Australoids are caucasoid admixed to a significant degree

[Myanthropologies]

I found gedmatch of a Melanesian and saw a gedmatch of an Agta, and they appear significantly caucasoid admixed.

One would expect that the dominating component in them in Eurasia K9 ASI would be Ancestral_South_Indian, but it is actually SE_Asian. They are roughly only a quarter ASI. A lot of people over exaggerated the shift South Indians have towards Australian Aborigines, but now what we know that it is aborigines that have a significant shift towards indians.

Melanesian Gedmatch

1 SE_Asian 41.49
2 Ancestral_South_Indian 24.97
3 Caucausus_Hunter_Gatherer 17.87
4 W_African 8.2
5 Siberian_E_Asian 7.47

[Iloko]

What's the kit # for the Agta? if you don't mind..

[Myanthropologies]

What's the kit # for the Agta? if you don't mind..

I don't have the kit number for the agta, but here is the Melanesian
T579132

[JohnSmith]

That is cool.

[Petalpusher]

No one would expect a Nigerian to have N.Africa as his dominant component, it's the same here. If anything it demonstrates the contrary, S.Indian share something indeed with Australoids, and even CHG does, which we know already from the low K runs.

[Myanthropologies]

No one would expect a Nigerian to have N.Africa as his dominant component, it's the same here. If anything it demonstrates the contrary, S.Indian share something indeed with Australoids, and even CHG does, which we know already from the low K runs.

True, but given the scores in the calculator, it's obvious that Paupauns have an affinity towards caucasoid groups that is very significant, and they are obviously admixed with caucasoid.

[Hadouken]

ANE K6 calculator results of an Australian Aborigine


1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 90.27
2 East_Asian 5.69
3 Sub_Saharan 3.24
4 Natufian 0.42
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0.39


ANE K6 results of a Papuan


1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 100

damn

you are welcome

seems that Ancient Eurasia K6 calculator is the best if you are looking for australoid

[Myanthropologies]

ANE K6 calculator results of an Australian Aborigine


1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 90.27
2 East_Asian 5.69
3 Sub_Saharan 3.24
4 Natufian 0.42
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0.39


ANE K6 results of a Papuan


1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 100

damn

you are welcome

seems that Ancient Eurasia K6 calculator is the best if you are looking for australoid

No it doesn't seem the best at all. Otherwise why would they score other components in more detailed calculators? There are some calculators that say Iranians are 90% French, but that doesn't mean they are French. On that calculator, there were only two components. No calculator is going to be better at detecting asi other than asi k9, that's what it's made for detecting

[Noman]

Ran on Harappa World

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Papuan 76.95
2 SE-Asian 21.06
3 NE-Asian 1.35


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 melanesian_hgdp @ 0.924193
2 aus_reich @ 19.154114
3 papuan_hgdp @ 31.135010
4 tongan_xing @ 62.713020
5 samoan_xing @ 69.503448
6 onge_reich @ 83.699371
7 khasi_chaubey @ 84.654060
8 great-andamanese_reich @ 84.817604
9 thai_xing @ 87.148376
10 burmanese_chaubey @ 87.973305
11 uzbek_behar @ 88.196243
12 uyghur_hgdp @ 88.504227
13 khmer-cambodian_xing @ 88.716080
14 hazara_hgdp @ 88.926231
15 romanian-b_behar @ 89.308792
16 garo_chaubey @ 89.827705
17 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 89.851219
18 singapore-malay_sgvp @ 90.002724
19 puerto-rican_bryc @ 90.286385
20 tajik_yunusbayev @ 90.427071

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% melanesian_hgdp +50% melanesian_hgdp @ 0.924193


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% melanesian_hgdp +25% melanesian_hgdp +25% melanesian_hgdp @ 0.924193

[Myanthropologies]

Ran on Harappa World

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Papuan 76.95
2 SE-Asian 21.06
3 NE-Asian 1.35


Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 melanesian_hgdp @ 0.924193
2 aus_reich @ 19.154114
3 papuan_hgdp @ 31.135010
4 tongan_xing @ 62.713020
5 samoan_xing @ 69.503448
6 onge_reich @ 83.699371
7 khasi_chaubey @ 84.654060
8 great-andamanese_reich @ 84.817604
9 thai_xing @ 87.148376
10 burmanese_chaubey @ 87.973305
11 uzbek_behar @ 88.196243
12 uyghur_hgdp @ 88.504227
13 khmer-cambodian_xing @ 88.716080
14 hazara_hgdp @ 88.926231
15 romanian-b_behar @ 89.308792
16 garo_chaubey @ 89.827705
17 turkmen_yunusbayev @ 89.851219
18 singapore-malay_sgvp @ 90.002724
19 puerto-rican_bryc @ 90.286385
20 tajik_yunusbayev @ 90.427071

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% melanesian_hgdp +50% melanesian_hgdp @ 0.924193


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% melanesian_hgdp +25% melanesian_hgdp +25% melanesian_hgdp @ 0.924193

What do south indians get?

[Noman]

What do south indians get?

I don't know; however, I did get 30% S-Indian on Harappa World.

[Iloko]

I wonder what would happen if they broke down the 'SE-Asian' category into multiple categories/components...that would be interesting.

[Hadouken]

No it doesn't seem the best at all. Otherwise why would they score other components in more detailed calculators? There are some calculators that say Iranians are 90% French, but that doesn't mean they are French. On that calculator, there were only two components. No calculator is going to be better at detecting asi other than asi k9, that's what it's made for detecting

because ANE K6 ancient south eurasian component is based on papuans , australian aborigines , and andamanese islanders . it is the maximized and detailed australoid you can get .

ANE K6 has 6 admixture components which is not little

the ASI component on Eurasia K9 ASI is based on onge , andamanese and a few other tribal south indian populations only while K6 is based on papuans/australian aborigines on top of it along with andamanese

it is definitely without a question a better indicator of australoid admix

here a result from an australian aborigine and a papuan

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 90.27
2 East_Asian 5.69
3 Sub_Saharan 3.24
4 Natufian 0.42
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

1 Onge 8.46
2 Australian 11.34
3 Andamanese 11.34
4 Papuan 11.34
5 Paniyas 50
6 Palliyar 55.51
7 Kharia 59.47
8 Bengali 71.01
9 Punjabi_PJL 73.41
10 GujaratiD 75.01
11 GujaratiC 76.65
12 GoyetQ116 81.42
13 GujaratiB 82.13
14 GujaratiA 83.5
15 Punjabi 85.48
16 Burusho 86.43
17 Sindhi 86.64
18 Kusunda 89.35
19 Pathan 89.43
20 Kalash 90.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.9% Andamanese + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
2 90.9% Australian + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
3 90.9% Papuan + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
4 90.7% Andamanese + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
5 90.7% Australian + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
6 90.7% Papuan + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
7 91.3% Andamanese + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
8 91.3% Australian + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
9 91.3% Papuan + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
10 89.4% Andamanese + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
11 89.4% Australian + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
12 89.4% Papuan + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
13 90.3% Andamanese + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
14 90.3% Australian + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
15 90.3% Papuan + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
16 91.6% Andamanese + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
17 91.6% Australian + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
18 91.6% Papuan + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
19 90.5% Andamanese + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12
20 90.5% Australian + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12

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Admix Results (sorted):

1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 100

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Andamanese 0
2 Australian 0
3 Papuan 0
4 Onge 17.66
5 Paniyas 59.23
6 Palliyar 64.67
7 Kharia 69.76
8 Bengali 79.95
9 Punjabi_PJL 81.6
10 GujaratiD 83.14
11 GujaratiC 84.63
12 GujaratiB 90.1
13 GoyetQ116 90.39
14 GujaratiA 91.43
15 Punjabi 93.43
16 Sindhi 94.44
17 Burusho 95.03
18 Pathan 97.37
19 Kalash 97.96
20 Pashtun_Afghan 99.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Onge + 0% Adygei @ 17.66
2 100% Onge + 0% AG2 @ 17.66
3 100% Onge + 0% AG3 @ 17.66
4 100% Onge + 0% Albanian @ 17.66
5 100% Onge + 0% Algerian @ 17.66
6 100% Onge + 0% Altaian @ 17.66
7 100% Onge + 0% Ami @ 17.66
8 100% Onge + 0% Anatolia_N @ 17.66
9 100% Onge + 0% Armenia_ChL @ 17.66
10 100% Onge + 0% Assyrian @ 17.66
11 100% Onge + 0% Azeri @ 17.66
12 100% Onge + 0% Balkar @ 17.66
13 100% Onge + 0% Baloch_Iranian @ 17.66
14 100% Onge + 0% Balochi @ 17.66
15 100% Onge + 0% Basque @ 17.66
16 100% Onge + 0% BedouinA @ 17.66
17 100% Onge + 0% Bengali @ 17.66
18 100% Onge + 0% Brahui @ 17.66
19 100% Onge + 0% Bulgarian @ 17.66
20 100% Onge + 0% Burusho @ 17.66

[Myanthropologies]

because ANE K6 ancient south eurasian component is based on papuans , australian aborigines , and andamanese islanders . it is the maximized and detailed australoid you can get .

ANE K6 has 6 admixture components which is not little

the ASI component on Eurasia K9 ASI is based on onge , andamanese and a few other tribal south indian populations only while K6 is based on papuans/australian aborigines on top of it along with andamanese

it is definitely without a question a better indicator of australoid admix

here a result from an australian aborigine and a papuan

Admix Results (sorted):

1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 90.27
2 East_Asian 5.69
3 Sub_Saharan 3.24
4 Natufian 0.42
5 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

1 Onge 8.46
2 Australian 11.34
3 Andamanese 11.34
4 Papuan 11.34
5 Paniyas 50
6 Palliyar 55.51
7 Kharia 59.47
8 Bengali 71.01
9 Punjabi_PJL 73.41
10 GujaratiD 75.01
11 GujaratiC 76.65
12 GoyetQ116 81.42
13 GujaratiB 82.13
14 GujaratiA 83.5
15 Punjabi 85.48
16 Burusho 86.43
17 Sindhi 86.64
18 Kusunda 89.35
19 Pathan 89.43
20 Kalash 90.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.9% Andamanese + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
2 90.9% Australian + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
3 90.9% Papuan + 9.1% Altaian @ 3.77
4 90.7% Andamanese + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
5 90.7% Australian + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
6 90.7% Papuan + 9.3% Kyrgyz @ 3.78
7 91.3% Andamanese + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
8 91.3% Australian + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
9 91.3% Papuan + 8.7% Kalmyk @ 3.84
10 89.4% Andamanese + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
11 89.4% Australian + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
12 89.4% Papuan + 10.6% Kusunda @ 3.97
13 90.3% Andamanese + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
14 90.3% Australian + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
15 90.3% Papuan + 9.7% Sherpa @ 4.02
16 91.6% Andamanese + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
17 91.6% Australian + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
18 91.6% Papuan + 8.4% Eskimo @ 4.12
19 90.5% Andamanese + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12
20 90.5% Australian + 9.5% Cambodian @ 4.12

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Admix Results (sorted):

1 Ancestral_South_Eurasian 100

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance

1 Andamanese 0
2 Australian 0
3 Papuan 0
4 Onge 17.66
5 Paniyas 59.23
6 Palliyar 64.67
7 Kharia 69.76
8 Bengali 79.95
9 Punjabi_PJL 81.6
10 GujaratiD 83.14
11 GujaratiC 84.63
12 GujaratiB 90.1
13 GoyetQ116 90.39
14 GujaratiA 91.43
15 Punjabi 93.43
16 Sindhi 94.44
17 Burusho 95.03
18 Pathan 97.37
19 Kalash 97.96
20 Pashtun_Afghan 99.68

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Onge + 0% Adygei @ 17.66
2 100% Onge + 0% AG2 @ 17.66
3 100% Onge + 0% AG3 @ 17.66
4 100% Onge + 0% Albanian @ 17.66
5 100% Onge + 0% Algerian @ 17.66
6 100% Onge + 0% Altaian @ 17.66
7 100% Onge + 0% Ami @ 17.66
8 100% Onge + 0% Anatolia_N @ 17.66
9 100% Onge + 0% Armenia_ChL @ 17.66
10 100% Onge + 0% Assyrian @ 17.66
11 100% Onge + 0% Azeri @ 17.66
12 100% Onge + 0% Balkar @ 17.66
13 100% Onge + 0% Baloch_Iranian @ 17.66
14 100% Onge + 0% Balochi @ 17.66
15 100% Onge + 0% Basque @ 17.66
16 100% Onge + 0% BedouinA @ 17.66
17 100% Onge + 0% Bengali @ 17.66
18 100% Onge + 0% Brahui @ 17.66
19 100% Onge + 0% Bulgarian @ 17.66
20 100% Onge + 0% Burusho @ 17.66

Obviously they are going to score 100% Ancestral_South_Indian when you base the component off of them. If you called the component "French" and based it off of them, they would score 100% "French." It doesn't mean that all the affinity comes from australoid admixture.

ANE k9 bases asi off of onge, because they may havr been the closest to real ASI's. In that calculator, melanesians only score a quarter ASI. And they score a fair bit of CHG, and that doesn't just happen by accident. There seems to be both shared caucasoid and Australoid ancestry between south indians and melanesians.

It also makes sense that the dominating component in Australian aborigines is Southeast Asian, because their ancestry from there is well documented.


As early as 50,000 years ago, the first modern humans made the narrow sea crossing from Southeast Asia to the Melanesia region after following the southern coastal route out of Africa. About 25,000 years ago, at the height of the last glacial period, Australia, Tasmania and Papua New Guinea were part of the same landmass, called Sahul. They were separated about 10,000 years ago, when melting glaciers caused the sea level to rise.

https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/melanesia

[Hadouken]

Obviously they are going to score 100% Ancestral_South_Indian when you base the component off of them. If you called the component "French" and based it off of them, they would score 100% "French." It doesn't mean that all the affinity comes from australoid admixture.

ANE k9 bases asi off of onge, because they may havr been the closest to real ASI's. In that calculator, melanesians only score a quarter ASI. And they score a fair bit of CHG, and that doesn't just happen by accident. There seems to be both shared caucasoid and Australoid ancestry between south indians and melanesians.

It also makes sense that the dominating component in Australian aborigines is Southeast Asian, because their ancestry from there is well documented.



https://www.ancestry.com/dna/ethnicity/melanesia

yes to find out australoid admix you base the australoid component on australoid peoples ..!!! ....or which other people other than papuans , australian aboriginies , and andamanese should be taken for it ? I dont know what there is not to understand right now . are you doing this on purpose ? I really wonder . I will go step by step for you to make you understand

1. Australian Aborigines , Papuans , Andamanese = Australoid people

2. the calculator ANE K6 takes exactly those australoid people to make the ancestral south eurasian component

RESULT =

3. the ANE K6 calculator is the best so far to look for australoid score . so other people can find out their own australoid


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yes ASI K9 is based on south indian tribals only without papuan/australian aborigine . and yes they have chg admix . but we are talking about australoid component which the other calculator is better suited for . if still not understood then read the 3 points above again

[Zroota]

Not surprised that they have relations to Caucasoids, as, like Caucasians, Aboriginals have a pronounced brow ridge (although theirs is much more stronger). Negroids and Mongoloids lack a prominent brow ridge, especially the latter.