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Rethel
08-03-2017, 05:09 PM
From Facebook.
Another Leftpedian myth debunked.

The inventor of Serbian-American Nikola Tesla most probably does not belong to the haplogroup I-CTS10228.
The first tested Tesla with haplogroup I2a is most likely the descendant of a man who entered Tesla and got the last name of Tesla through the female line. The man's name was Kalinic.

The tested second Tesla was tested two months ago and belongs to the haplogroup R1a-M458 and has a family tree and is directly related to Nikola Tesla by the male line. Direct ancestor of Tesla belonging to R1a and grandfather of Nikola Tesla were born brothers.

We will have to wait to test another or possibly two Tesla to have a final confirmation. However, it is almost certain that Nikola Tesla had a haplogroup R1a. Because Tesla was tested in close association with Nikola Tesla, four knees share them with common ancestors.

Tested Tesla's 2 test done at Belgrade's Serbia, DNA lab. The result is:
DYS393, DYS390, DYS19, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS439, DYS389i, DYS392, DYS389ii, DYS458, DYS437, DYS448, YGATAH4, DYS456, DYS576, DYS570, DYS438, DYS481, DYS549, DYS533, DYS635, DYS643

13 25 16 10 11-14--12 13 11 29 16-----14 20------11--17-19 21---11 25 12 12 23 10
R1a-M458> CTS11962

source: www.poreklo.rs, Serbian DNA

Ülev
08-03-2017, 05:12 PM
R1a über alles in der welt

Voskos
08-03-2017, 05:14 PM
they should test another 100 Teslas and make an average

Rethel
08-03-2017, 05:20 PM
they should test another 100 Teslas and make an average

Half R1 half I2? :laugh:

Ülev
08-03-2017, 05:30 PM
Serbian-American or just Czech? http://www.tesla-blatna.cz/en/index.php



















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Proto-Shaman
08-03-2017, 09:13 PM
Nogai ancestry confirmed

Vyasa
08-03-2017, 09:17 PM
Every day I wake up in a pool of my own tears just wishing that I was a superior Indo-EuR1opean. I would support eugenics for all other haplogroups

Сербо Макеридов
08-03-2017, 11:28 PM
It's true, Nikola Tesla is R1a-M458.

Some guy with surname Tesla was tested few year ago and he is I2-PH908, but he say that he is not real Tesla, because his ancestor married some Tesla girl and adopted her surname, real surname of his ancestor was Kalinić.

Other guy with surname Tesla was tested about 2 month ago, he is from Lika from same village as Tesla's father (that guy and Tesla have a common ancestor in the male line) and he is R1a-M48.

Fuck off Albanians, Greeks and Vlachs mitoman Tesla is Slavic.

Drawing-slim
08-04-2017, 12:07 AM
Theres no way he was R1a. His built and phenotype it superbly corresponds with I2a.

Dibran
08-04-2017, 12:16 AM
Theres no way he was R1a. His built and phenotype it superbly corresponds with I2a.

Haplogroup doesnt always conform to appearance though. Thats all phenotype.

Drawing-slim
08-04-2017, 12:22 AM
Haplogroup doesnt always conform to appearance though. Thats all phenotype.

Sure, but for balkan populations though is pretty scary predictable most of the time.
In this forum most people can guess someone's Ydna. For example Krashnik's Y-dna was predicted by few members here.

Dibran
08-04-2017, 12:40 AM
Sure, but for balkan populations though is pretty scary predictable most of the time.
In this forum most people can guess someone's Ydna. For example Krashnik's Y-dna was predicted by few members here.

Doubtful. these genes and phenotypes can cross paternal Y-DNA markers. Perhaps certain phenotypes are more common to those of a dominant haplogroup suggesting which Markers spread which. I dont think it has a direct effect though.

Сербо Макеридов
08-04-2017, 01:58 AM
Nogai ancestry confirmed:picard1:

R1a-M458 have nothing to do with Turkic people, M458 is clearly Slavic marker.

Proto-Shaman
08-06-2017, 01:35 AM
R1a-M458 have nothing to do with Turkic people, M458 is clearly Slavic marker.
mutations in north Caucasus are not Slavic, they are different. Ask Artek, a Polish member, he could explain you in detail.

blondbeast
08-06-2017, 02:10 AM
mutations in north Caucasus are not Slavic, they are different. Ask Artek, a Polish member, he could explain you in detail.

The OP is a turk then?

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 02:20 AM
mutations in north Caucasus are not Slavic, they are different. Ask Artek, a Polish member, he could explain you in detail.

You are insane, Tesla was pure Serb.
He has nothing to do with Turkic people.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 02:42 AM
Tesla's father Milutin Tesla
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a2/Milutin_Tesla.jpg


Tesla's mother Đuka Tesla (born Mandić) girlygeekchic.typepad.com/.a/6a014e894af703970d01b8d26b68fa970c-600wi


Tesla as a young man
https://matrixworldhr.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/nikola-tesla-23.gif?w=500&h=333

Decius
08-06-2017, 03:20 AM
R1a-M458 have nothing to do with Turkic people, M458 is clearly Slavic marker.

Lol ignore these Turkic trolls

Peterski
08-06-2017, 03:21 AM
I knew it! :D

BTW, I wonder what was Orlik's haplogroup?:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?217402-Classify-WW2-tank-commander&p=4558424&viewfull=1#post4558424

Any Orlik surnames in FTDNA Polish Project?

Decius
08-06-2017, 03:25 AM
Nogai ancestry confirmed

He is a pure serb get over the fact hes not Turkic stop spreading bullshit propaganda turks were mongols originally

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 03:37 AM
Lol ignore these Turkic trolls

He is a stupid mongoloid troll.
Only R1a-Z93 exist among Turkic people in cental Asia, R1a-M48 and R1a-Z280 are clearly Slavic.
Even Z-93 is not real Turkic-mongoloid haplogroup, it is originating from Scythians which are turkified.

Peterski
08-06-2017, 03:58 AM
It's true, Nikola Tesla is R1a-M458.

Some guy with surname Tesla was tested few year ago and he is I2-PH908, but he say that he is not real Tesla, because his ancestor married some Tesla girl and adopted her surname, real surname of his ancestor was Kalinić.

Other guy with surname Tesla was tested about 2 month ago, he is from Lika from same village as Tesla's father (that guy and Tesla have a common ancestor in the male line) and he is R1a-M458.

Fuck off Albanians, Greeks and Vlachs mitoman Tesla is Slavic.

Well, I2a-Din is also very Slavic.

So his Slavicness wasn't controversial even when he was I2a-Din.

But his Indo-Europeanness... :)

Decius
08-06-2017, 04:25 AM
Well, I2a-Din is also very Slavic.

So his Slavicness wasn't controversial even when he was I2a-Din.

But his Indo-Europeanness... :)

Slavs are Indo Europeans...

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 04:42 AM
Dear Albanian mitomans, Tesla is R1a-M458 which means that he is Slavic.

Even if he was I2-PH908, he is still Slavic, because I2a is also Slavic.

Weep with envy!!! :):):):):):lol00001::lol00001::lol00001:

Kamal900
08-06-2017, 05:01 AM
Well, he was a slav after all(Serb), and the R1a haplogroup is very common among Slavic peoples of Europe.

epirot
08-06-2017, 06:26 AM
Hej Novi Pazar brate, cini se da imamo novu Srpsku krv u forumu. To je sjajno!

epirot
08-06-2017, 06:30 AM
From Facebook.
Another Leftpedian myth debunked.

The inventor of Serbian-American Nikola Tesla most probably does not belong to the haplogroup I-CTS10228.
The first tested Tesla with haplogroup I2a is most likely the descendant of a man who entered Tesla and got the last name of Tesla through the female line. The man's name was Kalinic.

The tested second Tesla was tested two months ago and belongs to the haplogroup R1a-M458 and has a family tree and is directly related to Nikola Tesla by the male line. Direct ancestor of Tesla belonging to R1a and grandfather of Nikola Tesla were born brothers.

We will have to wait to test another or possibly two Tesla to have a final confirmation. However, it is almost certain that Nikola Tesla had a haplogroup R1a. Because Tesla was tested in close association with Nikola Tesla, four knees share them with common ancestors.

Tested Tesla's 2 test done at Belgrade's Serbia, DNA lab. The result is:
DYS393, DYS390, DYS19, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS439, DYS389i, DYS392, DYS389ii, DYS458, DYS437, DYS448, YGATAH4, DYS456, DYS576, DYS570, DYS438, DYS481, DYS549, DYS533, DYS635, DYS643

13 25 16 10 11-14--12 13 11 29 16-----14 20------11--17-19 21---11 25 12 12 23 10
R1a-M458> CTS11962

source: www.poreklo.rs, Serbian DNA

How is that news? The guy was 200cm tall with gray eyes and rather handsome. What chances has he to not be true Serb?

Rethel
08-06-2017, 08:25 AM
Any Orlik surnames in FTDNA Polish Project?

It gives you nothing until you will be sure that 1) it is his
relative or 2) Orliks are one family => so actualy the same
as 1) - but it is very unlikely, but possible.

Rethel
08-06-2017, 08:26 AM
Well, he was a slav after all(Serb), and the R1a haplogroup is very common among Slavic peoples of Europe.

But not in Serbia. They have only quarter IEs, much less M458.


Dear Albanian mitomans, Tesla is R1a-M458 which means that he is Slavic.

If he would not be R1 he would be an Albanian?
How so, if Albanians are the same IEs as Serbs...? :picard1:


Even if he was I2-PH908, he is still Slavic, because I2a is also Slavic.

It depends in what sense.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 08:42 AM
But not in Serbia. They have only quarter IEs, much less M458.



If he would not be R1 he would be an Albanian?
How so, if Albanians are the same IEs as Serbs...? :picard1:



It depends in what sense.

Albanians with I2a and R1a are albanized Serbs.

Among Albanians E-V13 + J2b2 + R1b-BY611 are more than 70%.

epirot
08-06-2017, 09:05 AM
But not in Serbia. They have only quarter IEs, much less M458.



If he would not be R1 he would be an Albanian?
How so, if Albanians are the same IEs as Serbs...? :picard1:



It depends in what sense.
Must be a common obsession among NATO water-boys to write the word "Albanian" as much as they can at no particular context.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 09:21 AM
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/47/a7/50/47a750fe9eba37aafbf597e94e40f38a--nikola-tesla-serbian.jpg

Lollipop
08-06-2017, 09:30 AM
Theres no way he was R1a. His built and phenotype it superbly corresponds with I2a.

How come you dont look I2a then?

Drawing-slim
08-06-2017, 09:36 AM
Dear Albanian mitomans, Tesla is R1a-M458 which means that he is Slavic.

Even if he was I2-PH908, he is still Slavic, because I2a is also Slavic.

Weep with envy!!! :):):):):):lol00001::lol00001::lol00001:
No one said he was albanian, but if you wanna go there surely, genetically speaking his blood was more connected to ancient albanians than to any slav population in the world. His phenotype would never be guessed as slav by anyone that knows anything.

Lollipop
08-06-2017, 09:40 AM
No one said he was albanian, but if you wanna go there surely, genetically speaking his blood was more connected to ancient albanians than to any slav population in the world. His phenotype would never be guessed as slav by anyone that knows anything.

Albanians are short and dark with weird inbred head shape just like you,Tesla was very tall and blue eyed despite black hair.

epirot
08-06-2017, 09:40 AM
Some (anti/pseudo)-Greek (ex)-Vlachs even claimed that Tesla was Greek because his ancestors came supposedly from Thesally (Tesalia), hence his name (LMAO). It seems anti-Slavs today are free to write any BS they want at will.

I don't fucking care if 50% of Serbianci don't look Russian or anything. What counts stems from the Slavic heart, brain and mind.

epirot
08-06-2017, 09:42 AM
Albanians are short and dark with weird inbred head shape just like you,Tesla was very tall and blue eyed despite black hair.

That's not important. If he was alb he would work as a drug dealer or pimp in America, and not as an engineer. That's important.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 09:43 AM
No one said he was albanian, but if you wanna go there surely, genetically speaking his blood was more connected to ancient albanians than to any slav population in the world. His phenotype would never be guessed as slav by anyone that knows anything.

You think that Putin who is East Baltid with visible mongoloid influence represents real pure old Slavic phenotype?

If you think that you must be joking or you're greatly mistaken. :coffee:

epirot
08-06-2017, 09:51 AM
You think that Putin who is East Baltid with visible mongoloid influence represents real pure old Slavic phenotype?

If you think that you must be joking or you're greatly mistaken. :coffee:

One of our relatives from Bosanska Krajna looks like the female Putin. I think Putin looks typical Slavic.

Drawing-slim
08-06-2017, 09:52 AM
Albanians are short and dark with weird inbred head shape just like you,Tesla was very tall and blue eyed despite black hair.

Well, clearly you're a fucking ignorant. So you actually think that if Tesla was alive right now he would relate nature wise or feel closer to more with you (being a slav) than with me? You're a joke. Get out of my face.

Lollipop
08-06-2017, 09:54 AM
Well, clearly you're a fucking ignorant. So you actually think that if Tesla was alive right now he would relate nature wise more with you (being a slav) than with me? You're a joke. Get out of my face.

Last time I checked, Tesla considered himself serb, and spoke serbian , not albanian.Insecure albozerg manlet piece of shit.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 09:58 AM
One of our relatives from Bosanska Krajna looks like the female Putin. I think Putin looks typical Slavic.

Putin have too much mongoloid influence for the pure old Slavic phenotype.
Old Slavs were not East Baltids, old Slavs were mostly West Baltids, East Nordids and North Pontids.

By the way Serbs from Bosanska Krajina have an increased percentage of R1a.

Drawing-slim
08-06-2017, 10:07 AM
Last time I checked, Tesla considered himself serb, and spoke serbian , not albanian.Insecure albozerg manlet piece of shit.

If Tesla was alive right now and witnessed how you talking to me he would disown serbian citizenship at once, and most likely slap you across the face sevreal times.

Lollipop
08-06-2017, 10:14 AM
If Tesla was alive right now and witnessed how you talking to me he would disown serbian citizenship at once, and most likely slap you across the face sevreal times.

Not before stepping on you like a cockroach, just for mentioning his name.

Ülev
08-06-2017, 10:16 AM
Milutin Tesla top of head look strange, not Caucasoid tbh

Drawing-slim
08-06-2017, 10:18 AM
Not before stepping on you like a cockroach, just for mentioning his name.

Exactly. You dont know his nature cuz you're not geneticaly connected by ancient balkan blood like we, me and Tesla are. So i cant hold anything against you really.

Rethel
08-06-2017, 10:25 AM
Let's just say, that Tesla was a Pole. M458 can do this easly :laugh:

Drawing-slim
08-06-2017, 10:29 AM
Let's just say, that Tesla was a Pole. M458 can do this easly :laugh:
Fine. Poles secretely feel closer and like albanians more than they like serbs:laugh:

Rethel
08-06-2017, 10:30 AM
Do you think M458 is Albanian, or what? I don;t understand what you mean.

epirot
08-06-2017, 11:39 AM
Do you think M458 is Albanian, or what? I don;t understand what you mean.

he means that trolls should help each other.

Rethel
08-06-2017, 11:42 AM
Lets resovle this once and for all:

Tesla's genealogy: https://www.geni.com/people/Nikola-Tesla/5197946247210041902

Nicholas 1856-1943, born in Dalmatia.
Milutin 1819-1879, born in Dalmatia.
Nicholas 1785-1848, born in Dalmatia.
Milutin 1760-1844, born and lived in croatian part of Bośnia and in Dalmatia.
Tomisław 1735-1814 born and lived in croatian Bośnia.

So, now I have dilemma: where to reput this
thread - to Bosnian or too Croatian division?
But in ancestral village live majority of Serbs.

Ergo - I do not see in him any albanianess,
but his serbness is also doubtfull... So by
country he was Dalmatian, by provenance
he was from Bośnia...

Drawing-slim
08-06-2017, 11:49 AM
Lets resovle this once and for all:

Tesla's genealogy: https://www.geni.com/people/Nikola-Tesla/5197946247210041902


Nicholas 1856-1943, born in Dalmatia.
Milutin 1819-1879, born in Dalmatia.
Nicholas 1785-1848, born in Dalmatia.
Milutin 1760-1844, born and lived in croatian part of Bośnia and in Dalmatia.
Tomisław 1735-1814 born and lived in croatian Bośnia.

So, now I have dilemma: where to reput this
thread - to Bosnian or too Croatian division?
But in ancestral village live majority of Serbs.

Ergo - I do not see in him any albanianess,
but his serbness is also doubtfull... So by
country he was Dalmatian, by provenance
he was from Bośnia...
This just proves my point. Him having his origins from dalmatia makes him more connected with albanians by ancient balkan blood. And i only could tell this by looking at his phenotype.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 01:17 PM
This just proves my point. Him having his origins from dalmatia makes him more connected with albanians by ancient balkan blood. And i only could tell this by looking at his phenotype.

You are Shiptar troll.
Stop writing nonsense, Tesla has nothing in common with Shiptars.

I stress once again: Tesla was pure Serb, fuck off Crotian, Vlach, Analbanian, Greek, Turkish, Turkic and others retarded trolls!!!

blondbeast
08-06-2017, 01:21 PM
Last time I checked, Tesla considered himself serb, and spoke serbian , not albanian.Insecure albozerg manlet piece of shit.
Drawing slim is a manlet. His height is 5'9 probably microspenis too.

Jana
08-06-2017, 01:26 PM
You are Shiptar troll.
Stop writing nonsense, Tesla has nothing in common with Shiptars.

I stress once again: Tesla was pure Serb, fuck off Crotian, Vlach, Analbanian, Greek, Turkish, Turkic and others retarded trolls!!!

What a idiot, you are obsessed with Croats and always mention them when no single Croatian member ever claimed Tesla was anything but Serb.

However, he has nothing to do with Serbia and would be genetically closer to Croats than Serbs from Serbia just like rest of you Serbified Vlachs.

Now cry me a river :)

blondbeast
08-06-2017, 01:30 PM
What a idiot, you are obsessed with Croats and always mention them when no single Croatian member ever claimed Tesla was anything but Serb.

However, he has nothing to do with Serbia and would be genetically closer to Croats than Serbs from Serbia just like rest of you Serbified Vlachs.

Now cry me a river :)
A Pole claims he is a Pole, albanian the same. Now a croat claims he was coratian. I claim he is Harkonnen!

Jana
08-06-2017, 01:33 PM
A Pole claims he is a Pole, albanian the same. Now a croat claims he was coratian. I claim he is Harkonnen!
Stop lying. Tesla was a Serb not a Croat.
And Serbs from Croatia are genetically closer to Croats than to Serbs from Serbia.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 01:34 PM
What a idiot, you are obsessed with Croats and always mention them when no single Croatian member ever claimed Tesla was anything but Serb.

However, he has nothing to do with Serbia and would be genetically closer to Croats than Serbs from Serbia just like rest of you Serbified Vlachs.

Now cry me a river :)

"Croatian" girl you are very nervous! :cool:
Your countymen are obsessed with usurping Nikola Tesla.

Tesla is originated from Raška (old Serbia), his ancestors were once called Draganić.

blondbeast
08-06-2017, 01:35 PM
Stop lying. Tesla was a Serb not a Croat.
And Serbs from Croatia are genetically closer to Croats than to Serbs from Serbia.
Shut the fuck up, cunt. I'm not lying. You just claimed he is coratian.

Jana
08-06-2017, 01:39 PM
"Croatian" girl you are very nervous! :cool:
Your countymen are obsessed with usurping Nikola Tesla.

Tesla is originated from Raška (old Serbia), his ancestors were once called Draganić.

Nope. He is Serb from Croatia and we are proud of him, just like we are proud of Svetozar Borojević.
Serbia should stop stealing Tesla's legacy, as it was not a country he called home:


I consider it my duty, as a native son of my country [Croatia],
to assist the city of Zagreb by advice and help in every way I can.

Tesla has everything to do with Serbs, not with Serbia. Learn the difference.

Jana
08-06-2017, 01:42 PM
Shut the fuck up, cunt. I'm not lying. You just claimed he is coratian.
Fuck off forest negro. What the hell do you know about Nikola Tesla or Serbs from Croatia ?

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 01:50 PM
Nope. He is Serb from Croatia and we are proud of him, just like we are proud of Svetozar Borojević.
Serbia should stop stealing Tesla's legacy, as it was not a country he called home:



Tesla has everything to do with Serbs, not with Serbia. Learn the difference.

https://image.slidesharecdn.com/tesla-1233100736256216-3/95/a-glimpse-of-nikola-tesla-2-728.jpg?cb=1233079257

blondbeast
08-06-2017, 01:52 PM
Fuck off forest negro. What the hell do you know about Nikola Tesla or Serbs from Croatia ?

Respect is earned, not given. just because you are internet female dosn't mean to you can fap your gums like an obnoxious cunt towards everyone and get away with it. Now shut up and go to the kitchen.

Lollipop
08-06-2017, 01:59 PM
Respect is earned, not given. just because you are internet female dosn't mean to you can fap your gums like an obnoxious cunt towards everyone and get away with it. Now shut up and go to the kitchen.

Preach.

Jana
08-06-2017, 02:00 PM
https://image.slidesharecdn.com/tesla-1233100736256216-3/95/a-glimpse-of-nikola-tesla-2-728.jpg?cb=1233079257
His father wanted him to become orthodox priest.


Respect is earned, not given. just because you are internet female dosn't mean to you can fap your gums like an obnoxious cunt towards everyone and get away with it. Now shut up and go to the kitchen.
Okay.

Сербо Макеридов
08-06-2017, 02:03 PM
Yes, he was supposed to become an Orthodox priest.

blondbeast
08-06-2017, 02:03 PM
PS I love tou

Rethel
08-06-2017, 04:42 PM
Tesla is originated from Raška (old Serbia), his ancestors were once called Draganić.

Ok, fine, but please, give some proof of it.

epirot
08-06-2017, 04:42 PM
Stop lying. Tesla was a Serb not a Croat.
And Serbs from Croatia are genetically closer to Croats than to Serbs from Serbia.

because Croats from Bosnia, Dalmatia are the purest Serbs. Zagreb is different, obviously.

Rethel
08-06-2017, 04:44 PM
Nope. He is Serb from Croatia and we are proud of him, just like we are proud of Svetozar Borojević.
Serbia should stop stealing Tesla's legacy, as it was not a country he called home:



Tesla has everything to do with Serbs, not with Serbia. Learn the difference.

Why cannot he be just orthodox Croatian/Dalmatian/Bośniak?

epirot
08-06-2017, 04:45 PM
Fuck off forest negro. What the hell do you know about Nikola Tesla or Serbs from Croatia ?

How many times have you been in Serbia?

epirot
08-06-2017, 04:46 PM
Why cannot he be just orthodox Croatian/Dalmatian/Bośniak Bosnian?

Exactly. BTW there is a word to describe this combination : SERB.

Dibran
08-06-2017, 04:55 PM
Lets resovle this once and for all:

Tesla's genealogy: https://www.geni.com/people/Nikola-Tesla/5197946247210041902

Nicholas 1856-1943, born in Dalmatia.
Milutin 1819-1879, born in Dalmatia.
Nicholas 1785-1848, born in Dalmatia.
Milutin 1760-1844, born and lived in croatian part of Bośnia and in Dalmatia.
Tomisław 1735-1814 born and lived in croatian Bośnia.

So, now I have dilemma: where to reput this
thread - to Bosnian or too Croatian division?
But in ancestral village live majority of Serbs.

Ergo - I do not see in him any albanianess,
but his serbness is also doubtfull... So by
country he was Dalmatian, by provenance
he was from Bośnia...

Why would there be Albanianness in him?? I have never heard Albanians claim him. I was always told he was Croatian. The man was definitely leaps and bounds far superior in intellect than all of the combined mental capacity of Serbia.

epirot
08-06-2017, 05:02 PM
Why would there be Albanianness in him?? I have never heard Albanians claim him. I was always told he was Croatian. The man was definitely leaps and bounds far superior in intellect than all of the combined mental capacity of Serbia.

that's why 99.999% of the technical development in ex-YU happened in Serbia (first airplane motor factory, first car, first super computer, first first first...)
On the bottom of the south/eastern european list, of course lies our usual suspect .... albanimalia.

Insuperable
08-06-2017, 05:11 PM
because Croats from Bosnia, Dalmatia are the purest Serbs. Zagreb is different, obviously.

Serbs are Orthodox Croats.

Dibran
08-06-2017, 05:14 PM
that's why 99.999% of the technical development in ex-YU happened in Serbia (first airplane motor factory, first car, first super computer, first first first...)
On the bottom of the south/eastern european list, of course lies our usual suspect .... albanimalia.

You know that justin timberlake song? Cry me a river.....

epirot
08-06-2017, 06:55 PM
You know that justin timberlake song? Cry me a river.....

numbers/reality and albs were never good friends.

Rethel
08-06-2017, 08:49 PM
Actually, Tesla was much more cleverer than Einstein :)

Noman
08-07-2017, 04:24 AM
From Facebook.
Another Leftpedian myth debunked.

The inventor of Serbian-American Nikola Tesla most probably does not belong to the haplogroup I-CTS10228.
The first tested Tesla with haplogroup I2a is most likely the descendant of a man who entered Tesla and got the last name of Tesla through the female line. The man's name was Kalinic.

The tested second Tesla was tested two months ago and belongs to the haplogroup R1a-M458 and has a family tree and is directly related to Nikola Tesla by the male line. Direct ancestor of Tesla belonging to R1a and grandfather of Nikola Tesla were born brothers.

We will have to wait to test another or possibly two Tesla to have a final confirmation. However, it is almost certain that Nikola Tesla had a haplogroup R1a. Because Tesla was tested in close association with Nikola Tesla, four knees share them with common ancestors.

Tested Tesla's 2 test done at Belgrade's Serbia, DNA lab. The result is:
DYS393, DYS390, DYS19, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS439, DYS389i, DYS392, DYS389ii, DYS458, DYS437, DYS448, YGATAH4, DYS456, DYS576, DYS570, DYS438, DYS481, DYS549, DYS533, DYS635, DYS643

13 25 16 10 11-14--12 13 11 29 16-----14 20------11--17-19 21---11 25 12 12 23 10
R1a-M458> CTS11962

source: www.poreklo.rs, Serbian DNA

Can you please link the original post please?

Jana
08-07-2017, 08:04 AM
because Croats from Bosnia, Dalmatia are the purest Serbs. Zagreb is different, obviously.
I think Serbs from Serbia are purest Bulgarians :)


Why cannot he be just orthodox Croatian/Dalmatian/Bośniak?
Because he identified as Serb.


How many times have you been in Serbia?
Almost similar to Tesla, never. )))

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 08:14 AM
I think Serbs from Serbia are purest Bulgarians :)


Because he identified as Serb.


Almost similar to Tesla, never. )))

You've never been in Serbia and you talk about Serbs, be serious. :coffee:

You are just brainwashed Serbian Catholic girl. :cool:

Rethel
08-07-2017, 08:45 AM
Can you please link the original post please?

Idk if I can - it is in closed facebook page.
It was added by some Serb.

Noman
08-07-2017, 09:51 AM
Idk if I can - it is in closed facebook page.
It was added by some Serb.

Can you share that FB group please?

Drawing-slim
08-07-2017, 10:02 AM
Its not like serbs have not made up any stories before. Come to think of it Tesla could very well be E-v13. No one knows for sure his body was cremated. Plus even his I2a could be Serbian fiction, he could be r1b or E-v13 most likely. Which makes him albanian assimilated serb. Serbian academics would never wanna risk publishing ancient albanian Y-dna lines if he had one.

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 10:15 AM
We Albanians trade in drugs and human organs, we support ISIS, we have destroyed hundreds of Serbian Orthodox medival churches and monasteries, we are come to the Balkans in the 11th century from Azerbaijan, most dominant haplogroups among us are E-V13 which is North African and J2b which is Caucasian-Middle Eastern marker, we are Caucasian-Middle Eastern mongrels with black hair-eyes, dark skin and Middle Eastern facial features, we stealing Serbian history, we never in history did not have a state until 1912, we are primitive and uneducated people, we are cancer of the Balkans...:thumb001:

Yes, you're right, Analbanians are the greatest evil in the Balkans.

epirot
08-07-2017, 10:49 AM
I think Serbs from Serbia are purest Bulgarians :)

Pure Bulgarians speak Yakavica. Pure Croats speak Ikavica/Cakavica/Kajkavica .
Ekavica/Jekavica -> SERBS



Almost similar to Tesla, never. )))

You cannot compare a person to a land. Oranges to oranges and apples to apples. In south Serbia (Predejane, Vladicin Han, etc...) I saw LOADS of ppl blonder than Tesla, and many around his height.

epirot
08-07-2017, 10:54 AM
Its not like serbs have not made up any stories before. Come to think of it Tesla could very well be E-v13. No one knows for sure his body was cremated. Plus even his I2a could be Serbian fiction, he could be r1b or E-v13 most likely. Which makes him albanian assimilated serb. Serbian academics would never wanna risk publishing ancient albanian Y-dna lines if he had one.

Albanian algorithm of expansion :

If a person is even remotely mentioned in some irrelevant context with some word sounding like alb, alp, skip, squip,arv, alv* then claim him as albanian.
Else if there is not enough EXPLICIT evidence against the albanianness about said person, then claim him as albanian.
Else, just claim that he could have been albanian.

Jana
08-07-2017, 11:27 AM
You've never been in Serbia and you talk about Serbs, be serious. :coffee:
You are just brainwashed Serbian Catholic girl. :cool:

Neither have you, your Krajina Serbs have never seen Serbia until 1995.

Jana
08-07-2017, 11:30 AM
Pure Bulgarians speak Yakavica. Pure Croats speak Ikavica/Cakavica/Kajkavica .
Ekavica/Jekavica -> SERBS


You cannot compare a person to a land. Oranges to oranges and apples to apples. In south Serbia (Predejane, Vladicin Han, etc...) I saw LOADS of ppl blonder than Tesla, and many around his height.

Croats speak Chakavian, Stokavian and Kajkavian.
My area diealect is Chakavian....

Tesla was not blond but dark haired and look like typical Croatian Serb, pred. dinaric. Serbs from Southern Serbia may be blond and whatever, why not ? They are Slavs. And genetically closer to Bulgarians than to Croats, who speak Torlak dialect. So, they are Serbified Bulgarians according to you ?

epirot
08-07-2017, 12:53 PM
Croats speak Chakavian, Stokavian and Kajkavian.
My area diealect is Chakavian....

Tesla was not blond but dark haired and look like typical Croatian Serb, pred. dinaric. Serbs from Southern Serbia may be blond and whatever, why not ? They are Slavs. And genetically closer to Bulgarians than to Croats, who speak Torlak dialect. So, they are Serbified Bulgarians according to you ?

Stokavian Croats are just Catholic Serbs, and you know that pretty well. The dialect of south Serbia has 4 declensions and is a sub-branch of Stokavian. I don't know how you came up with the "genetically closer" thingy.

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 12:59 PM
Stokavian Croats are just Catholic Serbs, and you know that pretty well. The dialect of south Serbia has 4 declensions and is a sub-branch of Stokavian. I don't know how you came up with the "genetically closer" thingy.

Typical Croatian atni-Serbian propaganda that Serbs from southern Serbia are Bulgarians, and Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia are mixture of Croats and Vlachs.

Jana
08-07-2017, 01:37 PM
Stokavian Croats are just Catholic Serbs, and you know that pretty well. The dialect of south Serbia has 4 declensions and is a sub-branch of Stokavian. I don't know how you came up with the "genetically closer" thingy.
Hahah, no. We can't understand Torlak so don't try to present it as ''similar'' dialect, it is not. If it was ''same language'' Croats could understand it, and that is not the case. So much about linguistic homogenity among Serbs :)

And Croats speak west Stokavian which has nothing to do with Serbia. You speak east Stokavian while our standard is based on Dubrovnik literal language
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0B_lCaWUCxE/UEruACZMupI/AAAAAAAADpQ/5rXiZYMp4EY/s1600/Povijesna+rasprostranjenost+hrvatskih+narje%C4%8Dj a.PNG

More mythomania please :)

Jana
08-07-2017, 01:43 PM
Typical Croatian atni-Serbian propaganda that Serbs from southern Serbia are Bulgarians, and Serbs from Bosnia and Croatia are mixture of Croats and Vlachs.

We are not interested to steal other peoples identities as you Serbs are. Croatian Serbs are Serbs just like Southern Serbs.
Their genetics is not the same, but you are too dumb to understand people are what they identify to be, not what genetics tell them.

Polish minority in Estonia is genetically Estonian, and they are Poles. They just do not originate from Poland, just like most of Krajina Serbs do not originate from Serbia.
For a non-mythoman person, it should not be too much of a problem.

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 01:45 PM
We are not interested to steal other peoples identities as you Serbs are. Croatian Serbs are Serbs just like Southern Serbs.
Their genetics is not the same, but you are too dumb to understand people are what they identify to be, not what genetics tell them.

Polish minority in Estonia is genetically Estonian, and they are Poles. They just do not originate from Poland, just like most of Krajina Serbs do not originate from Serbia.
For a non-mythoman person, it should not be too much of a problem.

What is the difference in genetic of Serbs from southern Serbia and Serbs from Croatia?

Jana
08-07-2017, 01:47 PM
What is the difference in genetic of Serbs from southern Serbia and Serbs from Croatia?
Serbs from Croatia have quite more Northern European influence.

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 01:55 PM
Serbs from Croatia have quite more Northern European influence.

Serbs from Serbia have 37,91% North European, and western Serbs (Prečani) have 41,19% North European on average.

www.poreklo.rs/forum/index.php?topic=754.0 (down)

epirot
08-07-2017, 03:34 PM
Hahah, no. We can't understand Torlak so don't try to present it as ''similar'' dialect, it is not. If it was ''same language'' Croats could understand it, and that is not the case. So much about linguistic homogenity among Serbs :)

And Croats speak west Stokavian which has nothing to do with Serbia. You speak east Stokavian while our standard is based on Dubrovnik literal language
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-0B_lCaWUCxE/UEruACZMupI/AAAAAAAADpQ/5rXiZYMp4EY/s1600/Povijesna+rasprostranjenost+hrvatskih+narje%C4%8Dj a.PNG

More mythomania please :)

"YOU SPEAK"?? I am not a Serb (unfortunately). I am a Slav/Vlah from Greece. BTW your map would be precise if instead of "Historical" it was "Hysterical".
BTW all Stokavian speakers understand each other. Too bad the citizens of your capital city (Zagreb) speak another language than your official Serbian. (another peculiarity of croatia)

Enflamme
08-07-2017, 03:39 PM
DINARIC

Voskos
08-07-2017, 03:48 PM
Anybody seen Dick? He hasnt posted in few days.

Peterski
08-07-2017, 03:57 PM
Polish minority in Estonia is genetically Estonian

I'm not so sure, according to Polishgenes most of them are not Estonian-like:

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2014/02/genetic-affinities-of-estonian-poles.html


Genetic affinities of Estonian Poles

The Estonian Biocentre has a new genotype dataset available from the recently released "Khazar" preprint (see here). The samples include Poles from Estonia, so I ran a PCA to see whether there was a clear difference between them and their ethnic kin from Poland in terms of genome-wide genetic structure. This doesn't appear to be the case, except for a few individuals who probably have significant Estonian and/or northwest Russian ancestry. It's an interesting result, considering that, as far as I know, most Estonian Poles are not of recent Polish origin, but have roots in the East Baltic dating back to the Polish-ruled Duchy of Livonia of the 1600s.

They have some local admixture but they are not 100% Estonian-like genetically.

Jana
08-07-2017, 04:10 PM
I'm not so sure, according to Polishgenes most of them are not Estonian-like:

http://polishgenes.blogspot.com/2014/02/genetic-affinities-of-estonian-poles.html

They have some local admixture but they are not 100% Estonian-like genetically.

They don't cluster with Poles from Poland.

Jana
08-07-2017, 04:14 PM
"YOU SPEAK"?? I am not a Serb (unfortunately). I am a Slav/Vlah from Greece. BTW your map would be precise if instead of "Historical" it was "Hysterical".
BTW all Stokavian speakers understand each other. Too bad the citizens of your capital city (Zagreb) speak another language than your official Serbian. (another peculiarity of croatia)

Torlakian is transitional dialect between east Stokavian and Bulgarian, deal with it.
Croats can read our medieval texts without trouble, I Wonder if the same could be said for Serbs since you used Churchslavonic.

And most of Zagreb is Stokavian speaking nowadays (unfortunately).

Peterski
08-07-2017, 04:15 PM
They don't cluster with Poles from Poland.

It depends.

Maybe they cluster with Poles from northern Kresy (now Belarus, Lithuania and southern Latvia). These Poles were definitely within the borders of Poland before 1939, and currently most of them live in westernmost Poland (former German areas), but a large part still live in Belarus, Lithuania and Latvia.

National and religious structure of North-Eastern Poland in 1931 census (it is possible that the number of Non-Catholic Poles was inflated - national identity of those people was "uncertain"):

http://s4.postimg.org/qisk5fc1p/Kresy1.png
http://s17.postimg.org/g3mfdsxbj/Kresy2.png

Number of Poles in former Kresy according to official census data:

1a+b = North-East Poland ------ 1,663,888 Poles (1931 Polish census)
2 = South-East Poland ---------- 2,249,703 Poles (1931 Polish census)
1.2 = Soviet Belarus ------------ 97,498 Poles (1926 Soviet census)
2.2 = Soviet Ukraine ------------ 476,435 Poles (1926 Soviet census)
1.3 = Lithuania ------------------ 202,026 Poles (1923 elections results)
1.4 = Latvia --------------------- 59,374 Poles (1930 Latvian census)
3 = Soviet Russia --------------- 197,827 Poles (1926 Soviet census)

TOTAL ---------------------------- 5 million people (1926-1931 data)

http://s1.postimg.org/c0z5vvxjj/Kresy.png

Rethel
08-07-2017, 04:33 PM
They just do not originate from Poland,

No? So where :laugh:

Rethel
08-07-2017, 04:40 PM
They don't cluster with Poles from Poland.

Not clustering, doesn't mean, that they are not from Poland (or Lithuania).
Au discribed only your cuttert intestils, not where are you came from, or
the origin of the people. Baseing on au is just stupid and senseless.

Lollipop
08-07-2017, 05:17 PM
Only croats can go to sleep speaking serbian, and wake up speaking a different language,"croatian".

Dema
08-07-2017, 05:41 PM
Sure, but for balkan populations though is pretty scary predictable most of the time.
In this forum most people can guess someone's Ydna. For example Krashnik's Y-dna was predicted by few members here.

Not only Krashniks but two more Albos from TA, i predicted their Ydna, to make it more interesting they were all different haplogroups.

Also for my Croat friend i said i dont believe he will score I2a or R1a and indeed he got E1b1b

Looking at pheno i would say its higher chance for Tesla to be I2a1b

Also i would suggest to you to test now Y37 at ftdna because its on discount right now.

You put your Ydna as I2a1b but you were tested only to I2a-M423

There is slight chance you dont belong to I2a1b and if you belong then you can confirm it and see to what branch you belong.

https://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?group=AlbanianBloodlines&code=B11086

epirot
08-07-2017, 06:04 PM
Torlakian is transitional dialect between east Stokavian and Bulgarian, deal with it.
Croats can read our medieval texts without trouble, I Wonder if the same could be said for Serbs since you used Churchslavonic.

And most of Zagreb is Stokavian speaking nowadays (unfortunately).

Medieval Serbian was the language of Dusanov Zakonik and was very close to south Serbian. Your medieval texts (from Dubrovnik) are Serbian.

epirot
08-07-2017, 06:06 PM
Guys this is the Serbian forum and Tesla's thread. If you want to discuss about Serbi from germany/Poland and rest of Slavs from there, feel free to open another thread in Serbian forum.

Hvala u naprjed.

Dema
08-07-2017, 06:23 PM
Medieval Serbian was the language of Dusanov Zakonik and was very close to south Serbian. Your medieval texts (from Dubrovnik) are Serbian.

Dusan considered himself Bulgarian and language his zakonik was wrriten on is 10x more similar to modern Bulgarian then modern Serbian.

Lollipop
08-07-2017, 06:28 PM
Dusan considered himself Bulgarian and language his zakonik was wrriten on is 10x more similar to modern Bulgarian then modern Serbian.

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/690/758/731.jpg

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 07:41 PM
Dusan considered himself Bulgarian and language his zakonik was wrriten on is 10x more similar to modern Bulgarian then modern Serbian.

You are retarded Analbanian troll, Dušan were Serbian emperor, and he is defeated Bulgarians and their allies Greeks, Tatars and Vlachs in the battle of Velbazhd.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Velbazhd

Drawing-slim
08-07-2017, 07:56 PM
What do you think Stefan Dusan's Y-dna was? What we know for certain is that his best horsmen cavalry soldiers spoke Albanian. His Y-dna could be anyone's guess. But why would he trust only albanians as his close entourage?

Сербо Макеридов
08-07-2017, 07:59 PM
What do you think Stefan Dusan's Y-dna was? What we know for certain is that his best horsmen cavalry soldiers spoke Albanian. His Y-dna could be anyone's guess. But why would he trust only albanians as his close entourage?

R1a or I1.

Jana
08-07-2017, 08:14 PM
Dusan considered himself Bulgarian and language his zakonik was wrriten on is 10x more similar to modern Bulgarian then modern Serbian.

Indeed. It was written in Serb redaction of Churchslavonic (language developed around lake Ohrid in FYROM) and nothing to do with neo-Stokavian of either variant.

Rethel
08-07-2017, 09:11 PM
FYROM

:picard2:

Proto-Shaman
08-07-2017, 10:29 PM
You are insane, Tesla was pure Serb.
He has nothing to do with Turkic people.
First princes of Serbs and Croats were Turkics.

Proto-Shaman
08-07-2017, 10:31 PM
He is a pure serb get over the fact hes not Turkic stop spreading bullshit propaganda turks were mongols originally
Your father was a Mongol Cetnik.

Сербо Макеридов
08-08-2017, 12:49 PM
First princes of Serbs and Croats were Turkics.

R1a in Serbia is 18%, and among Bosnian Serbs is 20%, are you trying to say that these people are Turkic origin by male line?

https://eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Voskos
08-08-2017, 01:13 PM
Stefan Dusan must have been I2a without a doubt.

Сербо Макеридов
08-08-2017, 01:17 PM
Stefan Dusan must have been I2a without a doubt.

He certainly was not E-V13 or J2b.

Voskos
08-08-2017, 01:22 PM
He is descended from Nemanja isn't he? Have any of their descendants been tested?

Сербо Макеридов
08-08-2017, 01:34 PM
He is descended from Nemanja isn't he? Have any of their descendants been tested?

Yes, he is descendant of Stefan Nemanja.

Relics (bones) of all relurs of Nemanjić dynasty are preserved, but Serbian Orthodox Church still does not allow to carry out DNA analysis, because they tnink it's a desecration of relics.

Rethel
08-08-2017, 05:54 PM
Yes, he is descendant of Stefan Nemanja.

Proof?

Сербо Макеридов
08-08-2017, 06:11 PM
Proof?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Nemanjic_dynasty_family_tree.png/1200px-Nemanjic_dynasty_family_tree.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemanjić_dynasty

Rethel
08-08-2017, 06:13 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/70/Nemanjic_dynasty_family_tree.png/1200px-Nemanjic_dynasty_family_tree.png

And where is our hero? Tree is ending in Middle Ages...

Сербо Макеридов
08-08-2017, 06:18 PM
And where is our hero? Tree is ending in Middle Ages...

In the lower lefr corner writes Stefan Uroš IV Dušan.

Rethel
08-08-2017, 07:25 PM
In the lower lefr corner writes Stefan Uroš IV Dušan.

And what?
Where is Tesla?

p.s. I got it, you was talking about someone else.
But I want to remind you, that this is thread about Tesla, not other people.
I have no power to create new thread from offtopic, and normal mods are
too lazy to do this, so please stick to the thread's topic.

Dick
08-08-2017, 09:19 PM
R1a or I1.

Probably R1a since the dynasty goes back to the 7th century when the original Serbs trekked southward from "White Serbia". R1a is highest among Lusatian Serbs today.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Dervan.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Migration_of_serbs04_01.png/800px-Migration_of_serbs04_01.png
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/White_serbia_white_croatia01.png/800px-White_serbia_white_croatia01.png

Turkminator
08-09-2017, 10:01 AM
So, he was a slavized Turk, like the rest of the R1a people in the Balkans. We will bring our lost sons back to the kingdom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjdaHVn26vg&t=199s

catgeorge
08-09-2017, 10:03 AM
Funny watching a military parade of brown people with european background music :p

epirot
08-09-2017, 10:04 AM
So, he was a slavized Turk,

that's what happens to all turks eventually.

Proto-Shaman
08-09-2017, 11:24 PM
Funny watching a military parade of brown people with european background music :p
Funny to see a self-declared white Greek with Turkic R1b-L23 Kurgan roots xD

Proto-Shaman
08-09-2017, 11:28 PM
R1a in Serbia is 18%, and among Bosnian Serbs is 20%, are you trying to say that these people are Turkic origin by male line?

https://eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml

Concerning the accounts of the seven Croatian tribes and personal names mentioned by Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos, and the "Belye Ugry" (White Oghurs - or Saragurs,[5] Sarygurs/Sary Oghurs[6]) of the Russian chronicle Povest, there are found Turkic-named governors among Croats in the first generations, but later they disappear and the people became purely Slavic.

Novi Pazar
08-10-2017, 01:20 AM
that's what happens to all turks eventually.

Real Turks are Koreans, Japanese and Mongolians, the rest are bastardised with ever they contacted.

Novi Pazar
08-10-2017, 01:26 AM
Concerning the accounts of the seven Croatian tribes and personal names mentioned by Constantine VII Porphyrogennetos, and the "Belye Ugry" (White Oghurs - or Saragurs,[5] Sarygurs/Sary Oghurs[6]) of the Russian chronicle Povest, there are found Turkic-named governors among Croats in the first generations, but later they disappear and the people became purely Slavic.

The name Hrvat (Croat) was a Romanised form of Havarati (Avar). Romans couldn't pronounce Avar so Havarati was used, then Slavicised to Hrvat. Some modern Croats have Mongol Turk Avarian ancestry, however the vast majority 80% are Serbs.

Proto-Shaman
08-10-2017, 01:29 AM
The name Hrvat (Croat) was a Romanised form of Havarati (Avar). Romans couldn't pronounce Avar so Havarati was used, then Slavicised to Hrvat. Some modern Croats have Mongol Turk Avarian ancestry, however the vast majority 80% are Serbs.
Agree. Avars are of Oghur branch.

Novi Pazar
08-10-2017, 03:25 AM
^ thank you. The modern Croat name Bayan decends from the Avars that blended into the Croat nation when they settled there.

Cool Story Bro
08-10-2017, 06:01 AM
The name Hrvat (Croat) was a Romanised form of Havarati (Avar). Romans couldn't pronounce Avar so Havarati was used, then Slavicised to Hrvat. Some modern Croats have Mongol Turk Avarian ancestry, however the vast majority 80% are Serbs.

There are couple of theories about the origin of the word Croat. Most logical one is that it came from the old slavic word hrbat (hrvat/croat) which means highlanders/mountaineers. During that period of time White Croats lived in mountainous land of Karpati (modern day Poland/Ukraine) so it makes perfect sense.

Btw. while you at it why dont you explain whats the origin of the word serbia/servia? I know in latin serv means slave.

Drawing-slim
08-10-2017, 06:16 AM
Tesla was 100% 12a1b3a, my exact subclade. I read more about his nature cuz thats more important, and also his physique is a lot like mine and my cousins. No doubt me and Tesla are same ancient unique balkan blood. As i said, i recognize myself in tesla's nature. The man above all others. And he died broke, just like I most likely will:cool:

Proto-Shaman
08-10-2017, 11:31 PM
why the enmity between Croats and Serbs? both of them are Slavs...
https://shop.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/12245941,width=178,height=178/jackie-chan.png

Novi Pazar
08-10-2017, 11:40 PM
There are couple of theories about the origin of the word Croat. Most logical one is that it came from the old slavic word hrbat (hrvat/croat) which means highlanders/mountaineers. During that period of time White Croats lived in mountainous land of Karpati (modern day Poland/Ukraine) so it makes perfect sense.

Btw. while you at it why dont you explain whats the origin of the word serbia/servia? I know in latin serv means slave.

White Croats, red Croats, green Croats, purple Croats, orange Croats, so multi coloured....all bs. Yes l can explain, the Greeks pronounced b as v or mp as b so for example Serbi (Srbi) was written according to their Alphabet as Ser(v)i and Sarbatians as Sar(m)atians.

Novi Pazar
08-10-2017, 11:47 PM
why the enmity between Croats and Serbs? both of them are Slavs...
https://shop.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/12245941,width=178,height=178/jackie-chan.png

The demonic Catholic Church and its Clearical Fascism warped the innocent people to blindly hate its neighbours! Roman Catholism is such a dirty religion, l would, if l had to choose between Islam and Catholism, it would be ISLAM in a heartbeat.

Proto-Shaman
08-11-2017, 12:19 AM
The demonic Catholic Church and its Clearical Fascism warped the innocent people to blindly hate its neighbours! Roman Catholism is such a dirty religion, l would, if l had to choose between Islam and Catholism, it would be ISLAM in a heartbeat.
Wouldn't be Evangelicalism still nearer to your taste than Islam?

Novi Pazar
08-11-2017, 01:03 AM
^ they all don't have monasticism like Orthodox Christian, just look into Kosovo and Metohija. Please listen to Imran Hosseini.

epirot
08-11-2017, 10:06 AM
why the enmity between Croats and Serbs? both of them are Slavs...
https://shop.spreadshirt.com/image-server/v1/designs/12245941,width=178,height=178/jackie-chan.png

because it is manufactured/advertised by the west.

epirot
08-11-2017, 10:07 AM
The demonic Catholic Church and its Clearical Fascism warped the innocent people to blindly hate its neighbours! Roman Catholism is such a dirty religion, l would, if l had to choose between Islam and Catholism, it would be ISLAM in a heartbeat.

+10000000000

Proto-Shaman
08-11-2017, 10:11 PM
I support my R1a comrade Serbs and Croats against R1b demonic west.

Сербо Макеридов
08-11-2017, 10:14 PM
I support my R1a comrade Serbs and Croats against R1b demonic west.

Go away Turkish mongoloid troll, Serbs and other Slavs have R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 and those are Slavic branches.

Turkic mongoloid people have R1a-Z93, and that haplogroup does not exist among Slavic people.

Novi Pazar
08-12-2017, 12:08 AM
^ the poster doesn't mean harm Brate moj.

Proto-Shaman
08-12-2017, 12:24 AM
Go away Turkish mongoloid troll, Serbs and other Slavs have R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 and those are Slavic branches.

Turkic mongoloid people have R1a-Z93, and that haplogroup does not exist among Slavic people.

visit: www.Turkic-R1a-master-race.com

epirot
08-12-2017, 06:02 AM
I support my R1a comrade Serbs and Croats against R1b demonic west.

west will eat you as well, its just a matter of who they will eat first.

Proto-Shaman
08-12-2017, 05:24 PM
west will eat you as well, its just a matter of who they will eat first.
They already tried it between 1915-1916, and failed: Gallipoli Campaign (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campaign)

http://i.imgur.com/jzYz5OH.png

In 2016 they tried it a 2nd time: 2016 Turkish NATO-Gladio coup d'état attempt (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Turkish_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat_attempt)

NATO’s Secret Armies. Operation GLADIO and the Strategy of Tension - by Dr. Daniele Ganser (https://www.danieleganser.ch/assets/files/Inhalte/Interviews/Zeitungsinterviews/GlobalResearch%20(2016)%20-%20NATOs%20Secret%20Armies.pdf)

http://i.imgur.com/qG9jWN6.png

epirot
08-12-2017, 07:31 PM
You are their bitches in NATO, you are still useful. If/When they decide the time has come to consume you, they will put on you the kind of sanctions they put on Serbs or Russians, and then you will see the next coup will not be so unsuccessful. There is no coup while Beko, Toyotas and Hyndais are exported. Be reasonable.

Novi Pazar
08-13-2017, 02:08 AM
^ the Turkish elite are crypto Jews (Zionists) and closely allied with Israel just like the Saudi (Jewish) royals also. Erdogan is a Sephardic Jew!

Proto-Shaman
08-13-2017, 02:35 AM
You are their bitches in NATO, you are still useful. If/When they decide the time has come to consume you, they will put on you the kind of sanctions they put on Serbs or Russians, and then you will see the next coup will not be so unsuccessful. There is no coup while Beko, Toyotas and Hyndais are exported. Be reasonable.
A next millitary coup won't happen, since most GLADIO staff is in custody right now. The only solution to divide Turkey is to inflame the Kurdish problem. Retired Colonel Atilla Uğur already warned about it. British spies went into Kurdish villages. They gained nothing. Instead, just 4 months after the coup attempt, the west got another punch into the face at El Bab: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Bab

http://i.imgur.com/uD1J7IM.png

http://i.imgur.com/7qfI8rj.png

epirot
08-13-2017, 04:33 AM
A next millitary coup won't happen, since most GLADIO staff is in custody right now. The only solution to divide Turkey is to inflame the Kurdish problem. Retired Colonel Atilla Uğur already warned about it. British spies went into Kurdish villages. They gained nothing. Instead, just 4 months after the coup attempt, the west got another punch into the face at El Bab: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_al-Bab


Apparently you missed the word "sanctions". There hasn't been a SINGLE western intervention in the last 500 years which didn't start with economic isolation and embargoes. All those you mention are mere technicalities. I had great hopes that Turks are one level above pseudo-greeks and albanians.

epirot
08-13-2017, 04:46 AM
Hakan bro, I cannot believe how you feel the west is in a direct war against you while you are still in NATO and you do most of their dirty work in the balkans and the middle east. When they decide to finish you off, they will kick you out of NATO, then put sanctions against you, demonize you, and then plan and execute some orange revolution from inside, most probably Instabul where most of the leftists act and live. You made me write to you this second message cause I cannot believe you missed it so badly.

You suffer (in a smaller degree) from the disease of most 3-rd tier nations inside the western institutions : chronic loss of touch with reality caused by heavy western baby-sitting.

PS

DID YOU JUST CALL a victory of the western-created "Free Syrian Army" a punch to the western face? Since when is a NATO victory a punch to NATO's face? THIS IS GETTING SURREAL.

epirot
08-13-2017, 04:55 AM
^ the Turkish elite are crypto Jews (Zionists) and closely allied with Israel just like the Saudi (Jewish) royals also. Erdogan is a Sephardic Jew!

That's pretty reasonable! This explains why the western ravens have not really touched the Turks yet. Can't say about Turk's brother nation NORTH KOREA the same tho :)

Proto-Shaman
08-15-2017, 01:22 PM
DID YOU JUST CALL a victory of the western-created "Free Syrian Army" a punch to the western face?
No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_military_intervention_in_Syria

epirot
08-15-2017, 03:52 PM
No.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_military_intervention_in_Syria

You downed the Russian aircraft. How much more anti-NATO can it get ? LOL.

Proto-Shaman
08-15-2017, 07:09 PM
You downed the Russian aircraft. How much more anti-NATO can it get ? LOL.
it was Fetullah Gülen (CIA, NATO-GLADIO job). well-known fact.

epirot
08-15-2017, 07:27 PM
it was Fetullah Gülen (CIA, NATO-GLADIO job). well-known fact.

So, some aspects of the Turkish invasion in Syria were NATO-job, while others were anti-NATO, and overall, even after GLADIO (whatever that means) you are still in NATO? Your country must suffer from overt schizophrenia.

Rethel
08-15-2017, 07:35 PM
Why is it, that when Balkanites or Muslims arrived to the thread, he is going down...?

Turkminator
08-15-2017, 07:47 PM
So, some aspects of the Turkish invasion in Syria were NATO-job, while others were anti-NATO, and overall, even after GLADIO (whatever that means) you are still in NATO? Your country must suffer from overt schizophrenia.

You do not have to get out of Nato. You can enjoy all the benefits.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CQfwloEll8

Proto-Shaman
08-15-2017, 08:09 PM
So, some aspects of the Turkish invasion in Syria were NATO-job, while others were anti-NATO, and overall, even after GLADIO (whatever that means) you are still in NATO? Your country must suffer from overt schizophrenia.
You don't even understand 1%. Sorry dude. But you have much to learn.


NATO’s Secret Armies. Operation GLADIO and the Strategy of Tension - by Dr. Daniele Ganser (https://www.danieleganser.ch/assets/files/Inhalte/Interviews/Zeitungsinterviews/GlobalResearch%20(2016)%20-%20NATOs%20Secret%20Armies.pdf)

lol... you don't know GLADIO, although I have posted a paper on it?

https://libcom.org/files/NATOs_secret_armies.pdf

http://www.a-w-i-p.com/media/blogs/articles/Articles5/gladio_large_2.jpg

epirot
08-16-2017, 06:26 AM
Alrighty, now that you explained what NATO's secret armies are you can go back to NATO ass-licking. I cannot believe you guys are more naive that albanians. Lets recap : You know nothing about being West's target. Nothing. You would not survive this.

Sir Brothel of Brotheley same holds true for you. Why don't you all of you GET THE FUCK OUT of Serbia's forum.

Rethel
08-16-2017, 09:16 AM
On the very unkindly demand of Epirot, this thread will be removed from here.

epirot
08-16-2017, 10:12 AM
On the very unkindly demand of Epirot, this thread will be removed from here.

wanna play nice as a good Slav with the rest of south Slavs here? Ok. Otherwise pseudo-nazi behaviors will not be tolerated. I never asked any removal Mr "English Dictionary".

Rethel
08-16-2017, 11:38 AM
wanna play nice as a good Slav with the rest of south Slavs here? Ok. Otherwise pseudo-nazi behaviors will not be tolerated. I never asked any removal Mr "English Dictionary".

You said this to me, so I am going out. Bye.

Btw, what is the sense isulting people in your own language? :picard2:
Do you feel better after that? Are you really so much corrupted?

66480

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=66480&d=1502883470

epirot
08-16-2017, 12:57 PM
You said this to me, so I am going out. Bye.

Btw, what is the sense isulting people in your own language? :picard2:
Do you feel better after that? Are you really so much corrupted?


of course I feel bad, but you have worked so hard for this. BTW, publicizing private info is considered UNETHICAL in most EUROPEAN cultures. Bye bye.

BTW, you are in urgent need of lessons in English.

Rethel
08-16-2017, 06:11 PM
of course I feel bad, but you have worked so hard for this.


How?


BTW, publicizing private info is considered UNETHICAL in most EUROPEAN cultures. Bye bye.

BTW, you are in urgent need of lessons in English.

So if you not want them to be published, do not nagate what you did say there.
Btw, I did not ask you to write to me, neither was a pleasure to read your insults,
so I do not care what you think. If you behave like the cattle, you cannot ask for
the treatment applying to normal human being.

Сербо Макеридов
09-06-2017, 03:31 AM
I support my R1a comrade Serbs and Croats against R1b demonic west.

I do not know about Croats, but among Serbs haplogroup R1b is not so popular.

TEUTORIGOS
09-06-2017, 03:36 AM
I support my R1a comrade Serbs and Croats against R1b demonic west.


R1b super human demon checking in. Resistance is futile mere mortals :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2Hp7p_z4vk

Сербо Макеридов
09-06-2017, 03:44 AM
Frequency of R1b haplogroup among south Slavs is very low, in Serbia R1b is 6%, in Croatia 8,5%, in Montenegro 9,5%, in Bosnia and Herzegovina 3,5%.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/60/4a/04/604a0404b625afa8e6d46c89c3c1f676.gif

Kouros
09-06-2017, 03:44 AM
Some (anti/pseudo)-Greek (ex)-Vlachs even claimed that Tesla was Greek because his ancestors came supposedly from Thesally (Tesalia)
Never heard that in my fucking life don't bullshit me. I've only ever heard that he was either Serbian, Croatian, or Austrian, nothing else.

Rethel
09-06-2017, 11:30 AM
Frequency of R1b haplogroup among south Slavs is very low,

R1 at all is low. (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?220042-In-majority-Balkanites-are-not-Indoeuropeans)
10-15% R1b it is high % - when you compare it to all R1.

Сербо Макеридов
09-06-2017, 11:43 AM
R1 at all is low. (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?220042-In-majority-Balkanites-are-not-Indoeuropeans)
10-15% R1b it is high % - when you compare it to all R1.

Serbs are probably have the highest percentage of paleo-European Y DNA (I haplogroup) of all nations.

In Serbia I2a is 35%, I1 9%, and I2b 1%, which is 45% of I haplogroup.

Among ethnic Serbs I haplogroup is even higher (probably around 50%), Serbia is multiethnic country with 20% non-Serbs and results for country Serbia are not same as results for ethnic Serbs.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-06-2017, 11:53 AM
From Facebook.
Another Leftpedian myth debunked.

The inventor of Serbian-American Nikola Tesla most probably does not belong to the haplogroup I-CTS10228.
The first tested Tesla with haplogroup I2a is most likely the descendant of a man who entered Tesla and got the last name of Tesla through the female line. The man's name was Kalinic.

The tested second Tesla was tested two months ago and belongs to the haplogroup R1a-M458 and has a family tree and is directly related to Nikola Tesla by the male line. Direct ancestor of Tesla belonging to R1a and grandfather of Nikola Tesla were born brothers.

We will have to wait to test another or possibly two Tesla to have a final confirmation. However, it is almost certain that Nikola Tesla had a haplogroup R1a. Because Tesla was tested in close association with Nikola Tesla, four knees share them with common ancestors.

Tested Tesla's 2 test done at Belgrade's Serbia, DNA lab. The result is:
DYS393, DYS390, DYS19, DYS385a, DYS385b, DYS439, DYS389i, DYS392, DYS389ii, DYS458, DYS437, DYS448, YGATAH4, DYS456, DYS576, DYS570, DYS438, DYS481, DYS549, DYS533, DYS635, DYS643

13 25 16 10 11-14--12 13 11 29 16-----14 20------11--17-19 21---11 25 12 12 23 10
R1a-M458> CTS11962

source: www.poreklo.rs, Serbian DNA

R1a-M458 branch is Germano-Slavic type.

Сербо Макеридов
09-06-2017, 11:54 AM
R1a-M458 branch is Germano-Slavic type.

Not Germanic, just clearly Slavic.

Rethel
09-06-2017, 03:51 PM
Did someone delete my link about Einstein... interesting who it could be?

Probably a Jew with mod power! :laugh:

=>> https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_einstein.htm :bored:

Vlatko Vukovic
09-06-2017, 03:57 PM
[QUOTE=Kipchak Håkan;4624184] I support my R1a comrade Serbs and Croats against R1b demonic west.

South Slavs are not mostly R1a. We are I2a2.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-07-2017, 10:05 PM
Nogai ancestry confirmed

Nogai ancestry? Are you joking?

Proto-Shaman
09-07-2017, 10:33 PM
Nogai ancestry? Are you joking?
Yes. Nogai M458 is ancestral to all other M458 mutations. I was not joking :)

Vlatko Vukovic
09-07-2017, 10:42 PM
Yes. Nogai M458 is ancestral to all other M458 mutations. I was not joking :)

So Nikola Tesla have Turkic origin, according to you?

Nogais are turkic.

Proto-Shaman
09-07-2017, 10:47 PM
So Nikola Tesla have Turkic origin, according to you?

Nogais are turkic.
Only Oghur Corded Ware. Oghurs are the most Indo-European admixed Turkic branch and the most distant to all other Turkic branches. Nogais have Scythian ancestry.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-07-2017, 10:54 PM
Only Oghur Corded Ware. Oghurs are the most Indo-European admixed Turkic branch and the most distant to all other Turkic branches. Nogais have Scythian ancestry.

Nikola Tesla? Oghur ancestry? Are you serious man? His branch of R1a is defined as "Germano-Slavic". Oghurs have nothing common with him.

Сербо Макеридов
09-07-2017, 11:04 PM
Nikola Tesla? Oghur ancestry? Are you serious man? His branch of R1a is defined as "Germano-Slavic". Oghurs have nothing common with him.

Those are Turkish bullshit

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/R-M458_frequency_distribution.PNG

R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 are 100% Slavic, neither Turkic and neither Germanic, Turkic/Indo-Aryan is R1a-Z93, and Germanic (Scandinavian) is R1a-Z284.

Dick
09-07-2017, 11:08 PM
lol

Proto-Shaman
09-08-2017, 12:34 AM
Nikola Tesla? Oghur ancestry? Are you serious man? His branch of R1a is defined as "Germano-Slavic". Oghurs have nothing common with him.

Valentyn Stetsyuk: Türks as Carriers of the Corded Ware Cultures (http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Alterling/Bulgar.html)

Quotes from Stetsyuk:


The Türks themselves as nomads were in a much smaller number and could not settle on the vast expanse of Europe, where they left traces of their Corded Ware culture (hereinafter CWC). However, due to inherent for nomads militancy and better organization they subordinated Trypillians their cultural influence, impose the way of life and, obviously, the language, as it is evidenced by numerous place names of Türkic origin in Central and Northern Europe.

[...]
When covering the topic of Türkic expansion we will rely heavily on the Bulgarian toponymy, the vast majority of which can be interpreted by the Chuvash language, what suggests that the Bulgarian ethnic element was prevalent among Corded Ware Culture.

http://i.imgur.com/xIYdXZF.png

- purple dots mark localities with Bulgarish origin of the name, which may correspond to the times of CWC or close to them.
- Maroon – the later, of Scythian period.
- Asterisks star marks known single or group sites of CWC.
- light brown area shows Indo-Europeans
- light green area is the territory of the spread Fatyanovo and Balanovo cultures.
- Hydronyms of Bulgarish origin are indicated by turquoise dots.
- yellow dots = Semitic + Chuvash
- red = Chuvash
...
The Turks originally belonged to the European race. Study of skulls from burials of CWC gives grounds to say that the carriers om them were naturally people of Caucasoid type.
...
The large number of settlements which names have the root of turk/ turk (Turkovo, Turka, Turku, Túrkeve, Turkeye, Thürkow, Thurgau, Turgi, Torgau, etc.) speaks of the significance of trade in the economic activity of the ancient Bulgars. There are more than twenty these names in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary, Germany, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Finland. All of them come from Old Bulgar *turku "place of exchange, trade".

Carleton Coon: Corded people and introduction of Altaic speech into Europe (http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/65_Craniology/CoonCordedCultureEn.htm)

Quotes from Coon:


One whole school of European archaeologists and linguists associates the Corded people with the diffusion of Indo-European speech. 10 Nehring, in a recent work of great detail and authority, would make the Danubians the original Indo Europeans.11 He would explain the Altaic cultural similarities by dividing the Indo-European culture and vocabulary into two elements:

(1) an early horizon in which the ox was the most important domestic animal economically, and agriculture of primary importance;
(2) a later horizon of indirect Altaic inspiration, in which the horse was supreme and agriculture secondary.

[...]

The Danubians who settled the fertile plains and valleys of eastern and central Europe already spoke basic Indo-European; the Finno-Ugrian-Caucasic blend which produced this linguistic entity took place before their migration westward. The introduction of Altaic words, particularly those concerned with the care of the horse, were infused into the previous Indo European linguistic blend at the time of strongest Corded influence in central Europe, which produced the Aunjetitz culture.

[...]

An inruption of relatively unmixed Corded invaders from their eastern center, about 2200 B.C., brought the Altaic linguistic element noted by Nehring in Indo-European speech into central Europe, and produced, by a blending of these Corded invaders with European Danubian racial elements, the European Nordics, who, during the Late Bronze Age and the Iron Age, spread Indo-European speech over a wide area.

In the middle of the second millennium B.C., during the full Bronze Age, one branch of these Indo-European speakers, the Iranians, spread eastward from their home in southern Russia across the country north of the Black Sea into Turkestan, and thence some of them went southward into Afghanistan and India, bearing with them their original cattle and farming culture which they had brought from their earlier home, with a minimum of horse culture elements.
Other Iranians remained on the plains, and took over the horse nomadism which the Altaic speakers had already developed. That they mixed with Altaic speakers, as the legend of the Scythian youths and Amazon maidens would suggest, is probable, owing to their acquisition of a low cranial vault and a wide face, eastern Nordic traits which at this time were foreign to western Europe. The importance of Altaic god names in what is known of the Scythian language would support this contention. These Iranians spread the horse culture westward to the Danube and eastward to China, and pushed those of their Altaic-speaking predecessors whom they had failed to absorb northward and eastward into Siberia and Mongolia.
26 This is substantiated by the fact that some of the Neolithic skulls from Lake Baikal studied by Debetz are of Mediterranean type, while others resemble those of modern Tungus.
Debetz, G., RAJ, vol. 19, 1930, pp. 750; AZM, vol. 2, 1932, pp. 2648.

[...]

Of two elements in this reconstruction we are reasonably sure; that the ancestors of some of the living Turks, including the Turkomans, Azerbaijanis, and Osmanlis, were always white men, and that the Corded people were racially related to the inhabitants of the Iranian plateau in antiquity.

(keep in mind, Turks are considered as Mongoloid-shifted white men by both author's)

Vlatko Vukovic
09-08-2017, 03:56 AM
Valentyn Stetsyuk: Türks as Carriers of the Corded Ware Cultures (http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Alterling/Bulgar.html)

Quotes from Stetsyuk:



Carleton Coon: Corded people and introduction of Altaic speech into Europe (http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/65_Craniology/CoonCordedCultureEn.htm)

Quotes from Coon:



(keep in mind, Turks are considered as Mongoloid-shifted white men by both author's)

Sorry man, but i don't understand you. As i see you claims that R1a Indoeuropeans and R1a Turks have same ancestors....

Proto-Shaman
09-09-2017, 12:34 PM
Sorry man, but i don't understand you. As i see you claims that R1a Indoeuropeans and R1a Turks have same ancestors....
Well, thats the point where genetics played a tricky game with linguistics. I do not expect anybody to understand. The same goes for R1b and all other haplos.

Rethel
09-09-2017, 12:54 PM
As i see you claims that R1a Indoeuropeans and R1a Turks have same ancestors....

It would be fine, if he would.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-09-2017, 10:42 PM
Well, thats the point where genetics played a tricky game with linguistics. I do not expect anybody to understand. The same goes for R1b and all other haplos.

Your language family is total alien compared to other European languages.

Proto-Shaman
09-10-2017, 02:02 AM
Your language family is total alien compared to other European languages.
Sorry, no:

http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Altay.html

Indo-European is a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Turks, some 6,000 years ago.

Rethel
09-10-2017, 10:39 AM
:picard2:

Vlatko Vukovic
09-10-2017, 10:45 AM
Valentyn Stetsyuk: Türks as Carriers of the Corded Ware Cultures (http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Alterling/Bulgar.html)

Quotes from Stetsyuk:



Carleton Coon: Corded people and introduction of Altaic speech into Europe (http://s155239215.onlinehome.us/turkic/65_Craniology/CoonCordedCultureEn.htm)

Quotes from Coon:



(keep in mind, Turks are considered as Mongoloid-shifted white men by both author's)

Hahah. So you think that proto-Turks were Indo-Europeans? I don't think so. Even your old religion were similar to Mongoloid - Tengrism. Indo-European religions were totally different religions. They had similar religious things. Slavs believed in god Perun,Swarog,Svetovid,Jarillo,etc.. Nords in Odin, Thor... Greeks in Zeus etc etc... Tengrism is totally diffrent civilisation and religion then this.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-10-2017, 10:46 AM
Sorry, no:

http://www.v-stetsyuk.name/en/Altay.html

Indo-European is a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Turks, some 6,000 years ago.

Not true, Turks are a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Mongols. So you don't have race. You are europid-mongol admixture called Turanid. :)

And also, Turkic origin are Xiognu warriors, from China :)

Proto-Shaman
09-11-2017, 02:47 AM
Not true, Turks are a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Mongols.

1. Indo-European as a branch of Uralo-Altaic was transformed under the influence of a Caucasian substratum (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?203039-European-R1a-vs-Asian-R1a-Which-one-would-you-choose&p=4241902&viewfull=1#post4241902)

...the linguistic evidence from our family does not lead us beyond Gimbutas’ secondary homeland and that the Khvalynsk culture on the middle Volga and the Maykop culture in the northern Caucasus cannot be identified with the Indo-Europeans. Any proposal which goes beyond the Sredny Stog culture must start from the possible affinities of Indo-European with other language families. It is usually recognized that the best candidate in this respect is the Uralic language family, while further connections with the Altaic languages and perhaps even Dravidian are possible... What we do have to take into account is the typological similarity of Proto-Indo-European to the North-West Caucasian (i.e. Adyg) languages. If this similarity can be attributed to areal factors, we may think of Indo-European as a branch of Uralo-Altaic which was transformed under the influence of a Caucasian substratum. It now appears that this view is actually supported by the archaeological evidence. If it is correct, we may locate the earliest (Uralo-Altaic) ancestors of the speakers of Proto-Indo-European north of the Caspian Sea in the seventh millennium. [F.Kortlandt, Journal of Indo-European Studies, Volume 18, 1990, p.131]

https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif
You see? :rolleyes: Indo-European is a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Turks, some 6,000 years ago :)


So you don't have race. You are europid-mongol admixture called Turanid. :)

2. http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/turanid_race

In European literature of the period a "Turanid race" was widely known as a Europid subtype, dwelling on the borders of the two racial groups since primeval times.

https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif


And also, Turkic origin are Xiognu warriors, from China :)

3. Xiongnu = Europoids with long yellow beard ((((:

“While we still cannot answer with certainty the question of the ethnic identity, the reconstruction of the process of its breakup inevitably leads to the inference that the original Xiongnu federation had a major Europoid component.”

Sanping Chen: "Multicultural China in the Early Middle Ages." University of Pennsylvania Press, 2012. p.94. (http://books.google.com/books?id=ugbWH-5OjegC)

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“Anthropologically, the Huns of Talas, the Tien- shan and Alai are characterized by a very slight admixture of Mongoloid blood", and their Europoid traits were gaining more and more prominence throughout the second and fourth centuries”

I︠U︡riĭ Vladimirovich Gankovskiĭ. "The Peoples of Pakistan: An Ethnic History". Nauka Publishing House, Central Department of Oriental Literature, 1971. p.92. (http://books.google.com/books?id=plw9AAAAMAAJ)

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“As archaeologist, O. Maenchen- Helfen found the Hunni different from the Hiung-nu in China.52 He, however, as a result of the analysis of Soviet archaeological reports, recognised the mainly Europoid physique of the Hiung-nu. From some Chinese evidence it seems that the Hiung-nu had long yellow beards, …”

Harold Walter Bailey. "Khotanese Texts, Volume 7", Cambridge University Press, 1985. p. 25. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=OOK-fBNwZ7kC)

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“Scientists have thus confirmed the conclusion V.P.Alekseeva, I.M.Mizieva K.P.Laypanova and promotion of primary tribes from west to east. It turns out that, ultimately, the Turkic tribes began as Caucasoids in the Volga-Urals region.”

"Эхо веков". тип. Татарского газетно-журнального изд-ва, 1999. p. 288. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=ru&id=EfciAQAAIAAJ)

https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif

Vlatko Vukovic
09-11-2017, 04:26 AM
1. Indo-European as a branch of Uralo-Altaic was transformed under the influence of a Caucasian substratum (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?203039-European-R1a-vs-Asian-R1a-Which-one-would-you-choose&p=4241902&viewfull=1#post4241902)


https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif
You see? :rolleyes: Indo-European is a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Turks, some 6,000 years ago :)



2. http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/turanid_race


https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif



3. Xiongnu = Europoids with long yellow beard ((((:

“While we still cannot answer with certainty the question of the ethnic identity, the reconstruction of the process of its breakup inevitably leads to the inference that the original Xiongnu federation had a major Europoid component.”

Sanping Chen: "Multicultural China in the Early Middle Ages." University of Pennsylvania Press, 2012. p.94. (http://books.google.com/books?id=ugbWH-5OjegC)

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“Anthropologically, the Huns of Talas, the Tien- shan and Alai are characterized by a very slight admixture of Mongoloid blood", and their Europoid traits were gaining more and more prominence throughout the second and fourth centuries”

I︠U︡riĭ Vladimirovich Gankovskiĭ. "The Peoples of Pakistan: An Ethnic History". Nauka Publishing House, Central Department of Oriental Literature, 1971. p.92. (http://books.google.com/books?id=plw9AAAAMAAJ)

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“As archaeologist, O. Maenchen- Helfen found the Hunni different from the Hiung-nu in China.52 He, however, as a result of the analysis of Soviet archaeological reports, recognised the mainly Europoid physique of the Hiung-nu. From some Chinese evidence it seems that the Hiung-nu had long yellow beards, …”

Harold Walter Bailey. "Khotanese Texts, Volume 7", Cambridge University Press, 1985. p. 25. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=OOK-fBNwZ7kC)

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“Scientists have thus confirmed the conclusion V.P.Alekseeva, I.M.Mizieva K.P.Laypanova and promotion of primary tribes from west to east. It turns out that, ultimately, the Turkic tribes began as Caucasoids in the Volga-Urals region.”

"Эхо веков". тип. Татарского газетно-журнального изд-ва, 1999. p. 288. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=ru&id=EfciAQAAIAAJ)

https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif

Hahahahah you Turks are really brainwashed. Ancestors of the indo-europeans are from Anatolia. Ancient Anatolia. That is where our languages came from, not from Ural, where are your ancestors. Even in this time Turks didnt exist under this name, so, how can anybody could have been descedant of turks, if they didn't exist im this time. First official mention of the Turks is with Xiognu warriors near China. Nothing before. Just your brothers by religious and culture Mongols.

"Turanid sub Europid race" hahahahahahhahah. What a joke. Even caucasian race which is more normal looking then turkic mongol race is not European, how can then Turanid be European?" You can just admit your similarities from Mongols which was exist always. Kipchaks = Asians, like all Turks :)

Xiongnu with long yellow beard ? Hahahah. Go read some Chinese descriptions about them. They were classical steppe turkic-mongol warriors.

Vlatko Vukovic
09-11-2017, 04:36 AM
1. Indo-European as a branch of Uralo-Altaic was transformed under the influence of a Caucasian substratum (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?203039-European-R1a-vs-Asian-R1a-Which-one-would-you-choose&p=4241902&viewfull=1#post4241902)


https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif
You see? :rolleyes: Indo-European is a result of Caucasian sex orgies with Turks, some 6,000 years ago :)



2. http://www.worldlibrary.org/articles/turanid_race


https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif



3. Xiongnu = Europoids with long yellow beard ((((:

“While we still cannot answer with certainty the question of the ethnic identity, the reconstruction of the process of its breakup inevitably leads to the inference that the original Xiongnu federation had a major Europoid component.”

Sanping Chen: "Multicultural China in the Early Middle Ages." University of Pennsylvania Press, 2012. p.94. (http://books.google.com/books?id=ugbWH-5OjegC)

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“Anthropologically, the Huns of Talas, the Tien- shan and Alai are characterized by a very slight admixture of Mongoloid blood", and their Europoid traits were gaining more and more prominence throughout the second and fourth centuries”

I︠U︡riĭ Vladimirovich Gankovskiĭ. "The Peoples of Pakistan: An Ethnic History". Nauka Publishing House, Central Department of Oriental Literature, 1971. p.92. (http://books.google.com/books?id=plw9AAAAMAAJ)

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“As archaeologist, O. Maenchen- Helfen found the Hunni different from the Hiung-nu in China.52 He, however, as a result of the analysis of Soviet archaeological reports, recognised the mainly Europoid physique of the Hiung-nu. From some Chinese evidence it seems that the Hiung-nu had long yellow beards, …”

Harold Walter Bailey. "Khotanese Texts, Volume 7", Cambridge University Press, 1985. p. 25. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=OOK-fBNwZ7kC)

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“Scientists have thus confirmed the conclusion V.P.Alekseeva, I.M.Mizieva K.P.Laypanova and promotion of primary tribes from west to east. It turns out that, ultimately, the Turkic tribes began as Caucasoids in the Volga-Urals region.”

"Эхо веков". тип. Татарского газетно-журнального изд-ва, 1999. p. 288. (http://books.google.com/books?hl=ru&id=EfciAQAAIAAJ)

https://m.popkey.co/188515/A6kAy_s-200x150.gif

Scholars have suggested that the Xiongnu spoke a language related to the Mongolic languages. Mongolian archaeologists proposed that the Slab Grave Culture people were the ancestors of the Xiongnu, and some scholars have suggested that the Xiongnu may have been the ancestors of the Mongols.According to the "Book of Song", (section Joujan), Joujan's (Rouran Khaganate) alternative name was "Tatar" or "Tartar" and they were a Xiongnu tribe". Nikita Bichurin considered Xiongnu and Xianbei to be two subgroups (or dynasties) but the same ethnicity.

Genghis Khan refers to the time of Modu Chanyu as "the remote times of our Chanyu" in his letter to Daoist Qiu Chuji.Sun and moon symbol of Xiongnu that discovered by archaeologists is similar to Mongolian Soyombo symbol.

Wikipedia - Xiongnu

Relativity - Xiongnu,Turks,Mongols. Deal with it.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 04:40 AM
It's true, Nikola Tesla is R1a-M458.

Some guy with surname Tesla was tested few year ago and he is I2-PH908, but he say that he is not real Tesla, because his ancestor married some Tesla girl and adopted her surname, real surname of his ancestor was Kalinić.

Other guy with surname Tesla was tested about 2 month ago, he is from Lika from same village as Tesla's father (that guy and Tesla have a common ancestor in the male line) and he is R1a-M48.

Fuck off Albanians, Greeks and Vlachs mitoman Tesla is Slavic.

I am Greek , come to fuck me you fucking sucker
We dont give a shit about R1a Pakistanis ,Indians and Afgans

Osama Bin Landen was R1a

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 04:43 AM
I am Greek , come to fuck me you fucking sucker
We dont give a shit about R1a Pakistanis ,Indians and Afgans

Osama Bin Landen was R1a

Wrong imbecile.

Pakistanis, Indians and Afghans are R1a-Z93, and Tesla was R1a-M458 which is Slavic branch, R1a-Z280 is also Slavic branch.

Bin Laden probably was J1, he was from Saudi Arabia.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 04:43 AM
Those are Turkish bullshit

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/06/R-M458_frequency_distribution.PNG

R1a-M458 and R1a-Z280 are 100% Slavic, neither Turkic and neither Germanic, Turkic/Indo-Aryan is R1a-Z93, and Germanic (Scandinavian) is R1a-Z284.

Albanians and Greeks more Slavic than Serbs . LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Vyasa
09-11-2017, 04:44 AM
I am Greek , come to fuck me you fucking sucker
We dont give a shit about R1a Pakistanis ,Indians and Afgans

Osama Bin Landen was R1a

osama was probably E-V13 or J1. He was Saudi

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 04:46 AM
Albanians and Greeks more Slavic than Serbs . LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

No, you are genetically close to Turks.

Most dominant haplogroup among Greeks are Anatolian J2 and North African-Levantine E1b, and most dominant haplogroups among Serbs are I2a and R1a and both are Slavic.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 04:48 AM
Wrong imbecile.

Pakistanis, Indians and Afghans are R1a-Z93, and Tesla was R1a-M458 which is Slavic branch, R1a-Z280 is also Slavic branch.

Bin Laden probably was J1, he was from Saudi Arabia.

Wash your mouth , without Greeks you fucking pussies would be already fucked from anyone.
Next time go to your R1a polish gay friends for help

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 04:50 AM
No, you are genetically close to Turks.

Most dominant haplogroup among Greeks are Anatolian J2 and North African-Levantine E1b, and most dominant haplogroups among Serbs are I2a and R1a and both are Slavic.

J2 is Sea People and EV13 its native pelasgian.
Myceneans the best warriors in the planet was j2 and EV13 thousand years before ottomans come here

E1b dont exist in Greece, with the same logic you pussies are Pakistani R1a

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 04:53 AM
Wash your mouth , without Greeks you fucking pussies would be already fucked from anyone.
Next time go to your R1a polish gay friends for help

You Greek subhumans were committed genocide against Slavic Macedonians in Aegean Macedenia.


https://youtu.be/lRfrgu2qtXA

I am grateful to God because I'm not E-V13, J2 or J1 as Greeks, Analbanians, Arabs and Turks.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 04:58 AM
You Greek subhumans were committed genocide against Slavic Macedonians in Aegean Macedenia.


https://youtu.be/lRfrgu2qtXA

I am grateful to God because I'm not E-V13, J2 or J1 as Greeks, Analbanians and Turks.

Full of propaganda and lies, these kids there are Greek communist kids from greek civil war.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IsCO9QSZz0

End your lies again, let the kids sing songs in greek and dont cover it with music for propaganda

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:02 AM
@ DarknessWin

You are genetically close to Turks and Analbanians, deal with it.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/78/e9/e678e9cc0a6c69f1c505fe6313b8ada9.jpg

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:14 AM
No, you are genetically close to Turks.

Most dominant haplogroup among Greeks are Anatolian J2 and North African-Levantine E1b, and most dominant haplogroups among Serbs are I2a and R1a and both are Slavic.

You are funny but Ottomans belong to R1a . LOL

https://i.imgur.com/cfCVC51.png

When J2 and EV13 are native Medditeranean

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:18 AM
You are funny but Ottomans belong to R1a . LOL

https://i.imgur.com/cfCVC51.png

When J2 and EV13 are native Medditeranean

Hello uneducated Greek clown, Ottomans belong to Z-93 which have nothing to do with Slavs.

Slavic R1a is only M-458 and Z-280.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:19 AM
@ DarknessWin

You are genetically close to Turks and Analbanians, deal with it.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/e6/78/e9/e678e9cc0a6c69f1c505fe6313b8ada9.jpg

Serbia,Bosnia,Greece , Albania,Fyrom and Bulgaria all of them are almost the same in haplogroup

But we must notice something odd, Greece and Bulgaria are both more "Slavic" R1a than Serbia,Fyrom and bosnia LOL
How you missed that smartass???

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1a-M458.png

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:21 AM
Hello uneducated Greek clown, Ottomans belong to Z-93 which have nothing to do with Slavs.

Slavic R1a is only M-458 and Z-280.

You said that Ottomans were J2 but they were R1a.
So shut the fuck up now because J2 in Greece is minoan haplo

We are closer to Albanians and that's why i support Albanians now,
we fought for you pussies once but never again.
Albos will fuck you with our support

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:22 AM
Serbia,Bosnia,Greece , Albania,Fyrom and Bulgaria all of them are almost the same in haplogroup

But we must notice something odd, Greece and Bulgaria are both more "Slavic" R1a than Serbia,Fyrom and bosnia LOL
How you missed that smartass???

http://cache.eupedia.com/images/content/Haplogroup-R1a-M458.png

Y DNA of ethnic Serbs from Serbia https://postimg.org/image/69o108pkd/

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:27 AM
You said that Ottomans were J2 but they were R1a.
So shut the fuck up now because J2 in Greece is minoan haplo

We are closer to Albanians and that's why i support Albanians now,
we fought for you pussies once but never again.
Albos will fuck you with our support

Most dominant haplogroup among Turkish people is J2, Ottomans were descendants of Oghuzs by paternal line and because of that they were R1a-Z93.

Laberia
09-11-2017, 05:28 AM
You are funny but Ottomans belong to R1a . LOL

https://i.imgur.com/cfCVC51.png

When J2 and EV13 are native Medditeranean

Blepis malaka? How much you have fought protecting servs in this forum?

We would have killed them all ,
you know very well that Albanians and Greeks are enemies now
but Serbians are something more than Brothers to us today


You know people who truly love Greece are from Balkans , like Serbians,Romanians and Bulgarians.
We fought together in many wars and we are connected historically and culturally

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:29 AM
Most dominant haplogroup among Turkish people is J2, Ottomans were descendants of Oghuzs by paternal line and because of that they were R1a-Z93.

Because modern turks are assimilated Anatolians , Ottomans were R1a

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:30 AM
Blepis malaka? How much you have fought protecting servs in this forum?

Sorry bro , now i see.
Let me fuck them

Kosovo is Albania

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:31 AM
Because modern turks are assimilated Anatolians , Ottomans were R1a

Ottomans are not people Ottomans are dynasty.

And yes, Greeks are genetically conected with Anatolians (the worst nightmare of Lavrentis), deal with it.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:32 AM
Y DNA of ethnic Serbs from Serbia https://postimg.org/image/69o108pkd/

Greece have more R1a of Tesla type ,
Bulgaria have even more.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:32 AM
Ottomans are not people Ottomans are dynasty.

And yes, Greeks are genetically conected with Anatolians (the worst nightmare of Lavrentis), deal with it.

So Minoans and Myceneans were Anatolians too. LOL
Spartans were Anatolians too

Suck my dick and let me fuck your mother

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:36 AM
Greece have more R1a of Tesla type ,
Bulgaria have even more.

Are you blind, this is Y DNA of ethnic Serbs from Serbia https://postimg.org/image/69o108pkd/

Greeks only in your wet dream may have more than 21,75% R1a.

Greece have 11% R1a, and all R1a in Greece is from helenized Slavic Macedonians, some of them were helenized in the Middle Age and some in the last 100 years.

Laberia
09-11-2017, 05:38 AM
Pripet Marshes
REGION, EASTERN EUROPE
Written By:
The Editors of Encyclopædia Britannica
See Article History
Alternative Titles: Palesse, Palyessye, Polesie, Polesye, Polissya, Pripet Polesye


Pripet Marshes, Ukrainian Polissya, Belarusian Palyessye, Polish Polesie (“Woodlands”), vast waterlogged region of eastern Europe, among the largest wetlands of the European continent. The Pripet Marshes occupy southern Belarus and northern Ukraine. They lie in the thickly forested basin of the Pripet River (a major tributary of the Dnieper) and are bounded on the north by the Belarusian Ridge and on the south by the Volyn-Podilsk and Dnieper uplands. The marshes cover an area of approximately 104,000 square miles (270,000 square km). The distinctive natural traits of the Pripet Marshes are a wide development of saturated sandy lowlands, intersected by a dense network of rivers with weakly cut riverbeds and wide floodlands, and a prevalence of pine forests amid the wide expanse of low-lying bogs and marshes.
https://media1.britannica.com/eb-media/62/130062-004-675F00CB.jpg
The region experiences a warm temperate climate. The average annual precipitation reaches 22–26 inches (550–650 mm) and exceeds evaporation, giving sufficient—and in some places quite abundant—moisture. Combined with an abundance of subsoil waters and their proximity to the surface, a virtually unique soil saturation and associated bogging down of the surface are thus produced.

Numerous tributaries of the Pripet (including the Stokhid, Styr, Horyn [Goryn], Ubort, Yaselda, and Ptich rivers) course down into the swamps from the surrounding highlands, carrying in large amounts of water. In the spring, when snowmelt occurs, the region’s rivers overflow their low banks and intensify the saturation of the land. Huge marshes are developed along the course of the Pripet itself, while the middle of the river is marked by the soggy expanses of the Pinsk Marshes. The numerous lakes that dot the landscape are in various stages of choking up into additional bogs.

About one-third of the region is forested, consisting of pine, birch, alder, oak, aspen, white spruce, and hornbeam. The region has thus supported—where conditions permit—a diversified lumbering industry. Elk, lynx, wolf, fox, wild boar, roe, beaver, badger, and weasel are to be seen and are sometimes hunted. A host of birds, including black grouse, orioles, hazel grouse, woodpeckers, owls, blue tits, and ducks, inhabit the forests and marshlands. These too are hunted. Human intervention is most evident, however, in the sections of the region that are being developed and transformed into agricultural lands, where rye, barley, wheat, flax, hemp, potatoes, a variety of vegetables, and fodder grasses are cultivated.
Land-reclamation projects were first initiated in 1872 by a state-sponsored “western expedition for the drainage of swamps,” led by the Russian scholar I.I. Zhilinsky. A vast amount of land reclamation has taken place during the 20th century. A complex series of measures for achieving this formidable goal were under way during the late 20th century. They included the regulation of water drainage and the construction of reservoirs on the rivers, the regulation of river channels, afforestation of sandy uplands, and the clearing of undesirable vegetative cover.

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:39 AM
My cousin is married for Greek and that guy and his family and cousins looks like Armenians.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:40 AM
Are you blind, this is Y DNA of ethnic Serbs from Serbia https://postimg.org/image/69o108pkd/

Greeks only in your wet dream may have more than 21,75% R1a.

Greece have 11% R1a, and all R1a in Greece is from helenized Slavic Macedonians, some of them were helenized in the Middle Age and some in the last 100 years.

You fucking Idiot Greece have more R1a M58 from both Serbs and Fyromians ,
see the fucking map from Eupedia.
So how is possible it be from Fyromians??

Fyromians also are 25% EV13 ,
so 1/4 of Fyromians are assimilated ALbanians

Are you ok with this fucking shit???
Wish you good luck in the next war , without Greeks you are fucked

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 05:42 AM
My cousin is married for Greek and that guy and his family and cousins looks like Armenians.
Only some anatolians and pontians look like Armenians and they are not Greeks,
they are Hellenized caucasians.
So your cousin are indeed married to a Hellenized caucasian .

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:48 AM
You fucking Idiot Greece have more R1a M58 from both Serbs and Fyromians ,
see the fucking map from Eupedia.
So how is possible it be from Fyromians??

Fyromians also are 25% EV13 ,
so 1/4 of Fyromians are assimilated ALbanians

Are you ok with this fucking shit???
Wish you good luck in the next war , without Greeks you are fucked

You are retarded, all R1a in Greece is from helenized Slavs monkey boy.

Greeks never hepl us in any war.

Greeks suck cock of Vatican, Masons, USA, Germany, EU... disgusting and sad.

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 05:55 AM
Only some anatolians and pontians look like Armenians and they are not Greeks,
they are Hellenized caucasians.
So your cousin are indeed married to a Hellenized caucasian .

I do not know what is his far origin, but he is declared Greek.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 06:01 AM
You are retarded, all R1a in Greece is from helenized Slavs monkey boy.

Greeks never hepl us in any war.

Greeks suck cock of Vatican, Masons, USA, Germany, EU... disgusting and sad.


Greeks are the most anti-mason and anti-USA country in europe you idiot.
the only country that have organized far right Nationalist movement in parliament

Greek economic crisis created from Goldman Sachs and Jews , thats because Greece is Zionist as you say. LOL

Anyway i bored to speak with a gay like you , if you are man enough contact me in facebook and give me contact info to
meet me face to face. But i know how gay you are and pussies, i see your turists here never fought against Greeks
but only with some niggers and only 5 against 1.

I lost respect for you, we dont need to save your ass anytime.
Go suck Polish cocks, all of you up the north are cucks

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:39 AM
You Greek subhumans were committed genocide against Slavic Macedonians in Aegean Macedenia.


https://youtu.be/lRfrgu2qtXA

I am grateful to God because I'm not E-V13, J2 or J1 as Greeks, Analbanians, Arabs and Turks.


Brate nemoj izgubiti vrjeme sa siptarima. 95% od Grka, boga mi, pricaju i misle kao siptari. Zao mije.

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:42 AM
Are you blind, this is Y DNA of ethnic Serbs from Serbia https://postimg.org/image/69o108pkd/

Greeks only in your wet dream may have more than 21,75% R1a.

Greece have 11% R1a, and all R1a in Greece is from helenized Slavic Macedonians, some of them were helenized in the Middle Age and some in the last 100 years.

naravno on ne vidi nista. Englezi su ih jebeli za 200 godina.

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:43 AM
My cousin is married for Greek and that guy and his family and cousins looks like Armenians.

I pray to God that the Kids will be SLAVICIZED. Greek culture is SO weak compared to SERBIAN (food/dances/power/music/etc).

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 06:43 AM
Brate nemoj izgubiti vrjeme sa siptarima. 95% od Grka, boga mi, pricaju i misle kao siptari. Zao mije.

Primetio sam da mnogi Grci ne vole Srbe, u čemu je njihov problem sa Srbima?

Većina Srba ima pozitivno mišljenje o Grcima, mnogi Srbi ih smatraju braćom.

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:44 AM
You are retarded, all R1a in Greece is from helenized Slavs monkey boy.

Greeks never hepl us in any war.

Greeks suck cock of Vatican, Masons, USA, Germany, EU... disgusting and sad.

Greeks helped (a bit) in WWI by obeying orders from mama England.

Even the 1991-1995 pseudo Serb-greek "alliance" was an english hoax, only 100 greeks and no one really fought...

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:45 AM
Greeks are the most anti-mason and anti-USA country in europe you idiot.
the only country that have organized far right Nationalist movement in parliament

Greek economic crisis created from Goldman Sachs and Jews , thats because Greece is Zionist as you say. LOL

Anyway i bored to speak with a gay like you , if you are man enough contact me in facebook and give me contact info to
meet me face to face. But i know how gay you are and pussies, i see your turists here never fought against Greeks
but only with some niggers and only 5 against 1.

I lost respect for you, we dont need to save your ass anytime.
Go suck Polish cocks, all of you up the north are cucks

LMAO!!

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:48 AM
Serbo.

Ja sam pricao sa ovom siptarom na Grckom u grckom forumu, on nije ti pametnije nego prosecna siptara, ili nego ostalih grka...

Oni misle da Slaveni ne postoje!! Preko nekom nacino oni govori Slavenski jezici al Slaveni nisu !!! To je glavna Grcki logik. I on siptar kaze da Grci su anti-zionist ... HAHAHAHAHAHA

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 06:51 AM
I pray to God that the Kids will be SLAVICIZED. Greek culture is SO weak compared to SERBIAN (food/dances/power/music/etc).

Fuck your blood and every Serbian bitch and their country,
you are fucking pussies and weak cowards.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 06:52 AM
Primetio sam da mnogi Grci ne vole Srbe, u čemu je njihov problem sa Srbima?

Većina Srba ima pozitivno mišljenje o Grcima, mnogi Srbi ih smatraju braćom.

Fuck serbia and serbian coward pussies.
Hope for a war to destroy your assholes

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 06:52 AM
Serbo.

Ja sam pricao sa ovom siptarom na Grckom u grckom forumu, on nije ti pametnije nego prosecna siptara, ili nego ostalih grka...

Oni misle da Slaveni ne postoje!! Preko nekom nacino oni govori Slavenski jezici al Slaveni nisu !!! To je glavna Grcki logik. I on siptar kaze da Grci su anti-zionist ... HAHAHAHAHAHA

Na jednom grčkom nacionalističkom (nacističkom) sajtu sam video da oni smatraju Slovene za subhumans, a sebe uzdiđu kao Apolonovu i Zevsovu višu rasu koja je dala civilizaciju Evropi.

Ti grčki nacisti govore najgore stvari o Srbima i Rusima, čak su pljuvali i Teslu.

epirot
09-11-2017, 06:54 AM
Primetio sam da mnogi Grci ne vole Srbe, u čemu je njihov problem sa Srbima?

Većina Srba ima pozitivno mišljenje o Grcima, mnogi Srbi ih smatraju braćom.

Problem je da mi (pricam kao Grk) smo pod Engleske propagande za 200 Godina. Situacija je bila mnogo drugacija pod Turaka. Posle Turaka anti-slovenizam u Grcku postao mnogo jak. Oni su programirali (u glavu) da misle lose o Slavenama. Postoji jedan automatizam u mozku koj radi protiv Rusa, Bugara, Srba i naravno Makedonaca.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 06:55 AM
Problem je da mi (pricam kao Grk) smo pod Engleske propagande za 200 Godina. Situacija je bila mnogo drugacija pod Turaka. Posle Turaka anti-slovenizam u Grcku postao mnogo jak. Oni su programirali (u glavu) da misle lose o Slavenama. Postoji jedan automatizam u mozku koj radi protiv Rusa, Bugara, Srba i naravno Makedonaca.

Γαμω την μανα σου και το σοι σου παλιοπουστη

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 06:56 AM
I will continue to fuck serbian bitches during summer but from now on i will fuck their cuck boyfriends too.
Fuck them with punches to their cuck faces

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 06:59 AM
I will continue to fuck serbian bitches during summer but from now on i will fuck their cuck boyfriends too.
Fuck them with punches to their cuck faces

You can only fuck your own dirty mother, your mother is ditry whore and she probably do not know who is your biological father.

epirot
09-11-2017, 07:02 AM
Na jednom grčkom nacionalističkom (nacističkom) sajtu sam video da oni smatraju Slovene za subhumans, a sebe uzdiđu kao Apolonovu i Zevsovu višu rasu koja je dala civilizaciju Evropi.

Ti grčki nacisti govore najgore stvari o Srbima i Rusima, čak su pljuvali i Teslu.

Zao mije, stvarno sramota. Takvo mrznje kao u Grcku dusu nisam vidio ni medjutim Srba i Hrvata. Ja sam naucio sta znaci ljubav i postovanje u ex-Ju.
I sada ne mogu da se vracam nazad.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 07:03 AM
You can only fuck your own dirty mother, your mother is ditry whore and she probably do not know who is your biological father.

My mother is not Serbian.
Serbian are known for whore girls which love to fucked from Southerners

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 07:04 AM
Zao mije, stvarno sramota. Takvo mrznje kao u Grcku dusu nisam vidio ni medjutim Srba i Hrvata. Ja sam naucio sta znaci ljubav i postovanje u ex-Ju.

Βρε πουταναςγιε , ρε σλαβακι πεταμενο σκασε επιτελους.
Ποτε θα βγαλετε τον πουτσο απο το στομα σλαβικες πουστρες??

Сербо Макеридов
09-11-2017, 07:05 AM
My mother is not Serbian.
Serbian are known for whore girls which love to fucked from Southerners

You mother is whore and your father is probably some Analbanian scum, and because of that you hate Serbs and support your Analbanian blood brothers against Serbs.

DarknessWin
09-11-2017, 07:12 AM
You mother is whore and your father is probably some Analbanian scum, and because of that you hate Serbs and support your Analbanian blood brothers against Serbs.

You call Greeks anatolians , you need to be fucked for that.
Yeah Albanians are better than you pussies and with our support would fuck all of you