Classify Ancient Greek Idealised Sculpture

[Hamlet]

Just as the title says, but ignore pigmentation (pretty easy seeing all colour has been eroded away) and classify it ONLY from this side-profile:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nKSWCeZ7lfg/TJ8Nc6XncMI/AAAAAAAABB4/I0H5hUGWY_E/s1600/greek-statue%255B1%255D.jpg

[JMack]

Between Gracile-Med and Alpine-Med.

[Lavrentis]

Between Gracile-Med and Alpine-Med.

Why do you have that dictator as your avatar?

[Hamlet]

Between Gracile-Med and Alpine-Med.

Really? An opinion is an opinion but I see no Alpine whatsoever. As for Gracile-Med, fair enough.

[JMack]

Why do you have that dictator as your avatar?

President Assad is not a dictator and together with President Putin is one of the main leaders against Zionist/Anglo forces in the world. He is a man who deserves respect.

[JMack]

Really? An opinion is an opinion but I see no Alpine whatsoever. As for Gracile-Med, fair enough.

More Gracile-Med than Alpine-Med. But she have some small traces of Alpinization.

[Hamlet]

President Assad is not a dictator and together with President Putin is one of the main leaders against Zionist/Anglo forces in the world. He is a man who deserves respect.

I'm going to guess you know what /sg/ stands for.

[Columella]

Might be a Later (XIX century) reconstruction? Check the crack on face and different texture on lower face.



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[NordicMan]

President Assad is not a dictator and together with President Putin is one of the main leaders against Zionist/Anglo forces in the world. He is a man who deserves respect.

I agree that Zionism is a problem, but Anglo imperialism has improved the conditions of life for millions upon millions of third worlders like Latin Americans, for example. Anglos ended slavery in the whole world and (together with Germanics) invented the modern machinery used to improve production and wealth creation. Anglo forces are probably the most benevolent ever in comparison to all other leader-nations that ever existed.

[JMack]

I'm going to guess you know what /sg/ stands for.

There are two forces fighting in a war nowadays: The Empire of Evil (Zionists/Anglos/their vassals) and the Axis of God leaded by Russia.

[Hamlet]

Might be a Later (XIX century) reconstruction? Check the crack on face and different texture on lower face.



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Could be, but in terms of taxonomy it's the same.

[RN97]

You should have included the males too as they had different ideals for men. BTW note the hair ;)
http://i.imgur.com/EUxeRr0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2sF5Ja.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PGWXwvC.jpg

[JMack]

You should have included the males too as they had different ideals for men. BTW note the hair ;)


They look North African according to some TA ''experts''... You know who they are. lol

[Hamlet]

You should have included the males too as they had different ideals for men. BTW note the hair ;)
http://i.imgur.com/EUxeRr0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2sF5Ja.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PGWXwvC.jpg

I know, not claiming they're pure 100% Nordics :P Though, a lot of their depictions have blonde curly hair, which is an unusual trait nowadays.

[JMack]

I know, not claiming they're pure 100% Nordics :P Though, a lot of their depictions have blonde curly hair, which is an unusual trait nowadays.

Have you seen the racial reality post that proves that of 200 Roman emperors only 5 were Nordid?

Metrically they're mostly Dinarics, Dinaricized Mediterraneans and Alpines.

[Hamlet]

Have you seen the racial reality post that proves that of 200 Roman emperors only 5 were Nordid?

Metrically they're mostly Dinarics, Dinaricized Mediterraneans and Alpines.

Eh, I do think they were more Nordic than most people would think. Again, they can't have been all blonde hair blue eyes as they associated that with the Germans and Gauls.

[Lavrentis]

President Assad is not a dictator and together with President Putin is one of the main leaders against Zionist/Anglo forces in the world. He is a man who deserves respect.

You are probably another conspiracy theorist. How is Putin a main leader against Zionist and Anglo forces when the reason he is loved in Russia is because he invades small countries like Georgia and Ukraine?

[Lavrentis]

Classifying statues shouldn't even be a thing.

[brennus dux gallorum]

I know, not claiming they're pure 100% Nordics :P Though, a lot of their depictions have blonde curly hair, which is an unusual trait nowadays.
blonde curly hair is more unusual, but blonde in general is more usual nowadays, for particular historical reasons

[Hamlet]

Classifying statues shouldn't even be a thing.

Disagree.

[JMack]

Eh, I do think they were more Nordic than most people would think. Again, they can't have been all blonde hair blue eyes as they associated that with the Germans and Gauls.

http://racialreality.altervista.org/romans.html

''Nordicists like to claim ancient cultures for Northern Europe, and attribute their decline to the absorption of slaves. To accomplish this they offer selective evidence and conjecture, while overstressing the significance of blondism. In the case of Rome, the data, as well as Roman statuary, shows that the producers of that culture were subracially mixed, with Alpine and Dinaric elements predominating, and that slavery must have had a negligible impact. Also, the culture's igniting spark came from the Etruscans, who were Mediterranean.''

[Lavrentis]

Disagree.

It doesn't make sense, in reality a statue from 2.000 years ago would look completely different. Are we sure that sculptors were interested in the head shape of the person for exampe? If Ceasar was brachycephalic and a sculptor makes him dolichocephalic, then we are talking about a different classification.

[Hamlet]

http://racialreality.altervista.org/romans.html

''Nordicists like to claim ancient cultures for Northern Europe, and attribute their decline to the absorption of slaves. To accomplish this they offer selective evidence and conjecture, while overstressing the significance of blondism. In the case of Rome, the data, as well as Roman statuary, shows that the producers of that culture were subracially mixed, with Alpine and Dinaric elements predominating, and that slavery must have had a negligible impact. Also, the culture's igniting spark came from the Etruscans, who were Mediterranean.''

I believe the original Latins were pretty Nordic.

[JMack]

You are probably another conspiracy theorist. How is Putin a main leader against Zionist and Anglo forces when the reason he is loved in Russia is because he invades small countries like Georgia and Ukraine?

This is not conspiracy theory. You can easily research about the pipelines and the gas problem that ignites the whole war in the Middle East and how it is related to a configuration of forces in the world. I'm not entering in detail here because I don't want to derail this thread.

[Hamlet]

It doesn't make sense, in reality a statue from 2.000 years ago would look completely different. Are we sure that sculptors were interested in the head shape of the person for exampe? If Ceasar was brachycephalic and a sculptor makes him dolichocephalic, then we are talking about a different classification.

Sure but in terms of facial features. Cephalic index is a very narrow way to look at things, AND we can tell the cephalic indices just from skeletons.

[RN97]

I know, not claiming they're pure 100% Nordics :P Though, a lot of their depictions have blonde curly hair, which is an unusual trait nowadays.

I was more talking about ultra feminine vs. ultra masculine features. However if you want to anthrotard the woman you posted does not look specifically nordic to me. It's hard to tell apart meds and nordics as they have the same facial features without pigmentation.

[JMack]

I believe the original Latins were pretty Nordic.

I disagree. Not even the first IEs were ''Nordic'' in the proper sense.

http://new-indology.blogspot.com.br/2014/10/can-we-finally-identify-real-cradle-of.html

Note that I can back all my claims with sources (and recent ones).

[Hamlet]

I was more talking about ultra feminine vs. ultra masculine features. However if you want to anthrotard the woman you posted does not look specifically nordic to me. It's hard to tell apart meds and nordics as they have the same facial features without pigmentation.

Agreed, imo (modern) Nordics tend to have less gracile features a lot of time due to extra Neanderthal (such as with the larger brow ridge).

[Hamlet]

I disagree. Not even the first IEs were ''Nordic'' in the proper sense.

http://new-indology.blogspot.com.br/2014/10/can-we-finally-identify-real-cradle-of.html

Note that I can back all my claims with sources (and recent ones).

The original IE were a mixture of Nordics and Meds. The R1a IEs seemed to be Nordic, whereas the R1b IEs seemed to be more Med (in terms of pigmentation at least). Not sure where red hair comes into this, as that is solidly R1b.

[Hamlet]

Hithaeglir-oid :P
Looks gracile med!

It does, but I personally think the inspiration is North Pontid/Corded.

[Odin]

Gracile-Med.

[FroZzenMind]

That nose isn´t nordic?

[crazyladybutterfly]

Just as the title says, but ignore pigmentation (pretty easy seeing all colour has been eroded away) and classify it ONLY from this side-profile:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nKSWCeZ7lfg/TJ8Nc6XncMI/AAAAAAAABB4/I0H5hUGWY_E/s1600/greek-statue%255B1%255D.jpg

this is heathegirl or whatever is her nickname avatar

[crazyladybutterfly]

That nose isn´t nordic?

looks like the nose of this actress who had the role of Helena in the movie troy

http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/10300000/Diane-in-Troy-diane-kruger-10317477-853-480.jpg

[DarknessWin]

Straight Nose is Med Feature ,
agree with Gracile-Med

[Hellenas]

Just as the title says, but ignore pigmentation (pretty easy seeing all colour has been eroded away) and classify it ONLY from this side-profile:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_nKSWCeZ7lfg/TJ8Nc6XncMI/AAAAAAAABB4/I0H5hUGWY_E/s1600/greek-statue%255B1%255D.jpg

Looks like this Greek actress. Elli Lambeti.

http://www.dalaras.gr/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/lampeti_thumb1.jpg

http://www.mixanitouxronou.gr/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/HORN-LABETH-collage.jpg

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/44/c2/57/44c257d10eac2b6849a174fe418528dd.jpg

http://s.enet.gr/resources/2010-01/koritsi1-thumb-large.jpg

http://www.palmografos.com/thumbnail.php?file=_______________837089409.jpeg&size=article_smallhttp://www.greektube.eu/uploads/thumbs/11aac3e7a-1.jpg

http://www.athensvoice.gr/sites/default/files/imagecache/image_570x460/article/48226-106970.jpg

[Columella]

I don't think they fit any of the anthrotypes


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[catgeorge]

Ionian/Greek Islander/Anatolid

[nightrider+]

You should have included the males too as they had different ideals for men. BTW note the hair ;)
http://i.imgur.com/EUxeRr0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/F2sF5Ja.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PGWXwvC.jpg

Only the second is Greek. The first is Roman and the third from the Italian renaissance.

Greek art went from this:
http://i.imgur.com/0cbNcZy.jpg

To this:

http://i.imgur.com/16z8ZzD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/57pkWcQ.jpg

Then this:
http://i.imgur.com/yueeLH9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZQFODyj.jpg

[Queen B]

That nose isn´t nordic?
That nose is the epitome of what is called "Greek" nose (lack of root/dent between brows,start of nose)

[MINARDOWICZ]

Norid... and a little Gracile Med. Not NORDID but NORID BTW.

[Kamal900]

A Mediterranean goddess.

[Newsboy]

Mediterranean

Some resemblance with this actress

https://s12.postimg.org/3p53j5esd/P_E.jpg

[de Burgh II]

Very pretty! :p

Looks like a mix between Mediterranean and alpine.

[TrevorXdX]

Gracile Mediterranid