Guess challenge: Serbs and Croats. [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

Lavrentis

08-01-2017, 07:23 PM

Can you guess which people below are Serbs and which are Croats?

1

https://s2.postimg.org/wi9pg2yt5/IMG_3686_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/k3mxfr7at/)

https://s1.postimg.org/3vqnlm7cf/IMG_3687_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/e5t2kux7v/)

https://s4.postimg.org/4i6rq51vh/IMG_3688_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/ya3u5boop/)

2

https://s3.postimg.org/hdi9ddntf/IMG_3691_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/othiz6bin/)

https://s2.postimg.org/c4g9vt02h/IMG_3692_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/rd679ktqt/)

https://s3.postimg.org/3ngkn1yir/IMG_3693_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/qox5ssy67/)

3

https://s2.postimg.org/gfvd8in15/IMG_3694_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/t79jf0wt1/)

https://s2.postimg.org/463hb4vt5/IMG_3695_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/4vm9nhwcl/)

4

https://s2.postimg.org/gea1a0t2x/IMG_3712_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/mf7q73fp1/)

https://s3.postimg.org/ehlfj91bn/IMG_3713_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/bnia5sz5b/)

5

https://s3.postimg.org/jzq659u9v/IMG_3697_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/5gj13v14v/)

https://s4.postimg.org/4ivdueh2l/IMG_3699_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/vtgp2bjzd/)

6

https://s3.postimg.org/4net4froz/IMG_3700_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/nsi2e76cv/)

https://s1.postimg.org/whqsw6833/IMG_3701_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/575ho9563/)

https://s3.postimg.org/5vnh5a9kz/IMG_3702_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/pq9ireosf/)

7

https://s1.postimg.org/nfr6ewexb/IMG_3703_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/ih3o0db4b/)

https://s4.postimg.org/uhzwve4od/IMG_3704_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/f99zhmazt/)

8

https://s3.postimg.org/pl0r95g8j/IMG_3716_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/ihsvtjasv/)

https://s1.postimg.org/hg3fb8u4v/IMG_3717_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/kzpd11wuj/)

https://s2.postimg.org/q03765yop/IMG_3718_2.png (https://postimg.org/image/rf4ruvzrp/)

Lavrentis

08-01-2017, 07:25 PM

Had to delete some images so they would fit, so for example some numbers have 2 images instead of 3.

Bosniensis

08-01-2017, 07:27 PM

1. Greek

2. Serb

3. Serb

4. Greek

5. Croat

6. Croat

7. Serb

8. Greek

Lavrentis

08-01-2017, 07:29 PM

1. Greek

2. Serb

3. Serb

4. Greek

5. Croat

6. Croat

7. Serb

8. Greek

None of them is Greek and they don't look Greek. And you are not close. Try again if you want.

MysteriousWays

08-01-2017, 07:31 PM

Going out on a limb here, but let's try this...

#1: Croat
#2: Serb
#3: Serb
#4: Croat
#5: Serb
#6: Croat
#7: Serb
#8: Croat

Lavrentis

08-01-2017, 07:33 PM

Going out on a limb here, but let's try this...

#1: Croat
#2: Serb
#3: Serb
#4: Croat
#5: Serb
#6: Croat
#7: Serb
#8: Croat

You got 4!

Bosniensis

08-01-2017, 07:34 PM

None of them is Greek and they don't look Greek. And you are not close. Try again if you want.

Ok.

1. Croat (too much round face)

2. Serb

3. Serb

4. Croat

5. Serb

6. Croat

7. Croat

8. Croat

Western Balkans = all the same people.. nations are pretty much fictitious religious groups.

If I am wrong than it pretty much sums my previous statement.

MysteriousWays

08-01-2017, 07:35 PM

You got 4!

So the same as randomly guessing...

Lavrentis

08-01-2017, 07:36 PM

Ok.

1. Croat (too much round face)

2. Serb

3. Serb

4. Croat

5. Serb

6. Croat

7. Croat

8. Croat

Western Balkans = all the same people.. nations are pretty much fictitious religious groups.

If I am wrong than it pretty much sums my previous statement.

You got 3 correct this time.

Odin

08-02-2017, 02:12 PM

2,4,6,7 are Croats.

Lavrentis

08-02-2017, 08:35 PM

Bump

Dick

08-02-2017, 08:36 PM

Bump

Albanian :lol00002:

Oneeye

08-02-2017, 08:41 PM

All Greek to me

Сербо Макеридов

08-02-2017, 08:44 PM

I have no idea.

Majority of them looks like Albanians, Vlachs and Greeks.

Lavrentis

08-02-2017, 08:45 PM

I have no idea.

Majority of them looks like Albanians, Vlachs and Greeks.

None of them looks Greek, lol.

Сербо Макеридов

08-02-2017, 08:49 PM

None of them looks Greek, lol.
They look like Vlachs.
Of course they looks like Greeks, because Greeks have assimilated many Vlachs.

Сербо Макеридов

08-02-2017, 08:50 PM

Majority of Greeks in northwest of Greece are Vlach origin.

Lavrentis

08-02-2017, 08:51 PM

They look like Vlachs.
Of course they looks like Greeks, because Greeks have assimilated many Vlachs.

Vlachs in Greece are genetically Greek and have nothing to do with Balkan Vlachs. 'Vlach' is just a name for Latin speakers given to various people anywany. For example, Italy is called 'Vlochy' in Polish.

Btw Serbs are known as Vlachs and gypsies in the Balkans.

Balmung

08-02-2017, 08:57 PM

1. South American
2. American sjw mutt, sociology major definately
3. 25% native wasp hipster
4. Slavic as fuck, slavic hairline strong
5. Cholo as fuck
6. Stereotypical Russian antagonist
7. Puerto Rican
8. Slavic as fuck bro

Lavrentis

08-02-2017, 09:00 PM

Majority of Greeks in northwest of Greece are Vlach origin.

Not a majority, and their Vlach descent is linguistic, because genetically they are Greek.

Laberia

08-02-2017, 09:13 PM

Not a majority, and their Vlach descent is linguistic, because genetically they are Greek.

If something has been proven about Vlachs is the fact that they were not greeks before latinisation. So, stop with this crap.

Lavrentis

08-02-2017, 09:16 PM

If something has been proven about Vlachs is the fact that they were not greeks before latinisation. So, stop with this crap.

Give me proofs. To be honest not all of them are genetically Greek.

And can you understand that even the demonyms of Belgium and Wales come from 'Vlachs ? The Vlachs are not one entity.

Сербо Макеридов

08-02-2017, 10:11 PM

Vlachs in Greece are genetically Greek and have nothing to do with Balkan Vlachs. 'Vlach' is just a name for Latin speakers given to various people anywany. For example, Italy is called 'Vlochy' in Polish.

Btw Serbs are known as Vlachs and gypsies in the Balkans.:picard1:

Serbs are much whither than Grreks.
Many Greeks looks Middle Eastern.
My cousin who lives in US is married to Greek, her husband and his family and relatives looks like Armenians.

Aromanian-Vlachs are not Greeks, but majority of them are assimilated into the Greek nation.

https://youtu.be/z6y77blgi0g

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 01:39 PM

Serbs are much whither than Grreks.
Many Greeks looks Middle Eastern.
My cousin who lives in US is married to Greek, her husband and his family and relatives looks like Armenians.

Aromanian-Vlachs are not Greeks, but majority of them are assimilated into the Greek nation.

https://youtu.be/z6y77blgi0g

Greeks with Armenoid and West Asian features are Anatolian Greeks. In short, during 1923, a population exchange took part between Greece and Turkey,all muslims from Greece went to Turkey and all Greek-speaking christians from Turkey went to Greece. Most of the people that Greece received were genetically Anatolian. Read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

Not all Vlachs are genetically Greek, truth be told. But most are. I think Aromanians are a separate entity from the Vlachs of western Greece.

Btw Serbs are called gypsies, Vlachs and Turks by their neighbors.

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 08:17 PM

Greeks with Armenoid and West Asian features are Anatolian Greeks. In short, during 1923, a population exchange took part between Greece and Turkey,all muslims from Greece went to Turkey and all Greek-speaking christians from Turkey went to Greece. Most of the people that Greece received were genetically Anatolian. Read more here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

Not all Vlachs are genetically Greek, truth be told. But most are. I think Aromanians are a separate entity from the Vlachs of western Greece.

Btw Serbs are called gypsies, Vlachs and Turks by their neighbors.

Buhaaaa!!!

Most dominant haplogroups among Serbs are I2a and R1a and they are both European, I2a is peleo-European and R1a is Kurgan-Aryan marker.

Most dominant haplogroups among Greeks and Albanians are J2 and E1b, J2 is Anatolian-Middle Eastern and E1b is North-African marker.

Serbs and Greeks/Albanians have nothing in common genetically, with Greeks we only have the same religion, nothing more.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e6/94/29/e694297e50f1fb6e82cc18f8d07cdf9d.png

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 08:31 PM

Buhaaaa!!!

Most dominant haplogroups among Serbs are I2a and R1a and they are both European, I2a is peleo-European and R1a is Kurgan-Aryan marker.

Most dominant haplogroups among Greeks and Albanians are J2 and E1b, J2 is Anatolian-Middle Eastern and E1b is North-Arrican marker.

Serbs and Greeks/Albanians have nothing in common genetically, with Greeks we only have the same religion, nothing more.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e6/94/29/e694297e50f1fb6e82cc18f8d07cdf9d.png

It is true that Serbs and Greeks have nothing to do with each other.

I don't want to be associated with Serbs.

But unfortunately many of your countrymen think that we are your "friends" or something and they create fake "brotherhoods". Serbs are obsessed with Greece. Remember how much your countrymen were leeching on Greece during the 90's?

I hope that Serbs stop leeching on Greeks.

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 08:41 PM

It is true that Serbs and Greeks have nothing to do with each other.

I don't want to be associated with Serbs.

But unfortunately many of your countrymen think that we are your "friends" or something and they create fake "brotherhoods". Serbs are obsessed with Greece. Remember how much your countrymen were leeching on Greece during the 90's?

I hope that Serbs stop leeching on Greeks.

It is paradoxically that you Greeks and Turks are genetically the same shit, and so much hatred among you.:coffee:

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 08:48 PM

It is paradoxically that you Greeks and Turks are genetically the same shit, and so much hatred among you.:coffee:

You have no answer for my post?

Anyway, some points:

1)Greeks and Turks are genetically very different.

2) I'm telling you once more, Serbs are known as Vlachs, Turks and gypsies by their neighbors. Maybe your neighbors know something more?

3) There is no hatred among Greeks for any people. But yeah, on average people here dislike the Turks. Turks are one of the most disliked people in the world anyway, like Serbs.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 08:49 PM

Btw the guy who thumbed you up is some Serbian diaspora retard.

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 08:54 PM

You have no answer for my post?

Anyway, some points:

1)Greeks and Turks are genetically very different.

2) I'm telling you once more, Serbs are known as Vlachs, Turks and gypsies by their neighbors. Maybe your neighbors know something more?

3) There is no hatred among Greeks for any people. But yeah, on average people here dislike the Turks. Turks, like Serbs, are one of the most disliked people in the world anyway.

Dude, haplogroup J2 is most dominant among Greeks and among Turks.

Also genetically you are very close to Albanians, even closer than to the Turks.

Among Greeks and Albanians two most dominant haplogroups are E1b and J2, first one is originally from Anatolia and second one is from North Africa.

Even in autosamal DNA you Greeks and Albanians are cery close to each other, but you are also quite close to the Turks.

Dick

08-03-2017, 08:54 PM

Btw the guy who thumbed you up is some Serbian diaspora retard.

Why so sensitive? are you a female or do you have too much estrogen?

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 08:56 PM

Why so sensitive? are you a female or do you have too much estrogen?

How am I sensitive? I said that you are a retard because you are one.

Voskos

08-03-2017, 08:56 PM

Dude, haplogroup J2 is most dominant among Greeks and among Turks.

Also genetically you are very clkose to Albanians, even closer than to the Turks.

Among Greeks and Albanians two most dominant haplogroups are E1b and J2, first one is originally from Anatolia and second one is from North Africa.

Even in autosamal DNA you Greeks and Albanians are cery close to each other, but you are also quite close to the Turks.

serbia has high E1b in the south. especially the basketball players are E1b

Dick

08-03-2017, 08:57 PM

How am I sensitive? I said that you are a retard because you are one.

And you are a sensitive internet warrior. I can thumb up whoever i want :lol:

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 08:59 PM

serbia has high E1b in the south. especially the basketball players are E1b

It is normal, because there is a 2 million Albanians in Kosovo.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:04 PM

Dude, haplogroup J2 is most dominant among Greeks and among Turks.

Also genetically you are very close to Albanians, even closer than to the Turks.

Among Greeks and Albanians two most dominant haplogroups are E1b and J2, first one is originally from Anatolia and second one is from North Africa.

Even in autosamal DNA you Greeks and Albanians are cery close to each other, but you are also quite close to the Turks.

1) The only Greeks who are genetically close to Turks are groups of Anatolian Greeks who haven't intermarried with a Greek from Greece proper.

2)It's not the first time I hear this, and I find it interesting how Albanians and Greeks are supposedly genetically close to each other. We look very different.

3) As far as I know, Serbia was the only place in the Ottoman Empire where Turkish officials could sleep with a wife in the first night of her marriage. Might explain phenotypes such as these(all Serbs):

https://platform-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p210237.png

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2nd+Annual+Celebrity+Poker+Challenge+Benefiting+9R DlYOAnwOnl.jpg

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Nikola%20Veljovic2_zpsbh97k69j.jpg~original

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/UjVsCGdEgln.DB8MN6lWDw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNjk7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/f93d74a62e257710f30e6a7067002849.jpg

Nothing wrong with looking Turkish though, not my point.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:06 PM

And you are a sensitive internet warrior. I can thumb up whoever i want :lol:

I'm not either, it is who you are the sensitive retard and started calling me Albanian out of nowhere.

Dick

08-03-2017, 09:08 PM

I'm not either, it is who you are the sensitive retard and started calling me Albanian out of nowhere.
The Greeks called you that first, you whiny sensitive beta faggot. I dont give a fuck what you are. Just trolling you, dumbfuck.

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 09:10 PM

1) The only Greeks who are genetically close to Turks are groups of Anatolian Greeks who haven't intermarried with a Greek from Greece proper.

2)It's not the first time I hear this, and I find it interesting how Albanians and Greeks are supposedly genetically close to each other. We look very different.

3) As far as I know, Serbia was the only place in the Ottoman Empire where Turkish officials could sleep with a wife in the first night of her marriage. Might explain phenotypes such as these(all Serbs):

https://platform-static-files.s3.amazonaws.com/premierleague/photos/players/250x250/p210237.png

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/2nd+Annual+Celebrity+Poker+Challenge+Benefiting+9R DlYOAnwOnl.jpg

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af18/oditous2/Nikola%20Veljovic2_zpsbh97k69j.jpg~original

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/UjVsCGdEgln.DB8MN6lWDw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7Zmk9aW5zZXQ7aD0zNjk7cT04NTt3PTUxMg--/http://media.zenfs.com/en_us/News/ap_webfeeds/f93d74a62e257710f30e6a7067002849.jpg

Nothing wrong with looking Turkish though, not my point.

First and third guys are Gipsyes, second guy is from Sandzak, wich mean that he maybe have Karavlach origine or he is illegitimate son of some Sadzak Muslim.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:14 PM

The Greeks called you that first, you whiny sensitive beta faggot. I dont give a fuck what you are. Just trolling you, dumbfuck.

Stupid son of a Serbian whore, who told you that I take you serious? I just want to have something to play with for now, so it's good that you started calling me an Albanian. You are my game at the moment, I will throw insults at you until I get bored.

Btw, is that your father in your avatar? I've seen some Serbs who look like that.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:15 PM

First and third guys are Gipsyes, second guy is from Sandzak, wich mean that he maybe have Karavlach origine or he is illegitimate son of some Sadzak Muslim.

Nice excuses.

Dick

08-03-2017, 09:17 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/IJVF4Pj62lcAw/giphy.gif

Go ahead if it makes you feel better, sensitive beta faggot :lol:

Btw the man in my avatar is a Finn.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?216873-Buli-and-his-testo-brother

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:19 PM

Go ahead if it makes you feel better, sensitive beta faggot :lol:

Btw the man in my avatar is a Finn.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?216873-Buli-and-his-testo-brother

Only an imbecile with the mind of a 12 year old would use the words 'beta' and 'faggot' as an insult. How old are you?

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 09:21 PM

Typical Greek

https://youtu.be/XWaxgafQFJk

Ujku

08-03-2017, 09:24 PM

It is normal, because there is a 2 million Albanians in Kosovo.

Hahhaha good one.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:25 PM

Typical Greek

https://youtu.be/XWaxgafQFJk

Bourousis=Burushi. That sounds Albanian.

Ujku

08-03-2017, 09:25 PM

Also wtf?? Vlachs are just romanized locals.

Albanian vlachs look 100% Albanian and Greek vlachs look 100% Greek.

Ujku

08-03-2017, 09:26 PM

Most of them can pass as Albanians.

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:26 PM

Also wtf?? Vlachs are just romanized locals.

Albanian vlachs look 100% Albanian and Greek vlachs look 100% Greek.

This. The Serb dude probably hates that his countrymen are considered to be a mix of Vlachs, Turks and gypsies by his country's neighbors, so he spreads misinformation.

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 09:26 PM

Typical Anatolian-Middle Eastern Greek
https://u.cubeupload.com/Fci1ua.jpg

Lavrentis

08-03-2017, 09:29 PM

https://u.cubeupload.com/Fci1ua.jpg

http://www.intermagazin.rs/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Vuk-Draskovic1.jpg

100% Slav.

Ujku

08-03-2017, 09:29 PM

This. The Serb dude probably hates that his countrymen are considered to be a mix of Vlachs, Turks and gypsies by his country's neighbors, so he spreads misinformation.

Serbs are generally too swarthy considering the fact that they live so far north and not close to sea.

Magnolia

08-03-2017, 10:01 PM

I am not familiar to their faces much so I cant tell them apart and honestly I dont know.it is even possible. As group they look different but on the individual level they probably can pass both.

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 10:33 PM

From Vojvodina (all Girls are Serbian, normally except Nigga girl) https://www.subotica.com/files/news/0/8/8/26088/26088-zfk-vojvodina-4plejof.jpg

From southern Serbia www.ossrb.org/main/vesti/14/pke14.jpg

Сербо Макеридов

08-03-2017, 10:50 PM

From Vojvodina (minus Nigga girl)

https://www.subotica.info/system/files/styles/watermarked/private/content/standard/2013/02/01/38474/ZFK05.jpg?itok=_K86sawm

Serbs from Krajina krajinada.com/SLIKE/Akcije/2014/KND/26.jpg

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 04:03 AM

@ Lavrentis

"Turks" in Serbia were not Anatolians or real Oghuz Turks, they were islamized Serbs (aka Bosniaks).
Many Serbs are not live in Otoman teritory then in Austrian and Venetian teritory.
You are insane if you thing that Greeks arte lighter than Serbs, here in ex YU countries Greeks are synonym for swarty people.

Here is autosomal DNA of Serbs and some other population of the Balkans www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=754.0
Срби - Serbs
БХ муслимани - Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks)
Црногорци - Montenegrins
Македонци - Macedonians (FYROM)
Арнаути КИМ - Albanians from Kosovo
Хрвати - Croats

As you can see Serbs are genitically very close to the rest of south Slavs, especially to the Croats and Bosniaks.
Albanians are very different from Serbs, but they are close too Greeks and Vlachs.
Most dominant admixture as you see among Serbs is North_Euro, and among Albanians is Atlantic_Med, but they also have a lot of Caucasus admixture.
Greeks are similar as Albanians but with a little bit more Med and Caucaus, and a bit less North_Euro admixture.

blondbeast

08-04-2017, 04:04 AM

100% Slav.

Serbs are generally too swarthy considering the fact that they live so far north and not close to sea.

Dear Brown subhumans,

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Jana

08-04-2017, 08:43 AM

Funny how the Serb post pictures from Subotica, city that was in majority inhabited by Croats and Hungarians rather than with Serbs.

Jana

08-04-2017, 08:48 AM

Number 2 is most Croatian looking, while there is no way number 4 is a Croat (he has that Bulgarian-Ukrainian look than some Serbs have).
5 and 8 can be Croats, too.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 08:49 AM

Funny how the Serb post pictures from Subotica, city that was in majority inhabited by Croats and Hungarians rather than with Serbs.

There is no any Croats in Subotica, there is Bunjevci and they are Catholic Serbs.
Bunjevci are only 10% of population of Subotica.

Jana

08-04-2017, 08:51 AM

There is no any Croats in Subotica, there is Bunjevci and they are Catholic Serbs.
Bunjevci are only 10% of population of Subotica.

Bunjevci are Croats just like Montenegrins are Serbs.
I don't care for your rubbish propaganda, Subotica was second biggest Croatian City on beginning of 20th century after Zagreb (close to 50 000 Croats).
Why do you post pictures with people with likely foreign ancestry rather than from Serbia proper ?

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 08:55 AM

Bunjevci are Croats just like Montenegrins are Serbs.
I don't care for your rubbish propaganda, Subotica was second biggest Croatian City on beginning of 20th century after Zagreb (close to 50 000 Croats).
Why do you post pictures with people with likely foreign ancestry rather than from Serbia proper ?

You are stupid, Bunjevci are Catholic Serbs, but that Catholic Serbs are in the minority in Subotica.

Jana

08-04-2017, 08:59 AM

You are stupid, Bunjevci are Catholic Serbs, but that Catholic Serbs are in the minority in Subotica.
No. They are Catholic Vlachs from Herzegovina who became part of Croatian nation in 19th century during national awakening.

Just like you are Orthodox Vlach that developed Serbian identity in that same time period.

If you are Serb, Bunjevci are Croats. And there is no such thing as ''Catholic Serb'', since only ortodox can be a Serb (similar to Jews).

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 09:14 AM

Serbs from western Serbia are lighter on average than Serbs from Vojvodina.

Average Serbian children from western Serbia, from one school from city Užice.

media1.osstarigrad.edu.rs/2011/11/5-13.jpg

media1.osstarigrad.edu.rs/2011/11/SVETO.jpg

Insuperable

08-04-2017, 12:29 PM

No. They are Catholic Vlachs from Herzegovina who became part of Croatian nation in 19th century during national awakening.

Just like you are Orthodox Vlach that developed Serbian identity in that same time period.

If you are Serb, Bunjevci are Croats. And there is no such thing as ''Catholic Serb'', since only ortodox can be a Serb (similar to Jews).

Bunjevci were Catholic, they spoke ikavian and they were called Catholic Vlachs (and they didn't like being called Vlachs) because they lived in hills and were into cattle breeding like Vlachs.

Jana

08-04-2017, 12:58 PM

Bunjevci were Catholic, they spoke ikavian and they were called Catholic Vlachs (and they didn't like being called Vlachs) because they lived in hills and were into cattle breeding like Vlachs.
Yes, it is absolutely true. These Catholic Vlachs have same origins as other Croats as they were called Vlach due to being sheperds.
That being said, Serbs from Croatia are indeed Vlachs too, that does not mean they have Romance origins as they are more Northern European influenced than Serbs from Serbia, but they had no Serbian identity until 19th century and there are plenty of evidences to show that.

Bunjevci developed Croat consciousness about at same time Vlachs from Dalmatia developed Serbian.
If there was no Serbian orthodox church in Croatian lands these Serbs would be part of Croatian nation today.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 01:02 PM

Its impossible to tell croats and serbs apart.
Any idiot knows this.

Jana

08-04-2017, 01:23 PM

Its impossible to tell croats and serbs apart.
Any idiot knows this.

Absolutely possible for Serbs and Croats in most cases.

magyar_lány

08-04-2017, 01:35 PM

1. Serb
2. Croat
3. Serb
4. Serb
5. Croat
6. Serb
7. Serb
8. Croat

I see Croatians and Serbs very similar.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 01:35 PM

Absolutely possible for Serbs and Croats in most cases.

Only if the croats are a cocktail mix of jew,albanian,german otherwise no.

Jana

08-04-2017, 01:39 PM

Only if the croats are a cocktail mix of jew,albanian,german otherwise no.
Hahaha, no. You are not Croat either Serb so don't teach us how we look like.

Serbs have far more pontid influenced individuals than Croats do, for beginning. And we can't look the same since we are genetically not the same. Now quit the trolling.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 01:43 PM

Hahaha, no. You are not Croat either Serb so don't teach us how we look like.

Neither are you

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 01:44 PM

Hahaha, no. You are not Croat either Serb so don't teach us how we look like.

Serbs have far more pontid influenced individuals than Croats do, for beginning. And we can't look the same since we are genetically not the same. Now quit the trolling.

Serbs have more Pontid, Dinarid and Balkan Borreby and Croats have more Alpine, Baltid and Med on average.

But the differences are not huge, because Croats are mostly Catholic Serbs.

Jana

08-04-2017, 01:45 PM

Neither are you
Ofcourse I am, and I cluster with my people genetically but not with Serbs. Jealous much ?

Jana

08-04-2017, 01:47 PM

Serbs have more Pontid, Dinarid and Balkan Borreby and Croats have more Alpine, Baltid and Med on average.
But the differences are not huge, because Croats are mostly Catholic Serbs.

Sadly the Croatian Serbs are genetically closer to Croats than to Serbs from Serbia which means you are Serbified local orthodox Vlachs with same origins as Croats, not Serbs.

Hahaha :)))

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 01:48 PM

Ofcourse I am, and I cluster with my people genetically but not with Serbs. Jealous much ?

Genetics don't really point one's origin, for example RN97 is norwegian-romanian yet genetically he clusters with germans.Is he german?Ofcourse not.So you are a german-jew diluted with albanian, and if you do the median , you cluster near croats.Its not rocket science, its math, do they not teach it in the Western world Croatia is part of?

Jana

08-04-2017, 01:51 PM

Genetics don't really point one's origin, for example RN97 is norwegian-romanian yet genetically he clusters with germans.Is he german?Ofcourse not.So you are a german-jew diluted with albanian, and if you the median , you cluster near croats.Its not rocket science, its math, do they not teach it in the Western world Croatia is part of?

No. Deymark is already becoming boring, rather worry about huge Slavic admixture Romanians have....

''Pure Dacians''

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 01:51 PM

Sadly the Croatian Serbs are genetically closer to Croats than to Serbs from Serbia which means you are Serbified local orthodox Vlachs with same origins as Croats, not Serbs.

Hahaha :)))

Are you suggesting that Vlachs=Croats !? :ranger

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 01:56 PM

No. Deymark is already becoming boring, rather worry about huge Slavic admixture Romanians have....

''Pure Dacians''

You are right, sadly we can't just change our religion and make peace with ourselves that it's no longer there, like croats did.

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:00 PM

Are you suggesting that Vlachs=Croats !? :ranger
Many Croats and other Slavs became Vlachs, so ?
Vlach simply means sheperd.

Vlachs from Croatia including Serbs are genetically Croat, not like Aromanians.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:04 PM

Vlach simply means sheperd.

Italians were also vlachs, were they sheperd too?

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 02:06 PM

Many Croats and other Slavs became Vlachs, so ?
Vlach simply means sheperd.

Vlachs from Croatia including Serbs are genetically Croat, not like Aromanians.

Hrvati svi i svuda! :D

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:07 PM

Italians were also vlachs, were they sheperd too?
That has nothing to do with what we call Vlach here. Wallonia, Wales are also named after Vlachs (Romance speakers) = Germanic word for foreigner.
Except Istro-Romanians, all people in Croatia that were called Vlachs (including Croats and Serbs) are of pred. Slavic origin and native tongue.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 02:07 PM

Many Croats and other Slavs became Vlachs, so ?
Vlach simply means sheperd.

Vlachs from Croatia including Serbs are genetically Croat, not like Aromanians.

This, and it's the same in Greece. This Serb guy can't understand that the word 'Vlach' meant someone who spoke in a Latin language and it had nothing to do with genetics.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:13 PM

That has nothing to do with what we call Vlach here. Wallonia, Wales are also named after Vlachs = Germanic word for foreigner.
Except Istro-Romanians, all people in Croatia that were called Vlachs (including Croats and Serbs) are of pred. Slavic origin and native tongue.

You said that vlach means sheperd, now what are you saying?

Some definitions of vlach in serbo-"""croatian""":
Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian Влах, Vlah man from Wallachia
Serbian (Užice dialect) Вла(х), Старовла(х) medieval nomadic people from Stari Vlah and Mala Vlaška
Croatian Vlah Istro-Romanian
Croatian (Dubrovnik dialect) Vlah man from Herzegovina (pejorative)
Croatian (western dialects) Vlah Italian (pejorative)
Serbian and Croatian влах, vlah medieval nomadic cattle breeder
Croatian (dialects of Istria) vlah new settler (pejorative)
Croatian (dialects of Istria) vlah new settler (pejorative)
Croatian (Dalmatian dialects) vlah (vlaj) plebeian (pejorative)
Croatian (Dalmatian insular dialects) vlah man from the mainland (pejorative)
Croatian (western and northern dialects) vlah (vlaj) Orthodox Christian, usually Serb (pejorative)
Croatian (Podravina dialects) vlah Catholic who is a neoshtokavian speaker (pejorative)

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:14 PM

This, and it's the same in Greece. This Serb guy can't understand that the word 'Vlach' meant someone who spoke in a Latin language and it had nothing to do with genetics.

Wrong.It's someone who spoke in romanic language.Learn the difference.

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:14 PM

This, and it's the same in Greece. This Serb guy can't understand that the word 'Vlach' meant someone who spoke in a Latin language and it had nothing to do with genetics.
Yes, and those in Croatia were not even Latin but Slavic-speaking. It is mostly a social occupation rather than ethnic group (excluding Romanians/Aromanians who are ethnic group).

''Vlachs'' from various European countries are mostly unrelated people.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:18 PM

Yes, and those in Croatia were not even Latin but Slavic-speaking. It is mostly a social occupation rather than ethnic group (excluding Romanians/Aromanians who are ethnic group).

''Vlachs'' from various European countries are mostly unrelated people.

Are they?The moravian vlachs came from Transylvania, the istro-romanians came from upper Transylvania/Maramures in 12th century, aromanians from Banat in 6-8th century,Dalmatian itself is early romanian mixed with venetian and serb.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 02:18 PM

Wrong.It's someone who spoke in romanic language.Learn the difference.

When I said Latin I meant Romance.

Still, a Vlach from Greece has nothing to do with a Vlach from Croatia. They are different people, but both are linguistically Latinized.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:20 PM

When I said Latin I meant Romance.

Still, a Vlach from Greece has nothing to do with a Vlach from Croatia. They are different people, but both are linguistically Latinized.

What do you mean with the bolded part?There was no latinization in Croatia and Greece.
Indeed, they were nomadic people, and they mixed with the natives so much, that they are close to indistinguishable today.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 02:23 PM

You said that vlach means sheperd, now what are you saying?

Some definitions of vlach in serbo-"""croatian""":
Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian Влах, Vlah man from Wallachia
Serbian (Užice dialect) Вла(х), Старовла(х) medieval nomadic people from Stari Vlah and Mala Vlaška
Croatian Vlah Istro-Romanian
Croatian (Dubrovnik dialect) Vlah man from Herzegovina (pejorative)
Croatian (western dialects) Vlah Italian (pejorative)
Serbian and Croatian влах, vlah medieval nomadic cattle breeder
Croatian (dialects of Istria) vlah new settler (pejorative)
Croatian (dialects of Istria) vlah new settler (pejorative)
Croatian (Dalmatian dialects) vlah (vlaj) plebeian (pejorative)
Croatian (Dalmatian insular dialects) vlah man from the mainland (pejorative)
Croatian (western and northern dialects) vlah (vlaj) Orthodox Christian, usually Serb (pejorative)
Croatian (Podravina dialects) vlah Catholic who is a neoshtokavian speaker (pejorative)

In medival Serbia Vlachs were dependent shepards (social category) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sebri

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:25 PM

Are they?The moravian vlachs came from Transylvania, the istro-romanians came from upper Transylvania/Maramures in 12th century, aromanians from Banat in 6-8th century,Dalmatian itself is early romanian mixed with venetian and serb.
Moravian Vlachs are genetically much closer to other Czechs than to Romanians, so ?
Istro-Romanians are heavily mixed as well, but their origin is Romanian indeed.

Dalmatian language was never widely spoken troughout Dalmatia, unlike Chakavian and Stokavian dialects of Croatian.

And Latin was widely used in Croatia until 19century, but not among common people.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 02:28 PM

What do you mean with the bolded part?There was no latinization in Croatia and Greece.
Indeed, they were nomadic people, and they mixed with the natives so much, that they are close to indistinguishable today.

There was Latinization in north-western Greece.

Are you one of those Romanians who think that all Vlachs came from Romania?

The word 'Vlach' is a German word (later used my other peoples) that means 'Romance language speaker'.

The demonyms of Belgium and Wales come from 'Vlach', and Italy is called 'Vlochy' in Polish.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:29 PM

Moravian Vlachs are genetically much closer to other Czechs than to Romanians, so ?
Istro-Romanians are heavily mixed as well, but their origin is Romanian indeed.

Dalmatian language was never widely spoken troughout Dalmatia, unlike Chakavian and Stokavian dialects of Croatian.

And Latin was widely unsed in Croatia until 19century, but not among common people.

And what if they are?They were a very few nomadic sheperds in numbers, and mixed with the locals that outnumbered them tens of times.

I think Dalmatia should receive autonomy.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:30 PM

There was Latinization in north-western Greece.

Are you one of those Romanians who think that all Vlachs came from Romania?

The word 'Vlach' is a German word (later used my other peoples) that means 'Romance language speaker'.

The demonyms of Belgium and Wales come from 'Vlach', and Italy is called 'Vlochy' in Polish.

There was no latinization in Greece, no traces of it.Based on archaeological findings Jirecek concluded that latinization cannot have occured below this line.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jire%C4%8Dek_Line

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:31 PM

I think Dalmatia should receive autonomy.
Dalmatia is cradle of Croatian state.

Pigling

08-04-2017, 02:31 PM

1. Croat

2. Croat

3. Croat

4. Serb

5. Croat

6. Serb

7. Serb

8. Croat

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:32 PM

Dalmatia is cradle of Croatian state.

And?Kosovo too was the cradle of the Serbian state.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 02:36 PM

And what if they are?They were a very few nomadic sheperds in numbers, and mixed with the locals that outnumbered them tens of times.

I think Dalmatia should receive autonomy.

This is a movement for Dalmatian nation forum.net.hr/forums/t/334341.aspx

Dalmatinski Nacionalni Pokret means Dalmatian National Movement, these guys saying that they are not Croats, then they are descendants of Dalmatae, and their ancestors are croatized.

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:37 PM

Bosniensis, you rootless mythoman Gypsy, you don't like First Croatian state was founded in Dalmatia ? How sad.
You are biggest idiot on this forum.

And?Kosovo too was the cradle of the Serbian state.
But Dalmatia remained ethnically Croat :)

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:38 PM

But Dalmatia remaied ethnically Croat :)

This can change very quickly.

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:40 PM

This is a movement for Dalmatian nation forum.net.hr/forums/334341.aspx

Dalmatinski Nacionalni Pokret means Dalmatian National Movement, these guys saying that they are not Croats, then they are descendants of Dalmati, and their ancestors are croatized.

Hahaha, forum link made my some Chetnik mongrels.

Dalmatia is 95% or more ethnically Croat. I am half Dalmatian, and we are biggest nationalists of all Croats, that is why you can't stand us.
Nowdays are huge celebrations how your cowardly asses were expelled from our country, it is a national holiday :D :D :D

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-04-2017, 02:41 PM

Croats and Serbians are practically the same people, kinda like Portugueses and Spaniards. Kinda hard to tell them apart.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 02:43 PM

Hahaha, forum link made my some Chetnik mongrels.

Dalmatia is 95% or more ethnically Croat. I am half Dalmatian, and we are biggest nationalists of all Croats, that is why you can't stand us.
Nowdays are huge celebrations how your cowardly asses were expelled from our country, it is a national holiday :D :D :D

>everyone who does not agree with me is a <insert hated nation> + "mongrel"

You speak like a true balkanite.

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:44 PM

Croats and Serbians are practically the same people, kinda like Portugueses and Spaniards. Kinda hard to tell them apart.
Portugese and Spaniards do not belong to different civilisations (western vs eastern).
Poles and Russians is a much better comparison.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 02:49 PM

Hahaha, forum link made my some Chetnik mongrels.

Dalmatia is 95% or more ethnically Croat. I am half Dalmatian, and we are biggest nationalists of all Croats, that is why you can't stand us.
Nowdays are huge celebrations how your cowardly asses were expelled from our country, it is a national holiday :D :D :D

From which part of Dalmatia is you Dalmatian part?
I'm just cirious. :pop2:

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:50 PM

From which part of Dalmatia is you Dalmatian part?
I'm just cirious. :pop2:
From islands in Central Dalmatia.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-04-2017, 02:51 PM

Portugese and Spaniards do not belong to different civilisations (western vs eastern).
Poles and Russians is a much better comparison.

I was talking about genotype and phenotype, not political spheres though.

Jana

08-04-2017, 02:54 PM

I was talking about genotype and phenotype, not political spheres though.
It is similar, we are neighbours. Not the same tough, and I never denied overlap with our south slavic neighbours.

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas

08-04-2017, 02:58 PM

It is similar, we are neighbours. Not the same tough, and I never denied overlap with our south slavic neighbours.

Aren't you basically the same people though? I mean, Iberians also differ from region to region but those differences are minor and they tend to cluster better with one another than with any other people. Is it not the same case for Croatians and Serbians?

Insuperable

08-04-2017, 02:59 PM

Yes, it is absolutely true. These Catholic Vlachs have same origins as other Croats as they were called Vlach due to being sheperds.
That being said, Serbs from Croatia are indeed Vlachs too, that does not mean they have Romance origins as they are more Northern European influenced than Serbs from Serbia, but they had no Serbian identity until 19th century and there are plenty of evidences to show that.

Bunjevci developed Croat consciousness about at same time Vlachs from Dalmatia developed Serbian.
If there was no Serbian orthodox church in Croatian lands these Serbs would be part of Croatian nation today.

No wonder Teleki von Szék claimed in 1795 that most Croats in Croatia are Catholic and the rest having 'greek' (orthodox) faith because of which they are called Vlachs (another reason why someone would be called Vlach). But it does not have to mean that all Croatian Serbs became Serbs because Serbian migrations are very well recorded.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 03:04 PM

From islands in Central Dalmatia.

Bodulica. :coffee:

Jana

08-04-2017, 03:09 PM

Aren't you basically the same people though? I mean, Iberians also differ from region to region but those differences are minor and they tend to cluster better with one another than with any other people. Is it not the same case for Croatians and Serbians?
Generally Croats and Serbs do not cluster togheder.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 03:11 PM

Generally Croats and Serbs do not cluster togheder.

Serbs with Russians and Croats with Germans, always was and will be.

blondbeast

08-04-2017, 03:12 PM

Jana

08-04-2017, 03:13 PM

Serbs with Russians and Croats with Germans, always was and will be.
Funny. I don't like the Germans.

Jana

08-04-2017, 03:16 PM

They are the same people and cluster together.
No, they are not. Why do you speak what is not founded in Science ?

https://s24.postimg.org/3xxejxkok/pca.jpg

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 03:19 PM

Funny. I don't like the Germans.

This is first time that I heard that some Croatian person don't like the Gernmans.

But you like Hungarians for sure.

blondbeast

08-04-2017, 03:24 PM

No wonder Teleki von Szék claimed in 1795 that most Croats in Croatia are Catholic and the rest having 'greek' (orthodox) faith because of which they are called Vlachs (another reason why someone would be called Vlach). But it does not have to mean that all Croatian Serbs became Serbs because Serbian migrations are very well recorded.
Ok and catholick boyo? You were called Latini by the orthodox people.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:26 PM

Ok and catholick boyo? You were called Latini by the orthodox people.

Retarded gopnik, your comments don't make sense.

Jana

08-04-2017, 03:27 PM

This is first time that I heard that some Croatian person don't like the Gernmans.
But you like Hungarians for sure.

I love Hungary because of my boyfriend and our common past.
But I don't like Khuen Hedervary, he was evil man. Hungarians don't like Ban Jelacic either. But we have much more positive things in common than bad.

Serbs and Russians seem much closer in brotherhood than Croats and Germans are, that simply doesn't exist.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:30 PM

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 03:35 PM

Croats like Germans because Germany helped Croatia a lot to get independence from Serboslavia. It's normal. And Germany is a superpower, of course it will be liked by smaller countries.

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There is no such thing as Serboslavia you idiot.

Fuck of Anatolian-Middle Eastern troll, you do not know anything about history of Serbia and Yugoslavia.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:38 PM

There is no such thing as Serboslavia you idiot.

Fuck of Anatolian-Middle Eastern troll, you do not anything about history of Serbia and Yugoslavia.

Serbs are known as the Turks and gypsies of the Balkans by your neighbors.

And yes, it was Serboslavia after Tito died. Most people would agree with me and not with delusional Serbs who pretend to be the victims of the Yugoslav wars.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 03:43 PM

Serbs are known as the Turks and gypsies of the Balkans by your neighbors.

And yes, it was Serboslavia after Tito died. Most people would agree with me and not with delusional Serbs who pretend to be the victims of the Yugoslav wars.

Here in ex YU countries Greeks are synonym for swarty people.
There is phrase: "Crn kao Grk" - "Swarty as Greek", that is phrase for very swarty people.
Greeks are here in same category as Arabs and Gypsies.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 03:45 PM

Serbs are known as the Turks and gypsies of the Balkans by your neighbors.

And yes, it was Serboslavia after Tito died. Most people would agree with me and not with delusional Serbs who pretend to be the victims of the Yugoslav wars.

Get some fresh air, the ustashe criminal propaganda is fucking with your mind.

http://pictures-of-cats.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cat-vomiting2-250x250.jpeg

Lucia

08-04-2017, 03:45 PM

Jana

08-04-2017, 03:46 PM

Croats like Germans because Germany helped Croatia a lot to get independence from Serboslavia. It's normal. And Germany is a superpower, of course it will be liked by smaller countries.
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It is true, but Germans did much more bad to Croats than good.
Austrians exterminated most powerful Croat noble families who revolted togheder with Hungarians to free more lands from Ottomans, they settled orthodox Vlachs in Croatian borderlands and did not want to unify Dalmatia with Croatia-Slavonia.

Croats fight for loser Germans in both world wars and eneded up on losing side, our soldiers died on eastern front for nothing while they economically exploited us.

Screw Germans and their ''friendships''. Only Bavarians are frendly towards Croats in a true sense of word.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 03:47 PM

Never heard of that phrase.

Well I did.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:47 PM

Here in ex YU countries Greeks are synonym for swarty people.
There is phrase: "Crn kao Grk" - "Swarty as Greek", that is phrase for very swarty people.
Greeks are here in same category as Arabs and Gypsies.

From what I gather, people call Serbs 'cigani'.

You are known as gypsies and Turks. Remember, Serbia was the only place in the Ottoman Empire where Turks could sleep with Serbian wives in the first night of their marriage.

Nothing wrong with being gypsies and Turks, we are all humans.

Lucia

08-04-2017, 03:48 PM

Well I did.

Perhaps it's a Balkan thing, then.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:49 PM

Well I did.

Romanian boy, I have heard a lot of people call Romanians as 'gypsies'. Even Northern and Western Europeans.

But I don't agree with it though. It's because of ignorance.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 03:49 PM

From what I gather, people call Serbs 'cigani'.

You are known as gypsies and Turks. Remember, Serbia was the only place in the Ottoman Empire where Turks could sleep with Serbian wives in the first night of their marriage.

Nothing wrong with being gypsies and Turks, we are all humans.

Romanian boy, I have heard a lot of people call Romanians as 'gypsies'. Even Northern and Western Europeans.

But I don't agree with it though. It's because of ignorance.

Crn kao Grk

https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.273689913.2737/flat,800x800,075,f.jpg

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:51 PM

Get some fresh air, the ustashe criminal propaganda is fucking with your mind.

http://pictures-of-cats.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/cat-vomiting2-250x250.jpeg

The Iron Guard were not better than the Ustashe.

And why the fuck would I be influenced by fascist propaganda? Fuck fascists.

Jana

08-04-2017, 03:51 PM

From what I gather, people call Serbs 'cigani'.

You are known as gypsies and Turks. Remember, Serbia was the only place in the Ottoman Empire where Turks could sleep with Serbian wives in the first night of their marriage.

Nothing wrong with being gypsies and Turks, we are all humans.

Truth be told,Serbs don't have any Gypsy or Turkish admixture, that is nonsense.
They are called such because of their agressive nationalism that claims everything and everyone is Serb and caused so much blodsheed in the region for centuries.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 03:52 PM

The Iron Guard were not better than the Ustashe.

And why the fuck would I be influenced by fascist propaganda? Fuck fascists.

Iron Guard were mighty Orthodox legionnaires not second hand nazi's.

Lavrentis

08-04-2017, 03:54 PM

Iron Guard were mighty Orthodox legionnaires not second hand nazi's.

The Iron Guard where puppets of the Nazis as much as the Ustashe were.

And they were murderers too. Nothing mighty about them.

Antimage

08-04-2017, 03:55 PM

Insuperable

08-04-2017, 03:56 PM

Ok and catholick boyo? You were called Latini by the orthodox people.

Ok and protetant boyo?

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 03:58 PM

The Iron Guard where puppets of the Nazis as much as the Ustashe were.

And they were murderers too. Nothing mighty about them.

Hmm nop?Iron guard was disbanded by Antonescu.Ustashe killed 6 million serbs in concentration camps.What did Iron guard kill?

Lucia

08-04-2017, 03:59 PM

Austrians exterminated most powerful Croat noble families who revolted togheder with Hungarians to free more lands from Ottomans, they settled orthodox Vlachs in Croatian borderlands and did not want to unify Dalmatia with Croatia-Slavonia.

However, the Habsburgs apologized for their sins and, finally, atoned for them in the 1990s when they were the main lobbyists of our recognition. Watch the movie Otto and the Croats, it is often on LaudatoTV.

Сербо Макеридов

08-04-2017, 04:00 PM

Average Serbian children from western Serbia (city Užice).

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Lucia

08-04-2017, 04:01 PM

Hmm nop?Iron guard was disbanded by Antonescu.Ustashe killed 6 million serbs in concentration camps.What did Iron guard kill?

I think the number of Serbs killed was more around 600 million

Jana

08-04-2017, 04:02 PM

Hmm nop?Iron guard was disbanded by Antonescu.Ustashe killed 6 million serbs in concentration camps.What did Iron guard kill?

Hahaha

Since Ustashe killed millionss of Serbs, how come Serbian population is still double bigger than Croatian after much genocides by evil Catholic nazis ?????

Revisionist trash.

Insuperable

08-04-2017, 04:03 PM

1. Serb
2. Croat
7. Croat
8. Serb.

That is what I can definitely say. Not sure about the rest. They have dat vibe.

Lollipop

08-04-2017, 04:04 PM

Hahaha

Since Ustashe killedmillionss f Serbs, how ccome Serbian population is still double bigger than Croatian after much genocides by evil Catholic nazis ?????

Revisionist trash.

That's because you only killed the serbs from Croatia, much like the nazi's killed the jews from axis occupied territories.
6 millions + today Croatia population ~= Serbia's population
Jesus Christ, use your brain for once.