GenePlaza Neolithic and Bronze Age Results (NEW)

[Noman]

GenePlaza has recently launched on a new calculator on their site: Neolithic and Bronze Age Calculator. It costs $5 to compute your results.

Here is mine:

http://i.imgur.com/J5bts7k.png

For reference:

https://www.geneplaza.com/apps/neolithic-caculator/responsive-imgs/steppe-cultures-3_ddxwhh_c_scale,w_1348.jpg

[Lucas]

My father

Neolithic European 27.1%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 23.5%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 17.1%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 13.4%
Neolithic Anatolians 8.7%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 5.5%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 4.8%
Southeast Asian 0.0%
Northeast Asian 0.0%
Eastern Non-African 0.0%
Sub-Saharan 0.0%

[Noman]

My father

Neolithic European 27.1%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 23.5%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 17.1%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 13.4%
Neolithic Anatolians 8.7%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 5.5%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 4.8%
Southeast Asian 0.0%
Northeast Asian 0.0%
Eastern Non-African 0.0%
Sub-Saharan 0.0%

Nice!

Your father and I share somewhat similar admixture of Yamnaya-Poltavka, and I share a little less Andronovo-Srubnaya .

[Dibran]

Calculating mine now. I am doing my livingDNA kit first. the results differed SIGNIFICANTLY from my 23 upload. 23 pinned me as 93 percent east Mediterranean and 5 southwest European. 2 unassigned. Living data had me as 48 east med and 46 southwest euro with 6 unassigned or ambiguous.

[Dick]

I wouldnt bother. This is bullshit made by the same guy that trolled everyone with his ftdna ancient origins admixture.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207074-Indians-!-are-Yamnaya-(FTDNA)

[Voskos]

Geneplaza gav me about 20 percent ambiguous Lol?

[Dick]

Geneplaza gav me about 20 percent ambiguous Lol?

Better than getting 20% androgenous

[Dibran]

Neolithic European 35.2%
Neolithic Anatolians 15.0%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 13.2%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 8.2%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 7.5%
Northeast Asian 7.3%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 5.6%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 4.6%
Sub-Saharan 3.5%

[Dick]

Sub-Saharan 3.5%

Can you rap?

[Dibran]

Just gonna repost and keep it together with my fathers.

Me:

Neolithic European 35.2%
Neolithic Anatolians 15.0%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 13.2%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 8.2%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 7.5%
Northeast Asian 7.3%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 5.6%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 4.6%
Sub-Saharan 3.5%

Father:


Neolithic European 27.2%
Neolithic Anatolians 18.6%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 17.3%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 8.4%
Northeast Asian 8.1%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 7.2%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 6.7%
Western European Hunter Gatherers 4.8%
Sub-Saharan 1.8%

[Dibran]

Can you rap?

3.5 percent of the time, sure. Lmao

[Noman]

I wouldnt bother. This is bullshit made by the same guy that trolled everyone with his ftdna ancient origins admixture.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207074-Indians-!-are-Yamnaya-(FTDNA)

I don't think so. Razib Khan doesn't work for GenePlaza. Does he?

[Lucas]

I don't think so. Razib Khan doesn't work for GenePlaza. Does he?

Of course not. GenePlaza calc is made by Dilawer Khan aka "Kurd" from Anthrogenica. He isn't Indian.

btw


This is the first admixture calculator that sources allele frequencies based on rarer alleles. Mathematical estimates suggest most of the common SNPs to have originated thousands of years ago and therefore to have a wider geographic distribution in contrast to rare variants which are mostly more recent and geographically restricted. The rare and common variants therefore allow us to investigate events at different time scales of demographic histories.

Rarer alleles tend to be associated with gene flows from more specific populations, in contrast to common alleles which tend to be more reflective of admixture events from long ago, and more likely to reflect associations between populations due to common shared roots.

This calculator sources allele frequencies based on various Neolithic and Bronze Age ancient genomes from various parts of Eurasia. These ancient populations are ancestral to both Europeans and Asians.

Since the percentages of NE/SE Asian and SSA with this test reflect your TOTAL admixture from those respective areas, your results with this calculator may not be directly comparable with results from other calculators and commercial ancestry tests, since those don't measure your total admixture from those respective areas, but your admixture from those areas RELATIVE to your own ethnic group, and others from proximate geographical areas who comprise the references for the calculator's components in those tests.

For example, lets assume you are Near Eastern, and you score 2% NE Asian with a calculator that has a W Asian and a SC Asian component at Gedmatch.com, and let's assume that with this test you score 6% NE Asian. How should we interpret this?

For this scenario, the interpretation is as follows:

6% is a better estimation of your total NE Asian admixture, since this estimation is relative to the relatively non NE Asian admixed ancient references used for the other components of this test;
2% with the Gedmatch calculator, is relative to the relatively more NE Asian admixed W Asian and C Asian references, and thus not as good an estimation of your total NE Asian admixture.

A similar analogy exists with the SSA score in this test versus other calculators that use modern references for the calculator's components.

[Noman]

Of course not. GenePlaza calc is made by Dilawer Khan aka "Kurd" from Anthrogenica. He isn't Indian.

btw

Thank you for sharing, but I don't see his name here. :confused:

https://www.geneplaza.com/about-us

[Voskos]

I wouldnt bother. This is bullshit made by the same guy that trolled everyone with his ftdna ancient origins admixture.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207074-Indians-!-are-Yamnaya-(FTDNA)

Its an experimental calc that uses different markers from the usual gedmatch ones. I think it's worth the 5 dollars

[Voskos]

Just gonna repost and keep it%

I got about the same amount of Northeast Asian as your father.Where do you think this comes from?

[Dick]

I got about the same amount of Northeast Asian as your father.Where do you think this comes from?

from Northeast Asia, Einstein.

[Voskos]

from Northeast Asia, Einstein.

How much did you get?

[Dick]

How much did you get?

Get what, mong?

[Voskos]

Get what, mong?

Yes, on the ancient calc.

[Dick]

Yes, on the ancient calc.

Didn't do it

[Voskos]

Didn't do it

Your loss

[Lucas]

Thank you for sharing, but I don't see his name here. :confused:

https://www.geneplaza.com/about-us

https://s2.postimg.org/5c0qo1z61/Bez-nazwy-1.jpg

[Freeroostah]

Neolithic European 24.6%
Neolithic Anatolians 18.9%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 11.6%
Western European HG 10.6%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 8.7%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 8.3%
Northeast Asian 7.1%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 5.8%
Sub-Saharan 3.2%
Eastern Non-African 1.1%
Southeast Asian 0.0%


Any suggestions? I think Im very mixed

[gültekin]

I wouldnt bother. This is bullshit made by the same guy that trolled everyone with his ftdna ancient origins admixture.


https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?207074-Indians-!-are-Yamnaya-(FTDNA)
not razib, but he is another version of him
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10658-A-new-ADMIXTURE-test&p=240315#post240315
now he is trying with passion to find "hidden asia admixture" among kurds cuz he got heart attack after he saw the scythians results.
and as a casualty you see here greeks and albans with siberian admx, that hindu-kush kıro turns them to baptized yoghurts.

[Noman]

https://s2.postimg.org/5c0qo1z61/Bez-nazwy-1.jpg

Aha, thank you! ☺

[Voskos]

Any suggestions? I think Im very mixed

I'm fully Greek and I get similar results.

[Dibran]

Neolithic European 24.6%
Neolithic Anatolians 18.9%
Andronovo-Srubnaya 11.6%
Western European HG 10.6%
Yamnaya-Poltavka 8.7%
Neolithic-Chalcolithic Iran 8.3%
Northeast Asian 7.1%
Neolithic-Bronze Age Levant 5.8%
Sub-Saharan 3.2%
Eastern Non-African 1.1%
Southeast Asian 0.0%


Any suggestions? I think Im very mixed


Very similar to my fathers result. Give or take a few components.

[Dibran]

I got about the same amount of Northeast Asian as your father.Where do you think this comes from?


I am not sure. I think the description mentioned something about Siberia. And that the mixture is found in Kurds? Unless I'm mixing the sections up(at work)

[Voskos]

I am not sure. I think the description mentioned something about Siberia. And that the mixture is found in Kurds? Unless I'm mixing the sections up(at work)

well, at least we're not as mong as the finns are.albeit close enough

[Freeroostah]

Very similar to my fathers result. Give or take a few components.

Thats interesting
In most of the GEDmatch calculators I always plot first in Greece, Albania ,and then Italy. Eurogenes is the only exception cause I plot in Bulgaria but again it is biased towards the East Europe.

[Dibran]

Thats interesting
In most of the GEDmatch calculators I always plot first in Greece, Albania ,and then Italy. Eurogenes is the only exception cause I plot in Bulgaria but again it is biased towards the East Europe.

In most calculators my father gets Greek or Tuscan first and Albanian either second or third. I found my grandmothers surname in greece. This one girl I matched on 23 had the Greek form of my grandmothers surname. I wonder if her family were Arvanites or they could have been Greek converts that integrated with Albanian?

We are in a very isolated pocket of Diber Okshtun. At least for 300 years now. Most of my matches on 23 are Greek and then albanian.

My and my fathers high Neolithic drags us towards Greece and Sardinia. Maybe that explains the shift?

[Voskos]

In most calculators my father gets Greek or Tuscan first and Albanian either second or third. I found my grandmothers surname in greece. This one girl I matched on 23 had the Greek form of my grandmothers surname. I wonder if her family were Arvanites or they could have been Greek converts that integrated with Albanian?

We are in a very isolated pocket of Diber Okshtun. At least for 300 years now. Most of my matches on 23 are Greek and then albanian.

My and my fathers high Neolithic drags us towards Greece and Sardinia. Maybe that explains the shift?

type the name here in Greek script and it will tell you in which region it is most prevalent. this will give you an idea.

http://apps.vrisko.gr/apo-pou-krataei-i-skoufia-sou

[Freeroostah]

In most calculators my father gets Greek or Tuscan first and Albanian either second or third. I found my grandmothers surname in greece. This one girl I matched on 23 had the Greek form of my grandmothers surname. I wonder if her family were Arvanites or they could have been Greek converts that integrated with Albanian?

We are in a very isolated pocket of Diber Okshtun. At least for 300 years now. Most of my matches on 23 are Greek and then Albanian.

My and my fathers high Neolithic drags us towards Greece and Sardinia. Maybe that explains the shift?


Yeah same here regarding the calculator results.
I also get many Albanian matches on 23andme but it doesn't surprise me since Greeks and Albanians are almost identical people regarding the heavily admixed Neolithic DNA.
Bulgarians on the other hand cluster more with Romanians and Serbs.

My mother's family also comes from a mountainous isolated village in Pindus mountains while my paternal village used to have Albanian name (it was changed after 1927)

[The Illyrian Warrior]

Me:

Sub-Saharan 3.5%


http://i68.tinypic.com/kbzzhh.jpg

Joke aside, this calc. seems like a huge bullcrap.

[Dibran]

Yeah same here regarding the calculator results.
I also get many Albanian matches on 23andme but it doesn't surprise me since Greeks and Albanians are almost identical people regarding the heavily admixed Neolithic DNA.
Bulgarians on the other hand cluster more with Romanians and Serbs.

My mother's family also comes from a mountainous isolated village in Pindus mountains while my paternal village used to have Albanian name (it was changed after 1927)

Yea makes sense. More ancestral population links with Neolithic I assume. Idk if I have any connection to it, but there apparently was a Graeco Vlach Arvanite group from Epirus with the surname Koci. Vasil Lupu Coci is descended to them through Nikola Koci who migrated from Epirus to Arbanas Bulgaria and then to Moldova. This could just be coincidental given my family oral history claims we had a different surname. Though that was many hundreds of years ago. So anything could have happened in that gap of time.

I was under the impression Bulgarians cluster more with Greek Romanians and Albanians than they do other south Slavs?

At least it was mentioned on Eupedia if I recall.

[Dibran]

type the name here in Greek script and it will tell you in which region it is most prevalent. this will give you an idea.

http://apps.vrisko.gr/apo-pou-krataei-i-skoufia-sou

Cool. I will post the pictures of the regions when I get home in a couple hours.

[Dick]

not razib, but he is another version of him
http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?10658-A-new-ADMIXTURE-test&p=240315#post240315
now he is trying with passion to find "hidden asia admixture" among kurds cuz he got heart attack after he saw the scythians results.
and as a casualty you see here greeks and albans with siberian admx, that hindu-kush kıro turns them to baptized yoghurts.

So another Gedmatch dude with an agenda? why take gedmatch even seriously then. which calc do you prefer

[Dibran]

type the name here in Greek script and it will tell you in which region it is most prevalent. this will give you an idea.

http://apps.vrisko.gr/apo-pou-krataei-i-skoufia-sou

Surprisingly my last name has the most hits. My moms maternal grandmother too. Is there one to check Albania to see a comparison of the frequency of occurrence? Il post the full stuff shortly.

[gültekin]

So another Gedmatch dude with an agenda? why take gedmatch even seriously then. which calc do you prefer
do you know how much i feeded this chimp razib with taking tests? FF y-12 y37 big-Y mtdna ...i'm gonna booze the shit out of me now. take care bro, good night

[Era]

Yea makes sense. More ancestral population links with Neolithic I assume. Idk if I have any connection to it, but there apparently was a Graeco Vlach Arvanite group from Epirus with the surname Koci. Vasil Lupu Coci is descended to them through Nikola Koci who migrated from Epirus to Arbanas Bulgaria and then to Moldova. This could just be coincidental given my family oral history claims we had a different surname. Though that was many hundreds of years ago. So anything could have happened in that gap of time.

I was under the impression Bulgarians cluster more with Greek Romanians and Albanians than they do other south Slavs?

At least it was mentioned on Eupedia if I recall.

Any relation with this Koch ;)

https://www.google.com/search?q=koch+brothers&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP8dzd6rvVAhWH0YMKHSaAAxsQ_AUICSgA&biw=832&bih=457&dpr=1

[Dick]

do you know how much i feeded this chimp razib with taking tests? FF y-12 y37 big-Y mtdna ...i'm gonna booze the shit out of me now. take care bro, good night

lmao you too

[Voskos]

Surprisingly my last name has the most hits. My moms maternal grandmother too. Is there one to check Albania to see a comparison of the frequency of occurrence? Il post the full stuff shortly.

This one is in English and checks at country level.

http://forebears.io/surnames

[Dibran]

Any relation with this Koch ;)

https://www.google.com/search?q=koch+brothers&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjP8dzd6rvVAhWH0YMKHSaAAxsQ_AUICSgA&biw=832&bih=457&dpr=1

No. Those are German Koch. Means Cook in German or at least the profession born of that name. Its different from Balkan Koci

[Dibran]

This one is in English and checks at country level.

http://forebears.io/surnames

According to Forbears, Albania has the most of each of my surnames.

According to the link you provided for Greece, the surnames are as follows:

Paternal Surname: Koci

66105

Paternal Grandmothers Surname: Stefa/Stafa

66106

Maternal Grandfathers Surname: Shpata

66107

[Voskos]

According to Forbears, Albania has the most of each of my surnames.

According to the link you provided for Greece, the surnames are as follows:

Paternal Surname: Koci

66105

Paternal Grandmothers Surname: Stefa/Stafa

66106

Maternal Grandfathers Surname: Shpata

66107

you must have typed them wrong in Greek

Shpata peaks in Central Greece, Stefa in Corinthia region and Koci in Ioannina.

[Dibran]

you must have typed them wrong in Greek

Shpata peaks in Central Greece, Stefa in Corinthia region and Koci in Ioannina.

Ahhh thats right. forgot to convert to Greek script to check. What is the frequency of each?

[gültekin]

lmao you too
hit me :picard1:
https://s3.postimg.org/w4uz50vfn/dilawer.jpg

[Voskos]

Ahhh thats right. forgot to convert to Greek script to check. What is the frequency of each?

stefas peaks in Isthmia, Corinthia(Peloponnese) 153/10.000
Koci 252/10.000 in Kuklesi , Ioannina
Shpata peaks in Boeotia,(Central Greece) 13/10.000

[Dibran]

stefas peaks in Isthmia, Corinthia(Peloponnese) 153/10.000
Koci 252/10.000 in Kuklesi , Ioannina
Shpata peaks in Boeotia,(Central Greece) 13/10.000

Interesting. My father gets peloponnese in some calculators(his mothers match). I get central Greek in some(my mothers match). Very interesting indeed.

[Voskos]

Apparently there is going to be an update soon. This is what the programmer of the calc posted on another forum:


ANNOUNCEMENT

I will be working on updating this calculator over the next couple of weeks to include some newly acquired ancient samples from W Europe and Siberia. Consequently, it appears that that the NE Asian component based on modern references will be replaced with one based on these ancient Siberian references.

Additionally new components based on W European references will likely be added in recognition of the fact that those have contributed to the population histories of many Europeans. Also the number of markers used for sourcing allele frequencies will likely be increased to improve accuracy and decrease volatility in the results seen by using data from various testing companies. These changes should help diversify the results for European testers.

I am also happy to report that the folks at Gene Plaza are agreeable to my suggestion for automatically updating the results for those who have already used the app at Gene Plaza.

Further details will be announced as necessary.

[The Exiled King]

I have yet to see an East Asian or Southeast Asian results on this. Would be interesting to see since they are using mainly Ancient samples. Especially Japanese, etc.

[Iloko]

Here's mine (I honestly don't find it accurate. I'm pretty sure that I'm a bit more mixed than this lol):

http://i.imgur.com/TyPcOuD.jpg

[Dibran]

Here's mine (I honestly don't find it accurate. I'm pretty sure that I'm a bit more mixed than this lol):

http://i.imgur.com/TyPcOuD.jpg

Proto South East Asian. lol I dont see how. On one calculator(DNA.LAND) I am 95 Balkan and 5 Sardinian. While almost every other Albanian apart from me gets a mix. Idk what it means though.

[TheCaspian]

NE Iran / Caspian Sea
http://i.imgur.com/TMSYYf3.png

[Pahli]

http://i.imgur.com/VbEBm0m.png

Iranian Kurd, West Iran