
13 Lezgin 22.08
14 Chechen 22.11
15 Kumyk 23.57
16 Kabardin 23.66
17 Turkmen 23.77
18 Adygei 24.16
19 North_Ossetian 24.48
20 Ossetian 24.66

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% Kalash + 28.7% Lezgin @ 2.66
2 72.7% Kalash + 27.3% Kumyk @ 2.71
3 71.5% Kalash + 28.5% Chechen @ 2.81
4 73.3% Kalash + 26.7% Adygei @ 2.83
5 73.6% Kalash + 26.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.96
6 73.1% Kalash + 26.9% Kabardin @ 3.15
7 74% Kalash + 26% Balkar @ 3.26
8 70.3% Kalash + 29.7% Tabassaran @ 3.28
9 74.4% Kalash + 25.6% Ossetian @ 3.81
10 77.6% Kalash + 22.4% Georgian @ 3.96
11 61.3% Pathan + 38.7% Tabassaran @ 3.97
12 80% Brahui + 20% Erzya @ 3.97
13 80.3% Brahui + 19.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.09
14 78.3% Kalash + 21.7% Abhkasian @ 4.1
15 63.1% Pathan + 36.9% Chechen @ 4.16
16 63.1% Pathan + 36.9% Lezgin @ 4.17
17 81.7% Balochi + 18.3% Erzya @ 4.22
18 81.7% Brahui + 18.3% East_Finnish @ 4.37
19 81.9% Balochi + 18.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.4
20 81.8% Brahui + 18.2% Lithuanian @ 4.48
Great results, I accidentally have your kit number, lol.