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Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 03:46 AM
http://i.imgur.com/i7XCVrh.jpg
Iloko
07-15-2017, 03:54 AM
Congratz! Also try sending your raw data to Dr Doug McDonald for a free BGA analysis; his email is: mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 03:57 AM
Congratz! Also try sending your raw data to Dr Doug McDonald for a free BGA analysis; his email is: mcdonald@scs.uiuc.edu
Thanks, I'll get on that now!
Mortimer
07-15-2017, 04:01 AM
congrats almost 20% scandinavian, thats interesting.
wvwvw
07-15-2017, 04:27 AM
congrats almost 20% scandinavian, thats interesting.
That must be recent, from his mom who has recent Euro admixture
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 04:34 AM
That must be recent, from his mom who has recent Euro admixture
Nah. I've seen a Paki score 6% Scandinavian too
Babak
07-15-2017, 04:36 AM
Iranic brothers :grouphug:
Peterski
07-15-2017, 04:40 AM
That must be recent
No, it is most likely just Sintashta or Andronovo. Those people were similar to modern Eastern and Northern Europeans.
In some GEDmatch calculators they are most similar to modern Swedes although the genetic distance is still very large:
1) Copper Age Steppe:
Kit number / ancient sample
M828815 / Yamnaya-RISE552
M343758 / Yamnaya-I0443
F999968 / Yamnaya-RISE548
F999942 / Afanasievo-RISE509
M766878 / Poltavka-I0440
F999946 / Catacomb-RISE552
M828784 / Afanasievo-RISE511
M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231
2) Bronze Age Steppe:
Kit number / ancient sample
M690970 / Sintashta-RISE386
M630274 / Poltavka-I0432
M370663 / Potapovka-I0419
M608028 / Andronovo-RISE505
M277797 / Sintashta-RISE395
M328175 / Srubnaya-I0423
F999947 / Andronovo-RISE500
M472767 / Srubnaya-I0232
F999961 / Andronovo-RISE503
M217196 / Srubnaya-I0430
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My "Denmark" and "Sweden" from DNA Tribes is also not anything recent, but Iron Age or older. East Germanic tribes.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 04:45 AM
No, it is most likely just Sintashta or Andronovo. Those people were similar to modern Eastern and Northern Europeans.
In some GEDmatch calculators they are most similar to modern Swedes although the genetic distance is still very large:
1) Copper Age Steppe:
Kit number / ancient sample
M828815 / Yamnaya-RISE552
M343758 / Yamnaya-I0443
F999968 / Yamnaya-RISE548
F999942 / Afanasievo-RISE509
M766878 / Poltavka-I0440
F999946 / Catacomb-RISE552
M828784 / Afanasievo-RISE511
M655536 / Yamnaya-I0231
2) Bronze Age Steppe:
Kit number / ancient sample
M690970 / Sintashta-RISE386
M630274 / Poltavka-I0432
M370663 / Potapovka-I0419
M608028 / Andronovo-RISE505
M277797 / Sintashta-RISE395
M328175 / Srubnaya-I0423
F999947 / Andronovo-RISE500
M472767 / Srubnaya-I0232
F999961 / Andronovo-RISE503
M217196 / Srubnaya-I0430
====================
My "Denmark" and "Sweden" from DNA Tribes is also not anything recent, but Iron Age or older. East Germanic tribes.
I scored Swedish in ancestry too. Some people told me it is normal, others not because they think that yamnaya ancestry should be hidden under my South-Central Asian ancestry. I think it is normal.
wvwvw
07-15-2017, 04:46 AM
Have you seen his mom? She doesn't look Afgani at all but Ukrainian or something.
No way an average Afgan would score more than 1-2% Northern European.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 04:47 AM
Have you seen his mom? She doesn't look Afgani at all but Ukrainian or sometheing.
No way an average Afgan would score more than 1-2% Northern European.
But look at my gedmatch stuff, I am closest to Afghan Pashtuns and Pamiri Tajiks.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 04:51 AM
I scored Swedish in ancestry too. Some people told me it is normal, others not because they think that yamnaya ancestry should be hidden under my South-Central Asian ancestry. I think it is normal.
It is not directly Yamnaya, but rather Sintashta and Andronovo.
Compare those GEDmatch results (I posted kit numbers above).
Sintashta often get "Swedish" etc. in Single Population Sharing.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 04:53 AM
No way an average Afgan would score more than 1-2% Northern European.
They usually score East European / Slavic, but MyHeritage interpreted it as Scandinavian. These admixtures are quite easy to confuse because they are not very different. For example ancient RISE98 (Bronze Age Scandinavian) gets 1/2 North Slavic in DNA Land. The other 1/2 is North-West Euro:
https://s10.postimg.org/x56q5ogbt/RISE98.png
Peterski
07-15-2017, 04:58 AM
But look at my gedmatch stuff, I am closest to Afghan Pashtuns and Pamiri Tajiks.
Indeed. Pashtuns have a lot of Steppe ancestry, which is like Eastern/Northern European:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/03/yamnaya-related-ancestry-proportions-in.html
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/KZ6c5jqf3XgXU4ZCpbCBRRts2TuM-E5r1TYaBUcLAn9iMxmcZNWZQ3yF1aB6sUQNkNHLxBXdJpjzRRc =w1326-h658-rw
Babak
07-15-2017, 04:58 AM
But look at my gedmatch stuff, I am closest to Afghan Pashtuns and Pamiri Tajiks.
You are directly descended from early Indo-iranian tribes. Original proto-west iranics probably would've scored less NE, more west asian, and more south asian.
wvwvw
07-15-2017, 05:01 AM
Anthropologies is an American mutt. Half of his family members look Slavic or half Slavic. It is not normal for an Afgani to score 17% Swedish. That this 17% Northern European is "ancient stuff" is just bs.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 05:06 AM
Maybe you have some extra ancestry from Iron Age Western Steppe?:
GEDmatch kit number / ancient sample
T238094 / I0575 Sarmatian Pokrovka 500-200 BC, Y-DNA: R1b-Z2103
M348213 / I0247 Scythian Samara 375-203 BC, Y-DNA: R1a-Z2123
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:06 AM
You are directly descended from early Indo-iranian tribes. Original proto-west iranics probably would've scored less NE, more west asian, and more south asian.
I descend from a woman named Judy.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:08 AM
Indeed. Pashtuns have a lot of Steppe ancestry, which is like Eastern/Northern European:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/03/yamnaya-related-ancestry-proportions-in.html
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/KZ6c5jqf3XgXU4ZCpbCBRRts2TuM-E5r1TYaBUcLAn9iMxmcZNWZQ3yF1aB6sUQNkNHLxBXdJpjzRRc =w1326-h658-rw
There is some of you in me
Peterski
07-15-2017, 05:10 AM
Anthropologies is an American mutt.
No, his results in Eurogenes K36 look like 100% typical Pashtun results.
He even gets slightly more of "South Asian" than an average Pashtun.
Half of his family members look Slavic or half Slavic.
:picard1: This ancient woman from the Tarim Basin in China "looks Slavic" as well:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213966-Whites-Europeans&p=4483502&viewfull=1#post4483502
Pashtuns and Slavs have ancient connections. We both share some ancestry.
Babak
07-15-2017, 05:11 AM
I descend from a woman named Judy.
congrats
Grace O'Malley
07-15-2017, 05:12 AM
http://i.imgur.com/i7XCVrh.jpg
Why does nearly everyone on MyHeritage get Ashkenazi? I get 2.8% on that.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 05:13 AM
Half of his family members look Slavic or half Slavic.
Now you sound just like me in this thread: :cool:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?201993-Why-did-Ancient-Greeks-look-Slavic&p=4213680&viewfull=1#post4213680
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:13 AM
Maybe you have some extra ancestry from Iron Age Western Steppe?:
GEDmatch kit number / ancient sample
T238094 / I0575 Sarmatian Pokrovka 500-200 BC, Y-DNA: R1b-Z2103
M348213 / I0247 Scythian Samara 375-203 BC, Y-DNA: R1a-Z2123
Funny thing though. I tried the y dna clade predictor, and this is the y dna group I got:
"Pashtuns, Sepharadic Jews,Ashkenazi Jews, Mizrahi Jews, Palestinians, Lebanese, Syrians South West Syria, Haplogroup G2b-M377 is a Y-chromosome haplogroup and is defined by the presence of the M377 mutation. It is a branch of HaplogroupG2, which in turn is defined by the presence of the M201 mutation."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_G-M377
I could be originally Jewish paternally.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:14 AM
Why does nearly everyone on MyHeritage get Ashkenazi? I get 2.8% on that.
My guess is that because it is jewish run, they are good at detecting jewish like dna in people.
My predicted haplogroup points to a jewish origin though, which I found odd.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 05:16 AM
I could be originally Jewish paternally.
Or maybe in Ancient Middle East someone converted to Judaism and that's how this lineage became Jewish. Here is a good website about Jewish Y-DNA: http://jewishdna.net
When it comes to haplogroup G, Jews have:
G2b1 (M377) - 170 (7.66%)
G2a2b2a1 (L140) - 36 (1.62%)
other G2a (P15) - 18 (0.81%)
G1 (M342) - 31 (1.4%)
Check also this Longbowman's thread:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?196414-Ashkenazi-haplogroups&p=4089260&viewfull=1#post4089260
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:18 AM
No, his results in Eurogenes K36 look like 100% typical Pashtun results.
He even gets slightly more of "South Asian" than an average Pashtun.
:picard1: This ancient woman from the Tarim Basin in China "looks Slavic" as well:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?213966-Whites-Europeans&p=4483502&viewfull=1#post4483502
Pashtuns and Slavs have ancient connections. We both share some ancestry.
I score pretty average real south asian ancestry for an afghan, and I am so close to Afghan Pashtun on gedmatch. What I get a little more of is balochi.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:22 AM
Or maybe in Ancient Middle East someone converted to Judaism and that's how this lineage became Jewish. Here is a good website about Jewish Y-DNA: http://jewishdna.net
When it comes to haplogroup G, Jews have:
G2b1 (M377) - 170 (7.66%)
G2a2b2a1 (L140) - 36 (1.62%)
other G2a (P15) - 18 (0.81%)
G1 (M342) - 31 (1.4%)
Check also this Longbowman's thread:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?196414-Ashkenazi-haplogroups&p=4089260&viewfull=1#post4089260
Here's what I get on gedrosia k9 mixed mode , I am pretty pure pashtun.
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.3% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.7% Loschbour @ 2.05
2 98.2% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.8% Bichon @ 2.06
3 98.2% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.8% LaBrana1 @ 2.06
4 98.6% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.4% Ami @ 2.17
5 98.5% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.5% Dai @ 2.2
6 98% Pashtun_Afghan + 2% RISE_baHu @ 2.24
7 97.8% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.2% Kusunda @ 2.28
8 97.7% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.3% RISE_irSca @ 2.3
9 98.5% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.5% Naga @ 2.3
10 98.1% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.9% Sherpa @ 2.31
11 98.4% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.6% Tibet-refugees @ 2.33
12 97.9% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.1% Lithuanian @ 2.33
13 97.8% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.2% Estonian @ 2.34
14 97.9% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.1% Karelia @ 2.34
15 91.8% Pashtun_Afghan + 8.2% Uzbek_Afghan @ 2.35
16 98.5% Pashtun_Afghan + 1.5% Mongola @ 2.36
17 97.9% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.1% Finnish @ 2.37
18 97.8% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.2% Belarusian @ 2.37
19 97.8% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.2% Russian @ 2.38
20 97.6% Pashtun_Afghan + 2.4% Kharia @ 2.39
Ranger0075
07-15-2017, 05:24 AM
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 05:24 AM
I score pretty average real south asian ancestry for an afghan, and I am so close to Afghan Pashtun on gedmatch. What I get a little more of is balochi.
Here are population averages in Eurogenes K36 (these ones were added by mlukas). As you can see Pashtun_AFG average South Asian is 13%, while you get 16% IIRC. But I'm not really sure how representative are these averages and how large are sample sizes (ask mlukas about it):
http://i.imgur.com/YpuSRXX.png
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:26 AM
Here are population averages in Eurogenes K36 (these ones were added by mlukas):
As you can see Pashtun_AFG average South Asian is 13%, while you get 16% IIRC:
http://i.imgur.com/YpuSRXX.png
That's because I have slightly elevated Balochi ancestry, which showed in HarrappaWorld, where i scored the same amount of South asian as all the other afghans.
Peterski
07-15-2017, 05:29 AM
That's because I have slightly elevated Balochi ancestry, which showed in HarrappaWorld, where i scored the same amount of South asian as all the other afghans.
OK I guess this explains it.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:31 AM
OK I guess this explains it.
Btw, Pathans/Pakistani Pashtuns aren't all necessairly more south asian shifted either. A lot of them are more western shifted than many afghan pashtuns are.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 05:36 AM
Or maybe in Ancient Middle East someone converted to Judaism and that's how this lineage became Jewish. Here is a good website about Jewish Y-DNA: http://jewishdna.net
When it comes to haplogroup G, Jews have:
G2b1 (M377) - 170 (7.66%)
G2a2b2a1 (L140) - 36 (1.62%)
other G2a (P15) - 18 (0.81%)
G1 (M342) - 31 (1.4%)
Check also this Longbowman's thread:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?196414-Ashkenazi-haplogroups&p=4089260&viewfull=1#post4089260
That haplogroup is very rare everywhere though. However, it is strongly associated with Levantines, then with some Pashtuns.
Wanderer
07-15-2017, 03:27 PM
Indeed. Pashtuns have a lot of Steppe ancestry, which is like Eastern/Northern European:
http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2015/03/yamnaya-related-ancestry-proportions-in.html
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/KZ6c5jqf3XgXU4ZCpbCBRRts2TuM-E5r1TYaBUcLAn9iMxmcZNWZQ3yF1aB6sUQNkNHLxBXdJpjzRRc =w1326-h658-rw
Seems plausible.
Hadouken
07-15-2017, 03:36 PM
congrats :)
lameduck
07-15-2017, 03:38 PM
awesome that region upto Northern South Asia is rich in steppe ancestry to your high NE Euro is not a surprise
Pahli
07-15-2017, 03:38 PM
Lmfao I get 96,8% West Asian and 3,2% European :laugh:
But troo Iranic with 20% N. European :cool:
Somebody should upload the Scythian and Sarmatian raw dna files to myheritage
Hadouken
07-15-2017, 03:41 PM
Lmfao I get 96,8% West Asian and 3,2% European :laugh:
But troo Iranic with 20% N. European :cool:
Somebody should upload the Scythian and Sarmatian raw dna files to myheritage
I also get 97% or so west asian
no steppe for us :cry2
You score 3.3% more Scandinavian than me
S33ms L3g1t
Pahli
07-15-2017, 03:43 PM
I also get 97% or so west asian
no steppe for us :cry2
R.I.P :(
You score 3.3% more Scandinavian than me
S33ms L3g1t
Even bigger R.I.P
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 08:29 PM
Lmfao I get 96,8% West Asian and 3,2% European :laugh:
But troo Iranic with 20% N. European :cool:
Somebody should upload the Scythian and Sarmatian raw dna files to myheritage
No matter what we are still iranic bros, right? :)
Survivor
07-15-2017, 08:29 PM
Are you White or Non-White?
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 08:31 PM
You score 3.3% more Scandinavian than me
S33ms L3g1t
Seems weird. You literally are half scandi?
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 08:32 PM
Are you White or Non-White?
Nada blanco about me
Seems weird. You literally are half scandi?
I learned that I'm apperently likely 1/4th German and 3/4th Norwegian, but basically yh.
NordicMan
07-15-2017, 08:37 PM
Are you White or Non-White?
He is a paki/mena.
Survivor
07-15-2017, 08:38 PM
Nada blanco about me
Would you describe yourself as a victim of White Supremacy?
Nada blanco about me
C'mon, check your white privilege, boy.:p:thumb001: Don't you score over 20% white on Eurogenes K13?
NordicMan
07-15-2017, 08:41 PM
Would you describe yourself as a victim of White Supremacy?
What bullshit is that?
Sikeliot
07-15-2017, 08:42 PM
Would you describe yourself as a victim of White Supremacy?
He is a white-passing person of color. White supremacy does affect people who are in that category because their white privilege is conditional, and often revoked when the truth about their ancestry is revealed. This is to say they're assumed to be white but not treated as such when people find out their roots.
Survivor
07-15-2017, 08:44 PM
What bullshit is that?
If you do not understand the system of White Supremacy, everything else will confuse you.
NordicMan
07-15-2017, 08:46 PM
If you do not understand the system of White Supremacy, everything else will confuse you.
Go f*** yourself.
If you do not understand the system of White Supremacy, everything else will confuse you.
Go f*** yourself.
These two are the same people, are the mods blind/ stupid?
They've had their run, now ban them.
Wanderer
07-15-2017, 08:59 PM
Nada blanco about me
Wouldn't you be a white person as defined by the US Census?
NordicMan
07-15-2017, 09:00 PM
These two are the same people, are the mods blind/ stupid?
They've had their run, now ban them.
Keep on dreaming.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 11:11 PM
Wouldn't you be a white person as defined by the US Census?
Well yeah, but even my black Egyptian friend is considered white by the census
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 11:12 PM
These two are the same people, are the mods blind/ stupid?
They've had their run, now ban them.
No, actually. NordicMan is clearly a Ross sock.
Myanthropologies
07-15-2017, 11:12 PM
C'mon, check your white privilege, boy.:p:thumb001: Don't you score over 20% white on Eurogenes K13?
Almost 30% in some calculators, but on average around 25%
Babak
07-16-2017, 01:33 AM
No matter what we are still iranic bros, right? :)
Based on historical/archeological evidence + genetics Iranians are at least 40% proto west iranic. Lurs have the lowest at 35% or even 30%. Khorasanis can get up to 50. Just wanted to share that with you.
Also unlike afghans/pamiris/jatts, all of our I.E. ancestry came from a single group most likely. South central Asians and some south Asians received steppe ancestry from at least 3 different groups. And btw, the steppe ancestry in south Asians and south central Asians was exaggerated due to hidden extra ANE and some chg
Myanthropologies
07-16-2017, 03:09 AM
Based on historical/archeological evidence + genetics Iranians are at least 40% proto west iranic. Lurs have the lowest at 35% or even 30%. Khorasanis can get up to 50. Just wanted to share that with you.
Also unlike afghans/pamiris/jatts, all of our I.E. ancestry came from a single group most likely. South central Asians and some south Asians received steppe ancestry from at least 3 different groups. And btw, the steppe ancestry in south Asians and south central Asians was exaggerated due to hidden extra ANE and some chg
Okay, nice.
Almost 30% in some calculators, but on average around 25%
Could you finally share your K13 results? You've overlooked one of the most popular calculators.
Myanthropologies
07-16-2017, 03:57 PM
Could you finally share your K13 results? You've overlooked one of the most popular calculators.
Did I not post that one? I thought I did. I'll get on that after work.
In the mean time, I've been plotted on a pca for the first time, dodecad world 9
http://i.imgur.com/ijadifQ.jpg
Here's the more scaled version of that (doesn't have me on it, but you can infer where I am based on the last one
http://i.imgur.com/sWzgP35.jpg
Did I not post that one? I thought I did. I'll get on that after work.
In the mean time, I've been plotted on a pca for the first time, dodecad world 9
Yeah, I see. You are a bit closer to the Tajik reference.
Have you done WEGENE yet fam?
Norse
07-16-2017, 04:50 PM
A little Nordic is a dangerous thing.
Myanthropologies
07-16-2017, 04:53 PM
A little Nordic is a dangerous thing.
Dangerous?
Myanthropologies
07-16-2017, 04:54 PM
Have you done WEGENE yet fam?
It's processing, familia.
Norse
07-16-2017, 05:01 PM
Dangerous?
You are almost 20% Nordic but yet you are really SJW and see yourself as "coloured".
You inherited the 20% white guilt part of the Nordic.
Myanthropologies
07-17-2017, 12:43 AM
You are almost 20% Nordic but yet you are really SJW and see yourself as "coloured".
You inherited the 20% white guilt part of the Nordic.
Lmao
Myanthropologies
07-17-2017, 12:48 AM
Could you finally share your K13 results? You've overlooked one of the most popular calculators.
Here's what I get on k13. It doesn't seem very accurate for me or other pashtuns that much, it seems to be a good calculator only for Europeans. Tajiks are way too far on the list than what other calculators gave me. It gives me 5% extra South Asian than what an average Afghan Pashtun gets on this calculator, but that is due to some of my Balochi and n_euro components being inflated into the score (which i figured out by comparing with calculators that separate balochi/ani from asi).
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.43
2 South_Asian 30.34
3 Baltic 10.88
4 East_Med 8.1
5 North_Atlantic 4.65
6 Siberian 2.35
7 Amerindian 1.67
8 Oceanian 0.7
9 Sub-Saharan 0.7
10 East_Asian 0.17
11 Northeast_African 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 5.98
2 Kalash 8.08
3 Pathan 8.84
4 Burusho 11.57
5 Makrani 13.36
6 Balochi 13.9
7 Punjabi_Jat 14.12
8 Brahui 14.76
9 Sindhi 15.23
10 Tadjik 15.66
11 Afghan_Tadjik 16.71
12 Turkmen 23.93
13 Tabassaran 24.56
14 Lezgin 25.76
15 Chechen 25.93
16 Kumyk 26.16
17 Kabardin 27.06
18 Adygei 27.39
19 Brahmin_UP 27.56
20 Iranian 27.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.8% Pathan + 25.2% Lezgin @ 1.66
2 75.1% Pathan + 24.9% Chechen @ 2.12
3 74.1% Pathan + 25.9% Tabassaran @ 2.22
4 76.3% Pathan + 23.7% Adygei @ 2.43
5 76.7% Pathan + 23.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.44
6 86.4% Kalash + 13.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.64
7 75.6% Pathan + 24.4% Kumyk @ 2.79
8 84.2% Kalash + 15.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.85
9 76.3% Pathan + 23.7% Kabardin @ 2.93
10 77% Pathan + 23% Balkar @ 3.01
11 77% Pathan + 23% Ossetian @ 3.03
12 61.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.3% Pathan @ 3.04
13 78.6% Kalash + 21.4% Iranian @ 3.08
14 84.8% Kalash + 15.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.08
15 84.1% Kalash + 15.9% Assyrian @ 3.1
16 79.6% Kalash + 20.4% Azeri @ 3.1
17 87.1% Kalash + 12.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.15
18 79.3% Pathan + 20.7% Georgian @ 3.25
19 85.6% Kalash + 14.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.36
20 79.9% Pathan + 20.1% Abhkasian @ 3.38
Here's what I get on k13. It doesn't seem very accurate for me or other pashtuns that much, it seems to be a good calculator only for Europeans. Tajiks are way too far on the list than what other calculators gave me. It gives me 5% extra South Asian than what an average Afghan Pashtun gets on this calculator, but that is due to some of my Balochi and n_euro components being inflated into the score (which i figured out by comparing with calculators that separate balochi/ani from asi).
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 40.43
2 South_Asian 30.34
3 Baltic 10.88
4 East_Med 8.1
5 North_Atlantic 4.65
6 Siberian 2.35
7 Amerindian 1.67
8 Oceanian 0.7
9 Sub-Saharan 0.7
10 East_Asian 0.17
11 Northeast_African 0.02
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Afghan_Pashtun 5.98
2 Kalash 8.08
3 Pathan 8.84
4 Burusho 11.57
5 Makrani 13.36
6 Balochi 13.9
7 Punjabi_Jat 14.12
8 Brahui 14.76
9 Sindhi 15.23
10 Tadjik 15.66
11 Afghan_Tadjik 16.71
12 Turkmen 23.93
13 Tabassaran 24.56
14 Lezgin 25.76
15 Chechen 25.93
16 Kumyk 26.16
17 Kabardin 27.06
18 Adygei 27.39
19 Brahmin_UP 27.56
20 Iranian 27.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.8% Pathan + 25.2% Lezgin @ 1.66
2 75.1% Pathan + 24.9% Chechen @ 2.12
3 74.1% Pathan + 25.9% Tabassaran @ 2.22
4 76.3% Pathan + 23.7% Adygei @ 2.43
5 76.7% Pathan + 23.3% North_Ossetian @ 2.44
6 86.4% Kalash + 13.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.64
7 75.6% Pathan + 24.4% Kumyk @ 2.79
8 84.2% Kalash + 15.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.85
9 76.3% Pathan + 23.7% Kabardin @ 2.93
10 77% Pathan + 23% Balkar @ 3.01
11 77% Pathan + 23% Ossetian @ 3.03
12 61.7% Afghan_Pashtun + 38.3% Pathan @ 3.04
13 78.6% Kalash + 21.4% Iranian @ 3.08
14 84.8% Kalash + 15.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.08
15 84.1% Kalash + 15.9% Assyrian @ 3.1
16 79.6% Kalash + 20.4% Azeri @ 3.1
17 87.1% Kalash + 12.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.15
18 79.3% Pathan + 20.7% Georgian @ 3.25
19 85.6% Kalash + 14.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.36
20 79.9% Pathan + 20.1% Abhkasian @ 3.38
Well, I believe 30% South Asian is pretty normal for an Eastern Afghan. And Tajiks are so distant because they are like 15-20% East Asian and Siberian on Gedmatch.
Kriptc06
07-18-2017, 05:47 PM
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Registan
07-18-2017, 05:50 PM
Well, I believe 30% South Asian is pretty normal for an Eastern Afghan. And Tajiks are so distant because they are like 15-20% East Asian and Siberian on Gedmatch.
It is not the best Eurogenes calculator for people from our region. Here are my results on another one:
Eurogenes K8 AMI
3.03% Amerindian
1.87% Siberian
17.24% Euro_HG
2.93% Oceanian
0.40% Sub-Saharan
6.74% Southeast_Asian
21.98% LBK
45.82% South-Central_Asian
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Afghan_Pashtun @ 5,356033
2 Tajik_Pomiri @ 7,454045
3 Tadjik @ 9,063714
4 Pathan @ 11,778725
5 Afghan_Uzbek @ 13,225575
6 Afghan_Tadjik @ 13,379507
7 Brahui @ 13,672045
8 Burusho @ 14,081902
9 Lezgin @ 14,364709
10 Balochi @ 15,107577
11 Chechen @ 16,474325
12 GujaratiA @ 17,098363
13 Kalash @ 17,446236
14 Kumyk @ 18,13644
15 Balkar @ 18,34782
16 North_Ossetian @ 18,371049
17 Adygei @ 18,441658
18 Brahmin_UP @ 19,946317
19 Turkmen @ 21,949385
20 Punjabi @ 22,115596
259 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 2,323015
2 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,129354
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,18651
4 GujaratiA+Kumyk @ 3,751487
5 Balkar+GujaratiA @ 3,921542
6 Brahmin_UP+Chechen @ 3,965639
7 GujaratiA+North_Ossetian @ 4,008727
8 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,084433
9 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 4,170068
10 Adygei+GujaratiA @ 4,194072
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tajik_Pomiri @ 5,781324
2 Afghan_Pashtun @ 6,089563
3 Pathan @ 7,423369
4 Tadjik @ 7,725951
5 Kalash @ 9,694051
6 Afghan_Uzbek @ 10,583689
7 Afghan_Tadjik @ 10,606791
8 Burusho @ 10,638608
9 GujaratiA @ 11,559264
10 Brahui @ 11,918173
11 Balochi @ 12,529396
12 Kumyk @ 13,44837
13 Turkmen @ 14,266564
14 Balkar @ 14,515
15 North_Ossetian @ 14,732751
16 Nogai @ 15,432176
17 Afghan_Turkmen @ 15,515495
18 Brahmin_UP @ 15,769253
19 Iranian @ 15,813125
20 Adygei @ 15,835659
259 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 3,236478
2 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 3,332307
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,525632
4 Lezgin+Pathan @ 3,794516
5 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,966627
6 Chechen+Pathan @ 4,17975
7 Pathan+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,465679
8 Chechen+Kalash @ 4,639514
9 Kalash+Lezgin @ 4,673726
10 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,766173
Myanthropologies
07-18-2017, 07:51 PM
Well, I believe 30% South Asian is pretty normal for an Eastern Afghan. And Tajiks are so distant because they are like 15-20% East Asian and Siberian on Gedmatch.
No, it's actually not, because I get closer to Tajiks on other calculators. Also, on harrapa world, it shows clearly that my inflated "south asian" is actually extra Caucasus/Baloch + some extra steepe. South Asian and South Indian components are highly Caucausus-Gedrosia and Steepe admixed. Baloch is basically all Caucasus/gedrosia, with some steepe. And South indian on harrapa world seems to be highly Caucasus dominated component too, based on what I've seen south indians score on it.
Here's what I get on harrapa world, with the pashtun spreadsheet under it
S-Indian 18.31
Baloch 37.49
Caucasian 20.31
NE-Euro 14.15
SE-Asian 0.25
Siberian 1.99
NE-Asian 1.32
Papuan 0.82
American 1.03
Beringian 0.96
Mediterranean 1.15
SW-Asian 2.23
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -
Oracle
Oracle-4
Spreadsheet
Average Afghan Pashtun
S-Indian 18.90
Baloch 34.35
Caucasian 19.47
NE-Euro 11.01
SE-Asian 0.71
Siberian 2.60
NE-Asian 1.50
Papuan 1.33
American 1.56
Beringian 1.88
Mediterranean 0.71
SW-Asian 4.41
San -
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African -
Oracle
I'd say a lot of these calculators aren't very accurate for pashtuns. Only a few mldp world, puntdal, eurogenes, and dodecad ones are.
Myanthropologies
07-18-2017, 07:55 PM
It is not the best Eurogenes calculator for people from our region. Here are my results on another one:
Eurogenes K8 AMI
3.03% Amerindian
1.87% Siberian
17.24% Euro_HG
2.93% Oceanian
0.40% Sub-Saharan
6.74% Southeast_Asian
21.98% LBK
45.82% South-Central_Asian
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Afghan_Pashtun @ 5,356033
2 Tajik_Pomiri @ 7,454045
3 Tadjik @ 9,063714
4 Pathan @ 11,778725
5 Afghan_Uzbek @ 13,225575
6 Afghan_Tadjik @ 13,379507
7 Brahui @ 13,672045
8 Burusho @ 14,081902
9 Lezgin @ 14,364709
10 Balochi @ 15,107577
11 Chechen @ 16,474325
12 GujaratiA @ 17,098363
13 Kalash @ 17,446236
14 Kumyk @ 18,13644
15 Balkar @ 18,34782
16 North_Ossetian @ 18,371049
17 Adygei @ 18,441658
18 Brahmin_UP @ 19,946317
19 Turkmen @ 21,949385
20 Punjabi @ 22,115596
259 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 2,323015
2 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,129354
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,18651
4 GujaratiA+Kumyk @ 3,751487
5 Balkar+GujaratiA @ 3,921542
6 Brahmin_UP+Chechen @ 3,965639
7 GujaratiA+North_Ossetian @ 4,008727
8 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,084433
9 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 4,170068
10 Adygei+GujaratiA @ 4,194072
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,676116
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Tajik_Pomiri @ 5,781324
2 Afghan_Pashtun @ 6,089563
3 Pathan @ 7,423369
4 Tadjik @ 7,725951
5 Kalash @ 9,694051
6 Afghan_Uzbek @ 10,583689
7 Afghan_Tadjik @ 10,606791
8 Burusho @ 10,638608
9 GujaratiA @ 11,559264
10 Brahui @ 11,918173
11 Balochi @ 12,529396
12 Kumyk @ 13,44837
13 Turkmen @ 14,266564
14 Balkar @ 14,515
15 North_Ossetian @ 14,732751
16 Nogai @ 15,432176
17 Afghan_Turkmen @ 15,515495
18 Brahmin_UP @ 15,769253
19 Iranian @ 15,813125
20 Adygei @ 15,835659
259 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Burusho+Lezgin @ 3,236478
2 GujaratiA+Lezgin @ 3,332307
3 Chechen+GujaratiA @ 3,525632
4 Lezgin+Pathan @ 3,794516
5 Burusho+Chechen @ 3,966627
6 Chechen+Pathan @ 4,17975
7 Pathan+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,465679
8 Chechen+Kalash @ 4,639514
9 Kalash+Lezgin @ 4,673726
10 Afghan_Pashtun+Tajik_Pomiri @ 4,766173
If like to try this calculator, but cannot find it on eurogenes. You're also from Eastern Afghanistan so I guess mine would be similar.
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