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Mingle
07-20-2017, 07:31 PM
Russia has been slowly taking land from neighboring Georgia for years, and Moscow appears to have done it again in early July, moving its borders about 2,300 feet into the former satellite state, according to Yahoo News UK.

On July 3, Russia troops simply picked up a border sign and moved it farther into Georgian territory, Yahoo reported.

Georgia's security agency said the land grab was "illegal," according to The Independent.

“This is a continuation of the illegal process of the so-called borderization, which not only violates the fundamental rights of local residents but directly damages the security situation,” the Georgian security agency said in a statement.

Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and shortly thereafter recognized two parts of Georgia, South Ossetia and Abkhazia, as independent states. But most of the world still views these territories as part of Georgia.

Russia started using these "borderization" tactics in June 2008 when it set up a "military demarcation line" between Abkhazia and Georgia. The latest move came just days before a meeting between President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G20 summit in Germany.

Borderization, also known as "creeping," usually involves Russian troops setting up barbed-wire fences, signs, or other obstacles to occupy Georgian land in small enough increments that Georgia and the West do nothing more than verbally condemn the action.

The ongoing expansion appears to have intimidated Georgia, which "apparently bought into Moscow’s logic that Georgia would be blamed for "provocation and escalation," Vladimir Socor, an analyst for the Jamestown Foundation, wrote in 2013.

Over the last nine years, these creeping tactics have split up villages and farms, as did the move in early July, which the Georgian government said affected local farmers.

A spokeswoman for Georgian embassy in Washington told Business Insider it's too difficult to estimate how much land Russia has seized since 2008 but that Moscow's main goal in such seizures is to stymie Georgia's efforts to join the EU and NATO.

Countries seeking to join NATO cannot have any outstanding territorial disputes.

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user_
07-20-2017, 09:25 PM
They want to provoke Georgians to start war, after that Russia will occupy whole country.

Lavrentis
07-20-2017, 09:27 PM
Pieces of shit. Bullying smaller countries.

Jehan
07-20-2017, 09:31 PM
They want to provoke Georgians to start war, after that Russia will occupy whole country.


Why does russia would want to occupy whole Georgia?
To give an exemple to other countries who whish to leave the russian world?

user_
07-20-2017, 09:38 PM
Why does russia would want to occupy whole Georgia?
To give an exemple to other countries who whish to leave the russian world?

They want to punish Georgia for Euro-atlantic orientation.

Mingle
07-20-2017, 10:09 PM
They want to provoke Georgians to start war, after that Russia will occupy whole country.

I know Abkhazia and South Ossetia are historically Georgian lands, but do you think if Georgia accepted their independence, then it would stop Russia from occupying even more land and a truce could be agreed upon? If not, then what do you think Georgia should do?

Wrong
07-20-2017, 10:11 PM
Freedom for the Kavkaz! Fuck the oppressive Russkis.

Dick
07-20-2017, 10:15 PM
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Kamal900
07-20-2017, 10:18 PM
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Removing Kebab at it's finest.

NordicMan
07-20-2017, 10:35 PM
I support Russians. Superior Slavs.

Dandelion
07-20-2017, 10:37 PM
Some Georgians even found their property split in half over the border moving overnight. One such tragic example has family members living on the Russian-controlled side. Sucks for them.

user_
07-21-2017, 06:40 AM
I know Abkhazia and South Ossetia are historically Georgian lands, but do you think if Georgia accepted their independence, then it would stop Russia from occupying even more land and a truce could be agreed upon? If not, then what do you think Georgia should do?

It would not stop Russia. The main goal for Russians is not Abkhazia, or Osetia, the main goal is to return Georgia and whole Caucasus under Russian influence.

user_
07-21-2017, 06:54 AM
Some Georgians even found their property split in half over the border moving overnight. One such tragic example has family members living on the Russian-controlled side. Sucks for them.

This was the reason of war in 2008.
When you wake up in the morning, you can be on another side of border. Russians and Osets were kidnapping people from Georgian villages and put them in jail for 20 years, for "illegal border crossing". Once Georgia decided to protect a village from Osetian bandits and Russia invaded Georgia with 90 000 troop, to "save Osetians".
Now they are doing pretty much the same. Provoking Georgians to use troop for defending borders and than they will invade again.

Mingle
07-21-2017, 08:02 PM
It would not stop Russia. The main goal for Russians is not Abkhazia, or Osetia, the main goal is to return Georgia and whole Caucasus under Russian influence.

Okay. But how would they be able to do that if there is no territorial dispute?

user_
07-22-2017, 05:50 AM
Okay. But how would they be able to do that if there is no territorial dispute?

There are regions with Azeri and Armenian population in the south. They can use them, usually Azerbaijanians and especially Armenians re pro Russian.