Trump's new immigration bill favors white migrants.

[Drawing-slim]

Today Trump signed a new law for immgirants coming to US. They have to speak fluent english.
This favors whites IMO and im pretty sure Trump has gotten this idea from An Coulter who has been speaking consistently in favor of european migrants instead of Mexicans South Americans Asians and Africans which according to her have been favored while European immigrants have been very low in numbers.
This law is twisted but cleverly racist imo. Legal immigrants are mostly families with kids which will qualify mostly european migrants since they teach their kids english at early age.
The law is also rude but blunt, an immigrant has to be interviewed proving he/she is smarter than the average american citizen on top of speaking fluent english.

Basically Trump wants to make america white or whiter.

[Egyptian]

More europeans off to U.S = better chances for illegal african immigrants who flee to europe lol

[Sekarotuinen]

Not surprising, Trump is a racist and hates Islam, but I still think he is better than the other option, Clinton.

[Drawing-slim]

More europeans off to U.S = better chances for illegal african immigrants who flee to europe lol

This could actually be also part of a bigger brilliant plan by US. Remember US bacame a world superpower at the expense of europe in WW2.
Now second round is to totally brain-drain europe and flood in african migrants.

[brennus dux gallorum]

Today Trump signed a new law for immgirants coming to US. They have to speak fluent english.
This favors whites IMO and im pretty sure Trump has gotten this idea from An Coulter who has been speaking consistently in favor of european migrants instead of Mexicans South Americans Asians and Africans which according to her have been favored while European immigrants have been very low in numbers.
This law is twisted but cleverly racist imo. Legal immigrants are mostly families with kids which will qualify mostly european migrants since they teach their kids english at early age.
The law is also rude but blunt, an immigrant has to be interviewed proving he/she is smarter than the average american citizen on top of speaking fluent english.

Basically Trump wants to make america white or whiter.

But that's already impossible, as white birth rates are already to low to produce new immigrants, plus, some European ecnomies are more attractive for immigrants than American right now

[Egyptian]

This could actually be also part of a bigger brilliant plan by US. Remember US bacame a world superpower at the expense of europe in WW2.
Now second round is to totally brain-drain europe and flood in african migrants.

Yeah but technically and I don't wanna lie , it's a good thing for MENA and Africans .. let trump bring all whites or only the whites to U.S , whom are we kidding? MENA and Africans have no place there , they're like a second class citizens , probably third class..Imagine if all the brilliant brains of MENA people returned to their countries and focused to work here it will be better for us , the money we spend to buy american products should be spent here

[Drawing-slim]

But that's already impossible, as white birth rates are already to low to produce new immigrants, plus, some European ecnomies are more attractive for immigrants than American right now

Its the last attempt for white America before whites become minority i guess, which has already happened in some cities.
Esstern and western europeans still would love to move to America. Its the only place these people can make it big. Its the only place anyone can hit it big. America is appealing..

[Loki]

Today Trump signed a new law for immgirants coming to US. They have to speak fluent english.
This favors whites IMO and im pretty sure Trump has gotten this idea from An Coulter who has been speaking consistently in favor of european migrants instead of Mexicans South Americans Asians and Africans which according to her have been favored while European immigrants have been very low in numbers.
This law is twisted but cleverly racist imo. Legal immigrants are mostly families with kids which will qualify mostly european migrants since they teach their kids english at early age.
The law is also rude but blunt, an immigrant has to be interviewed proving he/she is smarter than the average american citizen on top of speaking fluent english.

Basically Trump wants to make america white or whiter.

That's all good and well for America, but not for Europe, sadly. We need all the Europeans we can get in Europe.

[Sekarotuinen]

That's all good and well for America, but not for Europe, sadly. We need all the Europeans we can get in Europe.If you guys learned to how have children again, you wouldnt have this issue.

[Oneeye]

Our immigration policy used to favor Europeans... anyways, ehat is wrong with allowing more from compatible cultures?

[Loki]

Its the last attempt for white America before whites become minority i guess, which has already happened in some cities.
Esstern and western europeans still would love to move to America. Its the only place these people can make it big. Its the only place anyone can hit it big. America is appealing..

White South Africans would do well in America.

[Loki]

If you guys learned to how have children again, you wouldnt have this issue.

Yes. But that is a problem of white people everywhere, I think in America too. Perhaps not in places like Utah.

[Jehan]

Noot sure it will favored white immigration to require a good english.

Nigerians and indians might be better in english than many europeas ethnicitys.

[Loki]

Noot sure it will favored white immigration to require a good english.

Nigerians and indians might be better in english than many europeas ethnicitys.

Good point.

[Ülev]

The American Hotels company has put up job offers. Responded three people: German, French and Indian. Commission wants to check the knowledge of English language of the applicants and told them to put in a sentence containing the words green, pink and yellow.

German has written:
- When I wake up I see yellow sun, green grass and I think to myself that will be wonderful, pink day.

Frenchman:
- When I wake up I put my green pants, yellow socks and pink shirt.

"Fractal" wrote:

- When I come back home I hear the telephone green green so I pink up the phone and say: yellow?

[Drawing-slim]

Our immigration policy used to favor Europeans... anyways, ehat is wrong with allowing more from compatible cultures?

No. Not true in the last 30 years european immigrants were rejected greencards more than any other race in the world coming in to US.

[Drawing-slim]

White South Africans would do well in America.bro, not a joke. You're in right now,lol

[N1019]

Let's make America whiter again, with the White America Policy

Thumbs up from me

[Smitty]

That's all good and well for America, but not for Europe, sadly. We need all the Europeans we can get in Europe.

I want a complete break from immigration personally. We need some time off, quite frankly. That would help the both of us, although I don't think Europeans are in any hurry to come here, to listen to the folks on this site.

[Drawing-slim]

Let's make America whiter again, with the White America Policy

Thumbs up from me

Trump is actually proving to have an agenda, a ideology. Not just some lost celebrity attention whoring. Another words trump is going big or go home agenda is making people's heads spin.

[catgeorge]

American-borns migrating to other countries

Canada (308,000), the United Kingdom (212,000), Puerto Rico (200,000), Germany (144,000), Australia (89,000), Japan (56,000), Israel (55,000), South Korea (53,000), France (49,000), Italy (45,000), Spain (38,000), Belgium (31,000), Netherlands (27,000), Denmark (21,000), Greece (18,000), Austria (12,000), Norway (11,000) and Switzerland (7,000)

Incoming Immigrants

India (1.9 million), Filipino (1.8 million), Chinese (1.7 million), Africa (1.7 million) Vietnamese (1.2 million), Central and South America (5 million), Carribeans (1 million)

[Drawing-slim]

Now all you have to do if you like coming to america just go aply and put your 23andme results on your application.
I recommend 23andme since that scores much higher european and easily gets you in.
When you get rich dont forget me,lol

[Balmung]

Noot sure it will favored white immigration to require a good english.

Nigerians and indians might be better in english than many europeas ethnicitys.

Not to mention Europeans are twice as liberal as we are. Our political climate could be directly influenced, it has been before by the mass migrations of German and Irish immigrants. We're already dealing with our own batshit leftist.

[Dandelion]

More europeans off to U.S = better chances for illegal african immigrants who flee to europe lol

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/merkel-kiss.jpg

[Drawing-slim]

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/merkel-kiss.jpg

We dont know for sure if merkel plaid the best or the worst political game by taking in 1million refugees. Germany looked like the healthiest countries i have ever seen when i visitied.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Doesn't favor white migrants if they can't speak english.
It only favors british people and canadians.

[Wanderer]

I love the proposal! Finally, Trump is focusing his energy on something I can support, rather than trying to strip millions of Americans of health insurance. Slash immigration numbers in general and favor white immigrants, or at least immigrants more assimilable to white America. Music to my ears.

[Oneeye]

No. Not true in the last 30 years european immigrants were rejected greencards more than any other race in the world coming in to US.

I'm talking about before the 1965 immigration act that changed the demographics.

[MissMischief]

Hmm... an immigration system that actually benefits the host nation. Imagine that! God forbid you import people with socio-economic mobility interested in integrating into American society :laugh:

Canada and Australia already have a merit-based immigration system and it seems to work fine. Mass low-skilled migration at a time when low-skilled jobs are increasingly automating and disappearing is completely irresponsible. A skill-based system is a worthy long-term investment. Critics will call it xenophobic, but I think this law is based in changing economic realities.

Anyway, it's pretty unlikely the bill will pass.

[Fractal]

Europeans should stay in Europe. Your continent needs you, stop running away from your refugees.

[Lightshade25]

The current family-based immigration system is a fucking joke anyways.

[Mortimer]

Today Trump signed a new law for immgirants coming to US. They have to speak fluent english.
This favors whites IMO and im pretty sure Trump has gotten this idea from An Coulter who has been speaking consistently in favor of european migrants instead of Mexicans South Americans Asians and Africans which according to her have been favored while European immigrants have been very low in numbers.
This law is twisted but cleverly racist imo. Legal immigrants are mostly families with kids which will qualify mostly european migrants since they teach their kids english at early age.
The law is also rude but blunt, an immigrant has to be interviewed proving he/she is smarter than the average american citizen on top of speaking fluent english.

Basically Trump wants to make america white or whiter.

What are the ways to become a immigrant to the United States as far as I know

There is immigration through obtaining a qualified job (on the usa.gov site jobs are listed which could qualify you)
sponsored by a family member
green card lottery

[Drawing-slim]

What are the ways to become a immigrant to the United States as far as I know

There is immigration through obtaining a qualified job (on the usa.gov site jobs are listed which could qualify you)
sponsored by a family member
green card lottery
With this new proposal you have to prove you can survive in the US without collecting welfare. Show money in the bank that proves you can get by for a while on your own. You speak english and german your dna is european dominant, save some money and jump on the plane. Its as easy is that.

[Fractal]

What are the ways to become a immigrant to the United States as far as I know

There is immigration through obtaining a qualified job (on the usa.gov site jobs are listed which could qualify you)
sponsored by a family member
green card lottery

He's an Albanian. They aren't known to be a very productive immigrant group, nor are any other Balkanoids. Although not nearly seen as undesirable as mexicans or africans.

[Drawing-slim]

He's an Albanian. They aren't known to be a very productive immigrant group, nor are any other Balkanoids. Although not nearly seen as undesirable as mexicans or africans.
Albanians are very productive. And most importantly very desirable in US, let the hate ripp through you. Trump personally has worked with albanians in new york for 40 years.

[Heather Duval]

dont care
usa will be explode soon
wait and see

[Dandelion]

dont care
usa will be explode soon
wait and see

Wait and see. (https://youtu.be/NDXEva49oIE?t=9s)

[Kamal900]

America without the people that first built the country would eventually lead to anarchy, corruption and chaos. If anything, Trump should talk more about the demographic problems between Whites and non-Whites in the country. He should bring back the old traditional White/European culture of the west, and bringing back the family unity and etc to stabilize the birth rates of European Americans.

[Fractal]

America without the people that first built the country would eventually lead to anarchy, corruption and chaos. If anything, Trump should talk more about the demographic problems between Whites and non-Whites in the country. He should bring back the old traditional White/European culture of the west, and bringing back the family unity and etc to stabilize the birth rates of European Americans.

So how does importing Europeans help with this? They have no connection with America any more than Mexicans, Orientals or Blacks do. (and yes Indians too to make you satisfied)

[Kamal900]

So how does importing Europeans help with this? They have no connection with America any more than Mexicans, Orientals or Blacks do. (and yes Indians too to make you satisfied)

Because the ones that built Americans were and always had been Whites or Europeans, especially the ones from Northern and Western Europe. They can import Europeans who are skilled and speak English for them to assimilate to the general White populace of the country, and keeping the western standards when it comes to innovation, education and etc to first world status than plummeting it to a 3rd world country. Now, I'm not saying that Asian Americans in general(South, South-East and East Asians) aren't smart and contributive which again they are, but the biggest demographic problems that the country is facing is between Whites and non-Whites who aren't very contributive and intelligent as them and Asians like Blacks and Hispanics who account for more than 85% of all the crimes that are committed in the country. I mean, I have no issues with immigration if it's done right like here where the majority of the expats here are well educated and behaved, but it's obvious that not all peoples find it attractive due on the fact that we have no social programs here nor is it liberal like in many western countries, especially countries like Germany, Sweden and so on.

[Heather Duval]

America without the people that first built the country would eventually lead to anarchy, corruption and chaos. If anything, Trump should talk more about the demographic problems between Whites and non-Whites in the country. He should bring back the old traditional White/European culture of the west, and bringing back the family unity and etc to stabilize the birth rates of European Americans.

America belongs to indigenous. Why you care so much about european "culture"? Youre non white.

[Kamal900]

America belongs to indigenous. Why you care so much about european "culture"? Youre non white.

Simply because I believe that all peoples including Whites have the right to preserve their culture and heritage from being snuffed out, that's all.

[Heather Duval]

Simply because I believe that all peoples including Whites have the right to preserve their culture and heritage from being snuffed out, that's all.

you just assumed last page you arent smart when you said "non whites arent smart as europeans"
so im not surprised at all about you
1 america dont belongs to europeans but indians
2 you can preserve your culture and this has nothing to do with your claims, you just tried to say whites should rule america
3 if snything trump would hate you even your trying to defend whites many times

[Drawing-slim]

This is the cleverest bill proposed by team trump so far. This is one that will get on board all republicans and many democrats, consider it done.

[Kamal900]

you just assumed last page you arent smart when you said "non whites arent smart as europeans"
so im not surprised at all about you
1 america dont belongs to europeans but indians
2 you can preserve your culture and this has nothing to do with your claims, you just tried to say whites should rule america
3 if snything trump would hate you even your trying to defend whites many times

Trump isn't what the Jewish run media is claiming about him. Like I said, I don't care if Whites like me or not, and I'm not living in any White western country for me to care about that. What was I saying is that Whites or Europeans should have the right to preserve their heritage and their race without someone pestering them on how they should run their country and so on. Japan, Korea, China, India and so on are fairly homogeneous countries, and yet, you don't see anyone forcing them to open their borders to the outside world, do you? Yes, there are scientific hard evidences regarding the racial differences between Europeans and non-Europeans when it comes to genetics, culture, anatomy and intelligence.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

This is whats going to happen. High skilled immigrants who speak english, richer than native born americans come in. Buy poor american properties or run their buiseness in their areas. Rich foreigner looks down on US american. Another class clash erupts.
Example, fractals if he was a billionaire like his patel uncle without the foaming of the mouth.
Native born americans will be stuck with the low end jobs.

[Heather Duval]

Trump isn't what the Jewish run media is claiming about him. Like I said, I don't care if Whites like me or not, and I'm not living in any White western country for me to care about that. What was I saying is that Whites or Europeans should have the right to preserve their heritage and their race without someone pestering them on how they should run their country and so on. Japan, Korea, China, India and so on are fairly homogeneous countries, and yet, you don't see anyone forcing them to open their borders to the outside world, do you? Yes, there are scientific hard evidences regarding the racial differences between Europeans and non-Europeans when it comes to genetics, culture, anatomy and intelligence.

If they want to preserve their pseudo culture than go back to Europe because America is the land of many races and they stole from natives. Sciences from 1200? I pass. Current sciences dont believe in such thing, neither the ecxistence of race
You are not updated
Its so sad you think you are inferior to whites, looks like this forum didint helped you since you believe whites are smarter, it makes you dumber than Paris hilton according to what racists made you think :lol:

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

And yea, some of the supporters are doing this for a racial agenda. A guy supporting it literally said that part of the concern was about people in your gene pool. But its going to create another class clash. There always will be.

[Kamal900]

If they want to preserve their pseudo cukture than go back to Europe because America is the land of many races and they stole from natives. Sciences from 1200? I pass. Its so sad you think you are inferior to whites, looks like this forum didint helped you since you believe whites are smarter, it makes you dumber than Paris hilton according to what racists made you think :lol:

I never think of myself as inferior to anyone. However, that doesn't mean that there is no evidence on the fact that Europeans and East Asians have the highest IQ in the world in contrast to other peoples of the world. I want people to look at me based on my credentials than my race or ethnicity which what affirmative actions does the exact opposite. If anything what is should teach us is that bringing people over to countries that they couldn't compete with those who are more intelligent would create problems in the country, and affirmative action is just making things more worse than what people think. Again, what happened in the past stays in the past, and Whites should have the right to control their own country that their ancestors have created than allowing other peoples decide that for them which many of them do have hostilities to the overall White populace of America.

[Smitty]

This is the cleverest bill proposed by team trump so far. This is one that will get on board all republicans and many democrats, consider it done.

This will never fly. The resistance to even the most moderate changes to immigration policy is immense. We've reached a point where the world's alleged right to move here is almost a given. Even conservatives don't question immigration as inherently good and necessary.

[Heather Duval]

I never think of myself as inferior to anyone. However, that doesn't mean that there is no evidence on the fact that Europeans and East Asians have the highest IQ in the world in contrast to other peoples of the world. I want people to look at me based on my credentials than my race or ethnicity which what affirmative actions does the exact opposite. If anything what is should teach us is that bringing people over to countries that they couldn't compete with those who are more intelligent would create problems in the country, and affirmative action is just making things more worse than what people think. Again, what happened in the past stays in the past, and Whites should have the right to control their own country that their ancestors have created than allowing other peoples decide that for them which many of them do have hostilities to the overall White populace of America.

Currently is no non-circumstantial evidence that these differences in test scores have a genetic component, although some researchers believe that the existing circumstantial evidence makes it plausible that hard evidence for a genetic component will eventually appear.
America wasnt created by whites but invaded. Youre thoughts just proof how disgusting you are, you clearly sucks white people balls.

[Heather Duval]

You fucking retarded
latinos, black people etc has the same right in America because theres no evidence US belongs to white, only by your OWD mind. Funny an Arab fighting a lot for white people rights in a country he will never been.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I never think of myself as inferior to anyone. However, that doesn't mean that there is no evidence on the fact that Europeans and East Asians have the highest IQ in the world in contrast to other peoples of the world. I want people to look at me based on my credentials than my race or ethnicity which what affirmative actions does the exact opposite. If anything what is should teach us is that bringing people over to countries that they couldn't compete with those who are more intelligent would create problems in the country, and affirmative action is just making things more worse than what people think. Again, what happened in the past stays in the past, and Whites should have the right to control their own country that their ancestors have created than allowing other peoples decide that for them which many of them do have hostilities to the overall White populace of America.


Thats fine except a large portion of the people on the left are white.
Work on the UAE, you can be killed for telling them your atheists. Or you can runaway from it if you want.
East asians can have a high IQ. They still can't spreak english fluently from asia very well. Many europeans can't speak english fluently. And many middle easterners neither. I've listened to some of you people on vocaroo. You people don't speak fluent english.
The same argument can be made for someone who is multi lingual is better than someone who only speaks one language.

[Heather Duval]

Paris Hilton must be smart as fuck cause she is white. Same for Kardashians.

[Kamal900]

Thats fine except a large portion of the people on the left are white.
Work on the UAE, you can be killed for telling them your atheists. Or you can runaway from it if you want.
East asians can have a high IQ. They still can't spreak english fluently from asia very well. Many europeans can't speak english fluently. And many middle easterners neither. I've listened to some of you people on vocaroo. You people don't speak fluent english.
The same argument can be made for someone who is multi lingual is better than someone who only speaks one language.

No, apostasy here isn't punishable by death like Saudi Arabia, and yes, I know the UAE isn't my country since the people that are running the country are native Emirati Arabs, and we're living under their rules and laws as expats like other foreigners here. Being fluent in a language doesn't negate on what I have said regarding the levels of contributions, intelligence and even crimes that are committed in the country that differs between racial and ethnic groups in the country.

[Kamal900]

You fucking retarded
latinos, black people etc has the same right in America because theres no evidence US belongs to white, only by your OWD mind. Funny an Arab fighting a lot for white people rights in a country he will never been.

Never claimed that Blacks should be kicked out, but at the same time, that doesn't mean they're the same as Whites regarding intelligence and so on. Yes, the US was founded by Whites for Whites, nothing else.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

No, apostasy here isn't punishable by death like Saudi Arabia, and yes, I know the UAE isn't my country since the people that are running the country are native Emirati Arabs, and we're living under their rules and laws as expats like other foreigners here. Being fluent in a language doesn't negate on what I have said regarding the levels of contributions, intelligence and even crimes that are committed in the country that differs between racial and ethnic groups in the country.

Crime is to be checked via background check. Not just give you a pass because of your race or ethnicity. Thats just plain stupid. Illegals aren't background checked, obviously because they were never screened through any process.
And its about credentials not how hu white your skin is. Being hu white skinned is not a skill.

[Kamal900]

Crime is to be checked via background check. Not just give you a pass because of your race or ethnicity. Thats just plain stupid. Illegals aren't background checked, obviously because they were never screened through any process.
And its about credentials not how hu white your skin is. Being hu white skinned is not a skill.

Yes, that's what I was saying. Basing on credentials like soft and hard skills and so on is not the same as basing someone's skin color or race as what the affirmative action does in America by promoting Blacks and others above Whites based on their race, not their credentials. Again, the crime statistics in the country clearly shows that African Americans commit far higher crime in America than the European Americans despite them being only 13% of the population while Whites are more than 60%.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Yes, that's what I was saying. Basing on credentials like soft and hard skills and so on is not the same as basing someone's skin color or race as what the affirmative action does in America by promoting Blacks and others above Whites based on their race, not their credentials. Again, the crime statistics in the country clearly shows that African Americans commit far higher crime in America than the European Americans despite them being only 13% of the population while Whites are more than 60%.

You are dwelling off to collectivists group mentality and identity politics.
Inividuals get background checked. 500 random other people don't fill out and walk through my background check with me.
If a guy has a criminal record you can hold him to it. But you cant push him away if hes black but has no criminal record. Otherwise thats just descrimination. Its not based on a merit neither.

[Heather Duval]

Never claimed that Blacks should be kicked out, but at the same time, that doesn't mean they're the same as Whites regarding intelligence and so on. Yes, the US was founded by Whites for Whites, nothing else.

Currently theres no science evidence about IQ = genetic factors
Im glad youre on TA, because in the real world people would laugh at your face for bringing pseudo science from 1500
Cause everyone who studies science in university knows you are saying bullshit, dont ever try to debate with an student for your good. US wasnt created for whites, since the invasors never wanted to send black people straight to Africa. You are clearly racist and yourconstant OWD is disgusting as fuck. Youre not white. Wanting whites to rule US again is wanting to oppres non whites and their present culture in America, sorry but theres nothing ok about trying to dominate ethnicities
America is not Europe, America is for all since ever

[Fractal]

You fucking retarded
latinos, black people etc has the same right in America because theres no evidence US belongs to white, only by your OWD mind. Funny an Arab fighting a lot for white people rights in a country he will never been.

Well Latinos and Blacks do have the highest violent crime rates, followed by Whites. But I agree with you he kisses up to Whites and he's an Arab on top of it.

[Heather Duval]

Well Latinos and Blacks do have the highest violent crime rates, followed by Whites. But I agree with you he kisses up to Whites and he's an Arab on top of it.

Everything he says here makes me laugh, wtf he knows about science? He post pseudo nazis science. I will take him seriously the day he kick off his fat ass from the computer and go study science in an university. Everyone who studies it would laugh as fuck if they visit this forum. Science not deloved :lol:

[Smitty]

Currently theres no science evidence about IQ = genetic factors
Im glad youre on TA, because in the real world people would laugh at your face for bringing pseudo science from 1500
Cause everyone who studies science in university knows you are saying bullshit, dont ever try to debate with an student for your good. US wasnt created for whites, since the invasors never wanted to send black people straight to Africa. You are clearly racist and yourconstant OWD is disgusting as fuck. Youre not white. Wanting whites to rule US again is wanting to oppres non whites and their present culture in America, sorry but theres nothing ok about trying to dominate ethnicities
America is not Europe, America is for all since ever

Who is a Brazilian to say who America is for?

[Fractal]

Who is a Brazilian to say who America is for?

Who is a Palestinian to say who is America for?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Middle easterners are white. But he is kissing up to the idea that racists europeans will accept him or his non white friends. They might not.

[Smitty]

Who is a Palestinian to say who is America for?

He's not one to say, but at least, he's right.

[RMuller]

The rapidly changing racial demographics of California and the Southwestern states will not change with this new proposed immigration bill.

I think politics is also involved. Once Texas turns blue in 15 years or so,and Arizona in 7 years the Democrats will control the 270 electoral college to win every presidency after these 2 red states fall to the Democrats.

[Lemon Kush]

There should also be a 6ft height requirement for men, that would keep out many darkies

[Heather Duval]

Who is a Brazilian to say who America is for?

Great argument for a person like you but there are many Brazilians in US, so yeah, America is for everyone. I would ask you go back to Europe but again I remember you are a mutt, you dont have an ethnicity but many
So you belong to US
The land of everyone :lol:

[Heather Duval]

He's not one to say, but at least, he's right.

no he is not right
he is just saying what a trash racist like you wants to hear

[Smitty]

Great argument for a person like you but there are many Brazilians in US, so yeah, America is for everyone. I would ask you go back to Europe but again I remember you are a mutt, you dont have an ethnicity but many
So you belong to US
The land of everyone :lol:

I belong to the US. You Brazilians, not so much.

[Heather Duval]

I belong to the US. You Brazilians, not so much.

Everyone born in US belongs to America. Unless youre an immigrant. Fucking white trash person.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

I belong to the US. You Brazilians, not so much.

What merit is that based on? Or is that an entitlement?

[Smitty]

Fucking white trash person.

That tacitly racist epithet you anti-racists throw around so much. Gets me every time. :lol:

[Heather Duval]

That tacitly racist epithet you anti-racists throw around so much. Gets me every time. :lol:

White tears.

[Heather Duval]

Im glad youll die one day and the world will be free of a trash person with a trash personality like you
im even more glad that you wont have descents no woman would date a fucking nigga like u

[Heather Duval]

Middle easterners are white. But he is kissing up to the idea that racists europeans will accept him or his non white friends. They might not.

That quote about him kissing iberians are iconic as fuck

[Egyptian]

https://refugeeresettlementwatch.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/merkel-kiss.jpg

That's the syrian flag not the Egyptian , notice the stars not the eagle.

[RN97]

Thats fine except a large portion of the people on the left are white.
Work on the UAE, you can be killed for telling them your atheists. Or you can runaway from it if you want.
East asians can have a high IQ. They still can't spreak english fluently from asia very well. Many europeans can't speak english fluently. And many middle easterners neither. I've listened to some of you people on vocaroo. You people don't speak fluent english.
The same argument can be made for someone who is multi lingual is better than someone who only speaks one language.

All NW Europeans (except the French and perhaps Belgians) speak fluent English. Even with our Norenglish as we call it. We're able to comprehend English probably better than the average drooling American and we can speak it well enough for others to understand. Eastern Europeans can speak it as well. My granny and mom can speak Russian better than English, yet Romanians that are under 25 can basically all speak English fluently. This is true for basically all Europeans (exceptions being probably French, Iberians, Italians, some balkanites etc.) However is that proof that this will make America "whiter"? Hell no! You see there are 309,865,536 English speakers just in India, Pakistan, the Phillipines and Nigeria put together. English speakers in the EU number in total at 256,876,220. Also what makes people think that an Indian has less incentive to migrate than a German? Obviously the German has a lot less. Basically if this passes the USA will get less Juan's, but more Fractal's, it makes little to no difference from the way I see it.

[Oneeye]

This is whats going to happen. High skilled immigrants who speak english, richer than native born americans come in. Buy poor american properties or run their buiseness in their areas. Rich foreigner looks down on US american. Another class clash erupts.
Example, fractals if he was a billionaire like his patel uncle without the foaming of the mouth.
Native born americans will be stuck with the low end jobs.

1. Immigration is being cut in total numbers and believe it: brilliant immigrants have been an engine in scientific adcancement in the US for many years now.

2. You would rather have welfare seeking immigrants than business owners?


3. "Being stuck with a low end job"... man, that isn't very sound economics. If new businesses are being invested in, then more jobs are available. That doesn't limit, but increases the supply of jobs available.

[Fractal]

All NW Europeans (except the French and perhaps Belgians) speak fluent English. Even with our Norenglish as we call it. We're able to comprehend English probably better than the average drooling American and we can speak it well enough for others to understand. Eastern Europeans can speak it as well. My granny and mom can speak Russian better than English, yet Romanians that are under 25 can basically all speak English fluently. This is true for basically all Europeans (exceptions being probably French, Iberians, Italians, some balkanites etc.) However is that proof that this will make America "whiter"? Hell no! You see there are 309,865,536 English speakers just in India, Pakistan, the Phillipines and Nigeria put together. English speakers in the EU number in total at 256,876,220. Also what makes people think that an Indian has less incentive to migrate than a German? Obviously the German has a lot less. Basically if this passes the USA will get less Juan's, but more Fractal's, it makes little to no difference from the way I see it.

There is a huge difference between Fractals immigrating to the USA and Juans. lol.

[RN97]

There is a huge difference between Fractals immigrating to the USA and Juans. lol.

I know this will get you all good and butthurt, but in general Mexico is a lot better than India and so are Mexicans. They simply are people with a average IQ that's a lot higher. They have clean water, decent sanitation, higher living standards and also.... uhm..... toilets. The life expectancy in Mexico is 75.65 whilst only 68.13 in India. However the US receives Mexico's trash basically. Gang members, poor folks, welfare moochers and generally the segment of Mexico that has the lowest IQ's. Indian migrants are different. The US receives Indians that have at least (if not higher) IQ's than the average white American. Migrating from India to Mexico is not as easy as crossing a poorly defended large border. You actually need to travel a large distance, you need to usually be able to speak English and it's a heck of a lot easier when you have an education and/ or money. Thereby ensuring that the Indian migrants to the US are among the highest IQ segments of India and even though Indians have a low IQ on average, a very large population ensures that there are plenty of Indians that have a average and/ or high IQ compared to white Americans on average. To summarize the difference is the segments of population the US receives from Mexico (low quality) and India (high quality), but in reality Indians would probably be worse.

[Fractal]

I know this will get you all good and butthurt, but in general Mexico is a lot better than India and so are Mexicans. They simply are people with a average IQ that's a lot higher. They have clean water, decent sanitation, higher living standards and also.... uhm..... toilets. The life expectancy in Mexico is 75.65 whilst only 68.13 in India. However the US receives Mexico's trash basically. Gang members, poor folks, welfare moochers and generally the segment of Mexico that has the lowest IQ's. Indian migrants are different. The US receives Indians that have at least (if not higher) IQ's than the average white American. Migrating from India to Mexico is not as easy as crossing a poorly defended large border. You actually need to travel a large distance, you need to usually be able to speak English and it's a heck of a lot easier when you have an education and/ or money. Thereby ensuring that the Indian migrants to the US are among the highest IQ segments of India and even though Indians have a low IQ on average, a very large population ensures that there are plenty of Indians that have a average and/ or high IQ compared to white Americans on average. To summarize the difference is the segments of population the US receives from Mexico (low quality) and India (high quality), but in reality Indians would probably be worse.

Are you saying if Mexico's upper classes were moving to the USA they'd be as successful and wealthy as Indo-Americans are? Would they compete with us in the IT industry, the medical profession, and be our competitors in hospitality and real estate development? i.e.- buying gas stations, hotels, 7-11s, etc? You might have a point here but its hard for me to fathom.

Iberian-Americans (White Hispanic Americans descended from Spaniards, Portuguese,Galicians,Cubans etc) while well assimilated into White America are not above Indians here in my estimation. You'll find more Shah surnames in an affluent California zip code than Gonzales or Rodriguez, although exceptions do exist of course

(90210 might be an exception since it's all hollywood celebrities and alot of them are White Hispanics and Latinos)

*Also, I'm using Iberian-Americans as a proxy since I'm guessing upper class Mexicans in Mexico are mostly Spanish descended.

[RN97]

Are you saying if Mexico's upper classes were moving to the USA they'd be as successful and wealthy as Indo-Americans are? Would they compete with us in the IT industry, the medical profession, and be our competitors in hospitality and real estate development? i.e.- buying gas stations, hotels, 7-11s, etc? You might have a point here but its hard for me to fathom.

Iberian-Americans (White Hispanic Americans descended from Spaniards, Portuguese,Galicians,Cubans etc) while well assimilated into White America are not above Indians here in my estimation. You'll find more Shah surnames in an affluent California zip code than Gonzales or Rodriguez, although exceptions do exist of course

(90210 might be an exception since it's all hollywood celebrities and alot of them are White Hispanics and Latinos)

*Also, I'm using Iberian-Americans as a proxy since I'm guessing upper class Mexicans in Mexico are mostly Spanish descended.

Bro, the upper class in Mexico remains mostly in Mexico. Even the white hispanics are mostly refugees from communism or just economic migrants (middle class). Yes if the top 10% migrated from Mexico to the US like the top 10% of India does the Mexicans would be a lot better. Because they'd be of higher quality at least IQ wise. More doctors, economists, business men, engineers etc.

[EL_BARBARO]

More europeans off to U.S = better chances for illegal african immigrants who flee to europe lol


Or still better chances to get boiled in their own toxic sauce :)

[EL_BARBARO]

There is a huge difference between Fractals immigrating to the USA and Juans. lol.


Nope, you can generalise that way. You turn out so childish like that.

[EL_BARBARO]

Fractals are a foreign body in America.

Juans, not.

[Antimage]

I'm not sure if this has a racial tone to it. Many non-white people are good at english. Indians tend to be good at english, especially the educated folks that go to America. Nigerians too. On the other hand I know a guy from my town who migrated to America without being able to speak a word of english. Wanting immigrants to speak the language of the host country ,this sounds like common sense to me rather than racism

[Kamal900]

I'm not sure if this has a racial tone to it. Many non-white people are good at english. Indians tend to be good at english, especially the educated folks that go to America. Nigerians too. On the other hand I know a guy from my town who migrated to America without being able to speak a word of english. Wanting immigrants to speak the language of the host country ,this sounds like common sense to me rather than racism

I speak English fluently myself, and I'm not White or European nor was I born or living in any western country.

[Antimage]

America belongs to indigenous.

Nope. It belongs to everyone who live there and hold citizenship.

[Fractal]

Fractals are a foreign body in America.

Juans, not.

What about El Barbaros, i.e.-Iberians?

[EL_BARBARO]

55 million people speaking spanish in USA

why can't others speak also their own language in a familiar way?

fluent english...

[EL_BARBARO]

What about El Barbaros, i.e.-Iberians?


El barbaros are not foreign in Iberia.

El barbaros don't migrate like a grasshopper from country to country like Fractals.

El barbaros remain in his own land, 'cause he's happy and well-off in his own country.

No need to cross the entire world like any obscure Fractal-immigrant

El barbaros not migrant, no foreign body in Iberia; Fractals are super-hyper-mega-foreign body whereever they migrate

[Fractal]

El barbaros are not foreign in Iberia.

El barbaros don't migrate like a grasshopper from country to country like Fractals.

El barbaros remain in his own land, 'cause he's happy and well-off in his own country.

No need to cross the entire world like any obscure Fractal-immigrant

El barbaros not migrant, no foreign body in Iberia; Fractals are super-hyper-mega-foreign body whereever they migrate

Well Spaniards did immigrate to other continents in the 17th-18th centuries. Also, your male ancestors should have taken your females along with them instead of mixing with the indigenous native tribal women.

https://i.redd.it/6igipfcc1nmy.png

[Fractal]

Indians in the USA make among the best immigrants. They are productive, educated, endogamous, and hardly cause any trouble. They are also some of the highest earners. Deal with it.

http://garvigujarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gujarati-businessman-garvigujarati.png

http://www.lassiwithlavina.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/rocky6954-200x300.jpg

[EL_BARBARO]

Well Spaniards did immigrate to other continents in the 17th-18th centuries. Also, your male ancestors should have taken your females along with them instead of mixing with the indigenous native tribal women.

https://i.redd.it/6igipfcc1nmy.png


We love fucking, Fractal. Don't you?

[EL_BARBARO]

Indians in the USA make among the best immigrants. They are productive, educated, endogamous, and hardly cause any trouble. They are also some of the highest earners. Deal with it.

http://garvigujarati.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/gujarati-businessman-garvigujarati.png

http://www.lassiwithlavina.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/rocky6954-200x300.jpg


But, unfortunately, brown and braggard.

You didn't built America.

You are just parasites in America.

[Fractal]

But, unfortunately, brown and braggard.

You didn't built America.

You are just parasites in America.

Neither did stupid Alejandro Gonzales Hispanics.

Do you know how many civil engineers are Indian here in America?

[EL_BARBARO]

Neither did stupid Alejandro Gonzales Hispanics.

Do you know how many civil engineers are Indian here in America?


I couldn't care less.

But still brown and braggard.

Don't get me wrong, Injun, I have nothing to do with the shitty world where you are.

[Selurong]

Neither did stupid Alejandro Gonzales Hispanics.

Do you know how many civil engineers are Indian here in America?

Lol. In the world's list of richest people, the only members who weren't Anglo-Americans were Mexicans and Spaniards. Not a single Indian or Indian-American made it to the list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires#2017

Go troll somewhere else Ross.

[Fractal]

Lol. In the world's list of richest people, the only members who weren't Anglo-Americans were Mexicans and Spaniards. Not a single Indian or Indian-American made it to the list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires#2017

Go troll somewhere else Ross.

Who cares. Those are OUTLIERS. There are more Greek billionaires probably too. Also, who cares what a Filipino of all people thinks. Are you kidding me right now? Your group literally are maids working for Indian business owners here in California.

Oh yeah and the only thing you people run are doughnut shops.

[EL_BARBARO]

Who cares. Those are OUTLIERS. There are more Greek billionaires probably too. Also, who cares what a Filipino of all people thinks LOL.

It is more trustworthy the word of a filipino than a braggard Injun's to me.

[Fractal]

It is more trustworthy the word of a filipino than a braggard Injun's to me.

No one here trusts Southern Europeans, especially Spaniards. Sorry to burst your bubble. Thats one of the defining stereotype of your kind.

And sorry but I do not cares for your catholic spanish speaking filipino brothers either

[Fractal]

Saratoga, California. Zip Code: 95070.
Average Household Income $215,176
Median Household Income $148,261

Surname: Patel (Gujarati)

58 results

Surname: Shah (Gujarati)

53 results


http://www.addresses.com/people/shah/saratoga+ca+95070

:rotfl:

[EL_BARBARO]

No one here trusts Southern Europeans, especially Spaniards. Sorry to burst your bubble. Thats one of the defining stereotype of your kind.

And sorry but I do not cares for your catholic spanish speaking filipino brothers either


You'll find very few Spaniards over there. Then you are lying, as in other occasions.

That is another point in common you Injuns have with the gypsies: both of you are pathological liars and deceivers.

About filipinos, of course I believe first in them than in an Injun or Gypsy.

What you'll find over there very frequently are Hispanics or Latinos. Those who are just expecting you open your mouth to stab you until your "madre".

Don't get me wrong. I don't wish you to be stabed, just kicked out into the ocean, Injun.

[Fractal]

Saratoga, California. Zip Code: 95070.
Average Household Income $215,176
Median Household Income $148,261

Surname: Patel (Gujarati)

58 results

Surname: Shah (Gujarati)

53 results


http://www.addresses.com/people/shah/saratoga+ca+95070

:rotfl:

forgot

Saratoga, California. Zip Code: 95070

Average Household Net Worth: $1,671,057
Median Home Sale Price: $1,486,500

[EL_BARBARO]

forgot

Saratoga, California. Zip Code: 95070

Average Household Net Worth: $1,671,057
Median Home Sale Price: $1,486,500


Are you here arguing with yourself, as the crazy people usually do?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

1. Immigration is being cut in total numbers and believe it: brilliant immigrants have been an engine in scientific adcancement in the US for many years now.

2. You would rather have welfare seeking immigrants than business owners?


3. "Being stuck with a low end job"... man, that isn't very sound economics. If new businesses are being invested in, then more jobs are available. That doesn't limit, but increases the supply of jobs available.

then remove welfare for people who are younger than 50. You will have greatly reduced the costs.
When you cut a buisness supply of cheap labor, you will cut a buisness production. It probably wouldn't increase your wage. Your products will be more expensive

Remove unemployment benefits for immigrants the first 4 -6 years or until they get citizenship. That way they can be discouraged from coming to America.

Allow people to descriminate against someone if they can't speak english. But also allow them to descriminate if they can't speak more than one language. Since multiple language speakers are more skilled.

Its good to have a mix of both low skilled and skilled. Or buisnesses will have to outsource for cheap labor to save costs. And do jobs the middle class will not want to do. Plus its uncapitalistic to interfere with a buisness ability to recruit cheap labor. Lets be real, americans don't want to be farming all day.

You can prefer buisness owner owner now but foreigners coming in will create communities of wealthy upperclass. And it will be a class clash again. The native born american will be the lower class. They wont be any lower immigrant class for americans to look down on. The immigrants will look down on the average american like fractal. I mean look. Our rich romanian friend RegisteredNurse 97 is already looking down on us. Hes out here prepping to buy the medical industry like a shill.

That is what will happen. The immigrants coming in basically have to prove they are better than you already before they are allowed in.

[Fractal]

Are you here arguing with yourself, as the crazy people usually do?

Are you mad because my group isn't seen as undesirable like yours? The only Indians I find undesirable are the ones who mix with non-Indians

[turbosat]

55 million people speaking spanish in USA

why can't others speak also their own language in a familiar way?

fluent english...

Because Spanish is a foreign language in USA, but English is not foreign language in USA.

[turbosat]

Fractals are a foreign body in America.

Juans, not.

Juans are foreign in USA.

[Fractal]

Juans are foreign in USA.

Not only are they foreign, they are downright not wanted by anyone including juans themselves

[EL_BARBARO]

Are you mad because my group isn't seen as undesirable like yours? The only Indians I find undesirable are the ones who mix with non-Indians

Nope. I am not.

What I can't bear is a braggard and a Gypsy like you. I can't avoid it.

What I can't bear is that someone is not grateful with the country whith has taken him in and consider himself better than the others.

What I can't bear is that someone refuses assimilation in the country that gave him the opportunities to make a living.

What I can't bear is how a fool individual can lead his own people till the general hatred in a whole country. As you does.

Take advantage of this moment. You've started to be seen as strange bodies.

Tomorrow is uncertain to you, especially for braggards like you. You already saw: shot down, stabed, beaten up...

Be careful when you go out. Don't talk too much.

[EL_BARBARO]

Juans are foreign in USA.


Juans are not foreign in USA.

Try harder.

[turbosat]

Lol. In the world's list of richest people, the only members who weren't Anglo-Americans were Mexicans and Spaniards. Not a single Indian or Indian-American made it to the list.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World%27s_Billionaires#2017

Go troll somewhere else Ross.

Carlos Slim is Lebanese origin born in Mexico.
"Slim was born on January 28, 1940, in Mexico City,[10] to Julián Slim Haddad (born Khalil Salim Haddad Aglamaz) and Linda Helú Atta, both Maronite Catholics from Lebanon".

Reason Indians are not in your top ten list is because Indian billionaires from India have their money in Rupees. Its over 80 rupees to US $1 conversion. On PPP basis Indians billionaires are far wealthier than these Anglo-Americans and others.

[Fractal]

Juans are not foreign in USA.

Try harder.

Juans are foreign in the USA, moron. Most Americans don't speak Spanish as their first language, don't practice catholicism and have no connection with Latin America.

Yes that means Iberians are foreign here too. Spanish is not the dominant lingua franca of American institutions.

[EL_BARBARO]

Because Spanish is a foreign language in USA, but English is not foreign language in USA.


Another buffoonery. Spanish was the first european language in over a half territory of present USA.

There is not rare at all. There's no official language in the USA.

What it'd be rare and strange is hindi in the USA or in UK.

Try harder.

[Fractal]

Juans are not foreign in USA.

Try harder.

Yeah I'm sure Juans founded Harvard too

http://humanistchaplaincies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/harvard.jpg

[EL_BARBARO]

Juans are foreign in the USA, moron. Most Americans don't speak Spanish as their first language, don't practice catholicism and have no connection with Latin America.

Yes that means Iberians are foreign here too. Spanish is not the dominant lingua franca of American institutions.


Juans are not foreign in USA, you motherfucker. Many of the first Americans were Juans.

What it is really strange is an Injun in the USA.

And, once the politically correct is gone, Americans have begun to react.

[EL_BARBARO]

Yeah I'm sure Juans founded Harvard too

http://humanistchaplaincies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/harvard.jpg


Was it an Injun?

[Fractal]

Was it an Injun?

No, but at least Hindus can get admitted to Harvard without affirmative action.

[Fractal]

Juans are not foreign in USA, you motherfucker. Many of the first Americans were Juans.

What it is really strange is an Injun in the USA.

And, once the politically correct is gone, Americans have begun to react.

ahh I see that ruffled some feathers Alejandro. :rotfl:

Juans are FOREIGN here, as foreign as I am. But far less desirable since they are overrepresented in lots of negativities which no one associates Indians with. Deal with it.

[EL_BARBARO]

No, but at least Hindus can get admitted to Harvard without affirmative action.


If you say it...

[turbosat]

But, unfortunately, brown and braggard.

You didn't built America.

You are just parasites in America.

Spaniards also did not build America or anywhere else. They more brought those places down than build up. Spain was a poor country (most people didnt have toilets either) until EU gave trillions of $s £s in aid.

[EL_BARBARO]

ahh I see that ruffled some feathers Alejandro. :rotfl:

Juans are FOREIGN here, as foreign as I am. But far less desirable since they are overrepresented in lots of negativities which no one associates Indians with. Deal with it.


Poor braggard.

Enjoy this moment.

:)

[turbosat]

Juans are not foreign in USA.

Try harder.

No, Juans are foreign parasites in USA. Just accept it and we can move on..

[EL_BARBARO]

Spaniards also did not build America or anywhere else. They more brought those places down than build up. Spain was a poor country (most people didnt have toilets either) until EU gave trillions of $s £s in aid.


Another good example about the deep similarities between an Injun and a Gypsy: pathological liars, deceivers...

Don't get us wrong with your shitty origin country: India is a whole septic tank.

Don't make any projection, please :)

[Fractal]

No, Juans are foreign parasites in USA. Just accept it and we can move on..

Precisely

[Fractal]

Another good example about the deep similarities between an Injun and a Gypsy: pathological liars, deceivers...

Don't get us wrong with your shitty origin country: India is a whole septic tank.

Don't make any projection, please :)

So when are you southern european countries gonna pay back all the money you borrow from productive countries like Germany?

[EL_BARBARO]

No, Juans are foreign parasites in USA. Just accept it and we can move on..


Nope. Many Juans built America.

You Injuns have just taken advantage of an America already built and rich.

You are just parasites.

The same those Injuns in the UK.

You just fled from your gigantic septic tank what India is to turn into parasites of other developped countries.

[Kamal900]

No, Juans are foreign parasites in USA. Just accept it and we can move on..

Do you mean Hispanics? Well, yeah, a good portion of the welfare recipients are indeed Hispanics, especially the illegal aliens where they drop their babies on American soil to get their children and for themselves American citizenship easily.

[turbosat]

I know this will get you all good and butthurt, but in general Mexico is a lot better than India and so are Mexicans. They simply are people with a average IQ that's a lot higher. They have clean water, decent sanitation, higher living standards and also.... uhm..... toilets. The life expectancy in Mexico is 75.65 whilst only 68.13 in India. However the US receives Mexico's trash basically. Gang members, poor folks, welfare moochers and generally the segment of Mexico that has the lowest IQ's. Indian migrants are different. The US receives Indians that have at least (if not higher) IQ's than the average white American. Migrating from India to Mexico is not as easy as crossing a poorly defended large border. You actually need to travel a large distance, you need to usually be able to speak English and it's a heck of a lot easier when you have an education and/ or money. Thereby ensuring that the Indian migrants to the US are among the highest IQ segments of India and even though Indians have a low IQ on average, a very large population ensures that there are plenty of Indians that have a average and/ or high IQ compared to white Americans on average. To summarize the difference is the segments of population the US receives from Mexico (low quality) and India (high quality), but in reality Indians would probably be worse.

Mexico water is not clean.
"For years, tourists have been asking about the safety of the drinking water in Mexico. Have times and changing technology enabled us travelers to casually grab a glass of H2O from the tap? To brush our teeth without worry? Unfortunately, not yet.

Despite the increasing number of water filtration systems being implemented within Mexico, the answer remains a resounding "No." Ingesting water tainted with bacteria is an easy way to get yourself very sick. But don't let that change your vacation plans. Instead, here is information to help keep yourself and your traveling companions healthy".

I would guess most Mexicans probably dont have proper toilers either. They probably just have a hole in the ground full of shit.
You cant flush toilet paper in the toilets that they do have. You have to keep toilet paper in bin..doesnt smell good.

[Fractal]

Nope. Many Juans built America.

You Injuns have just taken advantage of an America already built and rich.

You are just parasites.

The same those Injuns in the UK.

You just fled from your gigantic septic tank what India is to turn into parasites of other developped countries.

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and the only pathological liar in this thread is YOU but since you're a Southern European Latin I'll let it pass. If there is any immigrant group in the USA that is NOT parasitical: it's Hindu Indians hands down.

Hispanics aka Juans are easily one of the most parasitical and collect the most welfare after Afro-Americans. They also commit the 2nd highest level of crime, both violent and white collar. Deal with it.

oh yeah and your filipino bed buddy is just a maid for Indian business owners. he should be happy we give his aunt jobs.

[EL_BARBARO]

So when are you southern european countries gonna pay back all the money you borrow from productive countries like Germany?


As far as I know, every country has debts and pay them back. Also Spain. Even the USA.

Spain even lend money to other countries.

They give money to undevelopped countries as well.

Even it sends people to assist undevelopped and poor countries like India.

I have no idea you're talking about, Injun.

[Selurong]

Who cares. Those are OUTLIERS. There are more Greek billionaires probably too. Also, who cares what a Filipino of all people thinks. Are you kidding me right now? Your group literally are maids working for Indian business owners here in California.

Oh yeah and the only thing you people run are doughnut shops.

Lol. you are such a pathological liar. Even your own statistics which you quote so much say that Filipinos are the second richest Asian ethnic group in America after Indian-Americans. If we were maids how come we are so rich there?

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c4f35178e16d7338461353db47a7b4bd-c

http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/images/news-trends/2016-newswire/Asian-American-Newswire_Median%20HH%20Income.jpg

Also, that's only the case with Filipinos and Indians in America. It's actually reversed in the gulf Arab states. Most Indians there work as low class construction workers or maids whereas most Filipinos work there as professionals. It's the same case in Singapore. Filipinos are well respected while Indians are part of gangs.

Not to mention, the fact that the Philippines is a far more developed nation than India. Go troll someone else Ross. You're not fooling anyone here.

[Wadaad]

how does language proficiency favor Whites? Maybe you mean Anglos...but this favours a Jamaican over an Albanian easily.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

Lol. you are such a pathological liar. Even your own statistics which you quote so much say that Filipinos are the second richest Asian ethnic group in America after Indian-Americans. If we were maids how come we are so rich there?

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c4f35178e16d7338461353db47a7b4bd-c

http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/images/news-trends/2016-newswire/Asian-American-Newswire_Median%20HH%20Income.jpg

Also, that's only the case with Filipinos and Indians in America. It's actually reversed in the gulf Arab states. Most Indians there work as low class construction workers or maids whereas most Filipinos work there as professionals. It's the same case in Singapore. Filipinos are well respected while Indians are part of gangs.

Not to mention, the fact that the Philippines is a far more developed nation than India. Go troll someone else Ross. You're not fooling anyone here.

in the gulf states phillipinos are actually promised employment and then lied to. They are poor in the gulf states because traffickers extort them, and they basically have no rights since its the gulf state, they have no money and because people don't mind abusing foreigners there.

[EL_BARBARO]

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about and the only pathological liar in this thread is YOU but since you're a Southern European Latin I'll let it pass. If there is any immigrant group in the USA that is NOT parasitical: it's Hindu Indians hands down.

Hispanics aka Juans are easily one of the most parasitical and collect the most welfare after Afro-Americans. They also commit the 2nd highest level of crime, both violent and white collar. Deal with it.

oh yeah and your filipino bed buddy is just a maid for Indian business owners. he should be happy we give his aunt jobs.


bed buddy?

besides Injun, Gypsy-like and Parasite are you a Queer?

[Fractal]

........


Who's trolling Flips? I don't even know any filipinos except the maids at my uncle's hotels. Deal with it.

And no sorry I don't even know any that live in Almaden Valley-Los Gatos (an affluent suburb), because there are none. Deal with it.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

how does language proficiency favor Whites? Maybe you mean Anglos...but this favours a Jamaican over an Albanian easily.

??? but many of the Europeans I hear sound like robots too. I don't know if sounding like a robot qualifies for English Fluency. But maybe they can qualify for a google voice role somewhere over the phone

[EL_BARBARO]

Mexico water is not clean.
"For years, tourists have been asking about the safety of the drinking water in Mexico. Have times and changing technology enabled us travelers to casually grab a glass of H2O from the tap? To brush our teeth without worry? Unfortunately, not yet.

Despite the increasing number of water filtration systems being implemented within Mexico, the answer remains a resounding "No." Ingesting water tainted with bacteria is an easy way to get yourself very sick. But don't let that change your vacation plans. Instead, here is information to help keep yourself and your traveling companions healthy".

I would guess most Mexicans probably dont have proper toilers either. They probably just have a hole in the ground full of shit.
You cant flush toilet paper in the toilets that they do have. You have to keep toilet paper in bin..doesnt smell good.


Indian waters are fresh fecal shits and cadavers.

(Have you seen, anyone can tell bullshit in here... without a single source...)

[Selurong]

in the gulf states phillipinos are actually promised employment and then lied to. They are poor in the gulf states because traffickers extort them, and they basically have no rights since its the gulf state, they have no money and because people don't mind abusing foreigners there.

You can't even spell our ethnic group right. It's "Filipino" not "Philipino", as a Spanish speaker from the Dominican Republic I thought you would be nuanced enough to know this.

Yes, traffickers exploit all foreigners who enter the Gulf states, yet even then there are still different ranks of exploitation within it. The Indians are at the lowest rank in there. They are known to be underpaid slaves or construction workers, whereas there are more Filipino professionals in there.

[Jehan]

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c4f35178e16d7338461353db47a7b4bd-c

http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/images/news-trends/2016-newswire/Asian-American-Newswire_Median%20HH%20Income.jpg

Also, that's only the case with Filipinos and Indians in America. It's actually reversed in the gulf Arab states. Most Indians there work as low class construction workers or maids whereas most Filipinos work there as professionals. It's the same case in Singapore. Filipinos are well respected while Indians are part of gangs.

Not to mention, the fact that the Philippines is a far more developed nation than India. Go troll someone else Ross. You're not fooling anyone here.



Interesting to notice that filipinos have earn more than many other ethnicity without havinf an exceptionnaly high rate of college degree.
For me it's show that filipinos have a true intelligence, as they acheive to get success without having high diploma. They just make there way in professionnal world.

[Fractal]

Indian waters are fresh fecal shits and cadavers.

(Have you seen, anyone can tell bullshit in here... without a single source...)

lol carry on with the butthurtedness.

La Jolla, San Diego California (where I have in-laws by the way).

Median house price: $1,748,700

Patels (Gujaratis)

45 results

Shahs (Gujaratis)

28 results

:rotfl:

[PegLegPeter]

Not surprising, Trump is a racist and hates Islam, but I still think he is better than the other option, Clinton.

Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds to anyone with a clue?

Prior to beating the democrats, Trump won several awards from minority groups for his help funding or otherwise organizing events for them.

Even the black power extremists of the NAACP under jesse jackson awarded Trump.

If you werent so intellectually dishonest, or lazy, you would also know that there are many US Muslims that support and agree with Trumps travel ban.

Like most sane people, they dont want the US to turn into another muslim shit hole, like europe has.

Let's face it, once a nations population goes over 2% muslim or 10% black things usually start going bad.

[Fractal]

Indian waters are fresh fecal shits and cadavers.

(Have you seen, anyone can tell bullshit in here... without a single source...)

lol carry on with the butthurtedness.

La Jolla, San Diego California (where I have in-laws by the way).

Median house price: $1,748,700

Patels (Gujaratis)

45 results

Shahs (Gujaratis)

28 results

:rotfl:

http://www.addresses.com/people/patel/la+jolla+ca

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

You can't even spell our ethnic group right. It's "Filipino" not "Philipino", as a Spanish speaker from the Dominican Republic I thought you would be nuanced enough to know this.

Yes, traffickers exploit all foreigners who enter the Gulf states, yet even then there are still different ranks of exploitation within it. The Indians are at the lowest rank in there. They are known to be underpaid slaves or construction workers, whereas there are more Filipino professionals in there.
Im not from the dominican republic.

And I don't speak spanish.
Its the same thing to me.
Also they pretty much exploit every foreigner like that, including ones from malaysia. It was no offense about Fillipino or Phillipinos. It doesn't reflect them in a bad light. It only shows people in the gulf states are cruel. I don't understand how you missed this. It seems people often associate the abused as lower then the person who abuses them. Its pretty weird.

[PegLegPeter]

It's about time the US starting to help the REAL minorities in the world. :)

[Fractal]

You can't even spell our ethnic group right. It's "Filipino" not "Philipino", as a Spanish speaker from the Dominican Republic I thought you would be nuanced enough to know this.

Yes, traffickers exploit all foreigners who enter the Gulf states, yet even then there are still different ranks of exploitation within it. The Indians are at the lowest rank in there. They are known to be underpaid slaves or construction workers, whereas there are more Filipino professionals in there.

Filipinos are NOTHING and by the way those construction workers you refer to are mostly Dravidians and Bangladeshis. Gujaratis(my sub-group) are probably one of the wealthiest ethnicities in the UAE like they are in the USA, they are one of the biggest hotel investors for instance

Deal with it, flip.

[Selurong]

Interesting to notice that filipinos have earn more than many other ethnicity without havinf an exceptionnaly high rate of college degree.
For me it's show that filipinos have a true intelligence, as they acheive to get success without having high diploma. They just make there way in professionnal world.

I don't believe that we really have any innate intelligence that makes us smarter than anyone else. I think we just work hard. That's all.

[EL_BARBARO]

Im not from the dominican republic.

And I don't speak spanish.
Its the same thing to me.
Also they pretty much exploit every foreigner like that, including ones from malaysia. It was no offense about Fillipino or Phillipinos. It doesn't reflect them in a bad light. It only shows people in the gulf states are cruel. I don't understand how you missed this. It seems people often associate the abused as lower then the person who abuses them. Its pretty weird.


If you don't even speak Spanish, why do you show the spanish flag as your personal information?

[Fractal]

If you don't even speak Spanish, why do you show the spanish flag as your personal information?

Fuck Spain.

[Heather Duval]

All NW Europeans (except the French and perhaps Belgians) speak fluent English. Even with our Norenglish as we call it. We're able to comprehend English probably better than the average drooling American and we can speak it well enough for others to understand. Eastern Europeans can speak it as well. My granny and mom can speak Russian better than English, yet Romanians that are under 25 can basically all speak English fluently. This is true for basically all Europeans (exceptions being probably French, Iberians, Italians, some balkanites etc.) However is that proof that this will make America "whiter"? Hell no! You see there are 309,865,536 English speakers just in India, Pakistan, the Phillipines and Nigeria put together. English speakers in the EU number in total at 256,876,220. Also what makes people think that an Indian has less incentive to migrate than a German? Obviously the German has a lot less. Basically if this passes the USA will get less Juan's, but more Fractal's, it makes little to no difference from the way I see it.

lol
southern euro arent fluent at all in english
every time i put my apps on southern euro to match guys i ask them to speak in english cause i cant speak spanish, italian or shits
and they all say to me " i dont speak english" so i have to use google tradutor

[Selurong]

Im not from the dominican republic.

And I don't speak spanish.
Its the same thing to me.
Also they pretty much exploit every foreigner like that, including ones from malaysia. It was no offense about Fillipino or Phillipinos. It doesn't reflect them in a bad light. It only shows people in the gulf states are cruel. I don't understand how you missed this. It seems people often associate the abused as lower then the person who abuses them. Its pretty weird.

Yeah. My cousin worked as a doctor in the UAE for five years and she can confirm what you said. Foreigners are treated like slaves there. It's so sad, I wonder why they are so uncivilized.

[EL_BARBARO]

lol carry on with the butthurtedness.

La Jolla, San Diego California (where I have in-laws by the way).

Median house price: $1,748,700

Patels (Gujaratis)

45 results

Shahs (Gujaratis)

28 results

:rotfl:


It seems you not to want to understand, Injun.

I don't give a fuck about your figures.

That's Immigrant Information.

Argue about it with other immigrants over there.

I am not an Immigrant like you.

In my country, to have to migrate, even within our own country, is a disgrace.

You're a disgraceful, shameful, miserable person in front of my eyes, injun immigrant.

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

If you don't even speak Spanish, why do you show the spanish flag as your personal information?
Because i was trolling CV earlier. Why do i have the amazigh flag with it?

[Fractal]

It seems you not to want to understand, Injun.

I don't give a fuck about your figures.

That's Immigrant Information.

Argue about it with other immigrants over there.

I am not an Immigrant like you.

In my country, to have to migrate, even within our own country, is a disgrace.

You're a disgraceful, shameful, miserable person in front of my eyes, injun immigrant.

This thread is about immigration to America, you Spanish dip shit.

[EL_BARBARO]

Because i was trolling CV earlier. Why do i have the amazigh flag with it?


Ah, okay.

I was just intrigued about.

[Selurong]

Filipinos are NOTHING and by the way those construction workers you refer to are mostly Dravidians and Bangladeshis. Gujaratis(my sub-group) are probably one of the wealthiest ethnicities in the UAE like they are in the USA, they are one of the biggest hotel investors for instance

Deal with it, flip.

Aren't those Dravidians still your fellow Indians too? Why are you disowning them? Don't they deserve to be called a fellow Indian too? You would disown your fellow countrymen if it suits you. How patriotic of you.

[EL_BARBARO]

This thread is about immigration to America, you Spanish dip shit.


You Injun --the shitty essence of you is already included in your toponym-- I repeat you I don't give a fuck about your shitty figures.

I am Spaniard living in Spain, not a brown, shitty Injun immigrant like you. I have no interest in your shitty injun immigration fucking figures.

Don't quoted me to display 'em.

It's as if you throw a cadaver into a river in India.

[EL_BARBARO]

Fuck Spain.


Coming from a brown injun immigrant, that turns out a compliment. :)

[EL_BARBARO]

Fuck Spain.


Coming from a brown injun immigrant, that turns out a compliment. :)

[EL_BARBARO]

lol
southern euro arent fluent at all in english
every time i put my apps on southern euro to match guys i ask them to speak in english cause i cant speak spanish, italian or shits
and they all say to me " i dont speak english" so i have to use google tradutor


Yes, especially Spaniards. We weren't ever invaded either by English nor Americans, as many european countries.

The thing is not that "we can't speak english", many of us really can. The thing is that we don't want to speak english.

[turbosat]

Lol. you are such a pathological liar. Even your own statistics which you quote so much say that Filipinos are the second richest Asian ethnic group in America after Indian-Americans. If we were maids how come we are so rich there?

https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-c4f35178e16d7338461353db47a7b4bd-c

http://www.nielsen.com/content/dam/corporate/us/en/images/news-trends/2016-newswire/Asian-American-Newswire_Median%20HH%20Income.jpg

Also, that's only the case with Filipinos and Indians in America. It's actually reversed in the gulf Arab states. Most Indians there work as low class construction workers or maids whereas most Filipinos work there as professionals. It's the same case in Singapore. Filipinos are well respected while Indians are part of gangs.

Not to mention, the fact that the Philippines is a far more developed nation than India. Go troll someone else Ross. You're not fooling anyone here.

Not correct (highlighted). Most Filipinos work in low jobs in Gulf states, though there are some nurses too but their pay is not high, whereas Indians work in all types of jobs from low quality jobs to many professionals and very high positions and including many wealthy business owners.

This Punjabi guy is main horse trainer for Dubai ruler Sheikh Mohammed's horses in Dubai.
http://www.satishseemar.com/

http://www.aladiyat.ae/gallery/news/medium/1389133609.jpg

Satish Seemar receives award from Her Majesty The Queen
http://www.satishseemar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/award1.jpg

[Heather Duval]

Yes, especially Spaniards. We weren't ever invaded either by English nor Americans, as many european countries.

The thing is not that "we can't speak english", many of us really can. The thing is that we don't want to speak english.

it would change my life if they could
i really cant speak southern european languages
necessito aulas

[MsSPF]

It was not the case before ? :lol: I'm highly surprised.
That's normal to speak the language of your host country when you are an economic immigrant.
You have to be useful economically to your host country, not a burden and for that you need to understand, speak & write the language.
This bill is not racist, it is common sense. I don't think it favors necessarily "Whites"/"Europeans, it favors Anglophones mostly (whether they are highly skilled or not). It is already better but they need to go further in their process.
Opening borders without a concise selection & a desorganized low skilled mass immigration were the biggest mistakes most countries did during the last decades & we can see its results for example in Europe. Immigrants have been very useful during a time because cheap and willing to accept any thankless jobs that the locals were more fearful to execute, they have been used to replace a working force when the local citizens were seeing their social status increasing. But the infrastructures & the social supervising did not followed and were poor and the important differences in terms of education/economic status & cultural divergences and in some cases, history & resentful pasts (the case of France for example) did not helped.
It created high social/cultural disparities & the ghettoization of some areas and leads to the huge social crisis we are currently crossing. The governments failed deeply their immigration policies.
This is how you try to deal with a brand new globalization & when it turns to be uncontrollable. Immigration laws should be studied cautiously because it involves irreversible economic/social impacts.

[EL_BARBARO]

it would change my life if they could
i really cant speak southern european languages
necessito aulas

basta com o teu português

[EL_BARBARO]

It was not the case before ? :lol: I'm highly surprised.
That's normal to speak the language of your host country when you are an economic immigrant.
You have to be useful economically to your host country, not a burden and for that you need to understand, speak & write the language.
This bill is not racist, it is common sense. I don't think it favors necessarily "Whites"/"Europeans, it favors Anglophones mostly (whether they are highly skilled or not). It is already better but they need to go further in their process.
Opening borders without a concise selection & a desorganized low skilled mass immigration were the biggest mistakes most countries did during the last decades & we can see its results for example in Europe. Immigrants have been very useful during a time because cheap and willing to accept any thankless jobs that the locals were more fearful to execute, they have been used to replace a working force when the local citizens were seeing their social status increasing. But the infrastructures & the social supervising did not followed and were poor and the important differences in terms of education/economic status & cultural divergences and in some cases, history & resentful pasts (the case of France for example) did not helped.
It created high social/cultural disparities & the ghettoization of some areas and leads to the huge social crisis we are currently crossing. The governments failed deeply their immigration policies.
This is how you try to deal with a brand new globalization & when it turns to be uncontrollable. Immigration laws should be studied cautiously because it involves irreversible economic/social impacts.


yes, you're right. But victimhood rules.

familiarly one can speak martian language, but outside the others' language.

that's older than rolling

[EL_BARBARO]

it would change my life if they could
i really cant speak southern european languages
necessito aulas


a proposito, portugues/brasileño es un south european language as well...

[EL_BARBARO]

Who's trolling Flips? I don't even know any filipinos except the maids at my uncle's hotels. Deal with it.

And no sorry I don't even know any that live in Almaden Valley-Los Gatos (an affluent suburb), because there are none. Deal with it.


You troll and insult everybody here, douchebag

Don't be that hypocrythical now :)

Gypsy, a real Gypsy :rotfl:

[Fractal]

Coming from a brown injun immigrant, that turns out a compliment. :)

Who cares. You're a foreigner here as much as I am. In fact more so since you're entire outlook is European. Europeans especially ones from Southern Europe are utterly out of place in the San Francisco Bay Area (except the City which is full of fags and orientals/flips and douchebag whites)

By the way, I would love to see your wetback offpring try to attack any Gujarat hotel owner, in particular my cousin since he manages his dads properties in Oakland and owns one of these

If I ever decide to purchase a 9mm, this would be it (CZ 75)

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/imgres/1200x/Shooting/pistols/CZ-75-SP-01-Phantom-semiautomatic-pistol-9x19mm-test/CZ-75-SP-01-Phantom-in-9-mm-Luger.jpg

[Kamal900]

Not correct (highlighted). Most Filipinos work in low jobs in Gulf states, though there are some nurses too but their pay is not high, whereas Indians work in all types of jobs from low quality jobs to many professionals and very high positions and including many wealthy business owners.

This Punjabi guy is main horse trainer for Dubai ruler Sheikh Mohammed's horses in Dubai.
http://www.satishseemar.com/

http://www.aladiyat.ae/gallery/news/medium/1389133609.jpg

Satish Seemar receives award from Her Majesty The Queen
http://www.satishseemar.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/award1.jpg

Basically this. Indians work in all professions, and they are the richest people in the UAE after the local Emirati people. Pakistanis and Bangladeshis work in lower collared jobs, Nepalis work in securing very important banks and other government sectors(the locals don't trust other Arabs for the jobs, lol) and Sri Lankans work mostly in IT and electrical engineering.

[EL_BARBARO]

Who cares. You're a foreigner here as much as I am. In fact more so since you're entire outlook is European. Europeans especially ones from Southern Europe are utterly out of place in the San Francisco Bay Area (except the City which is full of fags and orientals/flips and douchebag whites)

By the way, I would love to see your wetback offpring try to attack any Gujarat hotel owner, in particular my cousin since he manages his dads properties in Oakland and owns one of these

If I ever decide to purchase a 9mm, this would be it (CZ 75)

https://www.all4shooters.com/en/imgres/1200x/Shooting/pistols/CZ-75-SP-01-Phantom-semiautomatic-pistol-9x19mm-test/CZ-75-SP-01-Phantom-in-9-mm-Luger.jpg


The point is I am not there. I am not living there.

I am here. In my own country. I am not an immigrant. I don't need to be an immigrant like you and all your family and relatives, escaping from the gigantic shithole it is your original country, India.

You are an immigrant, a sort of immigrant hated not only by the natives of that country but by the other immigrants too.

Deal with that.


Ulterior edit: By the way, I'd look forwards to seeing every single gujarati motel burnt to the ground, just because of entertainment. And by the way, everybody can bring a gun in USA.

[Tooting Carmen]

As others have said, the idea that this will favour more White immigration is a nonsense, as more Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Malaysians, Filipinos, Nigerians, Kenyans, Tanzanians, Ghanaians, Jamaicans and Trinidadians would be eligible than would people from many European countries. It will certainly reduce Latin American and Northeast Asian immigration, yes, but may instead increase immigration from the Caribbean, Sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia.

[Fractal]

As others have said, the idea that this will favour more White immigration is a nonsense, as more Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Malaysians, Filipinos, Nigerians, Kenyans, Tanzanians, Ghanaians, Jamaicans and Trinidadians would be eligible than would people from many European countries. It will certainly reduce Latin American and Northeast Asian immigration, yes, but may instead increase immigration from the Caribbean, Sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia.

Indian and Pakistani immigrants are nothing like Nigerians or Ghanaians or even Fiipinos for that matter. They can actually compete with the White man like the Northeast Orientals can. Sorry but your group cannot, Latin Americans namely.

I say no immigration from anywhere at this point.

[ÁGUIA]

It is more about who will disfavor rather than who will favour.
Who are the biggest candidates to immigration
to USA.?

[Taiguaitiaoghyrmmumin]

No, apostasy here isn't punishable by death like Saudi Arabia, and yes, I know the UAE isn't my country since the people that are running the country are native Emirati Arabs, and we're living under their rules and laws as expats like other foreigners here. Being fluent in a language doesn't negate on what I have said regarding the levels of contributions, intelligence and even crimes that are committed in the country that differs between racial and ethnic groups in the country.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates#Ap ostasy


Apostasy is a crime in the United Arab Emirates.[16] In 1978, UAE began the process of Islamising the nation's law, after its council of ministers voted to appoint a High Committee to identify all its laws that conflicted with Sharia. Among the many changes that followed, UAE incorporated hudud crimes of Sharia into its Penal Code - apostasy being one of them.[17] Article 1 and Article 66 of UAE's Penal Code requires hudud crimes to be punished with the death penalty.[18][19]
Christians and other religions are allowed to have their own places of worship, but they are not allowed to convert muslims. But they may convert to Islam. [20]


https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/13-countries-where-atheism-punishable-death/355961/

The countries that impose these penalties are Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. With the exception of Pakistan, those countries all allow for capital punishment against apostasy, i.e., the renunciation of a particular religion. Pakistan, meanwhile, imposes the death penalty for blasphemy, which can obviously include disbelief in God.


https://www.rt.com/news/310471-uae-bans-insulting-god/

he United Arab Emirates have adopted a new law, which criminalizes all forms of discrimination, protects religion and religious institutions, bans vandalism, i[U]nsults to God], prophets and the like. It also bars epithets such as “infidel” or “unbeliever.”[/U
The Anti-Discriminatory Law was enacted by Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan, the president of the federation of seven hereditary monarchies, the state news agency Wam reported on Monday.

The law criminalizes all forms of discrimination on the grounds of religion, caste, creed, doctrine, race, color or ethnic origin. It bans hate speech through any media with the intention of providing a “sound foundation for the environment of tolerance, broadmindedness and acceptance in the UAE and aims to safeguard people regardless of their origin, beliefs or race, against acts that promote religious hate and intolerance.”

The new legislation doubles as anti-blasphemy law, as it prohibits any insult of “God, his prophets or apostles or holy books or houses of worship or graveyards.” It prohibits “any act that amounts to abuse of religion or vandalism of religious rituals” and bans speech inciting religious hatred, particularly calling other people infidels or unbelievers.

READ MORE: Facebook post lands Australian woman in UAE prison

The law apparently targets radical Islamist groups like Islamic State, which routinely labels Muslims who don’t support its extremist cause as apostates. It calls on violators to submit themselves to the authorities, saying a court will waive penalties in such cases. Violating the law brings a prison sentence of up to 10 years or a heavy fine.

Public figures in the UAE praised the new law, saying it’s very progressive.

“This new anti-hate law serves as a model for the rest of the world at a time when hate is spreading across the region and the globe,” Theodore Karasik, a geopolitical analyst, told the Gulf Times.

“Not only does the new law enforce tolerance on those who harbor hate, but also puts the UAE ahead of any other country in the world in terms of stifling anger over ‘those who may be different’ through stereotypes. There is no space in the UAE for this type of behavior because the phenomena [are] counterproductive, hurtful, and demeaning,” he added.

READ MORE: Iceland’s Pirate Party gets law passed abolishing ‘blasphemy’

Given the country’s poor human rights record, however, there are concerns the law will be used to actually crack down on prejudice and discrimination.

"The concern is clearly that it will be used to further stifle speech under the guise of promoting tolerance," Nicholas McGeehan, Gulf researcher at Human Rights Watch, told Middle East Eye.

The UAE is criticized by rights groups for abusing foreign workers and stifling dissent, among other things.

https://unitedyouthjournalists.com/2015/05/28/the-other-side-of-dubai-%E2%80%92-mehmet-yilmaz-the-uae/



Blasphemy is also illegal in the UAE and a blasphemy conviction can lead to an apostasy conviction, punishable by death. Conversion to other religions or supporting atheism is forbidden and the legal punishment for conversion from Islam is death. In practice, however, there have been no known prosecutions or legal punishments for apostasy in court.

https://unitedyouthjournalists.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/d984d982d8b7d8a9-d8a7d984d8b4d8a7d8b4d8a9-5.png

[Tooting Carmen]

It is more about who will disfavor rather than who will favour.
Who are the biggest candidates to immigration
to USA.?

Atm Mexicans, Central Americans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipinos and Indians.

[Fractal]

The only European ethnicities that offer competition to White Americans, Indians, and Chinamen here in Silicon Valley are Germans, Russians, Dutch, and British.

Everyone else is just a drag especially Latin Americans, Africans, and the other irrelevant European ethnicities.

[EL_BARBARO]

As others have said, the idea that this will favour more White immigration is a nonsense, as more Indians, Pakistanis, Sri Lankans, Malaysians, Filipinos, Nigerians, Kenyans, Tanzanians, Ghanaians, Jamaicans and Trinidadians would be eligible than would people from many European countries. It will certainly reduce Latin American and Northeast Asian immigration, yes, but may instead increase immigration from the Caribbean, Sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia.


And from any single archipelago, island, islet or atoll from the Pacific Ocean.

[Fractal]

Atm Mexicans, Central Americans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Chinese, Vietnamese, Filipinos and Indians.

Indians and Chinamen have virtually nothing in common with these ethncic groups including Filipinos. They're actually very competitive and on the same level as most White Americans. Stop kidding yourself and dragging down higher non-White ethnicities to lower levels.

By the way I don't want more Orientals here, this place looks like Hong Kong in many areas and its disgusting.

[EL_BARBARO]

The only European ethnicities that offer competition to White Americans, Indians, and Chinamen here in Silicon Valley are Germans, Russians, Dutch, and British.

Everyone else is just a drag especially Latin Americans, Africans, and the other irrelevant European ethnicities.


You're so lowed payed than anyone can compete with yourselves.

That's the reason why Trump Administration is preventing you to enter in the USA so easily.

As said, your days are counted over there.

Just go back home.

[Fractal]

You're so lowed payed than anyone can compete with yourselves.

That's the reason why Trump Administration is preventing you to enter in the USA so easily.

As said, your days are counted over there.

Just go back home.

Sorry but the only competitive ethnic groups here besides Whites are Indians and Chinamen. that's just a fact. Out of the Euro ethnicities its Russians, Germanics, and Brits.

http://christianknudsen.info/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/race_median_income.jpg

[EL_BARBARO]

Indians and Chinamen have virtually nothing in common with these ethncic groups including Filipinos. They're actually very competitive and on the same level as most White Americans. Stop kidding yourself and dragging down higher non-White ethnicities to lower levels.

By the way I don't want more Orientals here, this place looks like Hong Kong in many areas and its disgusting.


Don't forget you are one of them, injun.

[Fractal]

Don't forget you are one of them, injun.

I said all net immigration should cease at this point, including Indian.

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[EL_BARBARO]

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Exactly. Thanks.

That's the main reason that you are no longer wanted over there.

Enjoy your last days.

You've been "tolerated" so long. US enterprises have really made a lot of money with y'all.

American workers are realizing they are losing their jobs and you work for lower wages, longer, smiling and never complaining.

As long as they had three meals a day and their children hadn't to walk barefoot, you won't be thrown into the ocean.

[Fractal]

pronto tonto fonto gonzales duego buenos nochas el hambre heee haaaa

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[EL_BARBARO]

I said all net immigration should cease at this point, including Indian.

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Exactly, exactly :nod:

Thanks again.

[EL_BARBARO]

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Trump won elections with a so clear target.

Next US presidents will follow same targets.

No more cheap injun labour force in America.

[Fractal]

Trump won elections with a so clear target.

Next US presidents will follow same targets.

No more cheap injun labour force in America.

Alejandro, give it up. We're the most productive immigrant group in America. :rotfl:

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[EL_BARBARO]

Alejandro, give it up. We're the most productive immigrant group in America. :rotfl:

http://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/12/2016/10/FT_16.09.29_wealthReligiousGroups-3.png


More Indians Who Moved To The U.S. Decide To Return Home




http://www.npr.org/2015/03/13/392718538/growing-number-of-indians-who-moved-to-u-s-decide-to-return-home


Just the beginning of the beginning...

[EL_BARBARO]

For Indians, Trump’s America Is a Land of Lost Opportunity


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/23/world/asia/india-trump-america.html


By GEETA ANAND APRIL 23, 2017


MUMBAI, India — Generations of Indians have admired the United States for almost everything. But many are infuriated and unnerved by what they see as a wave of racist violence under President Trump, souring America’s allure.

The reaction is not just anger and anxiety. Now, young Indians who have aspired to study, live and work in the United States are looking elsewhere.

“We don’t know what might happen to us while walking on the street there,” said Kanika Arora, a 20-year-old student in Mumbai who is reconsidering her plan to study in the United States. “They might just think that we’re terrorists.”

Recent attacks on people of Indian descent in the United States are explosive news in India. A country once viewed as the promised land now seems for many to be dangerously inhospitable.

Further alienating Indians, especially among their highly educated class, is the Trump administration’s reassessment of H-1B visas given mostly for information technology jobs. More than 85,000 are granted a year, the majority to Indians.



“America was the land of great opportunity,” Sanket Bafna, 21, said as he emerged one afternoon last week from an exam at K. C. College, where he is studying financial management. “It’s not the same land.”

This year, undergraduate applications from India fell at 26 percent of United States educational institutions, and 15 percent of graduate programs, according to a survey of 250 American universities by the American Association of Collegiate Registrars and Admissions Officers.

The number of applications for H-1B visas also fell to 199,000, a nearly 20 percent decline, according to data kept by United States Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Like many others, Indians were offended by Mr. Trump’s promises to block the Mexico border with a wall and bar people from six predominantly Muslim countries. Some took solace that India was not targeted.

But they soon saw that anti-immigrant rage in America did not discriminate.

In February, two Indian immigrants were shot, one fatally, at a bar in Kansas by a man who witnesses said had shouted ethnic slurs and told them they did not belong in the United States.

Since then, several more attacks on Indian immigrants have been closely covered by the Indian news media. While the authorities have not linked all to anti-immigrant bigotry, the belief that Indians are under attack in America seems cemented in the minds of many.

About 3.2 million people of Indian descent live in the United States, slightly more than 1 percent of the population, a Pew Research Center report found.

Most hold green cards and H-1B visas, and are far more affluent and educated than the average American.

Indian-Americans play an outsize role in Silicon Valley, where some, including Google’s chief executive, Sundar Pichai, have founded or run some of the most successful companies.


But success stories like Mr. Pichai’s no longer inspire the jealousy they once did in India.

Ms. Arora, leaving H. R. College of Commerce and Economics, where she had finished an exam, said her parents had reservations about sending her brother to the United States, where he had been planning to enroll in college this year.

Ms. Arora said she, like her brother, “did aspire to work and study in America, but I’m reconsidering.”

The biggest reason, she said, was the violence directed against Indians.

“Every day, there’s a new headline about an Indian or Asian getting killed,” she said.

Now, Ms. Arora said, she and others in India are looking more favorably on Europe for study and work, despite the upheaval over Britain’s planned exit from the European Union. “Comparatively, it’s considered safer,” she said.

In the end, Mr. Trump’s policies may benefit their home country by cutting off the brain drain, Ms. Arora and other Indians said. “All the intelligent people are coming back and can work here,” she added.

As students of Mumbai’s colleges reviewed dog-eared question papers with friends on the sidewalk after finishing their exams, they returned again and again to astonishment that someone like Mr. Trump could be elected.

“I was like, ‘Wow, how did you elect somebody like him?’” said Shantanu Sivan, 20, who studies mass media at Wilson College. “I think I lost hope in the people of America.”

Ananya Gupta, 21, who studies financial management at K. C. College, laced his disappointment with contempt.

“That just shows where they stand intellectually, electing a person of Trump’s nature as a president,” he said.

When asked if he had an opinion on America under Mr. Trump, Mr. Gupta, standing across the street from his college, among other students at a beverage stand, replied, “Who doesn’t?”

“Of course as a child, I used to dream about going to America, the land of opportunity.” But today, he said, “I wouldn’t want to go there.”

Not everyone is so negative about America under Mr. Trump. Devanshu Jain, 21, said he still planned to study and work there.

“There’s racism in India, too,” he said. “Who doesn’t want to work for Goldman Sachs in New York City, right?”

But he said some friends were “so shaken up about what’s happening” that they have transferred from American universities to Canadian institutions in recent months.

At Mumbai’s Todi Mills, an old mill area converted in recent years into restaurants, bars and office space for young entrepreneurs, Mr. Trump’s America is also viewed with trepidation.

“People are really thinking America’s going downhill,” said Shikha Mittal, 33, founder of Be.artsy, a nine-person firm specializing in using art for marketing.

“It’s hard to take him seriously because the perception is so nonserious about him, that he’s not fit for the role he’s got,” Ms. Mittal said. “It’s affected how people think about America. What made people vote for him? What sort of people have voted for him?”

Around the corner, Abhishek Singh, 23, sat with a friend at a patio table of a pub, worrying about the effect of Mr. Trump on the world.

“The U.S. has been such a good country with such good policies,” said Mr. Singh, a brewer. “And this guy comes to power, and you don’t know what he might actually do.”

Mr. Singh, who dreams about owning a pub some day, said he was scared by Mr. Trump’s recent bombings in Syria and Afghanistan.

“He might start World War III,” Mr. Singh said. “He might kill us all.”

Still, some Indians seem willing to overlook what they find offensive about Mr. Trump if he is tough on Pakistan.

India has fought three wars with Pakistan, and many Indians think it is behind terrorist attacks in the country. Mr. Trump’s tough talk on terrorism has given these Indians hope.

“On one side, he’s absolutely a mad guy,” said Abhay Bhalerao, 50, the founder and managing director of a software company that provides price comparison data.

“But on other side, he seems to understand that Pakistan is the bad guy.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/23/world/asia/india-trump-america.html

[EL_BARBARO]

Tic

Tac

Tic

Tac

[Heather Duval]

its all about indians

[EL_BARBARO]

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[Fractal]

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Let's replace all the Indian IT specialists with Nigerians, Guatemalans and Balkanoid ones....good idea.

[EL_BARBARO]

Let's replace all the Indian IT specialists with Nigerians, Guatemalans and Balkanoid ones....good idea.


Nope.

Just Americans.


N.B.: People who voted and will vote Trump and sucessors.

[EL_BARBARO]

Trump’s new immigration policy threatens up to 5 lakh (500,000) Indians


An estimated half a million Indians living illegally in the United States could be among those targeted under the Donald Trump administration’s plans unveiled on Tuesday to aggressively “facilitate the detection, apprehension, detention, and removal (deportation)” of undocumented immigrants.

President Donald Trumphas laid the groundwork for potentially deporting millions of undocumented immigrants by issuing new guidance that drastically broadens the ways in which federal immigration laws should be enforced.

There are an estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the US, and upwards of 8 million of them are expected to find themselves targeted under the new policy. Only those who were illegally brought in to the country as children and the parents of children born here will be exempt.

The Indian government is aware that its nationals are illegally residing in the US, but does not know how many there are, for which it has relied on estimates by American think tanks and research groups. However, it expects to hear from the Trump administration if and when Indians are rounded up for deportation, as is the procedure.

...


http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/donald-trump-hardens-immigration-rules-3-lakh-indian-americans-to-be-affected/story-L1YaYVWOo1ZvWJG97oNmHJ.html

[Jehan]

Trump’s new immigration policy threatens up to 5 lakh (500,000) Indians



You took it as a joke.
Let's just hope they won't come in Europe after being expulse from USA.

[turbosat]

More Indians Who Moved To The U.S. Decide To Return Home




http://www.npr.org/2015/03/13/392718538/growing-number-of-indians-who-moved-to-u-s-decide-to-return-home


Just the beginning of the beginning...

Some people return to India but their kids come back to America, because they are American, unlike you.

"JONES: Apurna Rayaprol is a professor of sociology at the University of Hyderabad. She studies trends of Indians who return from abroad, as she herself did in the '90s. She says it used to be more of a culture shock to come back. But now, thanks to globalization...

APURNA RAYAPROL: You have Dominoes. You have Pepsi. You have Pizza Hut. You have everything here.

JONES: Technology and India's government also now make it easier than ever for Indians to come home. But down the line, Rayaprol says many ex-pat families tend to hit a crossroads. That's when kids finish high school and set their sights again toward the West.

RAYAPROL: Because they're all American-born kids with American citizenship, they'll go back to college. So are the parents going to follow them?"

[zhaoyun]

I think these measures are logical. Unless it starts to have overly racist undertones, I think these rules make sense.

The US hasn't had a chance to absorb all of the immigration that it has. If it fails to do that while White Americans become a minority, it will just balkanize and become a Yugoslavia. The US needs time to absorb these new waves of immigrants culturally and into their bloodline, to create a more homogeneous American identity.

Also, the liberal narrative that constantly promotes an antagonistic "POC" narrative, doesn't really help either.

[RMuller]

Another buffoonery. Spanish was the first european language in over a half territory of present USA.

Just look at some of the states names California,Colorado,Nevada,New Mexico "Nuevo Mexico". Cities like Los Angeles
San Francisco,San Diego,sAn Antonio, El Paso,San Jose, Santa Barbara, Santa Fe,Las Vegas,Santa Ana,Sacramento,Fresno,
Laredo,Albuquerque,Reno, etc etc.

The Spanish language was the main language in California,Arizona,Texas,New Mexico,Colorado,Nevada 150 years ago .

[RMuller]

Juans are not foreign in USA, you motherfucker. Many of the first Americans were Juans.

What it is really strange is an Injun in the USA.

And, once the politically correct is gone, Americans have begun to react.


Don Juan Onate founded New Mexico and Santa Fe in 1598, 20 Years before the English arrived on Plymouth Rock.
Most of the pioneers were from Mexico and some were born in Spain.

[RMuller]

Yeah I'm sure Juans founded Harvard too

http://humanistchaplaincies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/harvard.jpg

Juans founded states like California,Texas,New Mexico,Colorado,Arizona and cities like Los Angeles, San Jose,Los Gatos,
Albuequerque,San Francisco,San Diego,San Antonio,Santa Fe,El Paso,Laredo,Tuscon,Santa Barbara,Monterrey,San Gabriel,etc etc

[EL_BARBARO]

Just look at some of the states names California,Colorado,Nevada,New Mexico "Nuevo Mexico". Cities like Los Angeles
San Francisco,San Diego,sAn Antonio, El Paso,San Jose, Santa Barbara, Santa Fe,Las Vegas,Santa Ana,Sacramento,Fresno,
Laredo,Albuquerque,Reno, etc etc.

The Spanish language was the main language in California,Arizona,Texas,New Mexico,Colorado,Nevada 150 years ago .


Don Juan Onate founded New Mexico and Santa Fe in 1598, 20 Years before the English arrived on Plymouth Rock.
Most of the pioneers were from Mexico and some were born in Spain.



Yeah, I know.

But the problem is the injun immigrant doesn't know it.

Well, he didn't even know how to shit when arriving in the USA. You can imagine about the rest of things of America or Occident.

[Leto]

I doubt Bolivians, Peruvians and Guatemalans (let alone Afro-Latinos) are better than (non-Muslim and middle/upper class) South Asians...

Don't know what this topic is doing here in the genetic section.

[EL_BARBARO]

Some people return to India but their kids come back to America, because they are American, unlike you.

"JONES: Apurna Rayaprol is a professor of sociology at the University of Hyderabad. She studies trends of Indians who return from abroad, as she herself did in the '90s. She says it used to be more of a culture shock to come back. But now, thanks to globalization...

APURNA RAYAPROL: You have Dominoes. You have Pepsi. You have Pizza Hut. You have everything here.

JONES: Technology and India's government also now make it easier than ever for Indians to come home. But down the line, Rayaprol says many ex-pat families tend to hit a crossroads. That's when kids finish high school and set their sights again toward the West.

RAYAPROL: Because they're all American-born kids with American citizenship, they'll go back to college. So are the parents going to follow them?"

Of course, as soon as they realise what kind of gigantic huge septic tank India is. Logical.

[Fractal]

I doubt Bolivians, Peruvians and Guatemalans (let alone Afro-Latinos) are better than (non-Muslim and middle/upper class) South Asians...

Don't know what this topic is doing here in the genetic section.

Not a chance in a million years.

Indians are competitive and on an equal level playing field with the most educated and affluent Whites in the USA, while Latin Americans and Black Africans are not.

In terms of the white ethnicities, the only ones that are competitive are Brits, Dutch, Germans, and Russians. The rest are as much a drag as Nigerians are.

[Fractal]

I doubt Bolivians, Peruvians and Guatemalans (let alone Afro-Latinos) are better than (non-Muslim and middle/upper class) South Asians...

Don't know what this topic is doing here in the genetic section.

Not a chance in a million years.

Indians are competitive and on an equal level playing field with the most educated whites in the USA, while Latin Americans and Black Africans are not. Most of them need affirmative action to be able to keep up.

In terms of the European immigrant ethnicities, the only ones that are competitive are Brits, Dutch, Germans, and Russians. The rest are as much a drag as Nigerians are.

And again, all net immigration including from Europe or India should come to a standstill.

[Leto]

Not a chance in a million years.

Indians are competitive and on an equal level playing field with the most educated whites in the USA, while Latin Americans and Black Africans are not. Most of them need affirmative action to be able to keep up.

In terms of the European immigrant ethnicities, the only ones that are competitive are Brits, Dutch, Germans, and Russians. The rest are as much a drag as Nigerians are.

And again, all net immigration including from Europe or India should come to a standstill.
Alright, but aren't you a first-generation American yourself?

[Fractal]

Alright, but aren't you a first-generation American yourself?

Born here to immigrant parents, so yes.

[Leto]

Born here to immigrant parents, so yes.
No, I actually thought you were Indian-born. If not, then you're a second-generation immigrant.

[turbosat]

Of course, as soon as they realise what kind of gigantic huge septic tank India is. Logical.

No, its because they have American citizenship and they can return at any time they want.

In America they have flushing toilets.. which is not always the case in Spain btw!! Didnt you claim nobody defecates outside in Spain? It seems to be quite common?

No defecating! Spanish town posts graphic signs warning pilgrims not to use historic Way of St James as a public toilet
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/travel_news/article-3046870/Spanish-town-Lastres-posts-graphic-signs-warning-pilgrims-not-use-historic-Way-St-James-public-toilet.html

A Spanish town on the Camino de Santiago pilgrimage route is warning pilgrims and other visitors to stop defecating along the famous path.
Graphic signs telling visitors not to stop for a poo break during their walk to the holy city of Santiago de Compostela, in north-western Spain, have been erected in the municipality of Lastres.
But no one knows who put up the signs, which show a squatting figure defecating within a red circle with a diagonal line across it.
In Lastres, angry residents have complained about pilgrims defecating outside their homes. The signs are posted next to warnings that urge people not to litter.

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[zhaoyun]

Not a chance in a million years.

Indians are competitive and on an equal level playing field with the most educated and affluent Whites in the USA, while Latin Americans and Black Africans are not.

In terms of the white ethnicities, the only ones that are competitive are Brits, Dutch, Germans, and Russians. The rest are as much a drag as Nigerians are.

America's tech industry is heavily reliant on Asians, particularly Chinese and Indians. If Trump wants to shut off talent from Asia, he has that imperative. Although it will guarantee that the US will start lagging behind in technology.

I'm not exaggerating either. Historically, White Europeans were the founders and creators of modern technology. But Asians (both in the US and in Asia) are taking over and will probably dominate in the future.

The idea that Europeans are more creative and innovative is pure bullshit and about to be thrown into the rubbish heap of history. Asians are just as innovative, and they have the numbers. This will increasingly be true as Asia, particularly the long dormant giants, China and India continue to industrialize and develop.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

This is one of few moves I'll have to agree with Trump, whites are sole immigrants who can assimilate faster, better and make society well functioning, but the real question which should be asked will Europeans be tempted to emigrate to US and leave their respective countries who currently are more pleasant to live in, excl. eastern euro & balkan countries.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

America's tech industry is heavily reliant on Asians, particularly Chinese and Indians. If Trump wants to shut off talent from Asia, he has that imperative. Although it will guarantee that the US will start lagging behind in technology.

I'm not exaggerating either. Historically, White Europeans were the founders and creators of modern technology. But Asians (both in the US and in Asia) are taking over and will probably dominate in the future.

The idea that Europeans are more creative and innovative is pure bullshit and about to be thrown into the rubbish heap of history. Asians are just as innovative, and they have the numbers. This will increasingly be true as Asia, particularly the long dormant giants, China and India continue to industrialize and develop.

I like Asians but foundation of US is built around Europeans, I don't think Chinese would prefer someone of different race over their own if they had colonized a territory, truth be told here.

[zhaoyun]

I like Asians but foundation of US is built around Europeans, I don't think Chinese would prefer someone of different race over their own if they had colonized a territory, truth be told here.

East Asians bring with them a great deal of talent and capital, more so than other groups including Europeans, and this is particularly going to be more true in the future, in addition, they generally assimilate very fast and cause very little crime.

To be honest, I'm not particularly concerned if immigration from Asia stopped. I am fine with the demographics the way they are. None of my relatives in China even want to come to the US, most are richer than my family. But I'm just stating facts, the future of science is going to be dominated by Asia, that's not an exaggeration.

[Smitty]

I like Asians but foundation of US is built around Europeans, I don't think Chinese would prefer someone of different race over their own if they had colonized a territory, truth be told here.

Agreed. Zhaoyun may well be right. The West is certainly in the midst of a decline, and Asia may be set to fill that vacuum. But for better or worse, I love the America of yesteryear, and I don't want it to change. Our problem is a cultural one anyway, and it won't be solved by importing Asians. Either they will adopt our vapid culture and settle into apathy like us, or they will import their culture here. Either way, America will be very different.

[The Illyrian Warrior]

East Asians bring with them a great deal of talent and capital, more so than other groups including Europeans, and this is particularly going to be more true in the future, in addition, they generally assimilate very fast and cause very little crime.

To be honest, I'm not particularly concerned if immigration from Asia stopped. I am fine with the demographics the way they are. None of my relatives in China even want to come to the US, most are richer than my family. But I'm just stating facts, the future of science is going to be dominated by Asia, that's not an exaggeration.

East Asians are hardworking, commit less crime and do well in general, I agree with all of above.....However some people in US feel threaten that their own demographic majority can be lost by other people who 40 years ago were basically non existent in US - apart of blacks and NA, but I also don't think this can be solved through this particular law since many non white countries have a good base of english speakers and Europeans ain't tempted to emigrate to a country who offers nothing better than their host country.

[zhaoyun]

East Asians are hardworking, commit less crime and do well in general, I agree with all of above.....However some people in US feel threaten that their own demographic majority can be lost by other people who 40 years ago were basically non existent in US - apart of blacks and NA, but I also don't think this can be solved through this particular law since many non white countries have a good base of english speakers and Europeans ain't tempted to emigrate to a country who offers nothing better than their host country.

Well, East Asians are a pretty small part of the US population, around 3%, so as far as a demographic threat to White Americans, it's not even close. In addition, what they contribute far outweighs their actual proportion of the population (and again, I will reiterate this, this will becoming more so the case in a couple decades).

The reality is that I do understand the concerns of some White people about losing their demographic majority. This would not be so much an issue if the non-Whites become totally assimilated into more or less the traditional White American culture, like many prior Eastern and Southern Europeans were. And this is certainly happening, but it probably takes time. I do recognize that the high standards of American civilization were more or less established by Northwestern Europeans, although not wholly but the foundation is, and I do believe that new immigrants should learn to assimilate and uphold those same standards. But it takes time for new populations to be absorbed.

[zhaoyun]

Agreed. Zhaoyun may well be right. The West is certainly in the midst of a decline, and Asia may be set to fill that vacuum. But for better or worse, I love the America of yesteryear, and I don't want it to change. Our problem is a cultural one anyway, and it won't be solved by importing Asians. Either they will adopt our vapid culture and settle into apathy like us, or they will import their culture here. Either way, America will be very different.

Most Asian Americans are pretty well assimilated. I have a few cousins who grew up in the US and are more or less my age range, I'm the only one who speaks Chinese. Most of them view China as a foreign nation and only speak English. They are vapid for sure, at the same time, their lifestyles and interests are more or less similar to most middle class White Americans.

Also, you live in South Dakota. I've been in South Dakota. The White society of South Dakota is very different than "White society" in California or the East Coast, those White populations are comprised of a great deal of Eastern and Southern European ancestries and have long created their own version of America that resembles but is different than NW European culture (which is more predominant in rural areas).

[Smitty]

Most Asian Americans are pretty well assimilated. I have a few cousins who grew up in the US and are more or less my age range, I'm the only one who speaks Chinese. Most of them view China as a foreign nation and only speak English. They are vapid for sure, at the same time, their lifestyles and interests are more or less similar to most middle class White Americans.

Also, you live in South Dakota. I've been in South Dakota. The White society of South Dakota is very different than "White society" in California or the East Coast, those White populations are comprised of a great deal of Eastern and Southern European ancestries and have long created their own version of America that resembles but is different than NW European culture (which is more predominant in rural areas).

I don't live in South Dakota. I live in Illinois, actually. So I'm very familiar with the more urban, "immigrant" white America, if you will. And it is different - not nearly as deep-rooted, conservative, or respectful of American historical realities. European immigration is not without its problems. And despite my own ties to that recent immigration, I'm not convinced that it was a good thing for America. I think it can be said at least that we took too many in at one time.

As for East Asians assimilating, it's that very assimilation that makes me think their contributions will be short-lived here. Life is (or has been) so good here that Americans are increasingly apathetic. And if that spreads to the children of these immigrants, there won't be much of a contribution, technologically or socioeconomically speaking.

[zhaoyun]

I don't live in South Dakota. I live in Illinois, actually. So I'm very familiar with the more urban, "immigrant" white America, if you will. And it is different - not nearly as deep-rooted, conservative, or respectful of American historical realities. European immigration is not without its problems. And despite my own ties to that recent immigration, I'm not convinced that it was a good thing for America. I think it can be said at least that we took too many in at one time.

As for East Asians assimilating, it's that very assimilation that makes me think their contributions will be short-lived here. Life is (or has been) so good here that Americans are increasingly apathetic. And if that spreads to the children of these immigrants, there won't be much of a contribution, technologically or socioeconomically speaking.

Well, in California at least, Asian Americans (I'm taking about the 2nd or 3rd gen Americans) still contribute disproportionately in the tech field. So as far as the academic and financial discipline, it seems to have been passed down somehow.

Anyways, I do support the increasing homogenization of the American population. Having a balkanized country is no good, and truth be told, I'd be afraid to live in a country where a majority were poor and uneducated due to uncontrolled immigration.

[Drawing-slim]

Most Asian Americans are pretty well assimilated. I have a few cousins who grew up in the US and are more or less my age range, I'm the only one who speaks Chinese. Most of them view China as a foreign nation and only speak English. They are vapid for sure, at the same time, their lifestyles and interests are more or less similar to most middle class White Americans.

Also, you live in South Dakota. I've been in South Dakota. The White society of South Dakota is very different than "White society" in California or the East Coast, those White populations are comprised of a great deal of Eastern and Southern European ancestries and have long created their own version of America that resembles but is different than NW European culture (which is more predominant in rural areas).
I think US should import only asian immigrants. Asian americans that are born here are culturally whiter than whites. Thats because most whites have have degenerated into trash and nigger ghetto culture but not asian americans. Even white immigrants from europe quickly degenerate into ghetto rap culture of dressing and talking but never asians.

[zhaoyun]

I think US should import only asian immigrants. Asian americans that are born here are culturally whiter than whites. Thats because most whites have have degenerated into trash and nigger ghetto culture but not asian americans. Even white immigrants from europe quickly degenerate into ghetto rap culture of dressing and talking but never asians.

I personally don't really care if there is more or less immigration from Asia, China in particular. It doesn't affect me, I don't need to live within an immigrant community, I'm pretty much American in mindset and behavior. It doesn't affect me personally either as I don't have any relatives that are trying to come to the US or what not.

But it's a fact that East Asians seem to value and preserve the "high culture" of Europeans more than most Whites do. Take classical music for example, it's dominated by Asian Americans. In California, most classical music orchestras are dominated by East Asian kids and the audience is full of Asian parents. While most younger White Americans are becoming more and more degenerate in their behavior and preferences.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/02/can_asians_save_classical_music_.html
Basically, East Asians are definitely not the cause of America's decline, clearly.

[Smitty]

Well, in California at least, Asian Americans (I'm taking about the 2nd or 3rd gen Americans) still contribute disproportionately in the tech field. So as far as the academic and financial discipline, it seems to have been passed down somehow.

Anyways, I do support the increasing homogenization of the American population. Having a balkanized country is no good, and truth be told, I'd be afraid to live in a country where a majority were poor and uneducated due to uncontrolled immigration.

Maybe, you're right. It will be interesting to see. Maybe it's in the blood; you know I wouldn't find that unbelievable.

I can't agree on the merging of the subpopulations. I don't want to be Brazil. If it does take place, it will require a very long time, though. Although race-mixing is on the rise, it's still by no means the norm, and I doubt it ever will be.

[Sekarotuinen]

I personally don't really care if there is more or less immigration from Asia, China in particular. It doesn't affect me, I don't need to live within an immigrant community, I'm pretty much American in mindset and behavior. It doesn't affect me personally either as I don't have any relatives that are trying to come to the US or what not.

But it's a fact that East Asians seem to value and preserve the "high culture" of Europeans more than most Whites do. Take classical music for example, it's dominated by Asian Americans. In California, most classical music orchestras are dominated by East Asian kids and the audience is full of Asian parents. While most younger White Americans are becoming more and more degenerate in their behavior and preferences.

http://www.slate.com/articles/arts/culturebox/2012/02/can_asians_save_classical_music_.html
Basically, East Asians are definitely not the cause of America's decline, clearly.That's because Asians have culturally felt the affects of nigger culture the least.

[zhaoyun]

That's because Asians have culturally felt the affects of nigger culture the least.

East Asians tend to gravitate towards high culture, whether it's classical music or academics. Many Americans when they travel to China find locals trying to relate to them by reciting Lincoln's quotes or referring to American history, whereas in many other developing countries, they'd probably just refer to pop music or fast food.

[zhaoyun]

Maybe, you're right. It will be interesting to see. Maybe it's in the blood; you know I wouldn't find that unbelievable.

I can't agree on the merging of the subpopulations. I don't want to be Brazil. If it does take place, it will require a very long time, though. Although race-mixing is on the rise, it's still by no means the norm, and I doubt it ever will be.

That's because you think it will be like Brazil with a huge underclass. If two parents are well educated, their progeny will likely be well educated and cultured regardless of their racial background.

[Smitty]

That's because you think it will be like Brazil with a huge underclass. If two parents are well educated, their progeny will likely be well educated and cultured regardless of their racial background.

Well, I don't want to be like Brazil on any level. A triracial population doesn't appeal to me, and I don't believe populations are interchangeable. But if America even survives (and I think it's doubtful, which you may not disagree with, considering what you've suggested about China and India), it will probably go that route.

[Drawing-slim]

That's because Asians have culturally felt the affects of nigger culture the least.

Its very interesting how asians could perhaps be the only racial group in america not to be affected by nigger culture. Whats even more amazing is that asians get along with everyone socially, they partake in everything but are left alone and never being acused as racist which this sick method works on whites if they dont clap and kiss ass of blacks every minute.
I think asians carry that mongol killer gene that blacks and everyone leave them alone.
Even during the famous riots in los angelos Koreans grouped together with guns and machine guns and stood their ground very heroically.

[zhaoyun]

Well, I don't want to be like Brazil on any level. A triracial population doesn't appeal to me, and I don't believe populations are interchangeable. But if America even survives (and I think it's doubtful, which you may not disagree with, considering what you've suggested about China and India), it will probably go that route.

America will certainly survive. What I meant about Asia being dominant in science is just based on pure facts, the vast population there, the number of science graduates being produced, the size and scale of economies there, investment into sciences (in China particularly, India is still quite a laggard here), just point to Asia playing a major role in scientific research and development in the century to come.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/02/the-countries-with-the-most-stem-graduates-infographic/#753303c1268a

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2017/02/20170202_STEM.jpg

Also regarding what you think about interracial mixing, we can agree to disagree. I do agree that populations are not interchangeable, but culture is also fluid. The problem is when two very divergent populations mix, some of the better cultural values can get lost. I think this can be prevented with good education. But considering the way our educational system is going, it doesn't look that promising. I don't agree with the constant promotion of multi-culturalism, I think people of all different backgrounds should be respected. At the same time, the US became a superpower because it had a superior culture. I think that culture should be ingrained in all citizens.

[jingorex]

Holy Fuck this is the BEST president ever in the history of my life.

https://media.giphy.com/media/iogWJLZjlp3kQ/giphy.gif

[Smitty]

America will certainly survive. What I meant about Asia being dominant in science is just based on pure facts, the vast population there, the number of science graduates being produced, the size and scale of economies there, investment into sciences (in China particularly, India is still quite a laggard here), just point to Asia playing a major role in scientific research and development in the century to come.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2017/02/02/the-countries-with-the-most-stem-graduates-infographic/#753303c1268a

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/niallmccarthy/files/2017/02/20170202_STEM.jpg

Also regarding what you think about interracial mixing, we can agree to disagree. I do agree that populations are not interchangeable, but culture is also fluid. The problem is when two very divergent populations mix, some of the better cultural values can get lost. I think this can be prevented with good education. But considering the way our educational system is going, it doesn't look that promising. I don't agree with the constant promotion of multi-culturalism, I think people of all different backgrounds should be respected. At the same time, the US became a superpower because it had a superior culture. I think that culture should be ingrained in all citizens.

I don't disagree with regard to East Asia. Even if one put complete stock in IQ (and I don't, although I do believe it is a factor in culture and civilization and, to a degree, a function of race), it's obvious that Japan, Korea, and China have immense potential. And they're tapping into it, to their benefit. This will naturally have a negative effect on the West, if we do nothing to keep ourselves in play. And with a decrease in wealth and power, I think our diversity will divide us further - before it can eliminate itself.

We agree on multiculturalism. It is a force for ill, no doubt about it. And if America wants to be a pluralistic society, she will fail. We have three options: a merging, a multi-party divorce, or a forced homogenization (meaning one group taking power and expelling all others). But we've already largely lost our superior culture. Its effects and some of its more superficial characteristics still remain. But the work ethic, the individuality, the pride and optimism, are largely dead. Even if culture can be transmitted to entirely different peoples, what culture is left to transmit? Yes, I'm an Eeyore by nature, if you're wondering.

[Drawing-slim]

No matter what in 3000-5000 years all humans will have all the same skin color and phenotype. DNA by this time will be distributed evenly in every single individual.

[Wadaad]

Its very interesting how asians could perhaps be the only racial group in america not to be affected by nigger culture. Whats even more amazing is that asians get along with everyone socially, they partake in everything but are left alone and never being acused as racist which this sick method works on whites if they dont clap and kiss ass of blacks every minute.
I think asians carry that mongol killer gene that blacks and everyone leave them alone.
Even during the famous riots in los angelos Koreans grouped together with guns and machine guns and stood their ground very heroically.

You havent heard of the Hmong, Cambodian and Vietnamese gangs in Cali?

[MissMischief]

Does Trump know that Islam is the official religion in Pakistan? I think he may be very surprised with the outcome of this bill :D

There are a lot of highly educated Pakistanis that speak native English and who would be key beneficiaries of such a system. Indians too for that matter. But Trump is famously anti-Muslim, so I am not sure that he has thought through the implications here if he is concerned about Muslim immigration.

[Kamal900]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates#Ap ostasy



https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/12/13-countries-where-atheism-punishable-death/355961/

The countries that impose these penalties are Afghanistan, Iran, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Nigeria, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, United Arab Emirates and Yemen. With the exception of Pakistan, those countries all allow for capital punishment against apostasy, i.e., the renunciation of a particular religion. Pakistan, meanwhile, imposes the death penalty for blasphemy, which can obviously include disbelief in God.


https://www.rt.com/news/310471-uae-bans-insulting-god/

https://unitedyouthjournalists.com/2015/05/28/the-other-side-of-dubai-%E2%80%92-mehmet-yilmaz-the-uae/



https://unitedyouthjournalists.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/d984d982d8b7d8a9-d8a7d984d8b4d8a7d8b4d8a9-5.png

I was saying that apostasy is not punishable by execution like in Saudi Arabia, that's all.

[Kamal900]

Does Trump know that Islam is the official religion in Pakistan? I think he may be very surprised with the outcome of this bill :D

There are a lot of highly educated Pakistanis that speak native English and who would be key beneficiaries of such a system. Indians too for that matter. But Trump is famously anti-Muslim, so I am not sure that he has thought through the implications here if he is concerned about Muslim immigration.

It's easier to attack Muslims than the (((chosen people of god))) that are ruling American with an iron fist, yes.

[Drawing-slim]

You havent heard of the Hmong, Cambodian and Vietnamese gangs in Cali?
Nope. But a gang here and there does not have much impact on the culture and whole.

[Morena]

What was this thread about again? I have quite forgotten...

[Drawing-slim]

What was this thread about again? I have quite forgotten...

The thread is about genetics. If you have 80% or more european autosomal dna and speak english, you can become american citizen. If you wish of course.

[Morena]

The thread is about genetics. If you have 80% or more european autosomal dna and speak english, you can become american citizen. If you wish of course.

Haha. I pass! Yes!

that Fractal..haha

[Fractal]

Haha. I pass! Yes!

that Fractal..haha

haha like I care. I'm happy being 100% South Asian Gujarati Patel.

[AryanGujaratiLady]

haha like I care. I'm happy being 100% South Asian Gujarati Patel.

You stole the account of Fractal your mexican wetback/white trash/spic/balkanite/olive greaser/armenoid/latino.

[Fractal]

Its very interesting how asians could perhaps be the only racial group in america not to be affected by nigger culture. Whats even more amazing is that asians get along with everyone socially, they partake in everything but are left alone and never being acused as racist which this sick method works on whites if they dont clap and kiss ass of blacks every minute.
I think asians carry that mongol killer gene that blacks and everyone leave them alone.
Even during the famous riots in los angelos Koreans grouped together with guns and machine guns and stood their ground very heroically.

LOL sorry but this is 100% false east Asians here in America mostly vote Democrat and are usually pro multicultural and pro immigration. Lol if you think the Chinese and Koreans here identify with White America. most of them want more Latino immigration and more Asian numbers too.

[Fractal]

You stole the account of Fractal your mexican wetback/white trash/spic/balkanite/olive greaser/armenoid/latino.

You're an obvious sock. But i agree fuck all those groups

[Smitty]

You stole the account of Fractal your mexican wetback/white trash/spic/balkanite/olive greaser/armenoid/latino.

Did you have a sex change, Ross?

[Fractal]

Did you have a sex change, Ross?

obviously a sock. not me

[zhaoyun]

I don't disagree with regard to East Asia. Even if one put complete stock in IQ (and I don't, although I do believe it is a factor in culture and civilization and, to a degree, a function of race), it's obvious that Japan, Korea, and China have immense potential. And they're tapping into it, to their benefit. This will naturally have a negative effect on the West, if we do nothing to keep ourselves in play. And with a decrease in wealth and power, I think our diversity will divide us further - before it can eliminate itself.

We agree on multiculturalism. It is a force for ill, no doubt about it. And if America wants to be a pluralistic society, she will fail. We have three options: a merging, a multi-party divorce, or a forced homogenization (meaning one group taking power and expelling all others). But we've already largely lost our superior culture. Its effects and some of its more superficial characteristics still remain. But the work ethic, the individuality, the pride and optimism, are largely dead. Even if culture can be transmitted to entirely different peoples, what culture is left to transmit? Yes, I'm an Eeyore by nature, if you're wondering.

Asia will become a central force in global science, this is inevitable. The only reason why it wasn't before in the modern era was because their societies were sleeping. Japan was the first to "awaken", then South Korea and the small ethno Chinese states such as Taiwan, HK, Singapore. Now the monstrous Asian empire of China is awakening and it's about to shake the world. My point in bringing that up is that Chinese immigrants generally bring a great deal of talent and capital with them, and they produce a great deal in their new societies as well. This will increasingly be the case as China industrializes and the general quality of its population improves rapidly.

This was going to happen regardless if the US stays competitive or falls into decline. The fact is that the US is still far superior to Asia in many facets of its society, and most likely will remain superior in many facets and in per capita terms. But due to the enormous gravitational pull of Asia's massive population (unmatched by any other continent) and powerful vibrancy, all of these factors are centering Asia in the middle of the global scientific world like a powerful magnet.

Regarding the future of the US, I do believe that increasingly, the population will integrate. Just like in the past when various European populations melded into a general White identity, I do believe that over generations, the different minority groups and Whites will continually integrate into a general American identity.