Nicholas T E S L A was an Indoeuropean too - The R1-a-M458-CTS11962 one.

[Сербо Макеридов]

You call Greeks anatolians , you need to be fucked for that.
Yeah Albanians are better than you pussies and with our support would fuck all of you

You're first started this strife.

This is Albanian opinion about Greeks and Greece


https://youtu.be/WaOBGrpopLs

https://youtu.be/eO9N53WZH4E

[Сербо Макеридов]

You call Greeks anatolians , you need to be fucked for that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappadocian_Greeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

[epirot]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappadocian_Greeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

There are a lot of good people among the Greeks of Asia Minor. Pontians, Smyrniotes, etc. Also a lot of TRUE Greeks from Crete (not Lavrentis, he is an Arab), RODOS (great people) and of course Cyprus (the truest and greatest of all Greeks) *LOVE* SLAVS.

Can't claim the same about those grekophones in central/southern mainland Greece....

Athens was chosen as a capital by the west for a very good reason.

[Сербо Макеридов]

There are a lot of good people among the Greeks of Asia Minor. Pontians, Smyrniotes, etc. Also a lot of TRUE Greeks from Crete (not Lavrentis, he is an Arab), RODOS (great people) and of course Cyprus (the truest and greatest of all Greeks) *LOVE* SLAVS.

Can't claim the same about those grekophones in central/southern mainland Greece....

Athens was chosen as a capital by the west for a very good reason.

Lavrentis and DarknessWin dislake Anatolian Greeks, they claims that Anatolian Greeks are helenized Anatolians and not real Greeks.

Lavrentis was mark Anatolian Greeks that they are lowers of Serbs and together with Serbs Orthodox fanatics.

[epirot]

Lavrentis and DarknessWin dislake Anatolian Greeks, they claims that Anatolian Greeks are helenized Anatolians and not real Greeks.

Lavrentis was mark Anatolian Greeks that they are lowers of Serbs and together with Serbs Orthodox fanatics.

the more albanian and false greek they are, the louder they bark and the most they hate SLAVS and true Greeks.

[catgeorge]

Very big concrete wall required on North Greek borders. I will take out a loan to fund the project and hire best lawyers in the world to lobby the beaurocrats of EU to make it happen.

[Сербо Макеридов]

the more albanian and false greek they are, the louder they bark and the most they hate SLAVS and true Greeks.

Why are modern Greeks so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.

[catgeorge]

Why modern Greeks are so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.

We are not anti-Slavic far from it. It's that we find many of you conniving to the point where pan-slavism has hurt the Greek state right up to WW2 with Serbian bolsheviks funding Greek communists that caused destruction in North Greece.

[epirot]

Why are modern Greeks so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.
yup

[epirot]

Very big concrete wall required on North Greek borders. I will take out a loan to fund the project and hire best lawyers in the world to lobby the beaurocrats of EU to make it happen.

very big chain tied locked to your hands and feet. That's what is needed.
BTW beaurocrats in EU don't take orders from their lap dogs.

[catgeorge]

Why are modern Greeks so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.

We kicked muslim Albanians out of Greece and they continue to cry today. Greece needs to build a very large wall to keep undesirables out my little mexicans.

[catgeorge]

very big chain tied locked to your hands and feet. That's what is needed.
BTW beaurocrats in EU don't take orders from their lap dogs.

There is nothing wrong not wanting nothing much to do with undesirables.

[Сербо Макеридов]

We are not anti-Slavic far from it. It's that we find many of you conniving to the point where pan-slavism has hurt the Greek state right up to WW2 with Serbian bolsheviks funding Greek communists that caused destruction in North Greece.

Greeks Nazis claims that Slavs are subhumans and invaders of Greek land.

They are very anti-Serbian and anti-Russian, and they claims that Greeks are superior race of Zeus and Apollo, creators of world civilization and all others including Slavs are subhumans for them.

Many Serbs who have stayed in Greece for longer time (not as turists), say that majority of Greeks do not like foreigners including and Serbs regardless of the Orthodoxy and historical relations between two nations.

[catgeorge]

Greeks Nazis claims that Slavs are subhumans and invaders of Greek land.

They are very anti-Serbian and anti-Russian, and they claims that Greeks are superior race of Zeus and Apollo and all others including Slavs are subhumans for them.

Many Serbs who have stayed i then Greece for longer time (not as turists), say that majority of Greeks do not like foreigners including and Serbs regardless of the Orthodoxy and historical relations between two nations.


Greek Nazis does not exist... they are Nationalists.

Greeks dislike all foreigners full stop even Azov Greeks, Cypriots etc you have no idea what mainlanders think.. Greeks are extremely friendly people to tourists.. Greece is not a multicultarilst new world nation - the land belongs to the Greeks.

[epirot]

Greeks Nazis claims that Slavs are subhumans and invaders of Greek land.

They are very anti-Serbian and anti-Russian, and they claims that Greeks are superior race of Zeus and Apollo, creators of world civilization and all others including Slavs are subhumans for them.

Many Serbs who have stayed in Greece for longer time (not as turists), say that majority of Greeks do not like foreigners including and Serbs regardless of the Orthodoxy and historical relations between two nations.

Yes, they pretend to like Serbs till they hear their language or some Serb talking, then automatically they want to mute them. I'd say 80% of GrekoVlahs believe Serbs/Slavs are inferior, despite the fact that for every modern aspect of life those VlahoGreeks are actually 500 yrs behind the Serbs/Bulgarians. (and behind Rodos/Cyprus as well).

[epirot]

Greek Nazis does not exist... they are Nationalists.

Greeks dislike all foreigners full stop even Azov Greeks, Cypriots etc you have no idea what mainlanders think.. Greeks are extremely friendly people to tourists.. Greece is not a multicultarilst new world nation - the land belongs to the Greeks.

The fact that the false Greeks hate TRUE GREEKS (Cypriots) is no news.

[catgeorge]

The fact that the false Greeks hate TRUE GREEKS (Cypriots) is no news.

Not all of us hate them - I like them very much and strongly feel they are a part of the Greek state. But some Greeks are more protectionist than me.

We still call Anatolian Greeks φιλοξενουμενοι in the North.

[catgeorge]

Yes, they pretend to like Serbs till they hear their language or some Serb talking, then automatically they want to mute them. I'd say 80% of GrekoVlahs believe Serbs/Slavs are inferior, despite the fact that for every modern aspect of life those VlahoGreeks are actually 500 yrs behind the Serbs/Bulgarians. (and behind Rodos/Cyprus as well).

We pretend nothing we say it straight out - if Serbia is in trouble again we will support them again but doesnt detract their national flaws. Pan slavism has hurt the Greek state and slavs have done thing for Greece......nothing positive at all. AT ALL.

What's so hard to understand?

[epirot]

Now my friend Serbo you see the programming that has taken place in their minds :

When they curse against Slavs 24x7 then this is normal.
When they do something worse, then they are good patriots.
When they even dare to not curse and insult them, then they are traitors (like me). And then they start with personal attacks, threats, etc.... Unfortunately that this the level.

[epirot]

We pretend nothing we say it straight out - if Serbia is in trouble again we will support them again but doesnt detract their national flaws. Pan slavism has hurt the Greek state and slavs have done thing for Greece......nothing positive at all. AT ALL.

What's so hard to understand?

it is hard to understand how ignorant you are.

[catgeorge]

it is hard to understand how ignorant you are.

I have seen them - if it wasn't for Greeks would anyone be helping them? Russians sure don't give a shit.

Did Serbs go and fight for Ukrained or Russia in the most recent war... they claim they come from Ukraine did any of them help Ukranians?

Ignorant is you

[Сербо Макеридов]

We pretend nothing we say it straight out - if Serbia is in trouble again we will support them again but doesnt detract their national flaws. Pan slavism has hurt the Greek state and slavs have done thing for Greece......nothing positive at all. AT ALL.

What's so hard to understand?

I do not know who represent average Greek views you or DarknessWins/Lavrentis?

[catgeorge]

I do not know who represent avarage Greek views you or DarknessWins/Lavrentis?

What does it matter

Darknesswins is pro-Balkan but strongly dislikes this distrust being broken at any level whatsoever. Trust needs to be earned and he is the type of soul that will give anything a chance to build that trust but if you fuck it up it goes all mental.

Lavrentis is strong anti-Easterner - Zeus was born in Crete and he is the sperm of Zeus.

Me - I just know what damage the slavs have done to the Greek state. Whether Bulgarians attacking unnarmed villagers or Russians helping Turks or Serbs playing a part in the destruction of North Greece

Not to say you don't have a very good side because you people definitely do.

[epirot]

I have seen them - if it wasn't for Greeks would anyone be helping them? Russians sure don't give a shit.

Did Serbs go and fight for Ukrained or Russia in the most recent war... they claim they come from Ukraine did any of them help Ukranians?

Ignorant is you

Greeks didn't help the Serbs. Greeks helped NATO with their bases in bosnian war. Also Greeks helped NATO in the kosovo war.
Who claimed is coming from Ukraine? Cut the crap.

About Ukraine and the Serbian help in this war:

http://fokuspress.com/u-fokusu/3227-bratislav-zivkovic-sindelic-nije-bio-na-listi-za-odlazak-u-ukrajinu-od-rusije-sam-dobio-oreden-za-povratak-krima-video

[epirot]

What does it matter

Darknesswins is pro-Balkan but strongly dislikes this distrust being broken at any level whatsoever. Trust needs to be earned and he is the type of soul that will give anything a chance to build that trust but if you fuck it up it goes all mental.

Lavrentis is strong anti-Easterner - Zeus was born in Crete and he is the sperm of Zeus.

Me - I just know what damage the slavs have done to the Greek state. Whether Bulgarians attacking unnarmed villagers or Russians helping Turks or Serbs playing a part in the destruction of North Greece

Not to say you don't have a very good side because you people definitely do.

darkness pro-balkan??? gotta be kidding , you ppl have lost any sense of measure.

[catgeorge]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5107W0XYAHL._SX324_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg


As the only member of NATO and the European Union to support Slobodan Milosevic's regime in the conflict following the breakup of Yugoslavia, Greece broke ranks with its Western allies, frustrating their efforts to impose sanctions against Serbia. Distinguished Greek journalist Takis Michas covered the war in the Balkans during the 1990s and saw at first hand the effects of Greek support for Serbia. In this gripping account, he follows Greek-Serbian relations and tackles the difficult question of how the Greek people could ignore Serbian aggression and war crimes.

The pro-Serbian stance taken by Athens shocked many who assumed that all members of NATO would follow the lead of the United States and the United Nations. Instead, Greece supported Serbia from the outbreak of war in the former Yugoslavia in 1991 through the NATO bombing and occupation of Kosovo eight years later. Mikas combines journalistic accounts with anecdotes and personal interviews to show a pattern of Greek support for Milosevic and Radovan Karadzic that implicates Greek politicians from all parties, as well as the Greek Orthodox Church, the Greek media, and ultimately the Greek people themselves.

To explain this extensive disregard of human rights violations in Bosnia and Kosovo, Michas looks beyond the common invocation of shared Orthodox religion. More important, he believes, is the shared ideology of ethnic nationalism, which precludes multiculturalism and a viable civil society. Greece could ignore gross human rights violations in Bosnia or Kosovo, Michas argues, because they could be written off as unfortunate byproducts of the higher goal of ethnic purity. He demonstrates as well the importance of the rise of Orthodox fundamentalism and the place of conspiracy theories in the discourse of Greek nationalism. Finally, he provides an analysis of contemporary anti-American sentiments in Greece and elsewhere, which he argues express new political and ideological realities.

The evidence and conclusions presented in this imminently readable book will disturb those who believe that a new liberal order replaced the ideological standoff of the Cold War, but they will not surprise those who suspect that older allegiances have now claimed the loyalties of many of the world's peoples.


No one helped Serbs more than Greeks - never forget that.

[catgeorge]

darkness pro-balkan??? gotta be kidding , you ppl have lost any sense of measure.

Yes he is - but you are retarded and making us hate Balkaners - because of you

[epirot]

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5107W0XYAHL._SX324_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg



No one helped Serbs more than Greeks - never forget that.

LMAO at your ignorance ... And you present us the book of the biggest anti-Serb Michas???? LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Find me a PRO-SERBIAN book if you can!!! HAHAHAHAH you ppl are so funny!

ONLY RUSSIANS HELPED SERBS AND VARIOUS OTHER SLAVS, BULGARIANS, MAKEDONIANS.

When distortion of reality is at stake you ppl are second to none.

[epirot]

Yes he is - but you are retarded and making us hate Balkaners - because of you

no little rat, you want to imagine Balkanians are inferior animals that you can control and take advantage of.... when in reality you are 1000 yrs behind them in everything.....
Those Balkanians as you fantacize them DO NOT EXIST..

The whole Serbo-Greek joke was built upon submission of Serbs to the Gods of Olympus the great ancient Greeks.....
Maybe those british masterminds that conceived the plan, maybe they had in mind to Grekify the Serbs, putting them in the same state and then slowly starting to remove their culture, language , etc..... I am sure this was the initial plan.

not gonna happen....

[Laberia]

What does it matter

Darknesswins is pro-Balkan but strongly dislikes this distrust being broken at any level whatsoever. Trust needs to be earned and he is the type of soul that will give anything a chance to build that trust but if you fuck it up it goes all mental.

Lavrentis is strong anti-Easterner - Zeus was born in Crete and he is the sperm of Zeus.

Me - I just know what damage the slavs have done to the Greek state. Whether Bulgarians attacking unnarmed villagers or Russians helping Turks or Serbs playing a part in the destruction of North Greece

Not to say you don't have a very good side because you people definitely do.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdKcCWE6x40

[Dimos]

Why are modern Greeks so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.

It is because of the many crimes Slavs committed against the Greeks, since their arrival in the 6th-7 th century.
It is because Panslavism targets Greek soil. Slavs always wanted access to the Aegean cost.
It is because you never helped us when we were in need, on the contrary you backstabbed us on the Fyrom issue bei recognising them as "Macedonians". This is what we get in return for our solidarity.

[epirot]

It is because of the many crimes, Slavs committed against the Greeks, since their arrival in the 6th-7 th century.
It is because Panslavism targets Greek soil. Slavs always wanted access to the Aegean cost.
It is because you never helped us when we were in need, on the contrary you backstabbed us on the Fyrom issue bei recognising them as "Macedonians". This is what we get in return for our solidarity.

1) BS Slavs never arrived. Slavs were ALWAYS HERE. Of course pseudo Greeks with western help sent them away post 1800AD
2) Panslavism does not exist. Unfortunately.
3) Serbs always helped Greeks, during fires, during wars (WWI the greatest example), many SLAVS took part of the war against Turks, etc.... On the contrary when the great floods had happened in Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia in 2014 then the greko zombies did not notice , till BBC finally decided to talk..... LOL
4) Greeko spoiled kidos equate a STOLEN LAND with a debatable NAME....


....

5) When smth happens in Greece, SERBIAN papers immediately report.... When smth happens in Serbia, greeks do not write nothing, unless of course BBC/CNN mentions smth...
6) .... the list goes on

Serbo my friend , you cannot talk with them... simply

[Dimos]

1) BS Slavs never arrived. Slavs were ALWAYS HERE. Of course pseudo Greeks with western help sent them away post 1800AD
2) Panslavism does not exist. Unfortunately.
3) Serbs always helped Greeks, during fires, during wars (WWI the greatest example), many SLAVS took part of the war against Turks, etc.... On the contrary when the great floods had happened in Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia in 2014 then the greko zombies did not notice , till BBC finally decided to talk..... LOL
4) Greeko spoiled kidos equate a STOLEN LAND with a debatable NAME....


....

5) When smth happens in Greece, SERBIAN papers immediately report.... When smth happens in Serbia, greeks do not write nothing, unless of course BBC/CNN mentions smth...
6) .... the list goes on

Serbo my friend , you cannot talk with them... simply

Slavs arrived in the 6th-7 th century, that is well documented by contemporary sources, long before the "Anglosaxon" propaganda. That is the status quo today, accepted by slavs themselves. Until you and Dederic can bring up solid evidence, other than 3000 Slavic toponyms lol, that prove otherwise, we lough at your claims. They arrived in the middle ages and they had no friendly intensions.
Panslavism is a failed dream and hopefully will never revive again .
How did the Serbs help us in the WWI ? When and where?
Slavs took part in the war against the Turks for their own benefit, you know access in the Aegean at the cost of the Greeks. If you mean the Revolution of 1821, I am not aware of any Slav Philellenes, at least not in the numbers of western Europeans.
Wich stolen land do you mean, mounopano? Like I said in another thread, real Macedonians, like my family, are proud of tearing communistic and slavic asses apart in Grammos, Florina and Kastoria, with the help of our allies ( the British and Americans) and kicking them out of Greek territory.
Now you can count the times we helped their sorry asses, beginning with the Serbian retreat from Thessaloniki to Corfu, to the recent Wars against the Albanians ( no Greek troops participated in the NATO forces, no bases given, Sebrennica, something I am ashamed of), to refraining from recognising Kosovo as a free country. And the list goes on.

[Laberia]

During the war against the Ottomans, all the slavs escaped like whores. The only who continued the war were the Albanians.

[Dimos]

Greeks helped (a bit) in WWI by obeying orders from mama England.

Even the 1991-1995 pseudo Serb-greek "alliance" was an english hoax, only 100 greeks and no one really fought...

Why should we fight for the Serbs? Can you give us one good reason?
When did the Serbs fight for the Greeks?

[epirot]

Why should we fight for the Serbs? Can you give us one good reason?
When did the Serbs fight for the Greeks?

I told you IDIOT in WWI. Serbs did all the fighting for your ..... allies ...

[Dimos]

I told you IDIOT in WWI. Serbs did all the fighting for your ..... allies ...

Due to your slavolagnia, you are exaggerating again.
They fought for their own matters and benefits, not for the sake of the Greeks. Most probably they fought because their commanding French general, ordered them to do so. I still do not see the altruism. The French and the British fought more battles in the Macedonian front, than the serbs. I guess should also fight for them.
Lol, military actions in the frame of a larger alliance are seen as an act of altruism and friendship and we should be grateful to the Serbs, but God forbid if we are thankful to the British or the French, claims our little slavic ball licker. But that is how it is. If there is nothing to say, no other evidence you have to grasp at a straw to make a point

[epirot]

"The French and the British fought more battles in the Macedonian front, than the serbs. I guess should also fight for them."

signature material ...

[Dimos]

"The French and the British fought more battles in the Macedonian front, than the serbs. I guess should also fight for them."

signature material ...

Tsibuki material malaka, again

[catgeorge]

I told you IDIOT in WWI. Serbs did all the fighting for your ..... allies ...

They werent our allies.

Greece was neutral in WW1

Germans wanted Greece to join them - the Italians and French kicked Greek army out of North Epirus because it was neutral on 23/8 1916 and then Italians proclaimed it as a satellite

Greece joined the allies in 1917 - Serbia was on allies side from the beginning. Greece was neutral until it had to withdraw its troops from North Epirus when Franchet d'Esperey the French general brokered a deal to join the allies as Bulgars attack Greece and Greece agreed to the evacuation of Serb forces could go to Greece. You know nooothing.

[Dimos]

They werent our allies.

Greece was neutral in WW1

Germans wanted Greece to join them - the Italians and French kicked Greek army out of North Epirus because it was neutral on 23/8 1916 and then Italians proclaimed it as a satellite

Greece joined the allies in 1917 - Serbia was on allies side from the beginning. Greece was neutral until it had to withdraw its troops from North Epirus when Franchet d'Esperey the French general brokered a deal to join the allies as Bulgars attack Greece and Greece agreed to the evacuation of Serb forces could go to Greece. You know nooothing.

But "they helped the Greeks", even though the Greeks were not yet involved in the war. Epirots´brainfuck

[Laberia]

I told you IDIOT in WWI. Serbs did all the fighting for your ..... allies ...

For the greeks malaka, forget the "allies". One is ally today, tomorrow is no more and maybe is an enemy.
Russians betrayed the so-called Orlov Revolt. All the "brave" balkanites, of course including your slavs escaped in the battle of Dragashani. Tsar Alexander blamed Ypsilanti because he spoke in the name of the Tsar. Only Georgake and Pharmaki fought until the end, bitch.
Georgake Olimpi was an Vlach, some Albanians claim that he was an Albanian. Personally i think he was Vlach.
Meanwhile Pharmaki was Albanian.
Again, Albanians and Vlachs, noon of the other "brave" balkanites.

[Laberia]

They werent our allies.

Greece was neutral in WW1

Germans wanted Greece to join them - the Italians and French kicked Greek army out of North Epirus because it was neutral on 23/8 1916 and then Italians proclaimed it as a satellite

Greece joined the allies in 1917 - Serbia was on allies side from the beginning. Greece was neutral until it had to withdraw its troops from North Epirus when Franchet d'Esperey the French general brokered a deal to join the allies as Bulgars attack Greece and Greece agreed to the evacuation of Serb forces could go to Greece. You know nooothing.
Greece was a joke in WWI.

[catgeorge]

Greece was a joke in WWI.

Yes it was - had a massive schism between Venizlos and Constantine I

One wanted to be with Allies the other with Germans...in the end skata fagame.

[Laberia]

Yes it was - had a massive schism between Venizlos and Constantine I

One wanted to be with Allies the other with Germans...in the end skata fagame.

Even in the WWII was the same, but at least British provided to kill Metaxa.

[Dimos]

Greece was a joke in WWI.

Albania was not existant in the WWI. Hey Albanian army was not existant in any war.
Alabnia was the place where fighting armies in the WWI could get a rest and empty their balls. Something like the brothel of the neighbourhood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania_during_World_War_I

[Laberia]

Albania was not existant in the WWI. Hey Albanian army was not existant in any war.
Alabnia was the place where fighting armies in the WWI could get a rest and empty their balls. Something like the brothel of the neighbourhood
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albania_during_World_War_I

Meanwhile Greece was a brothel for 30 years. It's called Greek Civil War. About the story of the balls, it's better for you to cut the crap, believe me.

[catgeorge]

Even in the WWII was the same, but at least British provided to kill Metaxa.

WWII was glorious.

That - can never be taken away from us.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-for-the-sake-of-historical-truth-i-must-verify-that-only-the-greeks-of-all-the-adversaries-adolf-hitler-55-12-29.jpg

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/greeks-in-world-war-ii-24419/95/greeks-in-world-war-ii-10-728.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/60078fe220fd8aaadd190c14d62450aa/tumblr_og6m4fs0tO1vd38rzo1_400.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/63/d2/54/63d25438e1b3faa17f5f59e69e7a9de7--greek-sayings-greek-warrior.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3xgyPgcTFRA/hqdefault.jpg

[Dimos]

Yes it was - had a massive schism between Venizlos and Constantine I

One wanted to be with Allies the other with Germans...in the end skata fagame.

We did not eat any shit. We had territorial gains after the war. We had the treaty of Serves and our military bonds to the west became deeper.

[Dimos]

Meanwhile Greece was a brothel for 30 years. It's called Greek Civil War. About the story of the balls, it's better for you to cut the crap, believe me.
But our brothel was and still is better than yours. We always had better costumers. :p

[katniss]

......something I am ashamed of), to refraining from recognising Kosovo as a free country. And the list goes on.


You are ashamed because Greece did not recognize mafia state Kosovo as a "free country"???? :picard1:
You are not the Greek. It seems to me you are some grecizied Albanian. Epirot is FYRM-omanian.
So, quarrel between FYRM-omanian pretending to be Serb and Albanian pretending to be Greek.

[catgeorge]

We did not eat any shit. We had territorial gains after the war. We had the treaty of Serves and our military bonds to the west became deeper.

..and lost North Epiros

[epirot]

They werent our allies.

Greece was neutral in WW1

Germans wanted Greece to join them - the Italians and French kicked Greek army out of North Epirus because it was neutral on 23/8 1916 and then Italians proclaimed it as a satellite

Greece joined the allies in 1917 - Serbia was on allies side from the beginning. Greece was neutral until it had to withdraw its troops from North Epirus when Franchet d'Esperey the French general brokered a deal to join the allies as Bulgars attack Greece and Greece agreed to the evacuation of Serb forces could go to Greece. You know nooothing.


You pitiful rats, Serbia lost 1M MALE citizens while your Greece almost nothing. Serbia gained Yugoslavia, Greece gained DOUBLE the territories ....

seems fair right?

[Laberia]

WWII was glorious.

That - can never be taken away from us.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-for-the-sake-of-historical-truth-i-must-verify-that-only-the-greeks-of-all-the-adversaries-adolf-hitler-55-12-29.jpg

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/greeks-in-world-war-ii-24419/95/greeks-in-world-war-ii-10-728.jpg

http://68.media.tumblr.com/60078fe220fd8aaadd190c14d62450aa/tumblr_og6m4fs0tO1vd38rzo1_400.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/63/d2/54/63d25438e1b3faa17f5f59e69e7a9de7--greek-sayings-greek-warrior.jpg

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3xgyPgcTFRA/hqdefault.jpg

Sure, keep playing with quotes.

The Battle of Thermopylae.
The absence of the Greek Army, from a battle at a site as significant to the national psyche as Thermopylae, was later controversial within Greece. After the war, Aris Velouchiotis – a veteran of the 1941 campaign and leader of the Greek People's Liberation Army – argued that this fact was an eternal "shame" for the Greek regime that had been defeated by the Axis powers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae_(1941))

You as a nation, has to wash the feet to the British and later to drink that water.

[epirot]

You are ashamed becouse Greece did not recognize mafia state Kosovo as a "free country"???? :picard1:
You are not the Greek.
It is seems to me you are some grecizied Albanian.
Epirot is FYRM - omanian. So, quareel between FYRM-anian pretending to to Serb and Albanian pretending to be Greek.

I am not from FYROM unfortunately. Neither Serb.

[Dimos]

You pitiful rats, Serbia lost 1M MALE citizens while your Greece almost nothing. Serbia gained Yugoslavia, Greece gained DOUBLE the territories ....

seems fair right?

So much about the so called superior intelligence of the Slavs :D

[Laberia]

But our brothel was and still is better than yours. We always had better costumers. :p

You have a strong master, GB. They provide everything for you. From the liberation of your country, debts, everything. Bow your head toward them.

[catgeorge]

You pitiful rats, Serbia lost 1M MALE citizens while your Greece almost nothing. Serbia gained Yugoslavia, Greece gained DOUBLE the territories ....

seems fair right?

We wanted nothing to do with the war unless we were attacked - we were just interested fortifying North Epiros

[Dimos]

"You are ashamed because Greece did not recognize mafia state Kosovo as a "free country"???? :picard1:
You are not the Greek. It seems to me you are some grecizied Albanian. Epirot is FYRM - omanian. So, quarrel between FYRM-anyone pretending to to Serb and Albanian pretending to be Greek.

No, what I am ashamed of, is that Greeks participated at Sebrenica, not because we did not recognise Kosovo

[catgeorge]

Sure, keep playing with quotes.

The Battle of Thermopylae.
The absence of the Greek Army, from a battle at a site as significant to the national psyche as Thermopylae, was later controversial within Greece. After the war, Aris Velouchiotis – a veteran of the 1941 campaign and leader of the Greek People's Liberation Army – argued that this fact was an eternal "shame" for the Greek regime that had been defeated by the Axis powers. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Thermopylae_(1941))

You as a nation, has to wash the feet to the British and later to drink that water.

All the leaders praised Greece's role in that war - including the cleansing of undesirable mexicans that dwelled upon it once upon a time.

[epirot]

So much about the so called superior intelligence of the Slavs :D

Slavs respect their deals and fight for their country. This is not clever to some .... rats.... apparently rats have another definition of .... intelligence :

[epirot]

No, what I am ashamed of, is that Greeks participated at Sebrenica, not because we did not recognise Kosovo

this BS greeks were serving as PR in Bosnia.

[Dimos]

You have a strong master, GB. They provide everything for you. From the liberation of your country, debts, everything. Bow your head toward them.

I know, that is why I love them ( the British). But you are on the right path as well, since you started sucking American dick.

[catgeorge]

You have a strong master, GB. They provide everything for you. From the liberation of your country, debts, everything. Bow your head toward them.

It was the British that bought the Germans to Greece when the Brits landed in Thessaloniki uninvited after we defeated the Italians. They fucked us up... it was only right they stood and fought.

Greece is always on the high-end of diplomacy and always had the right allies... UK + USA will never let Greece out of its sights.

[Laberia]

You are ashamed because Greece did not recognize mafia state Kosovo as a "free country"???? :picard1:
You are not the Greek. It seems to me you are some grecizied Albanian. Epirot is FYRM-omanian.
So, quarrel between FYRM-omanian pretending to be Serb and Albanian pretending to be Greek.

Well come back my hot serboula rv12anal.
No, Dimçe is an hellenised vulgar. Meanwhile epirot is a complicated case. He is the son of a whore and he can't tell who is his father.
BTW, he continues his family tradition. He is married with a serboula, a hard working woman. This is the reason of his sympathy for servs. She push the button from Odos Fylis and he react immediately like a beaten dog.

[Dimos]

Slavs respect their deals and fight for their country. This is not clever to some .... rats.... apparently rats have another definition of .... intelligence :

Bla, bla, bla:cry:smilie_auslachen:

[katniss]

No, what I am ashamed of, is that Greeks participated at Sebrenica, not because we did not recognise Kosovo

You mean you are ashamed because your Albanian compatriots helped Bosnian Muslim jihadists to kill around 3500 Serbian civilians there.
Srebrenica: Bosnian Muslim Jihad killings of 3,500 Christians (http://serbianna.com/analysis/archives/921)

Or you are ashamed because the Bosnians Muslim jihadists were killing own compatriots:
Ibran Mustafic, Bosnian Muslim war veteran: “We were killing our own people in Srebrenica” (http://1389blog.com/2014/02/04/ibran-mustafic-bosnian-muslim-war-veteran-we-were-killing-our-own-people-in-srebrenica/)

[epirot]

Bla, bla, bla:cry:smilie_auslachen:

lol the asian lapdogs on a race for the best WESTERN cock-sucking championship LMAO

[Dimos]

You mean you are ashamed when your Albanian compatriots helped Bosnian Muslim jihadists to kill around 3500 Serbian civilians there.
Srebrenica: Bosnian Muslim Jihad killings of 3,500 Christians (http://serbianna.com/analysis/archives/921)

Or you are ashamed because the Bosnians Muslim jihadists were killing own compatriots:
Ibran Mustafic, Bosnian Muslim war veteran: “We were killing our own people in Srebrenica” (http://1389blog.com/2014/02/04/ibran-mustafic-bosnian-muslim-war-veteran-we-were-killing-our-own-people-in-srebrenica/)

Look girl, I do not give shit what happened between you newcomers (Albanians and Slavs) in ex Yugo. The more you kill each other, the better for Greece. If I had it my way I would empty the lands underneath the Jirecek line of non Greek elements and return to the state of bliss before the 6th century, when we did not have to deal with primitive tsobanides

[epirot]

You mean you are ashamed because your Albanian compatriots helped Bosnian Muslim jihadists to kill around 3500 Serbian civilians there.
Srebrenica: Bosnian Muslim Jihad killings of 3,500 Christians (http://serbianna.com/analysis/archives/921)

Or you are ashamed because the Bosnians Muslim jihadists were killing own compatriots:
Ibran Mustafic, Bosnian Muslim war veteran: “We were killing our own people in Srebrenica” (http://1389blog.com/2014/02/04/ibran-mustafic-bosnian-muslim-war-veteran-we-were-killing-our-own-people-in-srebrenica/)

oh come on, now you are harsh to those grekalbs... They don't have the slightest idea, they only know Serbs were the bad guys, (but still inferior), yet friendly to Greece.. some salad like this..

[epirot]

Look girl, I do not give shit what happened between you newcomers (Albanians and Slavs) in ex Yugo. The more you kill each other, the better for Greece. If I had it my way I would empty the lands underneath the Jirecek line of non Greek elements and return to the state of bliss before the 6th century, when we did not have to deal with primitive tsobanides

Stupid alb, when she says Albs she means you. LMAO

[Laberia]

Look girl, I do not give shit what happened between you newcomers (Albanians and Slavs) in ex Yugo. The more you kill each other, the better for Greece. If I had it my way I would empty the lands underneath the Jirecek line of non Greek elements and return to the state of bliss before the 6th century, when we did not have to deal with primitive tsobanides

Dimçe, hahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahhaaa

[Dimos]

Stupid alb, when she says Albs she means you. LMAO

As if I cared

[Laberia]

Don't attack each other gays. You are all Vlachs and Albanians with a whiff of slavic.

[Proto-Shaman]

Hahahahah you Turks are really brainwashed. Ancestors of the indo-europeans are from Anatolia. Ancient Anatolia. That is where our languages came from, not from Ural, where are your ancestors. Even in this time Turks didnt exist under this name, so, how can anybody could have been descedant of turks, if they didn't exist im this time. First official mention of the Turks is with Xiognu warriors near China. Nothing before. Just your brothers by religious and culture Mongols.
:picard2:

http://slideplayer.com/slide/3915691/13/images/14/Kurgan+Theory+of+Indo-European+Origin.jpg


"Turanid sub Europid race" hahahahahahhahah. What a joke. Even caucasian race which is more normal looking then turkic mongol race is not European, how can then Turanid be European?" You can just admit your similarities from Mongols which was exist always. Kipchaks = Asians, like all Turks :)
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL :picard1:

“Кыпчаки - западная ветвь динлинов, этнос, близкий по антропологическому типу к енисейским кыргызам - европеоидам. Они были светлоглазы и желтоволосы (шары), из-за чего их назвали «половцы» (полова— рубленая солома).”

Tiransilation :)
“Kipchaks - western branch Dinglings, ethnicity, close to the anthropological type Yenisei Kirghiz - Europeoids. They were bright-eyed and yellow-haired (shary), which is why they are called "Kuman" (polova— rublenaja soloma).”

Лев Николаевич Гумилев, А. И. Куркчи. "Тысячелетие вогруг Каспия". ДИ-ДИК, 1998. p.261. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=ru&id=vqcvAAAAMAAJ)


Xiongnu with long yellow beard ? Hahahah. Go read some Chinese descriptions about them. They were classical steppe turkic-mongol warriors.
According to recent historical and archaeological studies (Konovalov, 1999; Tsybektarov, 1998), ethnically and linguistically Xiongnu was not homogeneous. Based on the results of archaeological studies of Xiongnu in Mongolia, Ts.Turbat (2004) concluded that Xiongnu culture was created on the basis of mixture and combination of the Iron Age Slab graves culture and the culture of early nomads of North China. This process developed during 4th –3 rd century BC (Turbat, 2004). (1 (http://user.dankook.ac.kr/~oriental/Journal/pdf_new/49/11.pdf))

Slab Grave Culture = Mongoloid Proto-Mongols
nomads of North China = Europoid Turks

Very easy to understand, isn't it?:rolleyes:

[Dimos]

lol the asian lapdogs on a race for the best WESTERN cock-sucking championship LMAO

Well, since ex Jugos are the only one in the area who have sucked everybody's dick, Russian anyway, it is the
main dish since ages, but recently also EU (look at Serbia) and American/turkish (look at Fyrom), maybe you can tell us which one tastes better. At leAst we have our steady customers and we do not whore around,begging the world for every drop available

[epirot]

Well, since ex Jugos are the only one in the area who have sucked everybody's dick, Russian anyway, it is the
main dish since ages, but recently also EU (look at Serbia) and American/turkish (look at Fyrom), maybe you can tell us which one tastes better. At leAst we have our steady customers and we do not whore around,begging the world for every drop available

Serbs recently said NO to your sponsors and protectors : NATO, while you have been begging EU, USA, BRICS, CHINA, RUSSIA , South Africa, Zimbabue for some loan just to get the state semi-functioning ..... man dont ridicule yourself any more...

[Lavrentis]

Fuck off Albanians, Greeks and Vlachs mitoman Tesla is Slavic.

I have never heard a Greek claiming that Tesla was a Greek.


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[Сербо Макеридов]

I have never heard a Greek claiming that Tesla was a Greek.


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I've heard.

[DarknessWin]

The fact that the false Greeks hate TRUE GREEKS (Cypriots) is no news.

Cyprus was never Greek land, just a colony.
West of the island was Greek colony and East of the island was Phoenician colony.
If you add to the mix the local population and then the turkish you have 4 different races.

You call these people true Greeks ??? LOL idiot, they score levant and anatolia in every dna test.
Real Greeks in the island are fewer than 10%

[DarknessWin]

Why are modern Greeks so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.

I was fanatic pro-Serbian until i found your bullshit about R1a and shit ,
go cry to your R1a cucks and Pakistanis.

Greece was wrong that didnt helped Albanians from the start

[Laberia]

Cyprus was never Greek land, just a colony.
West of the island was Greek colony and East of the island was Phoenician colony.
If you add to the mix the local population and then the turkish you have 4 different races.

You call these people true Greeks ??? LOL idiot, they score levant and anatolia in every dna test.
Real Greeks in the island are fewer than 10%

And don't forget the Armenians. I think the most important influence was the Armenian.

[Lavrentis]

You mean you are ashamed because your Albanian compatriots helped Bosnian Muslim jihadists to kill around 3500 Serbian civilians there.
Srebrenica: Bosnian Muslim Jihad killings of 3,500 Christians (http://serbianna.com/analysis/archives/921)

Or you are ashamed because the Bosnians Muslim jihadists were killing own compatriots:
Ibran Mustafic, Bosnian Muslim war veteran: “We were killing our own people in Srebrenica” (http://1389blog.com/2014/02/04/ibran-mustafic-bosnian-muslim-war-veteran-we-were-killing-our-own-people-in-srebrenica/)

Dimos is Greek.

Don't call him 'Albanian' because you disagree with him, Chetnik.


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[katniss]

You Greek subhumans were committed genocide against Slavic Macedonians in Aegean Macedenia.

I am grateful to God because I'm not E-V13, J2 or J1 as Greeks, Analbanians, Arabs and Turks.

I have already detected several fake Serbs on this forum who trolled Serbs using Serbian identity. You are one of them.

[Lavrentis]

I have already detected several fake Serbs on this forum who trolled Serbs using Serbian identity. You are one of them.

He is fully Serb.

[Lavrentis]

You are ashamed because Greece did not recognize mafia state Kosovo as a "free country"???? :picard1:
You are not the Greek. It seems to me you are some grecizied Albanian. Epirot is FYRM-omanian.
So, quarrel between FYRM-omanian pretending to be Serb and Albanian pretending to be Greek.

Dimos is fully Greek, why do you call him Albanian?

I hope that one day Greece recognizes Kosovo.

[katniss]

Dimos is Greek.

Don't call him 'Albanian' because you disagree with him, Chetnik.


Your friend dimos is probably Albanian.

Serbo Makedirov and epirot are not Serbs.


I hope that one day Greece recognizes Kosovo.

You can only dream about it.

[Lavrentis]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cappadocian_Greeks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_exchange_between_Greece_and_Turkey

They are less than 30% of Greece's population.

[DarknessWin]

Dimos is Greek.

Don't call him 'Albanian' because you disagree with him, Chetnik.


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You was right about serbs ,
let them suck R1a pakis

[Lavrentis]

Why are modern Greeks so much anti-Slavic oriented?

Must be because of brainwashing by western power centers in last 200 years and for a lot of helenized Albanians.

Greeks don't hate Slavs, but we don't like them either. Greek opinion on Slavs is in the middle.

And no, Greeks were never brainwashed to hate Slavs by the West. The West couldn't care less about Slavs.

[DarknessWin]

And don't forget the Armenians. I think the most important influence was the Armenian.

Yes , but still you can find some 100% Greek phenotypes in island
but they are few

[Сербо Макеридов]

Your friend dimos is probably Albanian.

Serbo Makedirov and epirot are not Serbs.

Ja sam Srbin 100%, a ti mala (r12aval) pestani da histerišeš po raznim forumuma.

[Lavrentis]

You was right about serbs ,
let them suck R1a pakis

I always said that you can't trust Serbs.

People who like Serbs in Greece are Hellenized Anatolians with Asian mindset. Serbs never helped us in anything, why should we like them?

[Lavrentis]

Btw, Epirot is a Serbian immigrant who lives in Greece. He is an impostor who pretends that is Greek. He is not Greek, he once said that half of Greece belongs to Serbia.

[Сербо Макеридов]

@ katniss (r12aval)

Mala u čemu je tvoj problem?
Na svakom forumu gde se pojaviš stvoriš gomilu neprijatelja a često te i baniju, znam za tvoje ludovanje na Poreklu i Krstarici.

Tebi očigledno treba muška ruka da te dobro protrese, evo ja se dobrovoljno nudim, kiss.

[Cool Story Bro]

"Orthodox brothers" :picard1:

[Cool Story Bro]

I always said that you can't trust Serbs.

People who like Serbs in Greece are Hellenized Anatolians with Asian mindset. Serbs never helped us in anything, why should we like them?

It was about time that Greeks started to realise who Serbs actually are. I wish more Greeks (besides this forum) could read about how Serbs claim Athens to be ancient Serbian city and Greek language to be a fake Serbian one. hahahahah
Im pretty sure this fake "brotherhood" would perish pretty quickly.

[Lavrentis]

"Orthodox brothers" :picard1:

That's Serbian proganda. They want to be associated with us and call us "Orthodox brothers". They also want to have Greece as an ally because all of their neighbors hate them.

Trust me, there is not such thing as "Orthodox brothers". FYROM is Orthodox too but Greeks hate that country.

Only Anatolian nationalists in Greece who are fanatics call Serbs "Orthodox brothers", because Orthodoxy is a key element in Anatolian Greek and Serbian identities.

[Сербо Макеридов]

It was about time that Greeks started to realise who Serbs actually are. I wish more Greeks (besides this forum) could read about how Serbs claim Athens to be ancient Serbian city and Greek language to be a fake Serbian one. hahahahah
Im pretty sure this fake "brotherhood" would perish pretty quickly.

Fuck of Ustasha scum, this is not your business.

[Lavrentis]

It was about time that Greeks started to realise who Serbs actually are. I wish more Greeks (besides this forum) could read about how Serbs claim Athens to be ancient Serbian city and Greek language to be a fake Serbian one. hahahahah
Im pretty sure this fake "brotherhood" would perish pretty quickly.

Serbs were leeching on Greece during the 90's wars and a lot of people felt bad for Serbs and thought that Serbs were the victims. They tricked a lot of Greeks into believing that they were innocent.

My father told me that he remembers watching Greek TV in 1994-95 and Serbs gave interview and were crying "Please Orthodox brothers, help us".

[Dimos]

Dimos is fully Greek, why do you call him Albanian?

I hope that one day Greece recognizes Kosovo.

Because her tikva gvala (κολοκυθοκεφάλα), can not cope with the fact that a Greek is anti Slav, for good reasons. They go ape shit when they meet a Greek who is not in the "orthodox brothers" talibanistic bullshit

[Сербо Макеридов]

That's Serbian proganda. They want to be associated with us and call us "Orthodox brothers". They also want to have Greece as an ally because all of their neighbors hate them.

Trust me, there is not such thing as "Orthodox brothers". FYROM is Orthodox too but Greeks hate that country.

Only Anatolian nationalists in Greece who are fanatics call Serbs "Orthodox brothers", because Orthodoxy is a key element in Anatolian Greek and Serbian identities.

Do not talk in the name of all Serbs.
I live in Serbia whole my life not you, Serbs do not worship the Greeks just recognize Greeks are relatively friendly nation because in the last 700 years there was not wars between Serbs and Greeks.

[Laberia]

Do not talk in the name of all Serbs.
I live in Serbia whole my life not you, Serbs do not worship the Greeks just recognize Greeks are relatively friendly nation because in the last 700 years there eas not wars between Serbs and Greeks.

Yep, Tito was a Croat not a serv so in this case you can blame Croats for the situation after the WWII.

[katniss]

That's Serbian proganda. They want to be associated with us and call us "Orthodox brothers". They also want to have Greece as an ally because all of their neighbors hate them.

Trust me, there is not such thing as "Orthodox brothers". FYROM is Orthodox too but Greeks hate that country.

Only Anatolian nationalists in Greece who are fanatics call Serbs "Orthodox brothers", because Orthodoxy is a key element in Anatolian Greek and Serbian identities.

But it is not true that all neighbors hate Serbs. Besides, hate is problem of those who hate.

Lavrentis, you started real war in Greek podforum attacking Greeks from some parts of Greece. You also bark at Serbs like a wild dog writing stupidities on Yugoslavian topics about things you know nothing. You are extremely quarelsome person with no signs of any tolerance.

You should better take care of your mental health instead of spreading hate against Serbs or against your own compatriots.

[DarknessWin]

Fuck of Ustasha scum, this is not your business.

Hey , just fuck your mother

[Сербо Макеридов]

"Please Orthodox brothers, help us".

Greeks volunteers which fought in Serbian side in Bosnia came voluntarily, Serbs were not called them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Volunteer_Guard


https://youtu.be/LneKWYSsfdo

[Сербо Макеридов]

Hey , just fuck your mother

This are your brothers, cheers!


https://youtu.be/WaOBGrpopLs

[DarknessWin]

This are your brothers, cheers!


https://youtu.be/WaOBGrpopLs

Nationalist Albanians say this crap and muslims, not everyone

[Сербо Макеридов]

Nationalist Albanians say this crap and muslims, not everyone

I suppose that Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?


https://youtu.be/OGWYLvbpYrM

[DarknessWin]

I suppose that Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?


https://youtu.be/OGWYLvbpYrM

Again nationalist muslim Albanians , christian albanians are not support this

[Сербо Макеридов]

Again nationalist muslim Albanians , christian albanians are not support this

I talking about Turks, not about Albanians.
Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?

By the way 70%+ of Albanians are Muslims, deal with it.

[epirot]

Cyprus was never Greek land, just a colony.
West of the island was Greek colony and East of the island was Phoenician colony.
If you add to the mix the local population and then the turkish you have 4 different races.

You call these people true Greeks ??? LOL idiot, they score levant and anatolia in every dna test.
Real Greeks in the island are fewer than 10%

θα έρθει η στιγμή αλβανάκια που θα τρέχετε....

[epirot]

Lavrentis, you started real war in Greek podforum attacking Greeks from some parts of Greece. You also bark at Serbs like a wild dog writing stupidities on Yugoslavian topics about things you know nothing. You are extremely quarelsome person with no signs of any tolerance.

You should better take care of your mental health instead of spreading hate against Serbs or against your own compatriots.

might be his Arab genes. I guess ISIS members behave in a similar manner.

[epirot]

Greeks volunteers which fought in Serbian side in Bosnia came voluntarily, Serbs were not called them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Volunteer_Guard


https://youtu.be/LneKWYSsfdo

I epxlained this before : British setup.

[epirot]

I have never heard a Greek claiming that Tesla was a Greek.


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Prevodim : iz Grcke porjekla I Nikola Tesla??? Nikolaos Tesalos !!! LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[epirot]

I have already detected several fake Serbs on this forum who trolled Serbs using Serbian identity. You are one of them.

WTF!!! Covjek prica ODLICNO srpski!! haha...

Ti si luda lutko.... Znam zasto me ne volis, zbog kada si pisala i pisala za koliko veliku ljubav je bilo medjutim Srba i neke BRITASNKA MEDICINSKA SESTRA, i sam reako da NE VOLIM BRITANKE one su bile SPIJUNI protiv slavena...

Ti si glupa

[DarknessWin]

θα έρθει η στιγμή αλβανάκια που θα τρέχετε....

Εγινα και αλβανος τωρα ?? ΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΑΧΧΑ

Τραβα γαμησου μωρη πεταμενη

[Dimos]

I suppose that Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?


https://youtu.be/OGWYLvbpYrM

No, Turks are not better friends than Serbs. The only true friends of the Greeks are the Cypriots. Yet the Brits, the French and the Americans have been better friends to us than the Serbs.

[Dimos]

θα έρθει η στιγμή αλβανάκια που θα τρέχετε....

Θα μας κλάσετε τ´ αρχίδια λουλούδες

[DarknessWin]

I talking about Turks, not about Albanians.
Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?

By the way 70%+ of Albanians are Muslims, deal with it.

Greeks dont need friends , you need Greeks for friends.
All of you, Turks have their own problems and we want nothing from Anatolia

Anatolia was never Greek anyway, just few colonies there.
Our country are 100% Free and all original Greek lands are free

You have problems with Kosovo, actually you lost it.
You will lost more in the future and Fyrom is going to split in 3 pieces

Albanians will expanded to Fyrom and Greeks to south Fyrom while Bulgarians will get East Fyrom.
You idiot Serbs need allies but lost everything.
An alliance of Albania-Greece-Bulgaria will rule Balkans and you know it very well

[Lavrentis]

But it is not true that all neighbors hate Serbs. Besides, hate is problem of those who hate.

Lavrentis, you started real war in Greek podforum attacking Greeks from some parts of Greece. You also bark at Serbs like a wild dog writing stupidities on Yugoslavian topics about things you know nothing. You are extremely quarelsome person with no signs of any tolerance.

You should better take care of your mental health instead of spreading hate against Serbs or against your own compatriots.

First of all, whose sock account are you?

Second, I never attacked other Greeks or Serbs. I write my opinion and some butthurt people attacked me, and then I attacked them. That's it.

[Dimos]

Greeks volunteers which fought in Serbian side in Bosnia came voluntarily, Serbs were not called them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Volunteer_Guard


https://youtu.be/LneKWYSsfdo

Alas, we have never seen the Serbs doing the same for the Greeks.

[Voodoo]

Nationalist Albanians say this crap and muslims, not everyone

I don't know about Southern Muslim Albanians (because I know some Orthodox Albanian actually call themselves Greek), but I ensure you that 80% Albanians have nothing against Greeks. We Kosovars have nothing absolutely nothing against Greeks, actually we like them. Not to mention Albanians are very atheist, but again could be Tosk muslims from Southern Albania, because Ghegs have nothing against Greeks.

There is also a growing hate for Turkey amongst new generations of Albanians in Kosovo (they don't convert back to Catholicism because we don't give a shit about religion).

Just wanted to clear that up.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Alas, we have never seen the Serbs doing the same for the Greeks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serb_volunteers_in_the_Greek_War_of_Independence

[Lavrentis]

Greeks volunteers which fought in Serbian side in Bosnia came voluntarily, Serbs were not called them.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Volunteer_Guard


https://youtu.be/LneKWYSsfdo

They were Anatolians with Asian mindset. I watched an interview of one of them and he was from northern Greece, and of Anatolian origins.

[katniss]

I don't know about Southern Muslim Albanians (because I know some Orthodox Albanian actually call themselves Greek), but I ensure you that 80% Albanians have nothing against Greeks. We Kosovars have nothing absolutely nothing against Greeks, actually we like them. Not to mention Albanians are very atheist, but again could be Tosk muslims from Southern Albania, because Ghegs have nothing against Greeks.

There is also a growing hate for Turkey amongst new generations of Albanians in Kosovo (they don't convert back to Catholicism because we don't give a shit about religion).

Just wanted to clear that up.

A couple days ago you wrote anti-Serbian posts pretending to be real German. Now, you are Kosovo Albanian. Just to remind again what kind of miserable tricks you use.

[Voodoo]

A couple days ago you wrote anti-Serbian posts pretending to be real German. Now, you are Kosovo Albanian. Just to remind again what kind of miserable tricks you use.

You quoted me twice?

LOL, crazy bitch.

And again, you're also pretending to be something you're not, crazy hypocrite.

[katniss]

You quoted me twice?

LOL, crazy bitch.

And again, you're also pretending to be something you're not, crazy hypocrite.

I am not pretending to be Adyghean, no matter what is written in my profile.

You were pretending to be real German in several serious discussions, just to make others believe that your anti - Serbian idiocies were written by neutral German.

[Сербо Макеридов]

@ katniss (r12aval)

Pozdravlja te Siniša Jerković i ekipa sa Porekla. :D

[katniss]

@ katniss (r12aval)

Pozdravlja te Siniša Jerković i ekipa sa Porekla. :D

I tebe oduševljeno pozdravlja ekipa iz Udruženje glupaka "PRIZNAJEM DA SAM GLUP KO TOČAK" i njihov predsednik. Bićeš im počasni član.

[Сербо Макеридов]

I tebe oduševljeno pozdravlja ekipa iz Udruženje glupaka "PRIZNAJEM DA SAM GLUP SAM KO TOČAK" i njihov predsednik.

Мала видим да је твој једини циљ и на овом и на другим форумима (Порекло, Крстарица) троловање и нападање других форумаша из чиста мира.

Рекла си да сам ја лажни Србин тј. Шиптар али си се зезнула мало.

Епирот није Србин али је му је жена Српкиња и изразито је наклоњен Србима, оно што он зна о Србима и српској култури и историји не зна 99% Срба, а ти настави да живиш у илузији да су нам Грци велики пријатељи.

[katniss]

Мала видим да је твој једини циљ и на овом и на другим форумима (Порекло, Крстарица) троловање и нападање других форумаша из чиста мира.

Рекла си да сам ја лажни Србин тј. Шиптар али си се зезнула мало.

Епирот није Србин али је му је жена Српкиња и изразито је наклоњен Србима, оно што он зна о Србима и српској култури и историји не зна 99% Срба, а ти настави да живиш у илузији да су нам Грци велики пријатељи.

Ja imam stav o važnim pitanjima o kojima postoje sukobljena mišljenja. I ne napadam ljude "iz čista mira", već razmenjujem mišljenja i iznosim argumentaciju. Forumi za to i služe: za civilizovanu razmenu mišljenja.
I ko može krstaricu sa diskutantima koji su akademici u odnosu na ove ljude ovde, upoređivati sa ludnicom kao što je The Apricity.
Ti se ovde gađaš govnima i diskutuješ kao neviđeni primitivac i prostak sa očitom agendom da posvađaš Srbe sa svim narodima i što više isprovociraš Šiptare. Pa ako nisi anti - srpski trol sa agendom, onda si neviđeni glupan što je za tebe još i gore.
Čoveče, to što si ispisao na samo ovoj temi je toliko bljutavo da je gadno čitati. Mene samo čudi kako te ne mrzi ispisivati tolike bljuvotine, a 90% postova su ti takvi.
I sad te ja tako nevinog i jadnog napadoh "iz čista mira".

[Voodoo]

I am not pretending to be Adyghean, no matter what is written in my profile.

You were pretending to be real German in several serious discussions, just to make others believe that your anti - Serbian idiocies were written by neutral German.

Obviously you are, or you're just retarded, actually both.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Ja imam stav o važnim pitanjima o kojima postoje sukobljena mišljenja. I ne napadam ljude "iz čista mira", već razmenjujem mišljenja i iznosim argumentaciju. Forumi za to i služe: za civilizovanu razmenu mišljenja.
I ko može krstaricu sa diskutantima koji su akademici u odnosu na ove ljude ovde, upoređivati sa ludnicom kao što je The Apricity.
Ti se ovde gađaš govnima i diskutuješ kao neviđeni primitivac i prostak sa očitom agendom da posvađaš Srbe sa svim narodima i što više isprovociraš Šiptare. Pa ako nisi anti - srpski trol sa agendom, onda si neviđeni glupan što je za tebe još i gore.
Čoveče, to što si ispisao na samo ovoj temi je toliko bljutavo da je gadno čitati. Mene samo čudi kako te ne mrzi ispisivati tolike bljuvotine, a 90% postova su ti takvi.
I sad te ja tako nevinog i jadnog napadoh "iz čista mira".

Ало бре мала о чему ти то причаш, овај форум је лудница и овде је скоро све дозвољено, на другим озбиљнијим форумима ја се понашам озбиљније.

Овде шиптарски и усташки тролови иду ђоном а ја одговарам исто ђоном што би се рекло "клин се клином избија."

Ниси ти дошла у конфликт само са мном него и са другим форумашима, у конфликту си са свима на Пореклу и са многима на Крстарици и овде, ако на сваком форуму стекнеш гомилу "непријатеља" то значи да је проблем у теби а не у другима, размисли мало о томе.

[Proto-Shaman]

Is R1a an Indo-European marker?

[DarknessWin]

Is R1a an Indo-European marker?
It is Indo-Pakistani marker

[katniss]

Ало бре мала о чему ти то причаш, овај форум је лудница и овде је скоро све дозвољено, на другим озбиљнијим форумима ја се понашам озбиљније.

Овде шиптарски и усташки тролови иду ђоном а ја одговарам исто ђоном што би се рекло "клин се клином избија."

Ниси ти дошла у конфликт само са мном него и са другим форумашима, у конфликту си са свима на Пореклу и са многима на Крстарици и овде, ако на сваком форуму стекнеш гомилу "непријатеља" то значи да је проблем у теби а не у другима, размисли мало о томе.

Ne preteruj. Ne postoji nikakav problem u meni. Da smatram da si ti sjajan lik, onda bih zaista bila u problemu.

Moje mišljenje se razlikuje od mišljenja Siniše Jerkovića i nekolicine njegovih trabanata i to su jedine osobe s kojima sam ušla u raspravu na srpskim forumima. To uostalom i nije konflikt nego obaranje njihovih hipoteza i intelektualna rasprava, a ovo što ti radiš je jedno odvratno i besmisleno prepucavanje uz neviđenu količinu idiotskih i prostačkih postova.

Moji konflikti na ovom forumu su samo odbrana Srba.

Uostalom, ja mogu da uđem u konflikt i sa milion raznih likova sa 10 000 foruma, ali to tebe ne čini manjim idiotom.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Ne preteruj. Ne postoji nikakav problem u meni. Da smatram da si ti sjajan lik, onda bih zaista bila u problemu.

Moje mišljenje se razlikuje od mišljenja Siniše Jerkovića i nekolicine njegovih trabanata i to su jedine osobe s kojima sam ušla u raspravu na srpskim forumima. To uostalom i nije konflikt nego obaranje njihovih hipoteza i intelektualna rasprava, a ovo što ti radiš je jedno odvratno i besmisleno prepucavanje uz neviđenu količinu idiotskih i prostačkih postova.

Moji konflikti na ovom forumu su samo odbrana Srba.

Uostalom, ja mogu da uđem u konflikt i sa milion raznih likova sa 10 000 foruma, ali to tebe ne čini manjim idiotom.

Ни ја се по свим питањима не слажем слажем са Синишом Јерковићем његово форсирање I2-PH908 као "једине изворне" прото-српске хаплогрупе је екстремизам (исто ради и Филипи), али је исто тако и екстремизам твоје форсирање R1a и тврдња да је R1a 30% код Срба, такође ти и Акса проглашавате I2a-Din влашком хаплогрупом што нема везе са истином.

Јерковић је I2-PH908, a Филипи је I2-CTS10228 и оно због тога уздижу I2a-Din, Акса је R1a-M458 па је због тога толико занесен са R1a и мисли да су само M-458 "прави изворни" Срби.

Понављам, овај форум је лудница и овде је све дозвољено, овде има мало људи са којима се може интелектуално расправљати, овде владају тролови који гуше сваку нормалну и аргументовану дискусију.

[katniss]

Ни ја се по свим питањима не слажем слажем са Синишом Јерковићем његово форсирање I2-PH908 као "једине изворне" прото-српске хаплогрупе је екстремизам (исто ради и Филипи), али је исто тако и екстремизам твоје форсирање R1a и тврдња да је R1a 30% код Срба, такође ти и Акса проглашавате I2a-Din влашком хаплогрупом што нема везе са истином.

Јерковић је I2-PH908, a Филипи је I2-CTS10228 и оно због тога уздижу I2a-Din, Акса је R1a-M458 па је због тога толико занесен са R1a и мисли да су само M-458 "прави изворни" Срби.

Понављам, овај форум је лудница и овде је све дозвољено, овде има мало људи са којима се може интелектуално расправљати, овде владају тролови који гуше сваку нормалну и аргументовану дискусију.

Jedan deo dinarika je došao sa proto Srbima koji su svakako imali više haplogrupa i visoki procenti dinarika kod nas su posledica kumulativnog efekta i genetičkog drifta.
To mislim na osnovu do sad raspoloživih informacija. Sve što mislim su moje pretpostavke i nikad se ne pretvaram da kompletna svetska nauka stoji iza mojih pretpostavki kao što je slučaj sa nekim mojim oponentima.
O vlaškom staležu koji je možda imao etnička obeležja, a možda i nije, sam pisala citirajući knjige istoričara koji su proučavali islamizaciju u Bosni i osmansku dokumentaciju vezanu za to pitanje. Po toj istorijskoj dokumentaciji ogromna većina bosanskih muslimana potiče od stočarskog staleža vlasi kojima su Turci davali zemlju i privilegije. Nauka uopšte i ne zna da li je taj stalež imao etnička obeležja ili nije.
Rasprava se vodila na delu foruma predviđenom za teme iz oblasti istorije.
Ovaj brlog od foruma nije mesto za takvu vrstu diskusije.
Ova rasprava s tobom će se na toj konstataciji završiti.

[Сербо Макеридов]

O vlaškom staležu koji je možda imao etnička obeležja, a možda i nije, sam pisala citirajući knjige istoričara koji su proučavali islamizaciju u Bosni i osmansku dokumentaciju i popise stanovništva.

Многи не праве разлику између овога https://sr.wikipedia.org/sr/Себри#.D0.92.D0.BB.D0.B0.D1.81.D0.B8 и овога https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlachs

Правиш ли ти разлику између влаха и Влаха?

[wvwvw]

Some (anti/pseudo)-Greek (ex)-Vlachs even claimed that Tesla was Greek because his ancestors came supposedly from Thesally (Tesalia), hence his name (LMAO). It seems anti-Slavs today are free to write any BS they want at will.

I don't fucking care if 50% of Serbianci don't look Russian or anything. What counts stems from the Slavic heart, brain and mind.

If Alexander can be a Slav I don't see why Tesla (which means Thessalian in Serbian) cannot be a Greek.

[wvwvw]

Some (anti/pseudo)-Greek (ex)-Vlachs even claimed that Tesla was Greek because his ancestors came supposedly from Thesally (Tesalia), hence his name (LMAO). It seems anti-Slavs today are free to write any BS they want at will.

I don't fucking care if 50% of Serbianci don't look Russian or anything. What counts stems from the Slavic heart, brain and mind.

If Alexander can be a Slav I don't see why Tesla (which means Thessalian in Serbian) cannot be a Thessalian.

[katniss]

If Alexander can be a Slav I don't see why Tesla (which means Thessalian in Serbian) cannot be a Thessalian.

No. Tesla does not mean that.

The word tesla has meaning only in Serbo-Croatian language.

Meaning of the word tesla: http://hjp.znanje.hr/index.php?show=search_by_id&id=f19nWRV%2B

Of course, Alexander the Great was the Greek.

[wvwvw]

I suppose that Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?


https://youtu.be/OGWYLvbpYrM

The Serbs would gladly sell us to Turks if that benefitted them. You would never in a million years support Greeks the way we have supported you.

Still our pseudo friendship is valuable because we have common interests.

Same goes for Italy, and some other "friendly" countries. We have learnt to not to count on everyone and that friendship between nations do not exist.

[Сербо Макеридов]

If Alexander can be a Slav I don't see why Tesla (which means Thessalian in Serbian) cannot be a Thessalian.

In Serbian language Tesla means Adze https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Тесла_(алатка)

[wvwvw]

I suppose that Turks are better friends to you than evil Serbs, is not it?


https://youtu.be/OGWYLvbpYrM

The Serbs would gladly sell us to Turks if that benefitted them. You would never in a million years support Greeks the way we have supported you.

Still our pseudo friendship is valuable because we have common interests.

Same goes for Italy, and some other "friendly" countries. We have learnt to not to count on anyone and that friendship between nations do not exist.

[wvwvw]

The Serbs who support epirot, one of the biggest anti-Greek trolls in this forum, and call him bro, should adopt him. That he now dropped the mask and is calling himself Slav, which is what he is, is a good start. The worst trolls are those who assume someone else's ethnic identity, no better way to troll an ethnicity.

[wvwvw]

In Serbian language Tesla means Adze https://sr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Тесла_(алатка)

Meaning of Tesla: "from Thessaly" Origin of Tesla: Slavic.

Tesla
Slavic Origin
"From Thessaly, A Region In Greece"

The meaning of the name Tesla is From Thessaly, A Region In Greece. The origin of the name Tesla is Slavic. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language.

https://www.babynames.com/name/tesla

[katniss]

The Serbs would gladly sell us to Turks if that benefitted them. You would never in a million years support Greeks the way we have supported you.

Still our pseudo friendship is valuable because we have common interests.

Same goes for Italy, and some other "friendly" countries. We have learnt to not to count on anyone and that friendship between nations do not exist.

Most of Serbs outside of this forum consider Greeks as real friends.
I have no idea what kind of trolls on this forum spoiled that friendship, but this forum does not represent reality outside of this forum.
In real life, it is impossible to find a single Serb who hates Greeks.

[katniss]

Meaning of Tesla: "from Thessaly" Origin of Tesla: Slavic.

Tesla
Slavic Origin
"From Thessaly, A Region In Greece"

The meaning of the name Tesla is From Thessaly, A Region In Greece. The origin of the name Tesla is Slavic. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language.

https://www.babynames.com/name/tesla

As I said, it is not the meaning the word tesla. I linked website edited by experts in the field of linguistics. What you linked is some amateur website about baby names. Besides, we don't use tesla as a personal name.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Meaning of Tesla: "from Thessaly" Origin of Tesla: Slavic.

Tesla
Slavic Origin
"From Thessaly, A Region In Greece"

The meaning of the name Tesla is From Thessaly, A Region In Greece. The origin of the name Tesla is Slavic. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language.

https://www.babynames.com/name/tesla

Wrong, Tesla have nothing to do with Thessaly.

Surname of Tesla's ancestors were Draganić, but one ancestor of Tesla had a curved teeth, and for this reason he was called Tesla (Adze).

[Сербо Макеридов]

Most of Serbs outside of this forum consider Greeks as real friends.
I have no idea what kind of trolls on this forum spoiled that friendship, but this forum does not represent reality outside of this forum.
In real life, it is impossible to find a single Serb who hates Greeks.

Једна моја рођака која живи у Америци је удата за Грка, она је причала да је породица њеног мужа никад није у потпуности прихватила зато што није Гркиња, свекрва јој је загорчавала живот деценијама.
Чак су је натерали промени име у грчко и нису јој годинама дозвољавали да има контакт са родитељима, братом и другом родбином.
Та моја рођака кад прича о њиховим обичајима и менталитету као да прича о Шиптарима или Турцима.

Ови Грци на форуму осим епиротa не воле Србе поготово Lavrentis и DarknessWins, као и већина Срба ти имаш зашећерено мишљење о Грцима, ја их не мрзим али их ни не обожавам као ти и многи Срби.

Грчки националисти (Златна Зора) су изразито анти-словенски настројени, они не воле ни Србе ни Русе, говоре за себе да су супериорна Зевсова и Аполонова раса која је свету дала цивилизацију а да су Словени варвари који су окупатори на хеленској земљи.
Златна Зора је трећа странка по снази у Грчкој.

[Bosniensis]

Једна моја рођака која живи у Америци је удата за Грка, она је причала да је породица њеног мужа никад није у потпуности прихватила зато што није Гркиња, свекрва јој је загорчавала живот деценијама.
Чак су је натерали промени име у грчко и нису јој годинама дозвољавали да има контакт са родитељима, братом и другом родбином.
Та моја рођака кад прича о њиховим обичајима и менталитету као да прича о Шиптарима или Турцима.

Ови Грци на форуму осим епиротa не воле Србе поготово Lavrentis и DarknessWins, као и већина Срба ти имаш зашећерено мишљење о Грцима, ја их не мрзим али их ни не обожавам као ти и многи Срби.

Грчки националисти (Златна Зора) су изразито анти-словенски настројени, они не воле ни Србе ни Русе, говоре за себе да су супериорна Зевсова и Аполонова раса која је свету дала цивилизацију а да су Словени варвари који су окупатори на хеленској земљи.
Златна Зора је трећа странка по снази у Грчкој.

Ko im jebe mater, treba se zaletiti dole pomesti ih, ubiti i Zeusa i Apola ako treba jebo ih on, i one kičaste hramove.

[Zmey Gorynych]

Unrelated to the topic but how many M458s do we have in this forum?

[epirot]

They were Anatolians with Asian mindset. I watched an interview of one of them and he was from northern Greece, and of Anatolian origins.

Serbs are 10000 times more western than Cretans will ever be. And cretans 1000 more western than Albanians and Vlahs. This is the correct order . Go google for Serbia, Beograd, Novi Sad, Nis, Kopaonik, Zlatibor, να ξεστραβωθείς γαμώ την σουηδική σου αραβία.

[epirot]

Мала видим да је твој једини циљ и на овом и на другим форумима (Порекло, Крстарица) троловање и нападање других форумаша из чиста мира.

Рекла си да сам ја лажни Србин тј. Шиптар али си се зезнула мало.

Епирот није Србин али је му је жена Српкиња и изразито је наклоњен Србима, оно што он зна о Србима и српској култури и историји не зна 99% Срба, а ти настави да живиш у илузији да су нам Грци велики пријатељи.

Hvala.

Momci kao ti i Novi Pazar, ali takodje i prosecan DOBAR Srbin (i ima MONOGO od njih) ste glavni razlog ja sam ponosan da moja djeca su SRBI.

CCCC

[epirot]

Most of Serbs outside of this forum consider Greeks as real friends.
I have no idea what kind of trolls on this forum spoiled that friendship, but this forum does not represent reality outside of this forum.
In real life, it is impossible to find a single Serb who hates Greeks.

there is no friendship. Your great friends the anglos made an experiment trying to absorb Serbs within some inflated larger Greece.

[epirot]

Meaning of Tesla: "from Thessaly" Origin of Tesla: Slavic.

Tesla
Slavic Origin
"From Thessaly, A Region In Greece"

The meaning of the name Tesla is From Thessaly, A Region In Greece. The origin of the name Tesla is Slavic. This is the culture in which the name originated, or in the case of a word, the language.

https://www.babynames.com/name/tesla

εσείς τα ζώα είστε οι εχθροί του ελληνισμού, οι ψεύτες, που θέλετε να κάνετε όλα βλαχοελληνικα (Θεσσαλια ΧΑΧΑΧΑΑΑΑ) αλλά τους πραγματικους ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ τους μισείτε ... ΚΑΙ ΜΑΛΙΣΤΑ ΠΙΟ ΠΟΛΥ ΑΠΟ ΤΟΥΣ ΣΛΑΒΟΥΣ


ΑΥΤΟΙ ΕΙΣΤΕ

[Сербо Макеридов]

Hvala.

Momci kao ti i Novi Pazar, ali takodje i prosecan DOBAR Srbin (i ima MONOGO od njih) ste glavni razlog ja sam ponosan da moja djeca su SRBI.

CCCC

Brate ti si veći Srbin od većine Srba.

Mnogo Srba nažalost boluje od bolesti koja se zove autošovinizam, tu bolest moramo lečiti ali ponekad mi se čini da je neizlečiva.


https://youtu.be/P9y4obSXM7M

[epirot]

Чак су је натерали промени име у грчко и нису јој годинама дозвољавали да има контакт са родитељима, братом и другом родбином.
Та моја рођака кад прича о њиховим обичајима и менталитету као да прича о Шиптарима или Турцима.


Sramota.

[Сербо Макеридов]

Sramota.

Moja rođaka koja je udata za Grka se zove Slavka, a morala je da promeni ime u Aleksandra, ona živi u Njujorku.

Ona bolje priča grčki nego engleski i srpski, zato što se u okviru njihove porodice u kući priča samo grčki, iako je porodica njenog muža došla u Ameriku krajem šezdesetih ili početkom sedamdesetih kad je njen muž imao 16 godina.

[wvwvw]

Једна моја рођака која живи у Америци је удата за Грка, она је причала да је породица њеног мужа никад није у потпуности прихватила зато што није Гркиња, свекрва јој је загорчавала живот деценијама.
Чак су је натерали промени име у грчко и нису јој годинама дозвољавали да има контакт са родитељима, братом и другом родбином.
Та моја рођака кад прича о њиховим обичајима и менталитету као да прича о Шиптарима или Турцима.

Ови Грци на форуму осим епиротa не воле Србе поготово Lavrentis и DarknessWins, као и већина Срба ти имаш зашећерено мишљење о Грцима, ја их не мрзим али их ни не обожавам као ти и многи Срби.

Грчки националисти (Златна Зора) су изразито анти-словенски настројени, они не воле ни Србе ни Русе, говоре за себе да су супериорна Зевсова и Аполонова раса која је свету дала цивилизацију а да су Словени варвари који су окупатори на хеленској земљи.
Златна Зора је трећа странка по снази у Грчкој.

They maybe didn't like you specifically not Serbs per se. Serbs are accepted more than any Slavic people, hell even fyromians are accepted and mingle with Greeks. Albanians however are not. Many hide the fact they are married to Albanians.

[epirot]

Brate ti si veći Srbin od većine Srba.

Mnogo Srba nažalost boluje od bolesti koja se zove autošovinizam, tu bolest moramo lečiti ali ponekad mi se čini da je neizlečiva.


https://youtu.be/P9y4obSXM7M

Od iste bolesti pate i Bugari, i vise nego Srba.

[wvwvw]

Moja rođaka koja je udata za Grka se zove Slavka, a morala je da promeni ime u Aleksandra, ona živi u Njujorku.

Ona bolje priča grčki nego engleski i srpski, zato što se u okviru njihove porodice u kući priča samo grčki, iako je porodica njenog muža došla u Ameriku krajem šezdesetih ili početkom sedamdesetih kad je njen muž imao 16 godina.

A Greek named Slavko? It is totally accepted for Greeks in America to marry foreigners. Even in Greece noone cares anymore. Serbs have always been accepted by Greeks but it was kind of shame to marry an Albanian or an immigrant. Christian Albanians are more accepted though.

[epirot]

Moja rođaka koja je udata za Grka se zove Slavka, a morala je da promeni ime u Aleksandra, ona živi u Njujorku.

Ona bolje priča grčki nego engleski i srpski, zato što se u okviru njihove porodice u kući priča samo grčki, iako je porodica njenog muža došla u Ameriku krajem šezdesetih ili početkom sedamdesetih kad je njen muž imao 16 godina.

Da bi bila situacjija u Srbiji bolja ona bi mogla da uzme djecu i da beze u Srbiju.

[epirot]

A Greek named Slavko? It is totally accepted for Greeks in America to marry foreigners. Even in Greece noone cares anymore. Serbs have always been accepted by Greeks but it was kind of shame to marry an Albanian or an immigrant. Christian Albanians are more accepted though.

άντε σκάσε άσχετο μουλάρι

[wvwvw]

εσείς τα ζώα είστε οι εχθροί του ελληνισμού, οι ψεύτες, που θέλετε να κάνετε όλα βλαχοελληνικα (Θεσσαλια ΧΑΧΑΧΑΑΑΑ) αλλά τους πραγματικους ΕΛΛΗΝΕΣ τους μισείτε ... ΚΑΙ ΜΑΛΙΣΤΑ ΠΙΟ ΠΟΛΥ ΑΠΟ ΤΟΥΣ ΣΛΑΒΟΥΣ


ΑΥΤΟΙ ΕΙΣΤΕ

Stick to Slavic matters you Slavic trash.

[epirot]

Moja rođaka koja je udata za Grka se zove Slavka, a morala je da promeni ime u Aleksandra, ona živi u Njujorku.

Ona bolje priča grčki nego engleski i srpski, zato što se u okviru njihove porodice u kući priča samo grčki, iako je porodica njenog muža došla u Ameriku krajem šezdesetih ili početkom sedamdesetih kad je njen muž imao 16 godina.

and the funny thing is that their ancestors in Greece most probably spoke Albanian or Vlah. LOL

[epirot]

Stick to Slavic matters you Slavic trash.

μίλα ελληνικά μωρή αλβανίδα....

[Сербо Макеридов]

They maybe didn't like you specifically not Serbs per se. Serbs are accepted more than any Slavic people, hell even fyromians are accepted and mingle with Greeks. Albanians however are not. Many hide the fact they are married to Albanians.

I do not hate the Greeks.
Greeks are more acceptable for us than majority of nation in the area, but I do not worship the Greeks as Lavrentis thinks.

DarknessWins claims that Serbs almost do not exist, in his head all nations in the Balkans are Greek origin.
We are not Greeks, except similar religion we have nothing to do with Greeks.

[wvwvw]

I do not hate the Greeks.
Greeks are more acceptable for us than majority of nation in the area, but I do not worship the Greeks as Lavrentis thinks.

DarknessWins claims that Serbs almost do not exist, in his head all nations in the Balkans are Greek origin.
We are not Greeks, except similar religion we have nothing to do with Greeks.

Lavrentis is in all likehood an Albanian troll living in Greece.

I doubt Darknesswins said Serbs do not exist, or that they are Greek. He usually says that Serbs are not entirely Slavic but have absorded previous people or that the R1a in Greece is not necessarily Slavic, at least some of it.

[Stears]

how so?

Deymark. you are not Hungarian.

Nem vagy te zokni te hülye gyerek?

[Lavrentis]

Lavrentis is in all likehood an Albanian troll living in Greece.

Τι λες μωρε καθυστερημενε που το παιζεις και γυναικα. Πιο πολλες πιθανοτητες υπαρχουν να εισαι εσυ Ινδος παρα εγω Αλβανος.

Raine is a Cypriot who lives in Greece and can't accept that Cypriots are Greek-speaking Levantines. He calls me 'Albanian' because he has no arguments against me.

I wonder if he has seen my conversations with Albanian trolls here


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[Lavrentis]

Btw, most posts Raine made in this thread are inaccurate. I doubt if that lunatic even lives in Greece.


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[wvwvw]

and the funny thing is that their ancestors in Greece most probably spoke Albanian or Vlah. LOL

The Ottomans brought them in you dimwit, to lord over and opress the local population. In effect Ottoman Greece was under the tyranny of Albanians.

The local population spoke Greek and so did the Arvanites whos mother tongue was Greek but were also billingual because their Greek region in Albania had been overun by Albanian warlords who opressed them and chased them off to Greece even before the Ottomans. They were under Albanian rule in Greek Albania. Later all coming from Albania were called Arvanites. Their name was essentially hijacked by ignorant people.

The Vlachs have always had Greek conscience and always have been the biggest defenders of Hellenism, simply because they were Greek.

[Stears]

I have already proven to you on pm i am hungarian.

Do not lie. I haven't got any PM from you. Deymark, you are Romanian troll, who can't even speak Hungarian language.

Ne hazudozz suttyó pöcsfej!

Can you answer me in Hungarian ? :)))))

[Stears]

I was born in USA , i have already proven, but i am as hungarian as you.

:))))))

Bucharest is not located in the USA. And even Hungarian-Americans (including Jews) speak their mother tongue.

This is your sockpuppet no. 1000.

[Laberia]

I was born in USA , i have already proven, but i am as hungarian as you.

What is your connection with this (https://www.google.al/search?hl=sq&biw=1024&bih=639&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Bruce+Lee+of+Bucharest&oq=Bruce+Lee+of+Bucharest&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2672853.2686383.0.2688639.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.. 0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.gdF9gBm4vIQ) person?

[Stears]

What is your connection with this (https://www.google.al/search?hl=sq&biw=1024&bih=639&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=Bruce+Lee+of+Bucharest&oq=Bruce+Lee+of+Bucharest&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2672853.2686383.0.2688639.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.. 0.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..0.0.0.gdF9gBm4vIQ) person?

It is his fantastic ancient "Dacian" uncle.

[DarknessWin]

how so?

Because more R1a exist in India,Pakistan,Afganistan etc
so it come frome there

[Сербо Макеридов]

Because more R1a exist in India,Pakistan,Afganistan etc
so it come frome there

Wrong.

Only R1a-Z93 is common in India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 are clearly Slavic branch.

R1a-Z284 is Germanic (Scandinavian) branch.

[DarknessWin]

μίλα ελληνικά μωρή αλβανίδα....

Ελα καραγκιοζη πες μας οτι εισαι Κυπριος ή Μικρασιατης και βουλωσε το.
Δεν ειπαμε οτι τους μισουμε, ειπαμε οτι απλα ειναι Ελληνοποιημενοι......

Οσο για τους Σλαβους, μια ζωη ανυπαρκτοι βαρβαροι ηταν και με χαμηλο δεικτη νοημοσυνης.
Απο τον Χιτλερ μεχρι και τη σημερινη ακροδεξια στην ευρωπη τους θεωρουν ισαξιους των γυφτων

[DarknessWin]

Serbs are 10000 times more western than Cretans will ever be. And cretans 1000 more western than Albanians and Vlahs. This is the correct order . Go google for Serbia, Beograd, Novi Sad, Nis, Kopaonik, Zlatibor, να ξεστραβωθείς γαμώ την σουηδική σου αραβία.

Maybe but that dont change the fact that few Cretans fucked 4 times more fyromian and bulgarian soldiers like ckickens in Macedonia.
Obey your masters

[DarknessWin]

Were you dropped on your head as a baby?
This is false logic and its already proven both historical ,which was known, and genetically that r1a came from the russian steppes.


https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/353527155491078144/357156195326492675/albaniarides_skylia.jpg


Then why you called it IndoEuropean ???
This mean Indian + European ,
R1a came from india

[DarknessWin]

Wrong.

Only R1a-Z93 is common in India, Pakistan and Afghanistan.

R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 are clearly Slavic branch.

R1a-Z284 is Germanic (Scandinavian) branch.

Bullshit, it came from India and Pakistan in Europe and thats why it called it IndoEuropean.
Have nothing to do with Aryan myth and Nazi bullshits

Or you tell me that forefathers of Slavs were indians and pakistanis ???

[Сербо Макеридов]

Bullshit, it came from India and Pakistan in Europe and thats why it called it IndoEuropean.
Have nothing to do with Aryan myth and Nazi bullshits

Or you tell me that forefathers of Slavs were indians and pakistanis ???

R1a-Z93 is Scythian origin, Scythians were blonde, read hair with blue eyes.
Turkic and Indian/Pakistani which are holders of R1a-Z93 have a Scythian paternal ancestors, because blonde Scythians were fuck many Mongold and Dravidian women.

Scythians (aka Aryans) who were holders of R1a-Z93 looked like this


https://colovrat.at.ua/_pu/0/s89783.jpg

https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

Basically:

Scythians men + Dravidian women = Northern Indians/Pakistani

Scythian men + Mongol women = Turkic people

[Lavrentis]

Maybe but that dont change the fact that few Cretans fucked 4 times more fyromian and bulgarian soldiers like ckickens in Macedonia.
Obey your masters

Don't listen to this Serbian dumbass, Cretans are more Western than Serbs. Serbs are not Western, they are the paws of Russia in Europe.

In Crete began one of the first European civilizations, the Minoan civilization.


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[Stears]

I'm a full blooded gypsy, descended of the Cigányvajda Tamás Bolgár in Hungary, the gypsy king that was given honors by Emperor Sigismund. I can trace my lineage to 1300, and I am a proud gypsy. I moved to the US in 2008, and consider myself a full blooded American now. I have a job as pawn shop owner, wife, children, car, house. I mow my lawn, I pay taxes, etc;

I moved to the US because I lived in Hungary/Romania/Slovenia and I was met with incredible racism and hatred. Romanians are especially cruel and hateful towards us.

The European gypsies are under immense propaganda, and are rarely more violent than whites (google chav crime in london). So what gives? why do you hate me Stears?

Deymark, I've already know you are Gypsy. But stop presenting yourself as Hungarian, it is against the rules.

Change your profile to Gypsy (cigan).

[Veneda]

The word tesla has meaning only in Serbo-Croatian language.

Meaning of the word tesla: http://hjp.znanje.hr/index.php?show=search_by_id&id=f19nWRV%2B



"Tesla" in Serbian is similar to Polish word "cieśla", which means carpenter, joiner, wood-worker

https://pl.wiktionary.org/wiki/cieśla

Also Ukrainians have тесля/teslya for carpenter

[DarknessWin]

R1a-Z93 is Scythian origin, Scythians were blonde, read hair with blue eyes.
Turkic and Indian/Pakistani which are holders of R1a-Z93 have a Scythian paternal ancestors, because blonde Scythians were fuck many Mongold and Dravidian women.

Scythians (aka Aryans) who were holders of R1a-Z93 looked like this


https://colovrat.at.ua/_pu/0/s89783.jpg

https://youtu.be/jkeWai9hzog

Basically:

Scythians men + Dravidian women = Northern Indians/Pakistani

Scythian men + Mongol women = Turkic people


Scythians were Iranic tribe , blonde people LOL.
you still believe this crap when we have reconstruction of barbaric scythian faces??

All of them were a mix of mongols with persians

Here is your scythian Armenoid and Iranid suckers :

http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pic%5CS%5CC%5CScythian%20man%20from%20Nikopol%20ku rhan%20(reconstruction).jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/28/89/dc28897b13dd90cabc97e75b36465808--the-skulls-poland.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQl8jRq6wYCNw09i2D9DDMm8R5vosbXT QZROI0dD4viyqFylj2j

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrdMoEDSxHuabuCXtcdJIIfmf3ixS5y A-PxLwwsN_GMNM2FSbv

[DarknessWin]

Don't listen to this Serbian dumbass, Cretans are more Western than Serbs. Serbs are not Western, they are the paws of Russia in Europe.

In Crete began one of the first European civilizations, the Minoan civilization.


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These idiots still believe the myth that Scythians were Nordic people when its proven that they were IranoMongolic tribe .....

They speak against J2 haplo when Sea Peoples of Minoans and Philistines were 1 million times more beautiful and had great civilization .
armenoid scythians were a bunch of barbarian crap

[DarknessWin]

.


Are you aware with the fact that scythians have been conquered?
Look at their art you putrid rat, they depict themselves fully caucasoid, had they been mongols they would have depicted themselves as such.
We have yet to see a historical writing calling them mongols ,however their migration into Europe is noted.
And yes we do have plenty of craniums of scythians, read what Coon and other anthrpologists says about them, the mongol elements are in minority.
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ea/7b/37/ea7b37437a6fa8a30200529ab3467cb3.jpg


I am Greek and i know from ancient Historians that these people were Iranic tribe mixed with asians.
Maybe some mummies were natives from Ukraine and had blonde hair etc but the real Scythians themselves were Iranic-Mongol tribe

Stop your bullshit and hitler propaganda , the only real blonde white caucasians in Europe were native I1 Vikings.
Dont forget also that many Mongols were blonde too

[DarknessWin]

Man shut the fuck up already.If you have no evidence, it is better to keep your mouth quiet.We are not gambling here.

You shut the fuck up cuck , now get the fuck out of here

[Сербо Макеридов]

Scythians were Iranic tribe , blonde people LOL.
you still believe this crap when we have reconstruction of barbaric scythian faces??

All of them were a mix of mongols with persians

Here is your scythian Armenoid and Iranid suckers :

http://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/pic%5CS%5CC%5CScythian%20man%20from%20Nikopol%20ku rhan%20(reconstruction).jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dc/28/89/dc28897b13dd90cabc97e75b36465808--the-skulls-poland.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQl8jRq6wYCNw09i2D9DDMm8R5vosbXT QZROI0dD4viyqFylj2j

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTrdMoEDSxHuabuCXtcdJIIfmf3ixS5y A-PxLwwsN_GMNM2FSbv

Scythians were mongoloids only in your wet dreams.
Some eastern Scythian tribes were mixed with Mongols and those are these which you posted.

I'm talking about early pure Scythians which were not infected with mongoloid bood and which were 100% white.

Deal with this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythians#Physical_appearance

Many ancient Greek chroniclers have described Scythians as light pigmented people, with often blonde/red hair with light eyes and ruddy skin.

[Jovan Vladimir]

Nogai ancestry confirmed

Only in your dreams, R1a-M458 have nothing to do with Turkic people.

[Tauromachos]

From Facebook.
Another Leftpedian myth debunked.


Was it ever doubted that he was Indoeuropean?

[Rethel]

Was it ever doubted that he was Indoeuropean?

Yes. Leftpedia was falsly claiming, that he was OE.

[Bakk]

Does someone know why is written Germano-Slavic branch? https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/famous_y-dna_by_haplogroup.shtml#R1a-M458

M458 is very rare among Germanic people, Z284 is only branch of R1a which is Germanic.

[Rethel]

Does someone know why is written Germano-Slavic branch? https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/famous_y-dna_by_haplogroup.shtml#R1a-M458

M458 is very rare among Germanic people, Z284 is only branch of R1a which is Germanic.

Maybe becasue germanic tribes occupied the same area, and it is not know, whom it belonged.

[Bakk]

Maybe becasue germanic tribes occupied the same area, and it is not know, whom it belonged.

Eastern Germans are probably only Germanic people with a significant percentage of R1a-M458.

[Rethel]

Eastern Germans are probably only Germanic people with a significant percentage of R1a-M458.

I meant antiquity.

[Bobby Martnen]

Why are you so obsessed with R1, Rethel?

[Vlatko Vukovic]

Eastern Germans are probably only Germanic people with a significant percentage of R1a-M458.

Guess why? Assimilation.

[Bakk]

Why are you so obsessed with R1, Rethel?

Because 70% of Poles are R1.

[Bakk]

Guess why? Assimilation.

For sure.

[Rethel]

Why are you so obsessed with R1, Rethel?

And why are you so obssesed with I-M253?

[Bobby Martnen]

And why are you so obssesed with I-M253?

I1'm not.

[Bobby Martnen]

Actually, Tesla was much more cleverer than Einstein :)

Agreed. Einstein's theories, while clever, rested on some dubious and atheistic metaphysical assumptions.

Tesla's inventions improved the world, whereas Einstein's theories haven't really done much for anyone.

[Bakk]

It does not matter which haplogroup Tesla had, he was a genius.

[Bobby Martnen]

I think Serbs from Serbia are purest Bulgarians :)


No, SER1BS from SER1BIA are the purest R1ethelites!!!

[Dibran]

Does someone know why is written Germano-Slavic branch? https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/famous_y-dna_by_haplogroup.shtml#R1a-M458

M458 is very rare among Germanic people, Z284 is only branch of R1a which is Germanic.

That is based on modern borders and distribution using modern ethno-linguistic terms, that were vastly different then. Much of Poland was East Germanic territory. To assume every man woman and child left with the advance of the Huns, and just neatly left everything empty, for the Slavs to conveniently populate is counter to logic. M458 is also common in non slavic speaking Adyghe, Shapsug, Karachay, and Nogai peoples. Basal M458 too. There is literally no ancient Y-DNA samples for M458. Until ancient DNA samples with M458 pop up, all else is well educated speculation. The irony is the position people take as if everything is already known and set in stone. Not even 1 or 2 aDNA samples is technically telling, and yet for M458 there are NONE, but it is all figured out right? lol as humans we always fill in the blanks. We seem to forget our fill ins are not placeholders for the truth. Until they are confirmed or denied its all talk. Modern DNA will provide clues sure, hints maybe. But, filling in the blanks yourself will largely distort the truth.

[Rethel]

I1'm not.

You putted it into your profile, and you are talking about it from time to time.
So you are obsessed. Exactly the same way as I suposedly am, according to you.


That is based on modern borders and distribution using modern ethno-linguistic terms, that were vastly different then. Much of Poland was East Germanic territory. To assume every man woman and child left with the advance of the Huns, and just neatly left everything empty, for the Slavs to conveniently populate is counter to logic. M458 is also common in non slavic speaking Adyghe, Shapsug, Karachay, and Nogai peoples. Basal M458 too. There is literally no ancient Y-DNA samples for M458. Until ancient DNA samples with M458 pop up, all else is well educated speculation. The irony is the position people take as if everything is already known and set in stone. Not even 1 or 2 aDNA samples is technically telling, and yet for M458 there are NONE.

Exactly.

[SardiniaAtlantis]

I thought the word finishing the title for sure was going to be...”Albanian.”

[Norb]

Does someone know why is written Germano-Slavic branch? https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/famous_y-dna_by_haplogroup.shtml#R1a-M458

M458 is very rare among Germanic people, Z284 is only branch of R1a which is Germanic.

what about mine L664?

[Mingle]

Then why you called it IndoEuropean ???
This mean Indian + European ,
R1a came from india

R1a came from the Eurasian Steppe and then expanded to Central Asia, South Asia, and East Europe.

[Bobby Martnen]

You putted it into your profile, and you are talking about it from time to time.
So you are obsessed. Exactly the same way as I suposedly am, according to you.


A lot of TA members have their haplogroup in their profile. At least my signature isn't about my haplogroup...

[Bakk]

M458 is also common in non slavic speaking Adyghe, Shapsug, Karachay, and Nogai peoples.

Recent Russian admixture probably.

[Rethel]

At least my signature isn't about my haplogroup...

That makes a difference.... :bored:

[Dibran]

Recent Russian admixture probably.

Nope. It must be easy to pull something from your ass and think its facts. M458 in Adyghe, Shapsug, Karachay, and especially Nogai peoples is not linked to Russian R1a branches. These groups have basal M458, and do not intermix per tribal practice. The mass invasion of these regions also wasn't until the 17-1800s. Russian R1a is also predominantly Z280. And most of their M458 is further downstream, whilst the aforementioned peoples carry basal M458. And like a broken record I will say it again, until there is aDNA for M458, all assumption remain educated guesses.

[Proto-Shaman]

M458 in Adyghe, Shapsug, Karachay, and especially Nogai peoples is not linked to Russian R1a branches. These groups have basal M458,
do you have papers and articles about these mutations?

[Mingle]

I thought the word finishing the title for sure was going to be...”Albanian.”

Lol, Grab the Gauge made that claim xD

[Dibran]

do you have papers and articles about these mutations?

This paper goes into the case of Tatars and Nogai. https://www.nature.com/articles/srep30197

In the case of the Dargins, they reach 22 percent M458! and they occupy the complete opposite side of the Caucasus compared to Circassians, who were 20 percent M458.

https://watermark.silverchair.com/msr126.pdf?token=AQECAHi208BE49Ooan9kkhW_Ercy7Dm3Z L_9Cf3qfKAc485ysgAAAaYwggGiBgkqhkiG9w0BBwagggGTMII BjwIBADCCAYgGCSqGSIb3DQEHATAeBglghkgBZQMEAS4wEQQM8 wdj38pUSla6eWBUAgEQgIIBWQfG8r59cwS2SgIyZRvpPXkok1f HffVdsISWK7Bn_bhOK5OUsql9gV8KWksYydPZ6E4SPlM984yr9 YWbs2ly-rFK6feGGkQi0IiNd6SaS3pT2B481ieckYCGyGJbAwGwdo_5TyA eYDQ3uP5NGz7rYPmkhucSViEj9s5LgLF_-N6nFNn-8gxzvQjwVSd2bIfg9IbrYzSwzLCdgjOS1siP2hXNofDsRS1ZCR BpZR8TnAZHkN1QGMCg62bkcBtp-cTfBVnf88tG38d3GndyVUGDXC2uezCqAsEF4QEAiyKGjDwkuvf ZF_YAZUSmEYl-za6hXtaHNHqt7oZEwASl2Qtv4A6jAeqF112CJHibAqVlZlHVrV wJsSFT5034mjZ90tqY8BSZs25mZcIv4pAJlE3xEuNsbwnAn7Lw jGpkTqtiEai-gzE9Qa2GU0_RRvTqnNP7K4mUdp-5ql0o5Q

In the case of some North Caucasus samples, they are young haplotypes that may have been transmitted within the last 300 years. With the case of Nogai, it is a lot more difficult.


Whilst only one sample(out of a small collection), the Nogai project has an M458 confirmed sample. A Kuban Nogai of the Koron tribe - https://www.familytreedna.com/public/nogais/default.aspx?section=yresults. A tribal name not associated with other turkic nogai clans. Karakalpaks and Bashkirs, are also from R1a-M458, and R1a-M458, YP254 + clusters. The Bashkirs of M458 are from the Barin clan. The name of a horde clan associated with genghis khan. Perhaps in these cases its associated with slaves taken from around central east europe from the mongol horde along the silk road?

I recall in the case of Nogai, their M458 was older and basal. Circassian Kavkaz groups according to an admin on a russian site that the samples were young and recent for most(not all cases). Though, if you can read Russian, the forum with the samples and STRs were posted here: http://www.rodstvo.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=1841&st=0&p=71314&#entry71314

https://s14.postimg.org/eyl0t0trl/m458_chart.png

[chyyris]

Tesla is the closest to 2 Serbian families from Lika.

Those families are Bukvić (Буквић - number 256), and Plećaš (Плећаш - number 258) https://dnk.poreklo.rs/tabela-pojedinacne-grupe/?grp-filter=R1a

Tesla (Тесла) is number 257.

[RenaRyuguu]

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