Post your matching segments with Kleitos and Revenia Neolithic Greek genomes.

[Voskos]

1.Log in on Gedmatch
2.One-to-one compare
3.Enter each time the kit number you're comparing yourself to and your kit.
4.Type 50 in ''SNP count minimum threshold to be considered a matching segment''.
5. Type 1 where it says ''Minimum segment cM size to be included in total''
6.Post your total shared and largest segment.

Gedmatch kit numbers (found them posted on another forum):

Revenia Central Greece: Z394045
Kleitos Neolithic: Z732775

[Voskos]

My own result:

Revenia:

Largest segment = 2.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 124.9 cM
93 matching segments

Kleitos:

Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 210.7 cM
156 matching segments

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Revenia:

Largest segment = 4.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 96.4 cM
60 matching segments

151927 SNPs used for this comparison.

Kleitos:

Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 240.9 cM
163 matching segments

[oszkar07]

My own result:

Revenia:

Largest segment = 2.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 124.9 cM
93 matching segments

Kleitos:

Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 210.7 cM
156 matching segments



Revenia
Largest segment = 3.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 110.7 cM
80 matching segments

Kleitos
Largest segment = 2.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 201.2 cM
151 matching segments

472722 SNPs used for this comparison.

[frankhammer]

Revenia:

Largest segment = 4.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 109.4 cM
76 matching segments

251625 SNPs used for this comparison.

Kleitos:

Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 212.8 cM
153 matching segments

324136 SNPs used for this comparison.

[RN97]

Revenia:

Largest segment = 2.6 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 15.8 cM
7 matching segments

Kleitos:
Largest segment = 2.6 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 15.7 cM
7 matching segments

[Voskos]

Revenia:

Largest segment = 2.6 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 15.8 cM
7 matching segments

Kleitos:
Largest segment = 2.6 cM
Total of segments > 2 cM = 15.7 cM
7 matching segments

you should have used 1 centimorgan instead of 2 to compare to the rest of us bro.

[Peterski]

Revenia:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

Largest segment = 2.8 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 109.5 cM
83 matching segments

364789 SNPs used for this comparison.

Kleitos:

Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM

Largest segment = 3.6 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 217.3 cM
158 matching segments

472040 SNPs used for this comparison.

[MysteriousWays]

Revenia: Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 119.0 cM
84 matching segments

Kleitos: Largest segment = 3.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 231.7 cM
165 matching segments

[Voskos]

Sharing with LBK stuttgart:

Revenia:
Largest segment = 2.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 116.2 cM
86 matching segments

Kleitos:
Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 230.8 cM
172 matching segments

[Dibran]

1.Log in on Gedmatch
2.One-to-one compare
3.Enter each time the kit number you're comparing yourself to and your kit.
4.Type 50 in ''SNP count minimum threshold to be considered a matching segment''.
5. Type 1 where it says ''Minimum segment cM size to be included in total''
6.Post your total shared and largest segment.

Gedmatch kit numbers (found them posted on another forum):

Revenia Central Greece: Z394045
Kleitos Neolithic: Z732775


23andme:

Revenia Central Greece:

Largest segment = 3.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 108.4 cM
78 matching segments


Kleitos Neolithic:

Largest segment = 3.6 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 247.2 cM
177 matching segments


LivingDNA:


Revenia Central Greece:

Largest segment = 5.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 110.8 cM
49 matching segments


Kleitos Neolithic:

Largest segment = 6.0 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 215.5 cM
107 matching segments

[Dibran]

Father:

Revenia Central Greece:

Largest segment = 3.5 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 121.1 cM
80 matching segments


Kleitos Neolithic:

Largest segment = 5.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 240.5 cM
172 matching segments

Albanian friend from Montenegro:

Revenia Central Greece:[/B]

Largest segment = 3.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 139.4 cM
101 matching segments


Kleitos Neolithic:
Largest segment = 2.6 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 219.9 cM
161 matching segments

[firemonkey]

Revenia


Largest segment = 2.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 101.7 cM
73 matching segments


Kleitos

Largest segment = 2.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 223.6 cM
163 matching segments

[Hadouken]

I didnt understand what you mean by " 3.Enter each time the kit number you're comparing yourself to and your kit." so I didnt do that step

however these are my results . can you tell me something about them ? I dont understand at all what it means

Revenia :

Largest segment = 3.0 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 130.3 cM
89 matching segments

Keltos :

Largest segment = 3.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 236.7 cM
165 matching segments

[Voskos]

I didnt understand what you mean by " 3.Enter each time the kit number you're comparing yourself to and your kit." so I didnt do that step

however these are my results . can you tell me something about them ? I dont understand at all what it means

Revenia :

Largest segment = 3.0 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 130.3 cM
89 matching segments

Keltos :

Largest segment = 3.1 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 236.7 cM
165 matching segments

You did it right.

Basically it means you match these genomes in several segments(chunks) of your DNA/chromosomes.
largest segment=largest DNA sequence you have in common, which is inherited from a common ancestor.(cM is the unit of distance on your DNA sequence)
total of segments= sum of lengths of all shared DNA segments between you and the ancient genome you compare to

[Hadouken]

You did it right.

Basically it means you match these genomes in several segments(chunks) of your DNA/chromosomes.
largest segment=largest DNA sequence you have in common, which is inherited from a common ancestor.(cM is the unit of distance on your DNA sequence)
total of segments= sum of lengths of all shared DNA segments between you and the ancient genome you compare to

but how to tell if it is a "good" match or not ?

the cM value ? if yes would a higher cM number mean a better match ?

[Voskos]

but how to tell if it is a "good" match or not ?

the cM value ? if yes would a higher cM number mean a better match ?

I think the size of largest segment gives you an idea how recent your common ancestor is. (higher size, more recent relatedness)
But since these genomes are ancient the most important part is the ''Total of segments'' in cM, which tells you how much total sequence you have inherited from common ancestors.

[Lek]

Revenia, Central Greece 6438–6264 BCE)


Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 742,584 1,323,461 1.7 53
1 11,773,514 12,522,162 2.2 102
1 39,051,415 39,807,769 1.2 78
1 57,954,739 58,557,091 1.2 101
1 199,827,740 200,233,397 1.0 67
1 234,220,635 234,748,613 1.7 88
2 8,103,925 8,473,964 1.4 51
2 14,583,958 15,719,001 2.0 125
2 72,185,396 73,380,010 1.5 71
2 218,968,088 219,571,833 1.1 67
2 220,918,572 221,393,273 1.0 53
2 232,242,128 233,009,060 1.1 61
3 4,097,269 4,537,667 1.3 64
3 30,763,983 31,406,726 1.0 89
3 55,033,601 55,869,991 1.5 129
3 149,237,723 150,098,385 1.9 110
3 183,235,313 183,922,829 1.1 57
3 186,634,579 187,330,135 1.6 64
3 188,827,629 189,206,595 1.0 64
4 148,237,037 149,259,610 1.0 91
5 5,339,424 5,655,530 1.1 60
5 31,967,892 32,457,607 1.1 76
5 36,766,982 37,932,397 1.5 90
5 38,406,013 38,791,397 1.1 53
5 149,917,932 150,365,152 1.1 58
5 163,910,557 164,575,083 1.1 62
5 166,850,457 167,362,635 1.0 98
5 172,686,970 173,137,664 1.5 89
6 3,926,939 4,294,813 1.0 50
6 7,016,509 7,487,273 1.1 53
6 8,918,551 9,608,255 1.4 72
6 12,712,067 13,279,022 1.1 64
6 14,875,398 15,416,099 1.1 59
6 138,503,568 138,981,368 1.1 77
6 167,624,934 168,132,173 1.7 56
7 5,469,490 6,452,037 1.8 104
8 58,314,091 59,049,005 1.0 106
8 137,390,988 138,054,022 1.0 81
9 16,988,460 17,492,006 1.2 62
10 116,483,073 117,474,451 1.1 84
10 127,003,991 127,379,786 1.0 62
11 13,591,448 15,054,066 1.1 200
11 22,761,657 23,515,688 1.2 130
11 29,910,965 31,755,400 1.2 151
12 15,390,903 15,971,916 1.0 71
12 28,919,237 29,540,694 1.1 103
12 50,893,677 51,387,935 1.0 109
12 105,225,552 105,891,355 1.1 58
12 112,015,282 112,683,307 1.0 69
12 128,620,858 129,016,782 1.8 80
13 20,775,479 21,257,400 1.3 54
13 92,953,374 93,735,546 1.7 109
14 36,494,521 37,388,198 1.3 83
14 94,995,772 95,567,884 1.5 110
14 96,665,141 97,161,799 1.6 56
14 102,839,348 103,576,402 1.0 78
15 24,603,621 24,962,324 1.3 55
15 55,972,654 56,378,235 1.3 101
15 68,711,570 69,314,187 1.2 66
15 76,286,842 77,114,282 1.3 118
15 79,144,802 79,747,464 1.4 64
16 395,647 857,121 1.8 59
16 8,039,958 8,358,577 1.1 71
17 4,930,050 5,423,583 1.1 83
17 6,787,797 7,186,095 1.1 66
17 14,576,185 14,770,640 1.1 64
17 51,207,110 51,755,304 1.2 73
17 53,591,578 56,634,488 2.4 250
17 73,341,718 73,746,610 1.4 54
17 77,291,775 78,047,222 1.2 52
18 4,787,073 5,327,438 2.1 77
18 5,886,376 6,387,477 2.0 78
19 9,086,685 9,790,038 1.8 73
19 50,286,435 50,902,205 1.1 75
19 57,038,977 57,293,211 1.0 61
20 45,245,472 45,753,811 1.3 61
22 35,754,937 36,125,229 1.6 83
22 48,341,494 48,937,562 1.8 90
Largest segment = 2.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 103.0 cM
78 matching segments

364391 SNPs used for this comparison.

Comparison took 0.03509 seconds.

Kleitos Neolithic



Minimum threshold size to be included in total = 50 SNPs
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 25 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM


Chr Start Location End Location Centimorgans (cM) SNPs
1 988,258 1,489,161 2.3 82
1 6,404,503 6,981,737 1.2 99
1 12,086,658 12,522,983 1.2 68
1 15,656,358 16,128,231 1.1 63
1 35,090,695 36,524,997 1.2 151
1 53,783,514 54,362,776 1.0 91
1 145,574,517 149,227,054 2.3 234
1 205,378,104 206,253,528 1.0 97
1 229,256,441 229,995,177 1.0 127
1 238,757,054 239,055,012 1.1 68
2 1,402,069 2,204,151 1.2 166
2 15,211,208 15,904,729 1.7 130
2 19,947,614 20,566,396 1.2 120
2 21,458,630 22,593,033 1.2 107
2 131,205,583 132,197,350 1.3 98
2 220,783,166 221,270,224 1.0 90
2 238,805,421 239,160,293 1.1 56
3 3,220,960 3,623,076 1.7 116
3 32,866,280 34,224,897 1.2 188
3 63,648,835 64,187,236 1.1 99
3 143,292,674 144,009,284 1.2 70
3 144,627,258 145,284,386 1.2 134
3 183,940,453 184,426,976 1.0 70
3 184,693,666 185,223,828 1.0 139
3 185,990,795 187,305,047 2.4 174
3 192,755,108 193,243,145 1.0 78
4 1,406,863 2,273,805 1.1 86
4 32,608,339 34,827,632 1.4 175
4 52,983,033 54,146,003 1.0 130
4 73,727,289 75,082,861 1.2 145
4 98,203,977 99,707,335 1.0 108
4 141,058,619 141,745,154 1.2 101
4 153,155,005 154,219,717 1.9 154
4 154,459,926 155,037,972 1.0 93
4 186,995,059 187,284,806 1.3 71
5 10,016,889 10,513,216 1.4 130
5 36,738,621 37,910,166 1.5 108
5 92,516,207 94,224,367 1.2 149
5 140,337,727 141,317,310 1.9 192
5 142,010,526 142,394,741 1.1 80
5 149,902,401 150,410,889 1.3 109
5 175,138,227 175,845,600 1.2 80
6 42,594,666 43,153,440 1.1 68
6 90,834,315 91,463,530 1.2 102
6 138,416,692 139,238,554 1.8 178
6 162,562,714 163,169,635 1.2 126
7 30,356,390 31,138,056 1.4 175
7 39,613,030 40,778,604 1.0 111
7 73,174,007 75,424,472 1.8 154
7 97,097,180 98,036,932 1.2 120
7 141,809,654 142,636,684 1.1 102
8 6,719,403 7,230,125 1.3 75
8 17,926,763 18,476,588 1.2 254
8 28,363,830 29,377,401 2.2 143
8 98,159,762 99,005,354 1.1 139
8 123,130,649 123,607,038 1.1 61
8 125,186,458 125,921,534 1.3 136
8 139,948,754 140,287,442 1.1 83
9 1,790,027 2,133,221 1.2 80
9 16,953,863 17,599,045 1.4 105
9 101,718,994 103,308,163 1.5 224
9 137,671,780 137,956,999 1.1 53
10 4,649,197 5,094,290 1.0 108
10 66,976,875 67,748,487 1.2 160
10 77,343,635 78,302,839 1.3 154
10 111,338,316 112,384,024 1.1 150
10 116,556,540 117,491,664 1.0 95
10 126,875,842 127,431,429 1.5 101
11 297,036 688,807 1.4 86
11 128,109,220 128,826,236 1.4 133
12 15,581,218 16,167,708 1.0 78
12 52,720,544 53,376,839 1.1 117
12 115,656,052 116,024,277 1.0 62
12 124,463,116 124,884,895 1.2 92
12 127,816,953 128,043,318 1.2 67
12 130,756,911 131,531,403 1.4 99
13 24,652,696 25,463,645 2.1 139
13 30,478,145 30,993,644 1.3 126
13 42,787,037 43,536,373 1.6 161
13 78,482,141 79,533,458 1.2 155
13 93,035,432 93,597,058 1.2 97
13 99,908,242 100,329,135 1.2 78
13 103,367,246 103,786,016 1.0 106
13 103,813,224 104,209,913 1.3 107
13 109,299,721 109,613,401 1.4 68
13 110,227,028 110,688,557 1.3 111
14 20,701,168 21,101,843 2.5 72
14 56,579,754 57,375,098 1.2 135
14 95,020,253 95,567,884 1.5 137
14 98,126,364 98,485,630 1.1 106
15 25,671,399 27,169,755 4.0 120
15 56,650,818 57,266,981 1.3 71
15 64,291,211 64,653,234 1.1 54
15 67,323,849 67,836,165 1.1 79
15 68,795,974 69,299,369 1.0 63
15 86,394,453 86,981,750 1.1 116
15 90,917,523 91,377,986 1.8 91
15 99,429,582 99,798,898 1.6 112
16 10,566,629 11,115,374 1.2 120
16 17,816,884 19,151,088 2.9 104
16 77,856,312 78,212,573 1.7 108
17 1,179,989 1,562,843 1.2 76
17 3,754,781 4,272,267 1.2 76
17 4,605,480 5,373,392 1.6 148
17 11,611,814 12,089,547 1.3 71
17 52,433,692 52,823,445 1.1 66
17 53,591,578 55,504,527 1.4 224
17 55,536,333 56,634,488 1.0 93
18 5,469,093 5,752,618 1.0 76
18 6,030,528 6,391,072 1.4 51
18 13,913,273 14,574,494 1.0 56
18 21,662,768 22,569,191 1.6 157
18 44,707,927 45,624,932 1.5 145
18 54,426,126 54,905,030 1.0 79
18 56,096,582 57,031,654 1.6 156
18 69,656,491 70,003,297 1.3 90
18 70,380,790 70,931,091 1.9 81
19 8,214,446 8,587,588 1.4 71
19 13,746,484 14,385,126 1.6 90
19 47,223,025 48,507,408 1.1 107
19 53,293,324 53,820,584 1.8 145
19 58,801,619 59,107,797 1.8 63
19 59,509,847 59,864,351 1.4 79
20 11,244 295,459 1.4 74
20 359,842 580,504 1.2 50
20 38,190,416 38,800,027 1.0 99
20 46,290,630 46,866,456 1.1 134
20 48,766,488 49,237,114 1.1 112
20 52,219,266 52,700,084 1.3 104
20 53,976,613 54,454,096 1.5 101
20 58,764,720 59,037,337 1.6 77
21 15,674,288 16,223,628 1.3 87
21 17,878,576 18,188,480 1.0 54
21 20,131,790 20,705,800 1.2 104
21 27,843,561 28,359,408 1.0 84
21 38,131,514 38,651,410 1.1 84
22 24,159,084 24,492,775 1.0 50
22 43,112,879 43,266,482 1.0 69
22 46,103,192 46,449,278 1.1 82
Largest segment = 4.0 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 185.7 cM
139 matching segments

[Kelmendasi]

Revenia:
Largest segment = 3.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 138.6 cM
102 matching segments

Kleitos:
Largest segment = 3.9 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 220.9 cM
163 matching segments

[Kamal900]

Revenia Central Greece: Z394045
Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 123.0 cM
88 matching segments

Kleitos Neolithic: Z732775
Largest segment = 3.2 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 204.0 cM
153 matching segments

[Voskos]

Revenia:
Largest segment = 3.7 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 138.6 cM
102 matching segments

Kleitos:
Largest segment = 3.9 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 220.9 cM
163 matching segments

your result is almost identical to Dibran's malsor friend.it seems malesors are very homogenous.

[Lek]

Albanians who are more neolithic/Southern seem to match more. I guess Era would match these well.

[Wrong]

First:
Largest segment = 2.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 105.1 cM
79 matching segments

Second:
Largest segment = 3.5 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 168.0 cM
126 matching segments

[Kelmendasi]

your result is almost identical to Dibran's malsor friend.it seems malesors are very homogenous.
Yh we are very similar

[Lek]

First:
Largest segment = 2.3 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 105.1 cM
79 matching segments

Second:
Largest segment = 3.5 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 168.0 cM
126 matching segments

I beat you here on 2nd again by miles, damn, thought you would actually beat me on both by large..... you dont even seem Tosk now. Are you even Balkan, dude? Wtf?

[Deniz]

Revenia

Largest segment=3.2 cm
Total of segments> 1 cM=139.6 cm
103 matching segments
Kleitos

Largest Segment=2.9cm
Total of Segments>1 cM=208.5 cm
159 matching segments

[Dibran]

Albanians who are more neolithic/Southern seem to match more. I guess Era would match these well.

yea I got 1,015 cm! lol wait nevermind. I am thinking of Stuttgart lol

[Mortimer]

Revenia
Largest segment = 2.5 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 82.3 cM
64 matching segments

Kleitos Neolithic
Largest segment = 2.6 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 168.4 cM
127 matching segments

[de Burgh II]

Revenia Central Greece: Z394045
Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 125.7 cM

Kleitos Neolithic: Z732775
Largest segment = 2.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 211.0 cM

[Voskos]

Revenia Central Greece: Z394045
Largest segment = 3.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 125.7 cM

Kleitos Neolithic: Z732775
Largest segment = 2.4 cM
Total of segments > 1 cM = 211.0 cM

we got almost the same results lol